Answered: Which Studios Own Which Marvel Characters

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Characters in the Marvel Universe

[We first published this article three years ago, but with the recent rumblings of a cameo by a certain superhero in The Avengers, we thought it might be a good time to bring this to your attention once again. - Editor]

With X-Men Origins: Wolverine a little under three weeks from release, we here at Screen Rant thought an overview of all Marvel properties (and possibilities) might be in order. Though the new independent studio is now producing their own films, solely distributed by Paramount Pictures, there are a number of iconic characters still residing at Hollywood’s other major studios.

Now that the film division of Marvel Entertainment exists, we’ve seen questions around the inter-webs about certain properties and copyrights concerning top-tier Marvel characters. Many readers have been calling for Wolverine to cameo in the expected 2012 film Avengers, but there’s a little problem with that potential geekgasm.

With 20th Century FOX co-producing the Wolvie flick, getting the character to play nice on a self-produced Marvel film is going to be rather difficult. In legal speak, Fox owns a piece of the X-Men film franchise; they have the “rights” to produce any character that frequently appears in the X-Men Universe, projects like X-Men: First Class and X-Men Origins: Magneto insure Fox will be milking that property for everything it’s possibly worth. Ultimately, any mutants like Bishop, Cable, Emma Frost, Juggernaut, Havoc, Psylocke, or Quicksilver would likely appear through a Fox-funded lens.

At one point, the character Deadpool, was at New Line Cinema (along with a story by Blade Trilogy screenwriter David Goyer). The trail for a “Merc with a Mouth” solo project went cold during production of Blade: Trinity. With the rights now at Fox, there may be new life or even a Cable/Deadpool project at some point. So it isn’t all bad news, that is of course unless you think Fox makes bad comic book movies. *hint hint, nudge nudge*

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But that isn’t all – Fox’s studio also has dibs on anything Daredevil, Fantastic Four and Silver Surfer.  [For the heavy comic book readers, that means a Civil War movie is likely out of the question. Probably any "Marvel Event" is out of the question.] It’s been some time, but the wounds haven’t healed from the public’s viewing of Daredevil and Elektra. A Daredevil reboot (with Jason Statham expressing interest in becoming “The Man Without Fear”) was in the pipeline some time ago but recently the project’s been quiet. Due to outdated contracts and loopholes, Marvel has their top tier characters at Columbia Pictures, Lions Gate Entertainment, New Line Cinema and the aforementioned, Fox.

We’ve seen the flipping images of Marvel’s title sequence for a number of years now. Co-productions between the indie studio and majors began in 1998; now Blade, Ghost Rider, Man-Thing, Punisher and Spider-Man are subsequently licensed elsewhere. Thus, creative control is out of hands of its comic book roots.

The first character was Blade, at New Line Cinema. After three pictures and some legal troubles between Daywalker-actor Wesley Snipes and the studio, it looks like that film run is over. Whispers of Blade IV, or a spin-off involving the Nightstalkers, were circulating some months ago but nothing concrete has surfaced. The Spike TV series was canceled due to a number of unconfirmed reasons so the Blade property, at this point, is pretty dead – but that doesn’t really stop vampires.

As an interesting tidbit (which will be elaborated upon shortly) during an alternate ending of the first Blade, a shadowy figure on a distant rooftop wrapped in rags has said to be the Marvel’s resident vampire Morbius.

Columbia Pictures (Sony Pictures) is in control of two properties, all things Spider-Man and Ghost Rider. Last appearances of both characters was in 2007, which can explain the seemingly random development updates for a Venom solo project, Spider-Man 4 and Ghost Rider 2. If Columbia has any interest, they can take Black Cat or Carnage and introduce them in the next film; the same applies to Blackheart, Abigor, Wallow and Gressil. As a general rule, any time a studio introduces a comic book character, they have the rights to produce a spin-off or include that character in a sequel of some fashion.

So Morbius, who Spider-Man director Sam Raimi has said to be interested in interpreting, may have some problems if the character isn’t cleared with New Line Cinema.

If Columbia Pictures wanted to be a little ballsy, they could go after the entire Blade package and shoot  Midnight Sons–the fictional team of Ghost Rider, Johnny Blaze, Blade, Hannibal King, Morbius and Doctor Strange. Wait… then again, should another studio (that’s not Marvel) be in charge of a project like that? Never mind.

Marvel also has regained the rights to Luke Cage from Sony Pictures, so the possibility of a Heroes for Hire movie with him and Iron Fist is not out of the question. Universal has the rights to Namor, but they may be willing to let it revert back to Marvel in exchange for distribution rights.

And the final studio that’s exercised Marvel film property, responsible for 2005′s Man-Thing and last year’s Punisher: War Zone, is Lionsgate Entertainment. After a quiet release, there’s been little movement with nature’s monstrous creature. There are few characters independently introduced through the Man-Thing comics, so there isn’t much to do in terms of a spin-off. Elsewhere, Frank Castle may be up against Barracuda in a possible sequel but no official release has been issued by the imprint. The lackluster reception, being the lowest grossing film based on a Marvel Comic property will do that to ya, gives high hopes that the project will be moved elsewhere. Keep in mind the project was just last year, so if you had hopes of Wolverine and Punisher sorting out their differences on the big screen-like yours truly-it’ll be some time.

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The initial financing deal, for Marvel Entertainment, Inc., consists of $525 million for the possible production of 10 films, based on its comic book properties, over the next seven years. The debt facility will fund initial development, including scripts for each production, and they maintain sole “green light” control. Understandably there are some restrictions to taking a loan, Marvel cannot withdraw profits until after the release of the third film and only if certain financial parameters are met. The original properties for those 10 films, announced in the press release, were Captain America, Nick Fury, The Avengers, Black Panther, Ant-Man, Cloak & Dagger, Dr. Strange, Hawkeye, Power Pack and Shang-Chi. In the original press release, the budget’s ceiling is at $165 million and can have a “rating no more restrictive than PG-13.” The explanation of why Marvel had been doing everything on the cheap was apparent from its initial deal.

Looking forward, Marvel can regain their characters but it’ll be nothing short of jumping through a ring of fire. The studio can shell out truckloads of cash to buy them back or wait for box office numbers to be so bad the studio that owns them doesn’t have any interest in following them up, ie. Ang Lee’s Hulk (thanks, Universal!). Not meeting a deadline for filming the property is the easiest way – most of the contracts have a clause that allows the rights to revert back to Marvel if principle photography doesn’t begin by a certain date after the initial release or if they make an upfront payment as if they were going to start principal photography. This, in part, is the reason we see studios releasing films in rapid succession.

Here’s a breakdown of the whole thing in list form (any characters/franchises not listed are under the rights of Marvel Studios):

20th Century Fox
  • Daredevil: Daredevil/Matt Murdock, Elektra (Natchios), The Kingpin/Wilson Fisk, Bullseye, Jack Murdock, Karen Page, Ben Urich
  • Elektra: Christine Cord/Tatoo, Typhoid Mary/Marry Alice Walker, Kirigi, Stick, Stone
  • Fantastic Four: Doctor Doom/Victor von Doom, Human Torch/Johnny Storm, Invisible Woman/Susan Storm, Mr. Fantastic/Dr. Reed Richards, The Thing/Ben Grimm, Nova/Frankie Raye, Alicia Masters, Willie Lumpkin
  • X-Men Mutants: [Agent Zero/Maverick/David North], Angel/Warren Worthington III, Arclight/Phillippa Sontag, Beast/Dr. Henry Phillip “Hank” McCoy, [Blob/Frederick J. Dukes], [Bolt/Christopher Bradley], Callisto, Colossus/Piotr Nikolaievitch Rasputin, Cyclops/Scott Summers, [Deadpool/Wade Wilson], Emma (Grace) Frost, Jean Grey/Phoenix, Juggernaut/Cain Marko, Gambit/Remy LeBeau, Glob Herman/Herman Gardner, Iceman/Bobby Drake, Jubilee/Jubilation Lee, Katherine “Kitty” Anne Pryde, [Kestrel/John Wraith], Lady Deathstrike/Yuriko Oyama, Leech, Magneto/Erik Magnus Lehnsherr, Mastermind/Jason (Wyngarde), Multiple Man/James Arthur Madrox, Mystique/Raven Darkholme, Nightcrawler/Kurt Wagner, Phat/William Robert “Billy-Bob” Reilly, Professor Charles Xavier, Psylocke/Elizabeth “Betsy” Braddock, Pyro/St. John Allerdyce, Quill/Max Jordan, Rogue/(Anna) Marie, Sabretooth/Victor Creed, Sebastian Hiram Shaw, [Silver Fox], Siryn/Theresa Rourke Cassidy, (The) Spike, Storm/Ororo Munroe, Wolverine/Logan
  • X-Men Non-Mutants: Drake Family (Steven, Madeline, Ronny), Grey Family (Dr. John, Elaine), Henry Peter Gyrich, Robert Edward Kelly, Dr. Moira Kinross MacTaggert, Dr. Kavita Rao, William Stryker, Bolivar Trask, Warren Worthington II
New Line Cinema
  • Vampires: Blade, Deacon Frost, Dracula/Vlad Tepes
  • Non-Vampires: Hannibal King, Abraham Whistler  [UPDATE: Since the time of writing this, The Blade rights have been transferred back into Marvel's hands.]
Sony Pictures
  • Ghost Rider: Ghost Rider/Johnny Blaze, Blackheart/Legion, Phantom Rider/Carter Slade, Abigor, Gressil, Mephistopheles, Wallow, Barton Blaze, Roxanne Simpson
  • Spider-Man: Spider-Man/Peter Parker, Doctor Octopus/Otto Octavius, Green Goblin/Norman Osborn, (New) Green Goblin/Harry Osborn, [The Lizard]/Dr. Curt Connors, Sandman/Flint Marko, Venom/Eddie Brock Jr., Betty Brant, Dennis Carradine (Buglar), J. Jonah Jameson, Ben Parker, May Parker, John Jameson, Joseph “Robbie” Robertson, Gwen Stacy, Mendel Stromm, Flash Thompson
Lionsgate Entertainment
  • Punisher: The Punisher/Frank Castle, Jigsaw/Billy Russoti, Microchip/Linus Liberman, Joan the Mouse, Maginty, Mr. Bumpo, Spacker Dave, The Russian, Maria Elizabeth Castle, Detective Martin Soap [UPDATE: Since the time of writing this, The Punisher rights have been transferred back into Marvel's hands.]

The possibility of Marvel having complete control of their character properties, like its comic rival DC, is a matter of time.

Coming Soon: A look back at the history of Marvel Comics on both the big and small screen.

Source: Comic Book Resources, Marvel, IMDB, NY Times, Variety

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  1. Kudos guys on an unbelievable article!

    After Marvel’s success with Iron Man and Hulk I don’t think there is a comic book fan around that doesn’t wish to one day see some of their most popular characters join the Marvel Movie Universe.

    This answers a bunch of my questions but at the same time highlights the fact that it might take quite a while before we see a few of those properties at Marvel once and for all.

  2. fox has caused me much pain. marvel needs to control things or it’s going to keep heading in the wrong direction. sucks

  3. @Oscar!

    In the next post (which is coming) you’ll notice a correlation between the television and their movie studio counterparts. That’s not to say it’s always that way, but it is frequently the case.

  4. It stinks that Kingpin is a FOX property because he is also featured in Spiderman frequently. Would be cool to see Wilson Fisk manipulating villains in the background to take out Spidey.

    I would LOVE to see Daredevil remade. Of all the B-List characters, he was my favorite. No real superpowers, just heightened senses and TONS of training. While I didn’t think the movie was all that bad (Colin Farrell was great as Bullseye), I think if Favs was given control of that movie NOW it would be SO much better…especially without Affleck.

    • daredevil was a good movie,it was dark and gritty,and you must watch only the extended version(i think there were 2 directors cut versions).

  5. thats a good point about one more day movie by S.Matt I am now very scared of spider man 4. Marvel made massive amounts off iron man man and enoth off hulk maby they should save up and buy Blade, ghost rider, punisher or possibly Electra (hope not but they shold buy someone) back, the others have made to much for Marvel to manage it.
    so does that apply (spelt it wrong) to the animated movies because hulk is owened by marvel wolverine by fox but did anyone see “Hulk vs”? strange.

  6. I’ve heard elsewhere that the contract at Fox for DareDevil started in 2001 and was over after 6 years, Elektra was part of that deal, so Marvel has them back.

    The Fantastic Four contract with Fox is supposedly an 8 year deal so it’ll end in late 2010.

    The Blade contract was signed way back in 1997 so it is over now.

    The Sony deal with Ghostrider ends in 2011.

    Sony has Spider-Man 4 & 5 but after that they’re done.

    Fox’s extension deal for X-Men is for 6 years and was signed in 2008 so by 2015 everything should be back at Marvel.

  7. 2015?? But the world will be over by then, drats…

  8. marvel/disney please make a daredevil & black panther team-up movie. also please make a submariner vs hulk movie.

  9. I LIKED THE PUNISHER:WAR ZONE IT WAS AWESOME!

    • yes,and stevenson looked exactly like the punisher,the movie was r-rated,but they can´t make a soft pun-movie because the comics are also ultra-brutal.

  10. The sooner Marvel regain the rights to all their characters the better. Hopefully the merger with Disney is going to speed things up.

  11. The sooner Marvel regain the rights to all their characters the better. Hopefully the merger with Disney is going to speed things up.

  12. Well this article is more timely then ever now that XFC is out. 2015 huh? I can hold out till then.

  13. Any updates of the status of the Blade property? We are going on 5 years since we’ve seen him on the big screen.

    • That appears to be a yes! Was this there when I asked or was the Blade answer just added?

  14. Still a very good article, but would need some updates after almost two years.

  15. Apparently Spiderman’s making a cameo in The Avengers film :/ Does that mean Marvel has finally got the rights back for him, even with the new film coming out?

    • Spider-Man won’t have a cameo in The Avengers.
      That RUMOR was literally concocted by an old lady who has no idea of what’s going on.
      Spidey is owned by Sony, and until Marvel Studios regain the rights to Spidey, you won’t see him in any Marvel Studios movies (sadly)…

      • Damn, that’s a bummer and a half! I thought it was too good to be true.

        Well hopefully he’ll make an appearence in one of the future sequels

        Hopefully…

  16. Most def time for an updated list of changes… or comment saying “nothing has changed.. Fox is still f’n up Xmen films.”

  17. By the time Marvel gets all those rights back it might not even matter. With the hit or miss nature of many of these other projects it kind of gives Marvel a bit of wiggle room in regards to their films. If other studios keep botching their movies it will just make Marvel look better, and it still keeps their brand out there without costing them any money or effort. The fans will always rally behind them and they can look like the good guys in the fans eyes.

    • Well said.

  18. 2 things:

    1- I find it interesting that FOX does not own the right to X-23, one of my favorite characters. Does this mean that Marvel could theoretically make an x-23 movie while FOX makes another x-men? :-)

    2- You guys seem to forget that Marvel/Disney is making a lot of money with these contracts. So don’t be surprised if they keep renewing them after they expire. My prediction: FOX will keep making more x-men movies.

    Personally, I’d prefer marvel studios to get ALL the rights back.

    • On point #2……we actually don’t know if or how much money they are making on these contracts. When Marvel sold the rights back in what, like 95′? They were in desperate need of cash flow and this was what saved them. For all we know it was an up front lump sum (with possible payouts at a predetermined interval of time as long as said studio keeps the rights). At the very least, Disney has personally seen very little if any of the money from these deals.

      The fact is we have no clue even roughly how much Marvel is/has made off of the selling off their franchises but I’m pretty sure they would be making MORE if they were creating these movies in house so they could reap ALL the profits and not just what amounts to a “finders fee”.

      • Marvel sold most of these rights more then once when you look at it. The reason things started going downhill was because that business genius that bought them tried to diversify them by buying up Topps cards and trying to start their own production company with New World (I think) at the time.

        They did the whole Hulk television movies, complete with the not-so-great cameos of Daredevil and Thor. But you have to remember there was a Punisher movie in the 90′s, Roger Corman’s Fantastic Four, and that first Captain America debacle (not the television series). And if I recall James Cameron and a company he was involved with was trying to get X-Men and Spider-Man back in early 90′s, so Marvel has been renting out these properties, or trying to for the last 25 years.

        To me when they started having financial problems after becoming a publicly traded company they sold those licenses again, a)because they really needed the money, and b)history had shown that studios usually ended up not doing anything worthwhile with the characters anyway so it was no loss to Marvel. But just like with their publishing business, their lack of foresight cost them. Well it’s going to cost Disney now.

    • Just found this article….apparently Disney/marvel is actively pursuing ways to get Marvel’s IP back.

      http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/joshw24/news/?a=24162

      • that article is over a year old, and i dont think it’s very trustworthy, especially the quote about “Disney will never and I mean never, ever, not in a 100 years, get this property back under the control of Marvel Entertainment, just not going to happen. Fox owns all of these properties for perpetuity, in other words, for-ev-ver….for-ev-ver…” this all seems to be someone opinion, and not an actual fact. i’m just sayin…

        part of this article states,”most of the contracts have a clause that allows the rights to revert back to Marvel if principle photography doesn’t begin by a certain date after the initial release or if they make an upfront payment as if they were going to start principal photography.” notice the word “most”, i wonder which contracts dont have that clause in them.
        daredevil came out in ’03, electra in ’05. arent the statutes ran out on these properties? or is there a different deal on these characters?

        • The sole reason why I posted that link is it shows that Disney/Marvel indeed WANT their IP back and so would probably not be doing anything contrary to that (like extending contract rights, etc).

          And that WAS the article writers opinion. A bit over exaggerated but it was based on sound facts none the less. FOX is enjoying the rewards of their contract and will not let it go until it becomes unprofitable.

  19. Thanks for the update (hopefully people will see this and realize why a Wolverine and Ghost Rider, or Spider-Man and Iron Man team-up movie will never happen ;) )
    Not much has changed though…
    I was just hoping the FF would have reverted back to Marvel by now :(
    But with the latest news, it doesn’t seem as if that’s going to happen.

    • Well, never say never. GR2 and Amazing Spiderman will have to do well enough for Sony to want to keep them (and keep making sequels). My hope is both will do poorly so Sony will relinquish control. Interesting though that both movies are coming out this year, lets you know they were probably at the end of the contract limit.

      That would pretty much leave FOX as the only outside studio. X-Men is sadly too entrenched, but I too am bewildered about the FF. Based on what little we did know about the contract terms, the statute of limitations should have run out already. It’s been 4.5 years since the last movie and we are only at the script/discussion stage but they have to be in pre-production. Maybe Marvel gave them an extension since they have plenty on their plate? Who knows. :P

  20. Honestly, it would really just complicate things if Marvel had ALL the rights. With better known characters like Spider-Man and the X-Men at other studios, Marvel gets to focus on lesser known characters. If Marvel had all of their characters, the upcoming Avengers movie would probably be way too convoluted for a movie.

    Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, and the Hulk = Good team.

    Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, the Hulk, Spider-Man, all of the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, and Daredevil = Way way way too much going on.

    • The only complication would be that it would allow Marvel to take the gloves off. They would no longer be constrained to only have certain characters in movies, there COULD be cameos of anyone they wanted, they could do team-ups with free rein, the possibilities are huge.

      So sure, it makes things complicated but in a GOOD way.

    • If marvel had the rights to all their characters, it still doesn’t mean they’d put all those characters in the same movie (that would be be silly).
      The Avengers would still be The Avengers.
      And X-Men would still be X-Men (just produced by Marvel – which means, an X-Men movie that actually pays attention to the source material).

      Sure, it means that they can have references to the FF in The Avengers, or have Spider-Man appear in Iron Man 3, but they would never be stupid enough to take ALL their characters and put them in a 2hr movie (it would never work unless they have the most amazing writers in the world working on it – and even then, it would still have every chance of bombing).
      That’s why I’m against a Marvel Civil War movie… it’s just too much IMO.

      In short: to have all these characters in the same CINEMATIC UNIVERSE would be awesome, but they wouldn’t necessarily have to be in the same movie.

      • Thats what I’m saying… even mentioning other characters in movies gets the fans crazy. Too bad this wont really happen for a long time.

  21. Why did Marvel sold their own characters’ rights to other studious? that’s just is foolishness!

    • Uuuummmmm… they needed money ;)

    • Marvel sold the rights after the comicbook bubble burst and they were facing bankruptcy. They made the right decision at the time but now are paying the price for it (along with the rest of us unfortunately).

      Would you rather have had Marvel go under and some nameless company snap the rights to ALL the characters up? Talk about your nightmare scenario.

      • What they need is what works for large scale government contracts; Joint Ventures! The problem is those dog gone antitrust laws and the red tape for getting exceptions to the rules.

        You can discuss it till the cows come home but in my opinion the real decision is up to the fan-base. Their’s no political will to withhold entertainment dollars from the properties irrespective of who holds rights to produce. People have even taken a team attitude, like it’s some kind of sports conference. Fox can do it better than Disney, and so forth. All that’s counterproductive if you want the full comic experience translated to the movie screen. People have to learn about the “span of the bow” to wait for the right time to release their entertainment dollars and get what they really want. Unfortunately the structure of the fan-base is fractured into age groups that haven’t learned to sacrifice and those who have…

        • If it were only that simple. I withheld my movie dollars and didn’t go see XMFC because I hated how they hacked the canon to pieces to get it to work. Unfortunately enough curious fans and non-fans went and saw it to make it profitable. Until we can get everyone (both reals fans and the casual movie goer alike) to stop paying for these movies, Marvel is never going to get their property back.

          • Just as I said their’s no political will. Too many people are as you say out to get instant gratification, satiate their curiosity or just working off the pleasant experience they had with one or two. We are in the minority….

      • What if that did happen and DC bought the rights… kidding

  22. This should be updated to know that Marvel has both The Punisher and Blade film rights.

    • Oops. Sorry, didn’t see the updates.

  23. I’m against a Civil War movie as well, but I’m not against a Civil War trilogy(or more to better encompass the scope of it all). =P

  24. a bit confused. So Paramount/Disney dont own any rights to Hulk, Captain America etc, are they only distros for these ips ? What is the deal struck between Disney and Marvel ?

    Seems odd to me to recycle such an old article and not comment on the Disney deal.

    Sorry for my confusion

    • Marvel Studios is the official Disney Affiliate that handles all Disney owned Marvel properties, think the situation with Disney owning Touchstone. Marvel Studios is owned by Disney, so mentioning Marvel Studios instead of Disney just cuts out the middle man. After the Avengers, Paramount should not be mentioned on any future Marvel projects (and honestly I’m surprised they are still mentioned on this one). So Disney, and subsequently Marvel Studios, owns the rights to every Marvel character, except the ones mentioned here.

  25. So Blade and Punisher are back with Marvel studios??? Good.

  26. So there is no chance of Namor or the Atlanteans being in Avengers because they are at Universal?

    I wonder what the possibility is for cross-over movies. I mean it could be to everyone’s mutual advantage. Then again, it would pretty much stoke the fires of the fans.

    • Afaik, Universal doesn’t own anything Marvel anymore. I even saw something at hinted that indeed Namor could be in the Avengers (or at least made the argument seem plausible)

      • Yeah, there was a reference to Atlantis at the end of IM2…
        Not to mention the Oracle logo, and all the Roxxon logos…
        Marvel wouldn’t hint at Namor if they didn’t have the rights to him.
        I’m hoping we see him in The Avengers (or Cap 2).

        • I was sure Roxxon first appeared in Ironman (comics). However I was incorrect it was in Captain America.

          So I dont see the definitive link with Namor in the MMU.

          As for Oracle…

          “Oracle’s CEO even had a cameo at the beginning of the movie, where he introduced himself and his company to Tony Stark.”

          So besides the dot on a map where is the correlation?

          NOT that I wouldn’t want to see it and I would much rather see it in CA2 with flashbacks (what little time CAP has in FBs) then introduce him more.

          • The Oracle dome (that housed the Japanese garden) was seen in the last fight scene of IM2…

            Yes, the CEO of ‘Oracle’ (the IT company) had a cameo in the movie, but the logo (on the big dome), that’s seen in the movie, was supposed to be perceived (by the viewers) as the Marvel Comics’ Oracle (an environmental company) and not ‘Oracle’ (the IT company).

          • I was referring to this link I saw recently…..
            http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=45792

            They could even connect this to Asgard by having Thor call Leviathan the Midgard Serpent which does make a certain amount of sense.

            Plus Atlanteans do have tech (and wasn’t it golden?) which lines up as well.

            The only negative would be we would have heard of the casting of Namor by this time. No way you could keep that a secret.

            Also anyone notice the circle in Africa? That just so happens to be the location of Wakanda ;)

            • You are correct sir…
              Favreou said in the director’s commentary of IM2 that the circle in Africa is a reference to Wakanda and the Black Panther.

              As for Namor & the Atlanteans: yes, the Atlanteans have tech (and it is gold – in some of the comics) and IMO, if the Atlanteans are revealed to be Loki’s army, they don’t have to led by Namor (Namor doesn’t necessarily have to be in the movie), it could be a “rogue” group of Atlanteans or something…

              • That would be kind of lame though, Namor IS the face of Atlantis so to not use him but just his people is just….yeah, lame.

                Is it really a good idea to open that can of worms though? This should logically lead to Namor being involved at some point and I really REALLY don’t want Avengers 2 focusing on Atlantis. It’s Ultron of BUST!

                • Well, in the comics, Namor can barely keep control of his kingdom (there’s always someone trying to overthrow him or groups of Atlanteans going of on their own and causing trouble on the surface world).
                  So a small group of rogue Atlanteans joining up with Loki could be plausible… (I agree, it would be lame, but it’s possible).

  27. Fox could always have their own team up movie…….. lol

    • im starting to think this guy doesn’t k ow what he’s talking about, marvel studios has the rights to blade and punisher acquired last year and after seeing the avengers its not hard to speculate who has the rights to silver surfer. Not to mention the rumors of daredevil reverting back soon.

  28. Wow! Jason Statham as Daredevil could be a knock out the park.Better that then a effing Transformers movie.

    • What?

      Muc as I like him he does not need to be portraying MM/DD. Punisher? Sure. Matt Murdock… I can see Jason just laying the smackdown in a court of law…

      No.

  29. No offense to Carl Lee but this needs to be a new article referencing the old one to see how it was if people are interested.

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