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Joshua says:

I haven’t read all the 354 comments so what I’m about to say may be reiterrating what others have previously said.

My first thought about the cabin is that Jacob never lived there…or atleast not during Ben’s trips to the cabin. Rather, I think the cabin was inhabited by Jacob’s brother. Jacob lived under the statue way back in time when the black rock was arriving and I don’t think he ever left. I also think Richard knew this and was journeying to the statue to get the lists and slips of paper rather than the cabin. The “help me” i believe was Jacob’s brother looking for someone to help him with his loophole. From the gist of what was shown in the finale…I see Jacob as an inheritely good person and don’t see how he could be the person in charge of the others under Ben’s regime(which was at times cruel). So I think at some point in time Jacob’s brother found a way to make himself the person to answer to rather than Jacob. The cabin with the ash around it was different from Bernard’s cabin, so I don’t really see a connection there. Oh and has anyone translated what Richard said when the people transporting Locke’s body asked him what lies in the shadow of the statue or whatever? I didn’t have time to catch exactly what he said.

As for the bomb…I believe that it was meant to happen. The bomb resulted in the delicate balance that the hatch was created to maintain and i think also destroyed the top part of the statue, which was part of the sanctity of the island.

I hope season six helps explain what happened to Claire because I don’t think there was ever anything good about the cabin or the visions of Christian. Maybe Aaron is a “candidate” to possibly be a leader of the others in the future…or maybe thats just wishful thinking.

p.s. My prediction for season 6 is that a mysterious man wanders out of the jungle by the name of Joshua. He will then lead others in battle eventualy reconquering the island aka promised land haha =].

—Joshua

Dan says:

I’d just like to add that we don’t know for sure that Sun’s pregnancy will be successful. From what Juliet has said in previous episodes, the pregnancies don’t start going “bad” until during or near childbirth time. The problem was never that the women couldn’t conceive on the island: it was that every single one died during childbirth. So we won’t know if Sun’s pregnancy is really successful until after she gives birth and survives it. Hope that makes sense.

Also, remember that the gigantic statue that we see in the Jacob/Dark Shirt flashback is of the Egyptian goddess Tawaret, who’s primary role was pregnancy and childbirth. Is it just a coincidence that the destruction of a gigantic statue of the “childbirth goddess” suddenly causes successful childbirth to be impossible on the island? Just some food for thought =).

I think it’s likely that the atomic explosion (at whatever year it ended up going off depending on whether Juliet time-traveled as she fell into the energy) is responsible for the destruction of the statue, though there’s obviously no concrete proof of that yet. If it did work out that way, it’s kind of ironic that the fertility and childbirth specialist (Juliet) is the one responsible for setting off the bomb and destroying the childbirth goddess’ statue, which in turn causes the very problem on the island that Juliet was recruited and brought to the island to solve in the first place =D. Ah, my head’s spinning already!

Also damien, interesting speculation on Richard Alpert you presented!

Rich O says:

Let’s go a little deeper into possible religious meanings. First of all, Jacob vs. Esau could be a parallel to Jesus vs. Satan. Some have speculated that Jesus and Satan are really brothers (remember, Satan is a fallen angel). The Bible says that God loved Jacob but hated Esau. Going with this possible parallel, Jacob had 12 sons (the 12 tribes of Israel…later Jesus had 12 Apostles). They were enslaved, roamed the desert, and entered the promised land. Moses led them through the desert, but wasn’t allowed to enter the promised land (Jack being the Moses character, remember Jack’s not on “the list”). Aaron led the people into the promised land (Aaron in Lost is safe on the mainland for now, growing up). Back to Jesus, he was killed when the Jews demanded his death, some thing at the prompting of Satan (the thinking is that God protects his Son from Satan, but Satan talked the people into killing him. However, that was God’s plan all along, in order to save the world). My thinking is that Jacob is alive again at some point in the last season, and Aaron somehow plays a role in leading the Losties to salvation in the future.

Dino says:

Dear Joshua,
Ilana asks Richard the question, “what lies in the shadow of the statue”, and Richard replies, “Ille qui nos omnes servabit” (Latin for “He who will save us all.”) It is also interseting that she first asks to speak to Ricardo, whereupon Richard steps forward and says “I am Richard”.

Linzy says:

well Richard has always seemed like he was from Spain to me, and naturally if he was from Spain, his name would be Ricardo originally, when he came to the island with the Black Rock, if that is in fact when he came to the island for the first time.

Linzy says:

I’m also very curious to find out what people think about the reason there is Locke’s body inside the container that Ilana’s people carry to the statue. Also interested in why Richard is asked in Latin, not spanish, which leads me to believe he is actually older than the Black Rock, since Latin was a dying spoken language in the mid 1800s.

E.M. "John" says:

Just a thought about the radiation from the bomb. Didn’t Desmond and the other gent have to wear radiation suits to go outside?

If it was a “small” bomb, the radiation could be “tolerable” by the time the “Losties” get to the island.

Dino says:

The bomb imploded down because of the electromagnetism; it did dot explode. This caused the equivalent of an earthqua.ke

hugh says:

Very Good!!!!!

santa cruz says:

i like what richard says to ilana when she asks him what lies in the shadow of the statue and he says he who will save us. is he referring to jacob? i had friend point out that locke’s body was in the statue’s shadow as well. i think the hydrogen bomb detonation is the incident, i mean that’s what the episode is called, and usually the episode names literally and figuratively sum up the episodes themselves. however, other than guessing that the h bomb going off was the incident i don’t know what is gonna happen in season 6. there was one thing i did like about the finale, remember in season 1 when kate is stitching up jack and he tells the story of tearing the girls sac open and haveing to count to 5 and stich her back up, i thought it was cool they showed it in the finale

susa says:

I so wish Juliet and James will be re-united in season six!!! They are so perfect together. Juliet balances Sayer just right, she is much better for him then Kate.

I so want Juliet to come back on season 6, I practically tore my head off when I assumed she was dead. I love season 5, just because of James/Juliet, wish their lovestory had been shown more, instead of skipping those 3 years…

DJKofMaine says:

did anyone notice when juliet woke at the bottom of the hole…she almost…came back to life…like john locke did when jacob brought him back after being oushed by his father? it seems likely to me jacob was there to “touch” her, so that with her free will she would be capable ot setting off the “incident” needed to re-unite the clan for season 6.

what lies in the shadow of the statue? ille qui nos omnes servabit (he who will svae/protect us all). this has to mean jacob. the biblical jacob has faith in the goodness of man and the beauty and gift of free will. he was a simple spiritual man, “staying among the tents.” esau, his twin brother and eventual enemy who vowed to kill him, had no faith in man and saw them as greedy power hungry fools. he was a hunter, and a savage murderer. his own greed and obsession with revenge ended up being his downfall.

Big Wave Dave says:

If the hydrogen bomb is supposedly what destroyed the statue then why/how is Radzinksy or any other member around to push the button and finish all the hatches. A blast big enough to destroy a statue of that size would surely kill any humans around

Dino says:

You’re thinking of a blast that mushrooms upwards; think of the blast being sucked downwards. No radiation escaped that hole, but the implosion shook the island. Radzinsky jumped out of the jeep, and survived to build the Swan.

Big Wave Dave says:

Well if it was sucked downwards, it still doesn’t explain the speculation surrounding the statue being destroyed. I guess if all of that energy was diverted downward some sort of small earthquake could have happened which might shake the statue enough to break off the top part?

Dino says:

In the episode finale of season 2, Ben asked Michael “You know how to drive a boat?”
“Yeah, I can drive a boat,” Michael says.
“Good, then you’re going to take this boat and follow a compass bearing of 325 and if you do that exactly, you and your son will find rescue.”
Several months later, Frank Lapidis looks at a piece of paper taped to a console and messes with the instruments. Sayid asks what the paper is and Frank looks at it again. It shows North, South, East, and West and says 40 miles N @ 305 degrees. 7 K East. Below that is a crude drawing of a boat, and an arrow. “It’s a cheat sheet Faraday drew for me,” Frank says.
When the captain gives Sayid the boat to return to the island, he says stay on a heading of 320 degrees.
A 20 degree difference??????????????????????????
Is the island is rotating? Is this the source of the electromagnetic power. Extensive research has been conducted on this phenomenon.

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/0741-3335/48/5A/S07

DJKofMaine says:

You’re all assuming certain things:

A. The nuc was indeed detonated and caused the “incident.”

B. The Blast from the nuc destroyed the statue but didnt kill many or all people.

C. The statue hadn’t already been knocked down ages before…perhaps during the incident we know nothing of…when the ‘black rock” was sucked to the center of the island by a massive magnetic episode.

We just can’t know until the final season.

What i’d like is speculation on what happens to Jacob, and if he knew all along he had to die to unite “the family” (as in…”they’re coming”). Surely he understood Bens nature and almost begged for Bens reaction after his “what about you?” response. why did he need Ilanas help? And will be be re-incarnated? is that what “candidate” means, as in a male island dweller with a body Jacob can inhabit?

sandipkumar says:

What’s the significance of these numbers? 4 8 15 16 23 42
The numbers were being punched on to the hatch like a serial number.. (as hurley watches)
How does that become the code that has to be entered on the machine in the hatch years later?
What does it have to do with hurley’s lottery ticket?

adam w says:

what was the original idea with the ‘tailiee’ charecter libby in season 2, was there any reason for her axing? as there seemed to be a storyline going where she was in the same hospital as hurley but then nothing else came of the story, any reason?

DJKofMaine says:

in the season 4 episode where bens daughter dies and claires house is shot with the rocket….sawyer comments “she got her bell rung but she’ll live” to which miles responded “you sure?” later claire says something like “at least im not still seeing ghosts’ to which miles said something like “oh yeah tell us more” in a somewhat sarcastic tone. i think both his comments were very mild hidden forshadowing for claires future. i now agree she may be dead. we’ll surely find out season 6, but the lost writers have a reason for everything and miles comments must be taken seriously. any ideas?

Cody says:

Wow. I am impressed with your analysis. I would not be surprised if you were correct about the biblical Jacob and his Egyptian bondage compared to our Jacob and the losties. It makes the list from season 3 make complete sense.

adam w says:

just a quick one really, how do we know that the person jacob was talking to at the beginning of the finale, was not just the black smoke that had taken the form of someone jacob once knew? it doesnt have to be an actual person, maybe just jacob against the black smoke?

David says:

But just what is the black smoke?

adam w says:

the islands security system? like the producers said, some things will not be completely explained, just like in star wars with ‘the force’ we just took it that it was an higher power but it was never explained how it worked and stuff

David says:

Let’s open another discussion.. What is everyone’s opinion on what the opening sequence will be for this season’s premiere?

DJKofMaine says:

david good question ive been pondering that since may 14th.

the producers said viewers can expect to be completely confused initially during the season 6 premiere. we’l have little or no understanding of what’s going on.

what i want…is for everyone to be back. charlie, boon, shannon, ecko, juliet, charlotte, even ethan and and dead others.

good news: all 4 of these characters have been in talks with the produers over lunches in La or dinners in london, etc. will they visit as ghosts? will the “incident” reset the past (or future) and bring them back? i miss them, and look forward to seeing them again. they’re part of the family.

“libby” however is still so angry she was killed off during season 2 that she refues to come back. her stubborn revenge stance reminds me of the biblical esau (minus the murderous rage).

ManuYasha says:

I believe that Esau is the Smoke Monster! Here are several reasons, especially from the episode, in which Ben confronts the monster.

The monster doesn’t show up, because it’s already there (as False-Locke).

And then, Ben falls through the hole, down in the ancient room. “Locke” goes away and suddenly the monster shows up! Later transforms into Alex and as soon as Alex vanishes, Locke shows up again!

We also know, that the monster can transform into persons, as Esau\False-Lock did.

Tracy says:

When Jack was still held captive in the cages, I remember that there were adults and children walking past him and asking him questions especially regarding Ana Lucia. I recall the woman was the stewardess from the plain who gave Jack the free liquor and the two children were the one’s who were kidnapped I believe in season three. What happened to all of those people that were snatched on the beach and I still don’t see explanations behind taking the kids.

Dino says:

FYI: this website contains a comprehensive article about Smokey, and is well worth the read.

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/The_Monster

And to answer the question about the kidnapped children, one of the Others, Tom, said that it was to give them a better life.

Dino says:

I found this site listing the ship’s manifest for the Black Rock. It’s interesting, but is it Canon or fake?

http://www.onentofl.com/magnushanso.html

David says:

Wow, that’s certainly interesting. What is a ship from England doing in the Pacific? Also noticed some of the names from the show but I also noticed some names from Heroes, Linderman, Adam Monroe. Interesting.

Cody says:

but that is not verified. how in the world can we be certain where it came from, and especially who was on it?

David says:

Well, hopefully we will find out. I personally think it’s the oceanic 6. They were propelled into that time with the event. LOL!!

DJKofMaine says:

wow. daniel miles richard (i assumed thats when he arrived) 2 widmores likely charles’ ancestors…

you guys hear the rumors that all the cast members who have died are coming back? and that matthew fox said the finale of the series will be so moving that he gets overwhelmed just thinking of it? this after claiming he’s the only cast member who knows how the show will end.

im excited.

DJKofMaine says:

i believe filming for lost season 6 began this week in hawaii? 22nd, 26th…i heard around that time filming was scheduled to commence. im very much looking forward to the final act. i do not believe it will disappoint.

rachel says:

exciting news for LOST fans!!

This Saturday, September 12, 2009 in Anaheim, CA, LOST cast members are going to be making a public appearance at Disney’s D23 Convention; additionally some really fantastic pieces of LOST history are going to be on display- including Kate’s toy plane, Hurley’s winning lottery ticket, Locke’s hunting knife, Sawyer’s letter and many other surprises! These items will be on view Thursday September 10 through Sunday, September 13, the entire weekend of D23, and will be up for auction after the series finale in May of 2010.

Look for the guys in the Dharma suits! For the full story, go to profilesinhistory.com

did you guys hear about the big auction after the series finale next year???

check out profilesinhistory.com for the news!

DJKofMaine says:

I want Lockes knife. and Kates plane. or kate herself if shes being auctioned. dominic wouldnt mind.

i cant wait to see richards backstory. he’s a regular now, to appear in 16 episodes. dominic will be in 3. ecko may be back. will jacob be back? the comment “maybe hes a candidate” by bram and llana….the need a new jacob, jacob new this was coming all along right? he was prepared. thats why he went to llana (with gloves on as to not “touch” anyone and said “i need you.” ok enough rant. just sharing ideas.

duddadudda says:

I think Lapidis is going to be a candidate for the new Jacob. Jacob is supposed to be the morally righteous and upstanding man in the Bible, and he appears to be this way in the finale as well. Lapidis is the one character in the show that hasn’t shown any sign of immorality, evil, or flat-out dislikable actions. It makes perfect sense he would become the new Jacob (if a new Jacob is on the way)

DJKofMaine says:

We’re getting closer. month and change until season 5 dvd release, 2 and change until season 6. i will miss this series when it ends. but until then…

will the true locke be back? jacob perhaps re-incarnated through one of our losties? aaron and walt may return aged?

im looking forward to richards backstory and why he was chosen by jacob to advise the “others’ leaders over time. we know charles widmore, ellois, ben, then very briefly locke as the previous 4. who came before, and who comes next? religiously and spiritually, what are the producers trying to tell us? why did matthew fox say in an interview that the season 6 finale would be overwhelming, sad, joyous, that the show could not possibly continue because it will offer complete closure, etc. whats in store guys?

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