[Update: We've added even more Lost explanations!]
If you’ve visited our Lost series finale review and discussion, you know that opinion is sharply divided over how one of the biggest TV shows of the last decade came to a close.
Some people thought the ending couldn’t have been any sweeter, while others are either frustrated or disappointed with how Lost ultimately wrapped.
However, there are those out there who are currently feeling confused about how Lost came to a close and ‘what it all meant.’ So to help these (snicker) lost souls out, we thought we’d at least try and offer some quick explanations of some of the lingering questions. Hopefully it helps and doesn’t just further confuse.
It must be noted that unlike sites like Lostpedia, I haven’t done years and years of research on this. I’m just a moderate Lost fan who happens to have a good mind for literary analysis. So here goes nothing. And in case you haven’t guessed already:
[MAJOR SPOILER ALERT!!!]
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THEY WERE NOT “DEAD THE WHOLE TIME”
I don’t know why people are having trouble understanding this, as it is CLEARLY explained in the final minutes of the finale episode by Christian Shephard (Jack’s dad). The original Oceanic 815 plane crash happened. Everything on the Island through seasons 1-6 happened. The “flash sideways” universe introduced in season 6 was a sort of stop-over point between life and afterlife (referred to here as the “purgatory universe”).
Each person in this “purgatory universe” created a reality for themselves based on their lingering issues in life – that which they could not “let go” of. For Jack it was Daddy issues; Kate, the guilt of murder; Sawyer, the quest to find “Sawyer” and be a better man; Sayid, the unrequited love of Nadia; Charlie, looking for something “real” in his hollow life of fame, etc…
Everyone was still attached to their Earthly concerns (we’re getting very Buddhist here, bear with me) – but when they made contact with those people they’d met on the Island, they remembered the journey and growth they had experienced because of the Island, and could finally understand the connections and “purpose” brought into their damaged lives by being there. With that greater understanding of themselves, they were each ready to “leave” or “move on” to the next phase of existence – i.e., the true afterlife.
WHAT WAS THAT FINAL IMAGE OF THE CRASHED PLANE?
Some people are convinced the final image during the end credits of the Lost finale was the “clue” to the characters being dead the whole time. OK, let’s think about this: The image appears during the closing credits, after the final appearance of the “LOST” logo. That means that the story had officially ended. Saying that the biggest reveal came while the end credits were rolling is like saying a movie’s climax happens during the end credits. Not bloody likely.
The image of the plane crash (if you look closely) has memorabilia from the Lostie’s time on the beach where they first made camp. Shacks, towels, etc… it was one part nostalgia (remember where it all began?) and also one part commentary on the circular nature of the Island.
Like the Black Rock ship that brought Richard to the Island (“Ab Aeterno“), or the downed plane with the heroin that had Mr. Ecko’s brother’s corpse inside of it (“The 23rd Psalm“), the remains of Oceanic 815 and the evidence of a small community built on the beach are just more monuments of the Island. The next time somebody crashes there, they’ll see that stuff and wonder what the “mystery” behind it is…
Then they’ll whine and complain about how unsatisfying the answer is. (“What? That’s how that mystical guy “Hurley” came to the Island? LAME.”)
WHAT WAS DESMOND’S POWER?
One of the biggest things people seem to be questioning is how Desmond was able to “wake up” from the purgatory universe and how he had the know-how to “wake up” the other Losties. For that answer, you really just have to look back over the history of Desmond.
Desmond (specifically through his connection to Penny Widmore) is a sort of “constant” in the show. No matter what happens, when, or where, Desmond seems somehow immune to the Island’s energy (which has electromagnetic properties) and has a sort of awareness that can transcend space and time (his consciousness shifts seen in episodes like “The Constant“). These “shifts” and Widmore’s explanation that Desmond is special because of his resistance to the Island’s energies, imply that Desmond would even be able to “shift” his consciousness back and forth between this universe and the purgatory one, catalyzed by Widmore’s team placing him in that huge electromagnetic machine in the season six episode, “Happily Ever After“.
So, it does stand to reason (at least Lost reasoning) that Desmond – after having his consciousness “shifted” to the purgatory reality – would “wake up” after encountering HIS constant, Penny. It’s another fast and loose metaphysical explanation, but one that (for me) still works within the framework of the show.
WHAT’S THE DEAL WITH THE ISLAND’S “RULES?”
Over the course of the show people have wondered about the mythology of the Island – where it came from, what it is and what are the “rules” that govern it and its mystical protectors? Admittedly, this is an area where the showrunners played things fast and loose, hoping that the momentum of the characters’ story arcs and the whole “good vs. evil” showdown would be enough to appease most fans. Alas, not so.
Season six of Lost did a great deal to semi-explain what the island was – a sort of container for a very important energy that seemingly links this world with worlds beyond… or something. That energy is represented by light and water, and if that light goes out and the water stops flowing, the world is basically screwed. Everything magical or fantastic about the Island stems from this energy, and many of the technological oddities found on the Island (the Swan Station from season 2) are a result of the Dharma Initiative trying to harness and control that energy (i.e., man trying to bend magic and mysticism to the will of modern science).
However, there are some things that were definitely left unexplained: Why did the Man In Black become a smoke monster when he was exposed to the light (was it a manifestation of his corrupted soul)?; What is the nature of the “rules” that governed certain aspects of the Island – who could come and go, who could kill who, who was healed from injury (Locke, Rose), who lived forever (Richard). How were these rules established and maintained?
The Jacob/MIB origin episode, “Across The Sea”, attempted to fill in that aspect of the Island mythology, but what we came away with were a lot of vague pseudo-explanations. The protector of the Island basically makes up the rules and once those rules are established they are set until somebody (a new protector?) changes them. This is the reason why the MIB was obsessed with “finding a loophole” in order to kill Jacob; it’s also why Jack was ultimately able to kill the MIB. Smokey was connected to the energy source, and when Jack had Desmond “turn off” that energy, Smokey lost his powers and was merely flesh and blood again.
Makes sense…doesn’t it?
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE BABY MAMA DRAMA?
One of the earliest sub-plots of the Lost mythos was the notion that pregnant women died on the Island before they could successfully give birth. This was especially important during season one, back when Claire was pregnant with Aaron and got kidnapped and experimented on by Ethan, a memeber of The Others (“Raised by Another” & “Homecoming“). Of course we now know that Ethan was likely working with baby-doctor Juliet to help Claire – that is before Charlie killed Ethan (oops!) – and that Aaron was likely born on the Island without incident because Claire was already far enough along in her pregnancy before coming to the Island (just like Jacob and the Man In Black’s mother).
However, the pregnancy issue popped up again in season 3 when Sun learned that she was pregnant (“The Glass Ballerina” & “D.O.C.” ) and was a the prominent focus of Juliet’s flashback arch (“One of Us“). So whatever happened to the mystery of the baby mama drama?
Simple answer? Story developments made the issue a moot point in later seasons. Aaron was born fine, Sun eventually gave birth OFF the Island and Juliet died, even after she had no more pregnant patients to tend to. So really, when you think about it, there was no more of this story left to tell.
But does that excuse the fact that we never found out why pregnant women were dying on the Island? It might be bugging you, but I’m chalking this one up to being another random “rule of the Island.” Or maybe electromagnetic mystical lights just aren’t good for fetuses. Either way.
WHAT WAS WITH THE STATUE?
This is one Lost mystery I don’t really need answered. Who built the statue, why they built it and what did represent are all things you can probably find out with some historical research on ancient cultures. People who have done the research claim the statue represents a goddess or fertility or something along those lines, linking the broken statue with the Island’s baby mama drama. Personally, I can neither confirm or deny the historical relevance of the statue - if you’re curious, you should do the research.
As for the relevance of the statue to the Lost mythos: to me was evidence that the Island had been around for a long, long, time, and that people had been coming to it throughout history. So basically, it was a way to let viewers know, “This place plays a pivotal role in mankind’s existence.”
I’m not trying to look much deeper than that.
Continue to Lost contradictions and missing characters…
THE WIDMORE/LINUS CONUNDRUM
Ok… so there’s implication of what the Island’s “rules” are, but that gets a bit problematic when you think back to season 4 of Lost – which is basically about Charles Widmore sending operatives to the island to do what he cannot (get revenge on Ben Linus). There was that whole sub-plot about how it was ‘against the rules’ for Widmore to return to the Island, and how Widmore “changed the rules” by killing Ben’s adopted daughter, Alex. But why would the “rules” of the Island’s protectors apply to these two guys?
In the end, I think the showrunners went for an “It is what it is,” approach with the mystical rules governing the Island; they are convenient plot devices that support the story at various points, but don’t really hold up when looked at in conjunction with the entire series. The Widmore/Linus conundrum is simply one of those holes – a weak point of the Lost mythology, for sure.
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE BLACK PEOPLE?
Remember when Lost had African-Americans as part of its “groundbreaking international cast?” Yeah, I vaguely do too. One friend of mine (and I’m sure of yours) watched the finale chanting “They better bring back Walt!” over and over – but no such luck.
Walt and his father Michael did make latter season Lost appearances: Locke visited Walt off the Island in the season five episode “The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham” and Michael appeared to Hurley as a ghost in season six, explaining the whole “whispers on the Island” thing. Still, many fans wondered why Walt, Michael and the “tailie” priest, Mr. Eko, didn’t reunite with the other cast members at the purgatory all-faith church in the finale.
Well, Michael we know is stuck on the Island as a “whisper” because he can’t move on, due to his killing of Libby and Ana Lucia in season two. Walt was freed from the Island early on, so the journey that bonded the Oceanic passengers in the purgatory universe was one that Walt was never really part of.
As for Mr. Eko, his death in the season 3 episode “The Cost of Living” showed that Eko had come to peace with his life. When told by the ghost of his brother Yemi to “Confess his sins,” Eko refused, saying that he had no guilt to confess; in his life, he did what he had to do to survive. The smoke monster evaluated Eko, who stood resolute about himself, his sins and the faith and redemption he’d ultimately found. After smokey beat Eko to pulp, Eko’s last vision was his young self walking away with his brother, holding the soccer ball they used to play with.
In short: Eko, by finding his faith and coming to peace with himself, had no reason to be in the purgatory world with the others. Wherever his soul was going, it was prepared for that journey – unlike the other passengers, who still had to come to peace with themselves and their deaths.
That all sounds deep, sure, but I’m sure off-screen conflicts with the actors and the fact that Macolm David Kelley (the kid who played Walt) hit puberty were also major factors.
WHAT ABOUT THE POLAR BEARS?
If you’re asking this question, you weren’t really paying attention to the show. Go rent Lost season 3 on DVD and see if you can’t figure out the polar bear “mystery” when the rest of us did… back in 2006. I’ll give you a hint: Dharma Initiative experiments.
WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBERS?
In the season six episode “The Substitute” Un-Locke takes Sawyer down to “Jacob’s cave” on the cliff (where Jack ultimately killed MIB) and in that cave, Sawyer observes that Jacob’s list of “candidates” for his replacement – our Losties – have numbers by their names. The list of candidates (Sawyer, Jack, Locke, Hugo, Sayid and “Kwon”) equate to the numbers 4-8-15-16-23-42 – the numbers that both steered Hurley to the Island in the first place (he went to Australia to find out about them), and served as the code for releasing the Island’s tapped energy in The Swan station. The numbers also showed up again and again throughout the show (Danielle’s papers, on medicine Claire and Desmond take, on Mr. Eko’s stick, etc…).
So in the end the numbers had to do with fate, and were a nice little numerology motif for the showrunners to play with (and a mathematical mystery for fans to agonize over). THE END.
BEN CONTROLS SMOKEY?
In the season 4 episode “The Shape of Things To Come” Ben Linus witnessed the murder of his daughter Alex at the hands of Charles Widmore’s mercenaries. Ben then accessed the secret room in his Dharma house and disappeared into a secret passage covered in hieroglyphics. When Ben returned, he brought the smoke monster with him, which murdered the team of Widmore’s assassins. Now we know the smoke monster was the Man In Black, but some viewers are still confused why Ben was able to “control the monster” in this season 4 episode, but not later in season six.
However, it is never said that Ben “controls” the smoke monster – the best word would be “summons.” This makes sense to the story, as Alex’s death is the event that makes Ben turn to the MIB for a favor – a favor which he later repays in season 5 by killing Jacob for the MIB. It’s the ultimate corruption of Ben Linus – the moment where he goes from being a blind servant of Jacob to serving evil. So I don’t quite consider this a loose end – just another case of misinterpretation by some viewers.
JACOB vs. THE DHARMA INITIATIVE
Ok, so this is MY major question. In one of my favorite Lost episodes, “The Man Behind The Curtain“, we learn all about Ben Linus’ childhood with the Dharma Initiative. The episode ends with the chilling revelation that Ben – conspiring with Richard – betrays “his people” in the initiative and mass murders them using nerve gas – including his own father. Ben then reveals to Locke what ultimately became of the Dharma Initiative: The Others threw their bodies into a gruesome mass grave.
Looking back from the series finale and the “Across The Sea” episode about Jacob’s past, I can’t help but wonder: did Jacob murder the Dharma Initiative?
We know that Richard is an emissary of Jacob – that is, Richard does Jacob’s bidding. So if Richard instructed Ben to kill the Dharma members, doesn’t that imply that Jacob instructed Richard to do so, much the same way Jacob’s “mother” slaughtered the men on the Island when the Man In Black got to close to them?
I find it hard to explain the death of the Dharma Initiative any other way, and that’s a huge narrative problem when you consider that our Losties – many of whom lived with and befriended the Dharma Initiative in the 70s – ultimately serve Jacob as well. They’re serving the man who most likely gave the order to murder their friends and co-workers!
It also blurs the lines between good and evil. Mass murder is never a good thing, so the fact that Jacob at least allowed the mass murder of the Dharma Initiative (it’s his role as “protector,” right?) is pretty ghastly when you think about it. This is the embodiment of “good” we’re supposed to root for? Makes you think the Man In Black wasn’t ALL bad…
WHAT ABOUT THE BOMB?
For me this is also a major problem of the Lost mythology. For much of season 6, many fans assumed (based on the opening to the season six premiere, “LA X“) that the bomb that Jack and Co. detonated in the 70s (the season 5 finale) resulted in the Island sinking and an alternate timeline being created, in which Oceanic 815 never crashed, and things were slightly different in the lives of the passengers.
Now we know that the “alternate timeline” was actually purgatory where the Losties all met up when they were dead, and the whole “alternate timeline” bit was a red herring. So what, exactly, did the bomb do?
The obvious answer is that the bomb propelled the Losties back through time to the present day, where the the Swan station (a.k.a. “The Hatch”) was now a slightly different version of its former imploded self (see the photos below).
Hatch Implosion 1
Hatch Implosion 2
Like most time travel narratives, the situation with the hatch raises a ton of logistical questions, such as: Would Desmond still be on the island if the hatch had been destroyed in the past? Wouldn’t that alteration to the time stream have a ripple effect that disrupted everything else regarding the Oceanic 815 crashing? And so on…
Instead what we got was a time travel scenario where that one location, the 70s Swan station, seemed to “overlap” on its present-day self, while leaving the rest of the time stream unaffected (or something like that). It’s confusing and very problematic – yet another reason why time travel is something you probably want to stay away from as a storyteller…
In the end though, the outcome is the same: Whatever conduit to the Island’s energy source that the Dharma Initiative tapped when they made the Swan station was ultimately exhausted. Whether it was exhausted by the bomb Juliet set off, or the the moment in season 3 when Locke lost his faith and refused to push the button (“Live Together, Die Alone“) the energy was released, and The Swan was destroyed. The Losties made it back to the present, and there was never two timelines, apparently.
Try not to think too hard about it, I guess… But it certainly is a major thread left dangling.
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These are just some of the lingering question Lost has left us with. Did our explanations make sense or are you just as confused as before? For those of you who feel cheated by the finale – did any of these explanations help?
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I agree with desack and I never thought about why I loved it so much. Maybe it’s because I am religious.
just a few questions:
1. How come we never find out the Man in Black’s name?
2. What happens to the new people in the afterlife like Jack’s son?
3. How come Ana Lucia wasn’t in the afterlife? I heart ana lucia<B
4. Why doesn't Ben move on?
1. Creative decision – imo, the character is metamorphic. The lack of a name helps blur the lines between where the smoke moster begins, and where Jacob’s brother (whose corpse lies in the caves) ends.
2. Jack is his son.
3. She was, she drives the police vehicle when Desmond busts Kate and Sayid out of the lock up.
4. He is waiting for his own signifigant others (Danielle, Alex, etc). He will more than likely be the one to help them remember and let go, much as Desmond just did with his signifigant others (i.e. those in the church).
ana lucia did come out. She was still a cop and helped out Desmond escape with Sawyer and Kate.
Ana lucia didnt come out she was doing it for the money in her “made up” cop world she still hadnt accepted she was dead
Correct, Ana Lucia was present in the afterlife, but we did not witness her ‘remembering and letting go’. Imo, similar to Ben, she is waiting for someone.
1. His Name is Barry! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg1qikMstEA
its samuel
1.His mother never gave him a name he wasnt planned so i guess it was just kept that way and kept him in alot of mystery.
2.It was a place Jack created for himself. He wanted to be a dad but not like his father was with him. So in his life he does right with his own son.
3.Desmond said she wasnt ready to move on, meaning she still had to deal with some stuff that she hadnt in her real life.
4.Ben had just got close with Alex and her mother as a teacher. So he probably wanted to do right by actually doing things right with them.
1) If you watch the episode in which the Man In Black and Jacob are born, the true mother didn’t know she was having two children, and she only picked one name: Jacob. That being said, at a Comic-Con convention, some writers told the fans that his name was “Samuel.”
2) Like it was explained, Jack never had a son. He just needed some way to know that this wasn’t his true life(because he never had a son) when he remembered.
3) Ana Lucia had made some sort of peace after her death, and she probably had her alternate world at another time, hence not being there for the other’s Lostie’s alternate time.
4) Ben explains that he has some “unfinished business”, or in other words. having to correct and resolve wrongs he had done in his previous life. For example, he needs to come with full peace about the accident in which Alex’s death was partially his fault.
In season 6, when everyone is in the 70′s. We saw Daniel dancing with some Dharma people. Her boat was supposed to have crashed in 1988ish as Alex was 16 in 2004. So why was she there nearly 10 years before her boat crashed.
I think you are confused between season 6 and season 5. I assume you are referring to the young lady “who brought brownies” and is dancing with Dharma staff member Jerry in episode 508 La Fleur. Her name is Rosie, not Danielle.
So basically they were all dead?
I don’t think the term basically can really be applied.
The flash sideways introduced in season 6 depicted the afterlife.
The events that took place in the first five seasons, and on the island in season 6 depicted reality.
Dear Screenrant.
Why do these same comments permanently book end this thread?
Wouldn’t be so bad but the comments are fairly unrelated to the topic at hand, and take up a lot of space.
Yeah I agree with Sambo
Thanks Sambo
Comments gone! Thank-you SR, very attentive of you, many thanks!
Why does kate`s after life does not change ,or it did change when she said she is not guilty when basically she was ,,so i am a little confused.
I also read one of your answers on the comments ,,that jack`s son was jack ,i think it makes sense ,but i would like to know your perspective of it.
I had a lot of questions but those are the ones that i can actually think of right now.
To me the afterlife was a place where each individual had the chance to confront and deal with their emotional baggage/hangups that they could not deal with in life.
Characters such as Kate and Hurley have less baggage when they died, as they had more time in life to confront these issues. On the other hand, characters such as Jack for example, died whilst still having issues to deal with, in his case, conflicts with his father.
Heres my view on the life to afterlife transitions of some of the characters -
Sawyer – viewed himself as a villain in life, but before he died realized he could be a hero. Therefore Sawyer manifests as an icon of heroism in the afterlife (police officer).
Hurley – believed he was cursed, and was very pessimistic in life, before becoming protector of the island and a powerful force for good who helped people. Therefore he manifests himself as a positive, optimistic person in the afterlife.
Locke – Died asking why? His faith lost. Manifests that way in the afterlife before finally achieving an understanding of existence which restores his faith.
Jack – dies still blaming his father for how he was raised. Jack manifests himself in the afterlife in the role of a father, with his childhood issues represented by a son that he never had. In understanding this “son” Jack is finally able to understand his father. Once these “issues” cease to exist… so does the boy. (Check out their matching haircuts in the scene where Jack is late picking up the boy from school. And the piano playing is a nod to Jack, imo.)
Kate – I’d feel i’d have to re-watch a little before commenting here. I
haven’t given it much thought, I must admit. Any ideas??
Sambo – excellent insight, and I agree. I think a lot of the writing is open-ended and left somewhat to interpretation, tho is perhaps more specific than some think. If you pay attention, some answers are explained. I do think the writers rather shifted along the way, depending on viewers comments and further thought.
I found Locke’s quest most interesting, his trust in faith and the spirituality of the island, only to loose it.
Ben/Michael Emerson is an excellent actor and was most interesting in the show. What a loveable mean-ee!!
Herley had a good heart but was side-tracked in life, but then came around, as did Charlie. I’d like Herley as a close friend.
Sawyer just made me laugh. What a swine! Then he showed remarkable bravery, love, and devotion. He self-sacrificed.
I could go on an on. I will stop.
How come Miles, Mike & son, or Echo found the truth in the end?
I just wanted to make a comment on the statue. This is not a statue of Isis. She had a woman’s face. This is obviously reptilian. I believe that it is the Egyptian God Sobek.
1) He was believed to be the first God to leave the waters of chaos and create the world.
2) He is holding two Ankh which are known as the “key of life”. Not to mention it being an Egyptian hieroglyph that reads “eternal life”.
Make your own conclusions…..
Tawaret?
One question the author had listed as a major conflict was that concerning the fate of the dharma initiative. The way I immediately interprated it when my g/f asked me, was that the Dharma folks seemed very pre-occupied with using that “energy” anomoly for their own profit or gain.
In one of the episodes where Sawyer aka La Fleur was Dharma head of security, the guy Stuart seemed pretty insistent on continuing the drilling, regardless of the possible consequences. I have to believe that had the Dharma Initiative not been eliminated they would have jeopardized the Island itself or the energy that makes the island special. Dunno, if that makes sense but I figured Jacob and Richard would only have agreed to such an extreme measure if it was a “necessary evil”.
On the flip side of the coin, Jacob made it pretty clear in his speech to Richard that he felt he should leave people to their free will without his advice or intervention, therefore Ben ultimately orchestrated the mass murder on his own terms.
Yep, on the right track, here are the specifics.
Richard Alpert and Horrace Goodspeed signed a treaty, allowing the D.I. to
stay on the island, as long as they followed the agreed rules, including a few terms which Alpert specified:
“- If the Dharma Intitiative enters or violates any ruins on the island, the truce is violated.”
“- If the Dharma Intitiative digs or drills any more than ten meters into the ground, even in their designated territory, the truce is violated.”
“- The Dharma Initiative pledges its term of residency will last no longer than fifteen years. At the end of this term, all facilities and personnel are to leave the island.”
“- The maximum population of D.I. members cannot exceed 216 at any one time on the island.”
(Source: ‘Letter of Truce’ from the Season 5 ‘Dharma Orientation’ Box Set)
After constant breaches of these rules, the order to ‘purge’ the D.I. was given by the current leader Charles Widmore. Ben played his part as the “inside man” in this scheme, helping to sabotage the Dharma Station known as the Tempest, to release a lethal chemical gas upon the island and it’s inhabitants.
I want to comment sth. about Walt. I’ve seen the whole sesie renting the dvd’s. In the bonus feature of the last DVD there was a chapter call The New Man in Charge. It was Ben Linus, and in that chapter they show Ben and Hurley going to a mental insane hospital or sth. to talk to Walt who is there. They offer him to come back to the Island to help his dead father. they told him that he was a candidate to replace hurley.
You have a bear with you?? That’s hardcore! Can I come over? We can pet the bear and do the heroin I think you said you have.
when did the rest of the main cast die on the island? in the very ending jack dies lying down staring up at the sky and you see everyone flying off the island. if the atom bomb killed everyone and started the second timeline which is supposedly purgatory, why are they still on the island until they die again?
The atom bomb didn’t kill anyone. Those we see die on the island during the show did just that. All others that escaped on the plane lived out the rest of their lives and died later… Some much much later.
@Travis,
Hey bud, how ya doin? If you get a sec flip back to the previous page, i’d like to get your thoughts on one of the comments there regarding Echo’s demise, if you have any.
Trust you’ve been well my good man.
Hey Sambo,
I’ve been good… hope you’ve been as well. What Echo comments are you referencing? I can’t find them. Thanks.
Hey Sambo,
I found it. Well… there is the very real reason Echo died. He requested the leave due to disagreements with producers on what I believe was monetary issues. Either way Echo wanted off the show… so the writers were forced to kill him. I’ve always thought that it gave us a moment to learn more about the Smoke Monster than Echo. Was Echos name in the cave? That would be the true way to find out if he was in fact a candidate or just a means to aid Locke in his quest for faith. Either way Echo was one of my favorite characters… and it is quite possible that he denied his candidacy when he refused to atone for his sins. Though understandably so because of what he’d been through… it’s possible that he gave away his “second chance” when he refused to be sorry for all the horrible things he’d done. MIB cared not… but it’s possible that Jacob did. So it’s not impossible that Echo lost his candidate status that way.
Cheers, yeah, I thought I remembered you mentioning something about Echo being terminated due to production reasons a while ago, couldn’t quite recall it though… thanks again.
my only question is : how did all of them die? the finale says that they are all dead and found a way to remember each other. Jack dies at the very end from all his wounds, Jin and Sun die in the sub, etc. but how do Kate, Sawyer, Claire, Hugo, Miles, Richard and Frank die and how come Frank, Richard and Miles aren’t in the church at the end of the finale?
Jess…
I feel like such a broken record.
Anyone you didn’t see actually die during the events of the show die just like everyone on the planet eventually dies. How they died isn’t important. More than likely they all died of old age. Kate states that she missed Jack so much when she speaks with him in the flash sideways… Kate is referencing how much she missed him for the remainder of her life after escaping the island. As for others like Bernard, Rose, Hugo, Ben, and those that escaped on the plane all lived out their own individual lives. We see some Hugo’s and Ben’s playing out in the prologue “New Man in Charge”. The thing people need to understand is that the flash sideways doesn’t necessarily happen at the end of the show… with the understanding that that scene happens outside of time as we know it… to fully wrap our heads around we have to look at it with some sense of time. All you need to know to understand it is that the moments we see in the church and the flashsides happen after everyone (eventually dies). As Christian said to Jack, some died before you and some long after.
Never mind, reading the comments i finally got my answers haha ! but one more question. Before Shannon died, she saw Walt, and she ran after him and got killed. What was the explanation to that? Since Walt was not dead, it couldnt be the black monster so how was Walt lurking around the jungle and for what reason?
Jess… as you’ll see in some of the additional footage and in countless episodes of the show. Walt is special. That is the simplest explanation that there is. Not everything on the show needs to be explained. Many things are simply to drive the story forward. However, all things in the show can be logically pieced together given the facts we know. Walt was once asked if he ever found himself in strange places (sort of speak). Many times it’s referenced to how Walt is different, special, unique, and how he can make things happen. We know that he is extremely suited to be the Island’s “Protector” and if it weren’t for the mistakes of his father he more than likely would have taken that place much earlier than he did when Hugo and Ben recruited him. No one was destined to do it… but some of the candidates were better suited for it. Walt had special talents, much like some of the other losties (miles could hear the dead) We accept that even though we know it to be impossible. So we should except that Walt has abilities as well. One of his talents was, well… appearing to people and showing up in places he wasn’t. Not much of an answer… but it’s the one we are given.
ohh okay !
In regards to the hatch; it was going to explode in that time period anyway, remember they had drilled into that pocket of electromagnetism? Whether by a bomb or electromagnetism, the construction site was blown up and that is where the Dharma Initiative built the hatch. The hatch wasn’t destroyed by the bomb; it simply hadn’t been created yet.
That doesn’t explain why the hatch wreckage looks different from the past seasons, but I hope I cleared up some of it for ya
There is actually more evidence that the bomb never exploded at all. The release of energy is what forced them to time travel. They never needed a bomb to travel before… just the wheels of kilter release of the energy. It’s quite possible that that bomb survived and was stored underneath the Swan as the fail safe that Desmond triggers when Locke goes postal. If the bomb had exploded when Juliet hits it that would mean that that power source would have been destroyed as it was when Desmond turned the key. Since the bomb served as a giant red haring to make us believe it caused the flash sideways it’s quite possible that it was just that… a trick… and a good one at that. It was the driving force in the narrative that masked the flash sideways for what it was while we all thought it was an alternate universe caused by the explosion.
If the bomb did explode and didn’t destroy all of the power of the Swan. Then it is also conceivable that Dharma learned for it, got another bomb, and used it as the fail safe knowing that it would at very least temporarily subdue the source of energy. As it may have done while Dharma built the station over it. There is evidence both ways. It’s very interesting and fun to try and wrap your head around.
The hatch sites didn’t match exactly simply because they weren’t shot at the same time. That’s all – a very real world reason. We know that things don’t travel with them as they time travel so nothing moved forward with them as they traveled back to the present. The fact of the matter is that probably the second time they shot the hatch they had to reconstruct it.
I may have to look this up in the Lost encyclopedia.
That’s a cool idea, ‘the bomb could have been used as the swan hatch fail safe’, I like that. Nice one Travis.
Obviously the person at the head of this blog is only and only speculating. Why ? Because they are not related in any way to the makers of the script nor the synopsis and storyboard.
This series was maybe, and I say maybe as I cannot be sure of anything really, designed so we can all explain the meaning the way we see fit …I’m just saying.
Nevertheless, everything I was able to rad here is the product of one person imagination and can certainly not be taken too seriously.
Cheers !!!
I just finished the entire series (all 6 seasons)….took me 2 weeks…
needless to say my butt hurts.
I’ve read this thread and all I have to say is….watch the whole series again and see the incredible genius and profundity of it….
I will not share my views of the final season (or any for that matter) because they are mine and mine alone.
I will say that the writes,actors, sets, production, direction etc,etc…were impossibly brilliant!