‘The Lone Ranger’ – SR Underground Ep. 99

Published 2 years ago by , Updated February 15th, 2014 at 10:25 pm,

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The Screen Rant editorial team is back with episode ninety-nine of the Screen Rant Underground podcast.

Join host Ben Kendrick, fellow SR editors Rob Keyes and Kofi Outlaw, as well as special guest Perri Nemiroff, as we review Disney’s The Lone Ranger, offer Justice League and Batman reboot updates, and discuss the possibility of Darth Maul returning in a future Star Wars movie. Plus answer your mailbag questions.

Screen Rant Underground is available on the iTunes Music StoreStitcher Radio, or the Windows Phone Marketplace but if you’re not near your home computer, check out our ninety-ninth episode in the player below.

Also, Screen Rant Underground is an EXPLICIT podcast. We don’t go out of our way to say controversial things or use explicit language but it does happen – so use discretion when playing the podcast at work and around young, or sensitive, ears.


Screen Rant Underground: Episode 99 - The Lone Ranger

We review Disney’s The Lone Ranger, offer Justice League and Batman reboot updates, and discuss the possibility of Darth Maul returning in a future Star Wars movie. Plus answer your mailbag questions.

[0:00] News: Christian Bale Says He Won’t (& Shouldn’t) Return For ‘Justice League’ – Who Should Play Batman Now? and Ray Park Wants to Return as Darth Maul in a New ‘Star Wars’ Movie – What Other Characters Should Return?

[55:48] Mailbag: Are Superhero Movies a Bubble That Will Soon Burst (Read the Cracked article – HERE) and Are International Moviegoers More Forgiving of Hollywood Blockbusters?

[1:29:45] Review: The Lone Ranger (read our full The Lone Ranger review).

[1:48:23] The Lone Ranger SPOILERS conversation (join our Lone Ranger spoilers discussion).

[2:06:37] Twitter Handles and Contact Information.

[2:08:33] Game Rant News Brief.

Hosts: Ben Kendrick, Rob Keyes, Anthony Ocasio, and Kofi Outlaw.



Next Week: Pacific Rim Review and Comic-Con 2013 Preview

Last Week’s Official Box Office Battle Reader Winner (White House Down opening): Sal reports a 3-way tie between Tyler A, Sam Howard, and Shawn Sendio. They all had decent scores of 11. But Sam Howard hit the tiebreaker and is therefore the official winner.

Opening in theaters this week (Wide):

  • Grown Ups 2 – 3,000+
  • Pacific Rim – 3,300+

Opening this Week in Theaters (Limited):

  • V/H/S 2

Use the comment section below to continue our various discussions by weighing in with your own thoughts – or just to let us know what you think of the show.

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  1. I love the new logo! Is that the screen rant shirt that Anthony is working on for the box office battle winner?

    • Torture Dwarf Island sounds like one of my failed pitches to Cobra Commander…

    • Glad you dig it! :)

    • The logo just incorporates our new site-wide SR branding but the T-Shirts will likely be similar.

  2. As much as I love Christian Bale’s perfromance, its not my Batman and we need a new different Batman for a DC shared universe. KARL URBAN FOR BATMAN! Garrett Hedlund for Aquaman and Sam Worthington for Hawkman.

    I would absolutely love for Darth Maul to come back. Darth Maul is such a wasted opportunity and he could have been such an interesting villain in ways even Darth Vader wasn’t. What do we get instead? Count Crappy Dooku. What we all secretly want is a Porkins origin movie.

    Oh, and I was thanking the last 30 minutes of Matrix Revolutions during Man of Steel ;)

    • No wonder Kofi loved ‘Man of Steel’ so much then – since he loved ‘The Matrix Revolutions’ so much!

  3. It seems like Warner’s has no plan or if they do they have some serious secret plans that nobody can find out about. I think the plan for WB/DC should be just to get this Man of Steel Universe going & then go with a Batman/Superman movie. Batman/Superman movie alone should/could earn you a Billion Dollars just by name recognition alone. They should just make some solo movie but I think Rob makes a great point that Marvel has Feige overseeing the Marvel Universe & DC is WB so no 1 person is making it his life to setup a DC Universe.

    I think making like an X-Men Danger Room program of Darth Maul as a simulation that you have to defeat to move on as a Jedi(similar to Kofi’s point)is a great way to bring him back without having to make up a convoluted storyline.

    • It does seem that, more and more, Warner Bros. probably doesn’t have a particularly ambitious plan – and, instead, will just introduce “safer” core characters (ex. The Flash) for awhile while churning out sequels (ex. Man of Steel 2).

  4. A clean-shavened Anson Mount with short hair looks like the perfect Bruce Wayne in my opinion.

    • How do you feel about an unshaven Jeff Goldblum?

      • WHERE WERE YOU >:(

      • Jeff Goldblum would be cool but I’m worried that the Justice League wouldn’t get along because his Batman would definitely sleep with everyone’s girlfriends. Really not good for the team dynamic.

  5. A unshaven Jeff Goldblum is one word….sexy!….lol

    • ..In a manliest way possible..

  6. 1. If Nolan isn’t involved in MOS 2, then that film will be in trouble imo.

    2. And I’m with Kofi about the TDKR. He didn’t have the same fire as he had in the first, or even the second one. There were some extremely lazy moments in the film, and they didn’t seem Nolan like.

    3. And CBM’s aren’t going anywhere. What people are getting tired of is origins.

    • I agree with you and Kofi. I thought he seemed spent and less enthusiastic. Plus, Tom Hardy stole the show!

    • why?, nolan wasnt that involved with mos.

      • But he was involved. I don’t trust David S. Goyer or Zack Snyder with a script by themselves.

    • I remember back a year when we took a lot of heat for having problems with TDKR. We all enjoyed the film but, after rewatching it a couple times, it really does come across as though Bale/Nolan just weren’t as passionate about a third go-round.

  7. I don’t think it is as important to have Nolan involved in these movies. But for some reason, people feel as though they are tied to him. Two things: 1) Nolan said the end of the Dark Knight Rises was the end of the Batman story he wanted to tell. Then OK let someone else continue the story of Batman and his involvement with the Justice League. 2) If they are going to back a truck up to someones home it should be Christian Bale. Audiences are going to have a hard time accepting another actor as the Dark Knight or in the vary least making constant comparisons which plagued Henry Cavill and contributed to bad reviews for an actor who had not been in the role since 1987…and Bale was Batman last year>

    The fact that WB has already once made a decision to cast Armie Hammer as Batman concerns me a great deal. I am not confident the next one will be well received. I would rather they not have a Justice League than to have a rebooted Batman in it. If they do it under performs then chalk ANOTHER win for Marvel which was able to secure Robert Downey Jr. for future Avengers movies under similar circumstances.

    • I think Nolan, like Kofi mentioned, is really great at coming up with ways for these characters to work in a modern context – but, if he is going to be involved, I’d rather him come up with an initial concept then hand over the writing to someone like Goyer and a director like Snyder. I really doubt we’ll see Nolan directly overseeing many (if any) of the future superhero movies – I tend to think he really is going to focus on his original stories going forward.

  8. FYI- That cavalry officer that slaughtered all those indians by mistake? That was Bruckheimer’s take on General Custer….. You know from history? Custer’s Last Stand? The “Indian Fighter” army general with long blond curly hair…… Got his ass kicked at Little Big Horn and died. As soon as I saw the actor on screen, I’m going, ok General Custer is here where is Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse?

    Oh but wait….. The Indian tribes in the battle against General Custer were the Cheyenne and the Sioux! The only tribe featured in the Lone Ranger were Comanche. That’s going to make a great restitution for Indian genocide.

    Epic FAIL Johnny Depp!!

    • Yeah, I’m not sure how Depp could possibly have accomplished his goal of improving the portrayal of Native Americans onscreen with this film. They’re portrayed as sympathetic but that’s not anything new. I understand they used to be portrayed as “savages” but Hollywood mostly did away with that cliche decades ago.

  9. 1. Pacific Rim
    2. Grown Ups 2
    3. Despicable me 2
    4. Lone Ranger
    5. The Heat
    10 This is the End

  10. I’m surprised you guys were so harsh on The Lone Ranger! I thought there were a lot more successful moments and prominent story elements worth talking about. Gotta disagree with you guys on this one. :(

    • The story elements you’re referring to are from The Mask of Zorro ;)

      • With Antonio Banderas? Wow, I don’t think I remember anything about that movie.

  11. 1. grown ups 2
    2. despicable me 2
    3. pacific rim
    4. the lone ranger
    5. the heat
    10. this is the end

  12. I thought the Lone Ranger was an alright movie…there were times when I loved it, and times when I laughed at its stupidity. Not once did I laugh at its humor. Like you talked about, I could obviously see the supernatural element that was unnecessarily left in the movie, but your complaint about the silver bullet should be completely void. The Lone Ranger has always used silver bullets, werewolves of not! So while there were weird supernatural tidbits left in this draft of the movie for some odd reason, the silver bullet factor was definitely not one of them.

    • The silver bullet was undoubtedly tied to the original werewolf theme and in this story, by itself, it’s seemingly used only as such which is strange. Moviegoers who knew about the script change but didn’t watch the original may see just that too (like me).

      • Ben, Parker means that even in the original stories silver bullets were used–the bullet is not left over from the supernatural storyline developed in this movie, rather the werewolf angle was built around it.

        • … Rob, not Ben. My bad.

  13. I’ve been saying all along, I think we’re just getting Man of Steel 2. With the crowded summer schedule in 2015, we’re probably looking at 2016 for when we get that.

    Your discussion about Star Wars raised an interesting question. Just how tied to the prequels are the new movies going to be? I don’t see JJ Abrams making too many references to midichlorians in Episode 7. I think Disney wants people to forget about those abominations ASAP. I wouldn’t be surprised if Mickey Mouse went door to door and burned every copy of the prequels.

    • I doubt we’ll see much (if any) prequel material tie-ins in Episode 7. I’m sure they’re just going to continue the part of Star Wars that people like – and expand their movie universe using Ep. 4-6 as a springboard. That said, some of the spinoffs might need to draw loosely from prequel material – just to keep everything in canon.

  14. Pacific rim
    Grown ups 2
    Dispic 2
    Lone Ranger
    This is end

  15. Pacific rim
    Grown ups 2
    Dispicable me 2
    Lone Ranger
    This is end

  16. Ben — FYI the plural of Jedi is Jedi. Not Jedis.

    • Good to know. Thanks.

  17. Re: Superhero Bubble Burst. I do think studios run the risk of burn out if they keep rebooting the same core characters over and over again. I would like to give audiences the benefit of the doubt and say we have a breaking point and if there’s too many Batman reboots or yet ANOTHER Spider-Man origin story, I think people will get sick of it. Rehashing things won’t work.

    To me, the Dark Knight trilogy is in the same category as Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, Indiana Jones, etc. It’s in that stratosphere of the zeitgeist. Movie and comic books are different mediums with different needs. Once movie fans find a version of something they really like, they’re cool with it. That’s why there’s a Star Wars sequel instead of a Star Wars reboot. That’s why there’s no new actor playing Indiana Jones. I think there’s a fine line to walk here.

  18. Heads Up Darth Maul didn’t Die he Came Back in a Comic with a Robot lower Half

  19. 1 pacific rim
    2 grown ups 2
    3 dispicible me 2
    4 Lone Ranger
    5 heat
    This is the end

  20. I believe that during the podcast I heard Perri state that she believes “The Wolverine” will not do so well. I have to disagree with that statement. I am a fan, I have seen the trailers and I have listened to the interviews with the cast. The movie may not do so well, financially, but I believe that it’s hugely possible that they put together a decent film this time.

    I’m on my break, so I am pressed for time, but for anyone one the bubble about seeing the movie, please give it the benefit of doubt, don’t judge it by “X-Men Origins Wolverine”.

    I believe that they made an effort to make this one better and they deserve credit for that effort.

    • I think a lot of people are willing to give Wolverine the benefit of the doubt and it could be a very solid film. Still, I don’t think the marketing of the movie has been very good – especially in attempts to draw in less-dedicated casual viewers. I doubt it’ll flop but I do think they’ll have a challenging time getting non-comic book fans in the door for that one. So it had better deliver big time to its core audience.

      • I have to admit that just based on the character’s appearance, especially the claws, it would be hard to attract people that aren’t familiar with the character and the comics, yeah.

        Superman has such a “clean-cut” recognizable look and background, his character just seems to have an unfair advantage over someone like Wolverine.

        I still hope the movies does as well as possible.

  21. I’m in agreement with Perri about recasting all the roles for a Justice League movie. However, as Rob stated, the WB is in control of these films. So, my opinion is that we won’t see a Justice League movie for quite a while. They are going to focus on the Man of Steel franchise and perhaps introduce another second tier character. Still, I doubt they’ll do any other second tier characters because look at their track record…Catwoman, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern. That’s three strikes.

    My guess. Man of Steel will be the focus for the rest of this decade. Then, they’ll look into starting fresh with a Justice League franchise with an entire new cast. In 8 to 10 years, we’ll see Asa Butterfield cast as Clark Kent, Jaden Smith as John Stewart, Abigail Breslin as Princess Diana, Dakota Goyto as Barry Allen, and Kodi Smit-McPhee as Bruce Wayne.

    • Holy cow, my head just exploded reading that reboot list. I hope that doesn’t come to pass but, sadly, I don’t think you’re far off the mark in terms of what they could end up doing down the line (especially if they can’t get traction with any other characters but Batman and Superman).

  22. Box Office Battle

    1. Despicable me 2
    2. Pacific Rim
    3. Grown Ups 2
    4. The Heat
    5. Lone Ranger
    10 This is the End

  23. World’s Finest after MOS 2 \o/

    BTW: Please no Bale. Worst..Batman…voice…EVER!!

  24. Kofi Outlaw is the Editor-in-Chief of Screenrant.com, why is he listed as ‘fellow senior editor’ in the show description. Is this a mistake or is something amiss. Give the guy his respect.

    • JB –

      The “SR” at the top of the page stands for fellow “Screen Rant” editors NOT “Senior” editors.

      For me, and I can’t speak for anyone else, the podcast is a casual conversation among friends, so our titles at the site had never really ever been pointed out to me before in the context of the podcast. The intention isn’t to short-change Kofi any respect that he deserves.

  25. New logos site and look for the podcasts is looking great!

    • Thanks! Glad you like it.

  26. 1 – Despicable Me 2
    2 – Pacific Rim
    3 – Grown Ups 2
    4 – The Heat
    5 – The Lone Ranger
    10 – Man of Steel

  27. Pacific rim
    Grown ups 2
    Dispicable me 2
    The Lone Ranger
    The Heat
    Man of Steel..

    One more episode and you guys can go into syndication….

  28. 1-Pacific Rim
    2 Grown ups 2
    3 Despicable Me 2
    4 Heat
    5 The Lone Ranger

    10-Kevin Hart: Let Me Explain

  29. #1 Despicable Me 2
    #2 Pacific Rim
    #3 Grown Ups 2
    #4 The Lone Ranger
    #5 The Heat
    #10 This is the End