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doctorwu says:

These Hollywood schmucks are really digging deep into the zeitgeist of America. I must admit I was a Lone Ranger fan but not the ranger. Tonto was the man in my book. I cringed every time he called Moore Kemosabe or something like that, it supposed to mean trust worthy scout or some nonsense.

I cannot get with Depp playing Tonto, whats next Brad Pitt as Kato? Really, they can’t find a Native American actor? This reminds me of West Side Story where Natalie Wood plays a Puerto Rican. Gimme A Break!

Longshanks says:

Another unnecessary remake/redo.

The only way I would’ve been remotely interested in seeing this is if they got John Woo to direct it.That might actually have been interesting.

Robert Palmar says:

The Lone Ranger is a special childhood hero and
I cannot imagine anyone filling Clayton Moore’s boots.
Whoever they cast must possess commanding authority
which eliminates just about all actors today, especially Clooney.

Russel Crowe has it and he would not need horse riding lessons.
I am fine with Depp as Tonto, he is part Cherokee Indian
and Johnny will make him convincingly all Indian.

prtfvr says:

I’m guessing that Johnny Depp was interested in the part because he is part Native American, Cherokee I think. Maybe he thought it would be fun to do. Kind of like Dark Shadows. Depp as a little vampire? I can’t wait.

doctorwu says:

Depp is a very good actor but Native American he ain’t. Why I am being so stubborn? Because a Native American is more than a sixteenth a drop of blood. There are plenty of Native American actors who could do this without having a make artist color their skin and change their hair. And oddly enough they would be all Indian. Yep, I know this is all just make believe. Denzel Washington has Germanic dna I’d like to be the first to put him up for the role of Thor.

Andy S says:

I agree with the good doctor. Depp as Tonto?? There are PLENTY of Native American actors that can do that role, heck even Lou Diamond Phillips would be a better choice than Depp. I like Depp, but just not for this part!!

I also do not like the idea of Nicolas Cage as the Lone Ranger. I’m sure he’d be ok, but how about Brad Pitt as the Ranger if they’re looking for a big star for the role? Think about it.

Robert Palmar says:

Jay Silverheels was certainly the perfect Tonto.

Fortunately, Hollywood did not insist on
casting a Native American for the role.

Jay Silverheels was Canadian.

prtfvr says:

Canada is North America and they had Indians too.

Hi Ho Silver, no way.

Robert Palmar says:

Native American refers to the American Indian.
The Indians indigenous the the USA, not Canada.

Source: The Oxford English Dictionary.

prtfvr says:

Well darn it. There goes my expertise in the Native American. I sure thought they didn’t have a force field around the US border since it didn’t exist before we took it over but when I’m wrong I admit it. I’m wrong and I hate that. There were not other Indians except in the US. And movies never take liberties with their Indian is from. Like they care about reality.

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I should read before I make statements like that. I am sorry.

Robert Palmar says:

A person born in Canada of American Indian or
Inuit descent is referred to as a Native Canadian.

greenknight333 says:

I’m a native North AMerican , never been to India so please stop calling us Indians…too many negative connotations with that word..and I think an actual aboriginal with a strong acting background should play Tonto…Thank-You, Come again!!

prtfvr says:

greenknight333: I sincerely apologize.

greenknight333 says:

@pvtfvr

No offense taken prtfvr..you have a great sense of humor and you usually tend to keep your comments it lighthearted and eloquently kind..I was just pointing out that most of my Native relatives and friends dislike the term “Indian” it’s a misnomer that carries baggage we don’t like..but it’s better than a lot of stereotypical things I have been called in my life..and Thank-You for the apology but like I already said you never come across as someone who is the least bit malicious or who would stereotype.ANd you are so very right about Hollywood and their portrayal of Native Americans/Canadians…but Hollywood is great at perpetuating stereotypes to sell thier product..

Cheers :)

prtfvr says:

@greenknight333

Yes, we’ve spoken before and we’ve always had fun. I would have apologized to anyone I’d offended and when I’m wrong I’m wrong but I especially didn’t want you to think that I didn’t respect your feelings.

Back to joking around? :)

Robert Palmar says:

The term American Indian is not offensive to all Native Americans.
The United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians in Oklahoma
and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians are two of many
tribes that insist on the using American Indian name.

greenknight333 says:

Sounds good :)

greenknight333 says:

@ Robert Palmar

I am not referring to the United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians and and the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians..or even my Aboriginal friends who don’t care if you call them eskimos when they are actually Innu and Innuit..

I was talking about me, my family, my extended family and my Aboriginal friends..WE don’t like the term “Indians”..that’s all..

prtfvr says:

That must be what greenknight said earlier when he said that “most of my Native relatives and friends dislike the term “Indian””.

Frankly, I don’t think they should remake that show in the first place. I sort of remember it and wasn’t it a bit racist anyhow? You know they’re going to have to change a lot of stuff to make it PC.

Now are we all buddies again because my back and knees hurt and I don’t feel like arguing terminology anymore. I’ve apologized, greenknight has accepted my apology. I call this “Case Closed”. Who’s with me!! ;)

prtfvr says:

@greenknight333

There’s your problem, always talking about yourself: Me, Me, Me. ;)

I’m an American but I’m made up of German, Engish, Irish, and French. Plus whatever my hit and run dad added to the mix. He didn’t leave a note but he left my mother with a big surprise. You know how those “I’m leaving in the morning, I’ve been drafted.” stories go. Personally, I suspect she just wanted to get laid but what do I know.

Goodness, that was off topic. How rude.

Now let’s stop talking about this, it’s making my head hurt. That an my lovebird making his little machine say “hello” and a bunch of other stuff. I thought I liked rap but this is killing me! ;)

Robert Palmar says:

@greenknight333

I said not all Native Americans are offended by the term
which implies some indeed are and I read you yourself are.

Your comments seemed to imply anyone using the term Indian
was perpetuating stereotypes and perhaps had malicious intent.

prtfvr says:

Didn’t I say to cut this out?

Let’s talk about the Lone Ranger’s tight spandex pants. He must have had to strap that bad boy down!
Was it small and didn’t need hiding or was it huge and require Gorilla tape? That’s gotta hurt!

Amd that mask! How stupid were these people that a tiny mask confounded them. He didn’t even change the sound of his voice. He must have been trying the help the stupid American section.

I really shouldn’t write when I’ve taken so much Oxycodone. I get bonus stupid, darn it! And yet I’m still going to press post comment. WEEEEEE!

Ok, now ponder that for a while.

greenknight333 says:

@ prtfvr

I have a Lone Ranger joke..it’s a little dirty but I’ll clean it up a bit..

Lone Ranger & Tonto are riding their horses through the Arizona desert when a rattlesnake scares LR’s horse Silver causing Silver to toss the Lone Ranger to the ground where the snake proceeds to bite the Lone Ranger on his pee-pee and man-sack(sorry Vic..that’s as clean as I can make it for you)..The LR is writhing in pain and he asks Tonto to ride to the next town to get help..Tonto agrees and he rides into town to consult with the doctor and he tells the doctor that ke-mo sah-bee was bitten by a rattlesnake and he is looking for help..The doctor tells Tonto that he is too busy tending to a gunshot victim to help but that the LR will be fine if he just can suck the poison out of the wound.. SO Tonto nods and politley thanks the doctor and rides back to his friend who is still in pain and close to unconsciousness..The Lone Ranger asks Tonto what the doctor said to do to which Tonto replies

“Doctor said you are going to die ke-mo sah-bee…”

I love that joke!!

Cheers :)

prtfvr says:

@greenknight333

ROTFL!

Don’t worry about cleaning up jokes for me. It’s all good, baby. :)

Robert Palmar says:

@prtfvr

You post was not visible yet
when I was answering greenknight333.
I noticed your post only after my post was entered.

prtfvr says:

@ Robert Palmer

I claim being high on the stupidity of my responses. That should cover every thing.

I can’t believe how Vic bragged to me about how fast he healed from back surgery. I’m SO jealous.

greenknight333 says:

@ Robert Palmar

Cease & Desist Dude!!

Not all are offended by the term, and I won’t be offended if someone does use it as long as they are not offended if I ask them not to call me that..Your point is moot in relation to mine and prtfvr’s posts..Po-tay-toe, poe-ta-toe..Obviously not everyone uses the word maliciously but I DON’T LIKE THE TERM…Never have, never will…Can we please stop this now or are we going to volley again?

greenknight333 says:

Between the three of us we have actually made the Lone Ranger thread a very active one indeed..even if it has nothing to directly do with the Lone Ranger.. :)

prtfvr says:

Well, I never liked the Lone Ranger anyhow. Tonto always seemed to be the one doing all the work.

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