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Firewalker says:

yes, I know i’ve seen my share.

Maybe Reeves should do the sequel, I already have the plot

The ever popular heavy-goth metal band “Blood-Thirsty” makes it american debut tour Fronted by the much wanted sexual charged lead singer Oskar. but wait a minute the hype in America is not about Oskar its about the mysterious Hypnotic twelve year old drummer ELI…….A reporter starts to link the band with the mysterious deaths of beautiful young girls….. You know where I’m going with this?…….LOL

firewalker

SIN187UM says:

I have to agree that HOLLYWOOD NEEDS TO STOP REMAKING JAPANESE HORROR FILMS. THEY SUCK!

Hopefully this dvd will be worth the free rental I used at blockbuster today.

Cloverfield was scary?

Longshanks says:

Just out of curiosity to all those who liked this movie,if this really isn’t a horror movie,or is supposed to be “more” than a horror movie,then what was so “haunting about it?

I just recently watched this movie expecting something truly great,and what I got was pretentious mediocrity.

Like one of the early posters said,it was extremely boring,and I will add,awkwardly paced,and had too many scenes that didn’t amount to anything or help move the story along.The acting was just ok,and there were too many characters that were just kinda useless.

Now Before I watched it,I had absolutely no idea of what to expect,except that it was a Swedish vampire movie.I think that some of the things were just ok,some of them I actually laughed out loud at,and a couple were actually pretty good,but most of the time I found myself saying “when is this going to go somewhere?”

I personally feel like that sometimes there are films that’s just on the fringe of being a “different” type of film without actually going over to the David Lynch side of “different”,that a lot of people latch onto it for dear life like it’s a new holy grail of movies and that if they like it then they belong to some sort of special club of movie connoisseurs.Donnie Darko,No Country For Old Men,The Fountain,Pan’s Labyrinth,all movies that I personally don’t understand what all the rave was about,and this movie fits perfectly into that puzzle of not so good movies that everyone seems to love so much.

And before anyone says it,I don’t give a rat’s @ss about Twilight.

J BIZ says:

I finally got to see this film and I loved it. I recommend it to all fans of film.

SIN187UM says:

@ppnkof

I’d have to say Infernal Affairs was better than The Departed. Mainly what killed it for me was the opening narrative that really had nothing to do with the film except to show Nicholson’s character was a turd.
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Well I willed myself through the film finally. Though the film was good it was just BORING to me. This seemed more like a drama/soft love story with a vampire more than horror. It used a standard formula of an outcast usually picked on who becomes or befriends a supernatural force to help him/her gain some sort of confidence to get back at their tormentors. The only thing that I saw that could be remotely haunting was the eyes and how the girl had a body crafted by Andre Toulon. Im not even sure why that scene was necessary….??? I guess the definition of horror has changed because most new horror movies fail at it. And sorry but there was not scary about Cloverfield, just a better version of Godzilla. I’d have to also disagree with the comment on the dvd box cover of best vampire movie ever, for me it’s The Lost Boys.

Dell says:

It is a slow moving movie but I don’t see it as boring at all. It takes it’s time to actually let things develop without forcing them by hurrying us along from one action scene to the next. For me, this made it an excellent movie. I do agree that it is much more a drama than a horror movie.

And that there was nothing even remotely scary about “Cloverfield.”

Firewalker says:

Cloverfield not scary???
Are you a horror fan?
Are you alive or are you a member of the living dead?
I don’t suppose you found the Blair Witch Project scary either?

baker2d says:

Cloverfield was an amazing movie, but not remotely scary. Also, Blair Witch was as scary as 28 Days Later, not scary at all.

Firewalker says:

Just my point. George Romero was right!
They walk amongst us

SIN187UM says:

@ Firewalker

Not everyone scares as easily as you. Being a horror fan doesn’t mean believing that everything tagged as horror is scary. Did you have nightmares for a month after watching Cloverfield and blairwitch? Furthermore Blair Witch not scary either. Sorry but not many horror movies produced now a days are scary. Mostly they give wtf moments and damn he/she got jacked up moments. Being a fan of horror doesn’t mean being a mindless sheep that just says yes its labeled as horror so its scary. Furthermore Cloverfield was more Sci-Fi than horror.

Bill Blume says:

I saw this movie, and I have to say it was one of the most unique takes on the vampire myth that I’ve ever seen. The idea of Eli still, somewhat being a child mentally was kind of an interesting twist.

The romantic overtones of the relationship made me a bit uncomfortable. I think that had more to do with the fact that real children were being put in a position to act out these events as opposed to the story itself. The film, in that sense, skirts a fine line of mature filmmaking as opposed to child pornography (that statement might stir a bit of controversy. Sorry if it does). That said, it’s the film’s unwillingness to flinch from where the story demands to go that makes this such a great film. I suspect an Americanized version will find this very difficult to handle.

The other challenge to this film in a remake: the casting. Those two kids did an incredible job. The young girl playing Eli delivers such a dead-on (sorry, my turn for the obligatory pun) performance. She is both the child and the ancient vampire.

Yes, it’s a bit slow. If I didn’t know that it was going to be a vampire film going into it, I don’t think I’d have the patience to watch it.

A very good review here. I think it hits on a lot of the important points about this film.

SIN187UM says:

@ Bill Blume

I can see how the “romantic” overtones could make people uncomfortable, but it’s also a reference to maturing which that is about the age kids, tweens or whatever start to become attracted to the opposite sex. As for the the skirting with child pornography, there was none. A boy in his undies is VERY DIFFERENT from a nude boy prancing around, plus there was no sexual activity between him and an adult or him and the girl, who also was not nude at anytime. Even the Puppet Master scene as unnecessary as it was, was clearly a fake molding.

Also she was taken care of like a child and to portray that to deter suspicion so it’s not mind boggling that the character’s mind set would be that of a child, besides Kirsten Dunst played the same character in Interview with the Vampire.

Sorry, but I saw nothing new on the vampire myth take. Even when she started dying because she didn’t have permission to come in is still along the same lines of rendering a vampire weak and somewhat powerless thus easy to kill if they don’t have permission to come in.

Pixie Child says:

I can be against certain facets of
American culture if I want to. The reason that a remake of ‘Let The Right One In’ being filmed in America is a waste is because of Hollywood. Some films made there are good but most of American films I like would be cast as indie.

The simple reason is this: the director might be gifted, the cast be perfect, the script well written etc but the producer is the one who ulimately makes the decisions. The producer is under pressure from the studio and in effect films from Hollywood are now about making money rather then films. One way to make money is to be is to not confront anyone at all so no one is offended and everyone will see the films.

It is not that I have anything against remakes and I just don’t like it when the makers of a film assume I’m stupid or narrow minded therefore unable to challenging entertainment.

Sure the American might be good or surpass the Swedish film but that is only if it surives the process of being turned into a cash cow.

cine_phil says:

This is really just a wonderful, exceptional movie which manages to create emotional somersaults after watching and thinking about it. I just hope that many more people will be able to experience that (with the right subtitles of course…) in the future!

@ Bill Blume
The love story here is a very innocent, tender one, with no sexual intentions. Or let me quote Alfredson here from an interwiew he gave an other movie site some time ago:

“….My impression has always been that the vampire bite has been a sexual act – the beauty turning herself over to the beast. In this story sex is totally left out, the urge of drinking blood is just a matter of nutrition. It’s so beautiful with this love story between these teenagers without a moment itching hardons, incipient breasts or parents who wants to talk about pregnancy.

Just plain tenderness and eternal love. That’s really cool. No sex please, we’re Swedish! ” :-)

Firewalker says:

@SIN187UM

No I do not get nightmares from films or scary easy, but I did after survieing a bomb blast in beirut in the 80’s hence firewalker but that’s another story I’ve been in love with films all my life so a scary film for me involves a certain amount of investment into the characters, so when not so good things happen (suspensefull way-see alfred hitchcook) to them yes i get scaried (entertaiment). So in my opinion again Cloverfield and The Blair Witch Project and yea 28 days later Have the elements of a good story, character investment and suspense and in addition the films have a cinema verite stlye which gave a realistic feel and yes because of my investment into the film made the horror even more frightening, so please what films have made you scared?

SIN187UM says:

@ Firewalker

The only film that has ever truly scared me was John Carpenters The Thing, and that was when I was like 5 or 6. But now nothing scares me as far as horror movies go, and I always compare “scare factor” to that film and how I felt back in the day. Other wise for me its just shock factor these movies. So for me if a movie isn’t giving me a nightmare later on then its not scary, hence Cloverfield and Blair Witch.

Firewalker says:

@ SIM187UM
i understand your pain Both “The Thing” fims were frightening, especially charpenter’s.

I saw the original Night of the Living Dead when I was 7 or 8 and I know today I was way to young for that film.

There’s a little known film from Norway now on DVD called “Cold Prey” you might like I loved it, nothing like a Winter setting, if you see it or saw it already let me know what you think.

Firewalker says:

sorry i just realized I wrote @SIM187UM instead of @SIN187UM

SIN187UM says:

@ Firewalker

Yes I have seen Cold Prey, it was decent with a very good twist at the end. NP on the misspell.

Have you seen The Burrowers?

Firewalker says:

@SIN187UM

No I haven’t is it playing in the threaters? or is it out on DVD?

I just returned the “tell no one” DVD not a horror but a very good suspense thriller. and another good thriller “true crimes”

I’ll look for the the Burrowers and give you my review.

SIN187UM says:

@ Firewalker

Yes it is on DVD, at Blockbuster I know. I think I saw tell no one on the shelf. Is it similar to Dirty pretty Things?

Firewalker says:

@SIN187SUM

sorry I haven’t seen “dirty pretty things” but i quickly looked up a review and now my interest is sparked the film looks good The director Stephan Frears has done a couple of good films in the past “The Grifters”, “my beautiful laundrette”.

“Tell No One” is similar to the “fugitive” but alittle more character driven and updated

The Film “Splinter” now on DVD is my next must see.

Also “Dirty Little Things” sounds like it might be similar to another little gritty film that came out a couple of years ago called “Running Scared” which i really liked

SIN187UM says:

@ Firewalker

Oh man I need to stop by blockbuster again so I can get a copy of Splinter, it looks along the same lines of Alien Raiders. Yes Dirty Pretty Things is a good drama/thriller that is well acted. I’ll see if they have tell no one there also.

SIN187UM says:

@ Firewalker

Saw Splinter the other day. It was pretty good, just too short. Let me know if u watch it and what u think of it.

Firewalker says:

@SIN187UM

Sorry I tried to rent “Splinter” at blockbuster but they were all out. blockbuster will probably be out of it for awhile. They only carry 3 copies but they have over 30 copies of Twilight, and other mass appeal crap. When i get a chance I’m going to watch those other films you recommend.
I’ll probably end up buying Splinter.

Ken J says:

Ok, I finally rented this and saw this movie. Firstly, I unfortunately got the crappy subtitle version, not the theatrical version, but anywho.

I liked the movie, I’ve never had any interest in vampire movies, especially how they make them seem so romantic or whatever. This movie wasn’t like that, it was treated kind of realistically, and the focus of the movie was less of the fact that one of them is a vampire, and more of a drama between the two main characters. But the part that kind of bugged me…

**SPOILER ALERT**

was the fact that this “romance” not only was it between a young boy and Eli, a much older vampire trapped in a kid’s body, but also that Eli wasn’t even a girl… So it’s really, if you think about it, technically a romance between an old man and a young boy… I know the circumstances are not typical, but in a way that’s what it was… Weird… Let’s just say I know for sure the crappy remake of it will most likely not include that aspect of the movie…

jago says:

@ken j

SPOILER ALERT

Not a girl…? then you must have seen something completely different then what i saw because they actually show her downstairs in the version that i saw… and it was female.

END OF SPOILER…

Ken J says:

@jago

**STILL SPOILER**

Actually, I saw it on DVD and they do show downstairs, and that’s actually where they show it. It wasn’t a female’s downstairs, it was a closed up wound after something else have been removed… From what I know about the novel, Eli is written as an androngynous boy. In the movie, Eli “tests the waters” twice, the first time after she vomits and Oskar hugs her, she asks “Do you like me?” and then “Would you still like me if I wasn’t a girl?” Then later when she goes into his bedroom and he asks if they can be together. At first Eli doesn’t give an answer, and instead makes the remark “I’m not a girl” and only after that remark where Oskar replies if they can be together anyway, then all of a sudden Eli says yes, they are together and from then on, Eli is writing him love notes, being sweet, etc…

My friends actually disagreed with me as well, so we actually went back to that scene where he peeks in on her changing, and if you pause it on that frame, you see the opening is not vertical like if it was a female’s, it looks like rough cuts that didn’t quite heal all the way with the main cut running horizontally. Then I looked it up online to see if it has been discussed and I read in a lot of articles where people mention how in the novel Eli is an androngynous boy, or just a boy that pretends to be a girl, probably because it’s easier for a little girl to get boys to help them than the other way around. Not to mention, getting guys to help kill for her will be easier than getting girls to… It’s pretty much accepted that Eli’s gender is an actual issue and it’s not as simple as it seemed at first…

Ken J says:

***MORE SPOILERS***

Ah, I just looked it up again and read one of the articles more completely, Eli was written in the novel as a boy that was castrated by vampire nobelmen very very long ago. This article also confirms what I was saying that the only mentions of this in the film are the times Eli tries to tell Oskar that she isn’t a girl and that brief scene that shows scars of the castration, not of female genitals.

jago says:

@ken j

Spoiler alert

Trust me what i saw was vertical… i didn’t see it on dvd but i saw it several times in the theater (not in the USA but a friend of ours owned one and we would see movies for free and he would even rewind and pause if we had to go to the bathroom or something)… we tried not to pause it to not look like pedophiles… but since there was money involved in the argument we had to… i don’t exactly remember when i saw it… but i know it wasn’t this year when i did but i do remember winning the bet. Now i do know about the novel where he was castrated and all so i understand what your trying to say but the version that me and my cousins saw had a regular vertical line there.

Ken J says:

@jago

***JUST KNOW THERE WILL BE SPOILERS HAHA***

Then you guys saw a version that completely changes an important aspect of the novel and over simplifies it… Not sure which one is better… I think your more “socially acceptable” version would have been easier to swallow, but deviates too much from the source material. I’ve read that not only did they intend to keep that aspect, they actually filmed scenes that were flashbacks to Eli’s past that ELABORATES on what I was talking about, but they ended up cutting those scenes from the final cut and made the castration scar and Eli’s comments the only indications in the film.

That was also covered in an interview with the director…

jago says:

@ken j

SPOILER ALERT

Well either way its still creepy on my behalf whether it be an old lady or a man, but i will say this though… ever since seeing it i can’t close my eyes in a pool without thinking about that one scene if its happening behind or around me.

Ken J says:

Haha, that scene wasn’t scary, it was one of the “happy” scenes in my opinion, haha. I was more worried if she wouldn’t show up…

I liked that they did most of that practically instead of making it all CG like most people would do now-a-days. Like that horrible horrible movie Knowing, EVERYTHING was CG!

jago says:

@ken j

Oh i wasn’t saying that that scene was scary… just the thought of it happening around me in the same pool that i might just be swimming in or whatever one day…

I haven’t seen knowing… the trailers didn’t really interest me that much… it looked to much like “next” and i didn’t really care much for that either. Haven’t really seen many movies with cage in it that i liked…ill just mention the ones i can remember:

Family man
Con-Air
The Rock
Face Off
Gone in Sixty Seconds
Trapped in Paradise(mainly cause of Dana carvey & jon lovitz)
lord of war
ant bully

Now that i’m looking at it… seems like more then enough really since its cage anyways…lol.

Ken J says:

Yah, we rented Knowing the day after we rented Let the Right One In. I recommended LTROI, and my friend wanted to watch Knowing. Before that another friend wanted to watch Little Children, that sucked, and then I recommended Frequency, that everyone liked, then another friend wanted to watch Two Lovers, which sucked horribly, worse than Knowing… That’s it, I’m the only one that recommends good movies in my group, lol.

gottarhyme says:

Damn! Now I want to see it! But, I bet we only get the American remake. :(

Firewalker says:

Hi everybody,
spoiler alert
Reading the book the author refers to Eli as a she until the author reveals that Eli is a boy then in the rest of the book the author refers to ELi as a he.

I think This book is rich in methaphors and hidden meanings.

ELi is a methaphor that represents a type of social decline that seduced swedish society in the Mid eighties.

Eli in the book at many times offers salvation,redemption, friendship and yet will kill without conscience.

If the devil shows up as the devil will you run? But if the devil shows up as a little innocent girl will you be afraid?

I started to think. I know I do that to much. What was going on in the Mid-eighties that had sweden (for that matter all of europe) in a frenzy. Maybe cold war, nuclear holocaust?

I realized too that Eli was made a Vampire 200 years from the mid-eighties. I’m thinking birth of American democracy

so in my over imaginative mind I conclude that ELI is methaphor for American and british democracy that has infected swedish society which at first offers salvation and redemption, but later leads to decline and will kill without conscience.

Now I do not feel this way, I feel this the point the author is expressing.

The ELI-he/she is a methphor for the Ronald Reagan/Margret Thachter Alliance

Firewalker says:

Spoiler alert
Sorry I forgot to mention Eli offered protection from the neighborhood bullies.

neighborhood bullies–USSR?
Eli protector–USA/UK/NATO?
Oskar–Sweden?

Ken J says:

@firewalker

I think you are thinking too much into it, haha, but very interesting take anyhow, who knows, maybe you’re right.

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