Comments on: ‘Kick-Ass 2′: Why Controversial Comic Book Scene Was Changed for the Movie http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=kick-ass-2-why-controversial-comic-book-scene-was-changed-for-movie The #1 Independent Movie & TV News Website Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:04:25 +0000 hourly 1 By: Kragnorak http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-1141767 Tue, 17 Jun 2014 00:11:15 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-1141767 I understand the Devil’s Rejects example. It’s an uncomfortable subject. But just to provide a couple of counterpoints: The first Evil Dead had a “rape-by-evil-forest-scene”. It’s probably the only bit that is superior to the revamped scene in Evil Dead 2.

I have trouble imagining the “Girl With a Dragon Tattoo” movies with the sickening scenes removed. So while I didn’t watch and happily exclaim “This is excellent!” I did think it added to the story.

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By: Knoxyuk http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-1141675 Mon, 16 Jun 2014 21:35:30 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-1141675 100% agree with it not being shown. Rape is obviously such a downer and puts a bad vibe into its audience. I don’t think I have ever, EVER seen a rape scene and thought “This is excellent, it really adds to the story”.

A perfect example is… *SPOILER FOR DEVILS REJECTS!!!!!!!!*
Devils rejects. I loved the first movie for its obvious tongue in cheek horror story. Lots of gags yet an underline horror. While you knew the characters were ‘bad’ you also enjoyed watching them the same way as you did the joker, Motherf~cker or Hans Gruber (bad spelling) in Die Hard. When it came to the second film, everything was in place for the same type of movie..right up until the totally un-needed rape scene/graphic forced oral sex scene. I have never felt an atmosphere in a theater die so quickly in my life. All of the fun was taken out of the movie, you instantly hated the villains (Who, if you haven’t seen it, were painted in an anti-hero light before and after the scene and were the only likeable characters in the movie).
Now, that was a horror! Kick-ass movies were a comic, black comedy/hero movie. A GANG rape scene would have just totally destroyed the audience, the link between the audience and MF and just totally ruined the whole feel of the movie. I was so glad they left that sceen out and felt they handled it, on screen, excellently and tastefully while giving a small nod to the clued in audience;).

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By: dg101 http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-1141016 Sun, 15 Jun 2014 18:28:17 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-1141016 I don’t care about altering the rape scene, but the massacre being as pacified as it was did disappoint me. They killed 10 cops. It’s bad, but not wiping out an entire neighborhood bad. I mean, you don’t even have to SHOW it, just suggest that’s what’s about to happen and have the news report on it. It just doesn’t seem as bad the way they did it.

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By: Jess http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-1137851 Wed, 11 Jun 2014 02:13:04 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-1137851 I just seen the scene on TV… It is what brought me to this article. I felt that the attempted rape should’ve been omitted from the movie. There was no need for it, it was still disturbing, and the lack of erection which prevented the rape wasn’t funny at all.

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By: Jannie Parker http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-1086595 Sun, 13 Apr 2014 07:23:17 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-1086595 It was Wadlow’s fault that it fizzled out the way it did. Even if they had to make them break up, it was 100% bad of him to make her a cheater.

It MUST be retconned in the third movie.

They had in fact filmed a short scene of Dave and Katie in bed, but never used it in the film. They could have had Dave say “Katie couldn’t handle my lifestyle” and it would be understandable.

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By: Ben http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-936443 Fri, 22 Nov 2013 08:38:40 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-936443 I have not seen the movie but i have read the comic, i’ve been a comic book fan for more than 20 years now and i have noticed regular comics moving towards more violent and shocking story-lines. It’s high time the Comics Code Authority was re-intoduced, because we are now in a downward spiral where every comicbook author wants to be more ‘relevant’ than the previous by ‘exploring the boundaries of comic books’.

Also: Christopher Mintz-Plasse says “In the comic [ ...] they are not real people so you can put a rape in there and you’re not like feeling emotion towards it it’s just people on a piece of paper.” which is absolutely not true. As a reader, i DO identify with the main characters, it’s part of the great allure of comics being Spider-Man, being the Batman, …. And it is one of the main point of Kick-Ass, comicbookreader identifying with superheroes they read about in comic books.

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By: reno2200 http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-882283 Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:16:14 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-882283 Unfortunately, I believe that was a case of ‘real life writes the plot’ – Katie’s actress was busy with Nikita, I think. They had to find a way to get her character out of the way early. The Amazing Spider-Man slightly revived my faith in superhero romances in film (yes, really – it’s my opinion, OK?!) given how understanding and *actually pretty helpful* Gwen was, so I’m also a little disappointed that relationship fizzled out.

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By: Marc http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-881213 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 09:13:50 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-881213 Depends. Violence between combative characters is one thing (IE villains and the “superheroes” that take the accepted risks that come with fighting them). However violence against an unarmed person, particularly a women, is much worse.

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By: Rich http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-881204 Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:52:30 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-881204 I didn’t like the fact that Kick-Ass and Katie broke up. I mean, the entire first movie was about them and finding a way to fight crime at the same time. I believe they took a terrible approach and should have maybe hinted at them progressively falling apart, but at the end rekindle what they had in the first movie. It’s just like the transformer movies, how do you replace the girl he’s been with forever, with someone we hadn’t even seen before. (Although I do admit she was way hotter than Megan Fox.) Just my point of view, honestly kind of spoiled the movie for me in way, it just didn’t seem right…

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By: Juankiblog http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-861093 Sun, 08 Sep 2013 15:10:25 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-861093 “Why is gang-rape funny just because it failed?”

There’s something called BLACK HUMOR.

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By: anomoly http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-858338 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:35:51 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-858338 Wow, nicely said Kat

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By: Kragnorak http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-858276 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:14:36 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-858276 And he’s still wrong. When I read books, the events are often much more horrifying because my imagination can bring them to life to a higher degree as opposed to watching actors. Like, when I saw Jaws at age 4 and a kid on a raft got attacked, my parents were worried that I would be upset, but I kind of figured that the movie people put red food dye into the water. No biggie. A few years later I read the novel, and within the first few pages a female corpse washes up on the beach and the author graphically describes how a certain body part of hers was deflated. Which would McLovin suppose I found more disturbing?

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By: Kragnorak http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-858266 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:06:52 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-858266 ” It was handled not only in a non-disturbing way, it was handled in a funny and ludicrous way. You couldn’t watch that scene and find it disturbing on any level because of how stupid it was.”

That is exactly the problem I have with the change they made. Why is gang-rape funny just because it failed? Millar is being accused of writing the scene for shock value, but at least there was tried-and-true real motivation for the victim’s boyfriend to get revenge. Meanwhile the movie makes light of the issue which seems worse, as we can now apparently laugh at rapists just like we laugh at Freddy Krueger.

I did like the change of victim from Katie to Night Biatch. I just think they could have gotten even more mileage out of the situation. Consider, in Kill Bill a woman gets shot in the head which puts her into a coma and she loses her husband and believes that she has miscarried. This is psychologically traumatizing stuff and we get to enjoy her kicking serious tale in recompense. Therefore, if Night Biatch had gotten raped or dehumanized in some way then it would have been similarly empowering to show her destroying bad guys at the end of the movie. Instead she’s just one of the crowd at the end with no special motivation, symbolism, redemption, etc. She could have been a 3D character and instead stayed flat and was relegated to the background for the final act. I posit that yet another Hollywood female character got raped of her potential by the filmmakers.

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By: Kragnorak http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-1/#comment-858257 Thu, 05 Sep 2013 02:52:38 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-858257 Dr. Mindbender is insane. SPOILERS: Silk Spectre did not in any way enjoy being raped, and the rough s3x stopped being enjoyable as soon as she realized that ‘no’ meant something other than ‘no’ to her compatriot. But the writing is excellent, and over the years she realized a couple of things (with the power of denial?), such as a) the end result made the horrible event worthwhile to her and b) she was capable of forgiving her sick attacker to a certain point.

As horrific as rape is, is it really worse than ending a human being’s life violently? There are rape survivors. Are there decapitation survivors? I also felt that the drama of the supervillain attack was blunted by the cop-out. I didn’t mind that they cut away to the impotence joke, but the ominous music stops and they make it seem like Night Biatch was just going to get a spanking. Really, MF’s impotence should have enraged him MORE and put her in a much more scary situation where her short-lived respite would turn into greater physical punishment. Anything less and she gets off light compared to the Colonel, which makes zero dramatic sense since she is personally closer to the man that the MFer hates. She should have been incoherent and broken in that hospital bed.

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By: Kat http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-857108 Tue, 03 Sep 2013 22:35:34 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-857108 I’ve always liked the rawness of Kick-Ass. I’m not one for raunchy or lewd things, for I find them distasteful and unappealing, but I think it’s needed in Kick-Ass. I think that the reason the comic is so successful is because they take a situation of a superhero in real, modern times, and shy away from kryptonite and superpowers, adding a hard strike at reality. The rape scene in the second comic is very horrible, and I didn’t like it (even wanting to give up the comic for a while) but I still appreciate the harsh reality of things. In real life, the bad guys won’t walk around you, telling you their plan while you’re hovering over a lava pit or shark tank, planning your escape. Real bad guys are gruesome, remorseless, dark, twisted, and damn right evil. That harsh reality is what makes Kick-As; it invents it. So in the comics, I think the rape scene was required to establish the rawness of reality installed in Kick-Ass.

In the movies, however, I think a rape scene similar to the one in the comics would be the worst decision to possibly happen. First of all, the movie doesn’t carry the rawness and harsh, twisted, deep reality of the comic. I also like the funny, silly, badass twist the filmmakers gave it. Why do you think Dave ends up with Katie? Why do you think Katie’s mother really did die like her father said, and she wasn’t brainwashed by a middle-aged nerd creeper for a father? It has that element of fantasy in the movies, while still giving the impression of a pseudo-reality. A rape scene would ruin that. I like both the comics and the movies, but like the article said in one of it’s quotes, it’s different on paper than actually seeing real human beings act it out. It’s a different emotional attachment for both forms; and although the comics are raunchy, it’s not as real and explicit as seeing it in real life. That would be horrible.

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By: 8bit http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-856391 Tue, 03 Sep 2013 04:07:08 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-856391 I’m not sure how I feel about rape being in a movie but I know that scene didn’t work very well. In the scene prior to the “almost” rape scene, THE MF has his team cut off a dudes head. This did a pretty good job of establishing his team as evil. They were clearly willing to do whatever they wanted or had to do in order to win. Then in the next scene that is clearly building to a rape (I had never read the comic or heard of this scene and I was fully expecting a hinted at gang rape) instead they played it off with a joke (which worked imo) but when he turns to his henchmen and says, hurt her, bad, then lets her go that is where it failed. The point of raping her and letting her go I understand. But letting her go in anything short of a body cast after cutting off the firss guys head just doesn’t work. Well maybe it is the hospital scene that doesn’t actually work. She should have had more apparent damage than just some facial bandaids.

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By: Wild Bill http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-849332 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:57:20 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-849332 Besides, I think MFer did a good job without a rape scene to establish he’s lost it & is a bad, bad villain. How hard would it of been to say “that scene doesn’t fit the tone of our movie” and just had them shooting & blowing up suburbia looking for Night B & then Mother Russia could still do her thing & Night B gets beat up but gets away. If you look at the other movies that deal with rape, there’s almost always revenge on it and you KNOW u that was for her.

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By: Wild Bill http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-849321 Mon, 26 Aug 2013 12:44:14 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-849321 The movie itself, I though was good. I took kick ass as a “what if” movie series. I mean…Facebook…geez…lol so very typical of people playing the “superhero” while not thinking about our worrying about being tracked. *SPOILER* Just in case…….. But the movie fails to side step the non-rape scene, what they do is not shown (thank God, also having close friends raped, those kind of scenes…I really hate but understand if the scene fits the movie & tone. the tone they set, it didn’t belong at all.) but aside from the hospital scene… nothing is said about it at all, it’s basically forgotten, until Kick Ass kicks MFer & says that it’s FOR Night-B. But it’s left for the imagination what these villains did to her while Mother Russia is outside killing 10 cops like it was nothing and no one to stop them from doing whatever they wanted. That was the only problem I had with the movie. For a action/comedy, it was good.

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By: tony http://screenrant.com/kick-ass-2-movie-comic-book-rape-scene-controversy/comment-page-2/#comment-847659 Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:28:33 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=351384#comment-847659 It was a good movie and I think it was best this way and that they didn’t show the gang rape or else they would have gotten more bad reviews

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