Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited has been cancelled (I believe there are about three episodes left) and with the direction it's taken, I say: Good Riddance.

My daughter and I really enjoyed the first two seasons of Justice League (the "Unlimited" moniker was added for this season's makeover). The animation was cool, and who doesn't enjoy watching superheroes flying around and defeating the bad guy/girl/alien? It got even better during the second season as they began to delve a bit more into each character's life, fleshing them out a bit and letting us into their heads.

" /> Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited has been cancelled (I believe there are about three episodes left) and with the direction it's taken, I say: Good Riddance.

My daughter and I really enjoyed the first two seasons of Justice League (the "Unlimited" moniker was added for this season's makeover). The animation was cool, and who doesn't enjoy watching superheroes flying around and defeating the bad guy/girl/alien? It got even better during the second season as they began to delve a bit more into each character's life, fleshing them out a bit and letting us into their heads.

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Justice League: Soft Core Porn For Kids?

Published 8 years ago by , Updated February 9th, 2012 at 9:11 pm,

jlu Justice League: Soft Core Porn For Kids?Cartoon Network’s Justice League Unlimited has been cancelled (I believe there are about three episodes left) and with the direction it’s taken, I say: Good Riddance.

My daughter and I really enjoyed the first two seasons of Justice League (the “Unlimited” moniker was added for this season’s makeover). The animation was cool, and who doesn’t enjoy watching superheroes flying around and defeating the bad guy/girl/alien? It got even better during the second season as they began to delve a bit more into each character’s life, fleshing them out a bit and letting us into their heads.

But it was too good to last. Apparently not familiar with the phrase “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.” The original concept was changed big-time with the addition of every obscure DC hero under the sun to the league, putting the main characters (The Flash in particular, who is one of our faves) in the back seat while highlighting obscure characters instead. Sure, I love Jeffrey Combs and he was interesting as The Question, but I’ve been reading comics for a LOOOONG time and I didn’t recognize half the heroes they had floating around.


That was just one thing that bugged me. Another was the increasing prevalance of hints of sex and the increase of more revealing costumes on the super-babes along with more, shall we say, detailed animation. In particular is the female character whose name is (are you ready?) Vixen, and has the power to take on the properties of whatever animal will help her defeat a bad guy. She has an intense air of sexuality about her and a low cut outfit that would do J-Lo proud. Then there’s Hawkgirl, who at some point it was made obvious that she slept with some one-episode character.

vixen Justice League: Soft Core Porn For Kids?This week’s episode really took the cake however. It was called Grudge Match and it was basically about cage fights between female superheroes. I happened to watch it when my daughter wasn’t home because of the description. I promptly deleted it after viewing and without her having seen it.

Among the cute little items were a cell phone call between “Huntress” and “The Question” where she asks him “What are you wearing?”, of course as mentioned above the all-out no-holds-barred fight scenes which were the most violent I’ve ever seen on the show, and one other female character called Fire who “flames on” and becomes essentially naked except for little flames covering the naughty bits. The animators really seemed to go out of their way to render that particular character in a manner that emphasized the lack of clothing (see image above, and/or click here for the clip).

Now listen, I’m not some stuck in the mud prude… I know that female and male superheroes have spray-painted on costumes. What bugs me is the attention given here to “sexing-up” these female characters on a cartoon TV show that is rated TV-Y7. It just bugs me that on a show that kids watch the cleavages have gotten bigger and deeper, the butts more defined and the indirect sexual stuff and double entendres fly left and right.

It’s just really annoying that now I even have to pre-screen a TV show that features superheroes like Superman, Batman and The Flash before I watch it with my daughter.

Yeesh.

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  1. Wow… times have changed, haven’t they? What happened to the good ol’ days, when our parents were complaining about the way Elvis moved his hips? :lol:

    Brian

  2. Honestly, I was shocked to see they had new episodes airing this year. The one I caught that I beieved was the final episode explained the origin of the Batman Beyond character. Which was a really great ending. At least I thought…

    I always wanted to see the Ray show up on JLU. He was a cool character. The reluctant hero without all the whining and angst. It was also the first comic book I ever read that Joe Quesada drew.

  3. Another example on the latest episode, which I took specific note that it was rated TV-Y7-FV. Supergirl has a a crush on one of the characters and grabs him from behind, he asks her something about not using a force field and she replies:

    “Maybe I just wanted to cop a feel.”

    That’s TV-Y7… SEVEN!

    Un-frickin’-believable…

    Vic

  4. All I have to say is that I agree completele with you on these things but non the less times are changing. And with that I have to add cartoon animators in america are trying to compete with the ever growing audiences of anime whatchers in the united states. They are essentially trying to keep the audiences of around the age of 13 and up. they do this by makeing characters more busty and realistic to a point and adding story lines that are more adult and that of more modern day comics. this point of veiw is from my self one of americas youth

  5. Yeah, I realize that, but I watched another new one last night and deleted it without my daughter having watched it. It was more like a soap opera about the love interests between GL, Mira, Hawkgirl and Hawkman than anything else, complete with scenes of open-mouth kissing… unbelievable.

    What actually made me laugh was to see the rating when the show: TV-Y7.

    Vic

  6. Unbelievable some people’s logic is…I guess no one noticed Lynda Carter’ bust in the late 1970′s when TV was very prudish. My issues: -
    judgements about costumes on a hero one openly admits to NEVER reading in a comic book is simply not legitimate. They are not going to change Vixen’s name, as it PRE-EXISTED in the comics you never read, becuase it might offend some kid…if your kid asks what a Vixen is…simply don’t give her our adult VERY SLANGED and inaccurate version of a definition…give her the ACCURATE Webster’s Dictionary definition ….a female fox…which is quite obviously the intent in naming the character with animal-like abilities!! This is simple common sense here.
    Secondly, we have seen the big heroes like Batman and SUpes in animated format a zillion times over the years. JLU is a comic fan’s show…and we are happy that we get to see the charcaters we read about growing up finally get to be animated…a multitude of them for the first time.
    You basicallysound like you want to bring JLU back to the quality and content of the 70′s Superfriends cartoon…not going to happen. You’ve said it yourself and you are obviously an intelligent man, that’s how female heroies costumes are. Putting Wonder Woman in a librarian costume is simply not comic-accurate, and she, by a longshot, epitomizes the skimpiest costume of them all…
    By the JLU is not being cancelled due to lack of ratings or popularity…it is being cancelled becuase the main heroes licenses are tied up in new movies, etc. That’s why Joker vanished from the show if younoticed.
    So please; in a day and age where parents have no issue with their kids listening to the VERY wh&re-like Britnety Spears and the like effectively assisting them to go multi-platinum several times over; I suspect we have much more to worry about than animated Super-Heroes…

  7. By the way…it IS on at 10:30 at night…kids clearly are not the target audience anyways as most of these characters have not had a comic appearence since before your daughter was likely born…

  8. Zano,

    I hear where you’re coming from, but then if your argument is that it’s on at 10:30PM (BTW, I Tivo everything and never watch stuff when it’s originally broadcast) then why does it have a TV-Y7 rating? Obviously that’s out of whack with the content AND timeslot.

    As to your arguement concerning the name “Vixen”, never once did I comment on that as a word. My problems are with how the characters are drawn, and lately with the plots/situations which have been the basis for storylines.

    And finally in regards to your quote:

    “So please; in a day and age where parents have no issue with their kids listening to the VERY wh&re-like Britnety Spears and the like effectively assisting them to go multi-platinum several times over;”

    Yes, EXACTLY… that is the bloody problem, not an excuse to lower the bar because if that as an example.

    I don’t want “Super Friends” level cartoons, I just want this series to be where it was during the first two seasons, that’s not exactly asking for things to be thrown back to the seventies.

    Have kids, raise them for a few years, then come back and talk to me.

    Vic

  9. QUOTE-In particular is the female character whose name is (are you ready?) Vixen-END QUOTE

    then you say

    QUOTE-As to your arguement concerning the name “Vixen”, never once did I comment on that as a word. -END QUOTE

    I see nothing but a contradiction here.

    QUOTE-My problems are with how the characters are drawn, and lately with the plots/situations which have been the basis for storylines.-END QUOTE

    Again, this is very comic-like and definitely not something new…in fact, I remember one issue of DC COMIC PRESENTS that had a cover which features Superman and Wonder Woman making out!!! Another with Batman and Catwoman making out. If I had time I could probably get you these pics and many others (from 1970′s comics mind you)that are along the same lines.
    Basically, Superheroes are so far removed from reality that I don’t think kids take them all that seriously on the whole…and in the off-chance where they DO take them too seriously…I thinks it’s inargueable that the heroes’ powers are what kid’s emmulate (ie: the stories of kid’s jumping off roofs with towels around their necks, etc.) as opposed to their sexuality, which, quite frankly, is presented in much the same way as the old sit-com Three’s Company used to do-where the suggestive jargon used is simply missed by kids but adults caught. I loved that show as a kid and watched it religiously but it wasn’t until a few years ago as an adult when I revisited the show that I actually saw the PLETHORA of sexual tension and innuendo present that I simply missed as a child. JLU is the same thing in my opinon and therefore harmless to kids. The end moral is good triumphs over evil and anything in between in terms of plot should be overshadowed by that worthy fact. Huntress’ “What are you wearing?” is not going to be inferred as cyber/phone sex by kids…it’s clearly an adult moment that kids will not perceive the same way…I’d further prove that by saying if your daughter came out and said,”Daddy why is Huntress trying to have cybersex with Question?” you’d probably fall off the couch in shock that she even understood it.

    I know I deep-down hate things that corrupt our children like Spears,etc. but you and I apprently part company as illustrated by our ravenously differing opinions on SuperHeroes. JLU has not done anything to the HEro mythos that hasn’t been there in comics forever…Reeve passionately kissed Kidder in the Supes movies (which were PG)-I doubt kids left thetheater thinking about the kiss…I think they left the theater idolizing Superman for cruching evil…as it should be…
    As I said, at the end of the day Superheroes, and JLU, are about good destroying evil-a message MUCH NEEDED for our kids in todays world-so much so that wishing or being glad it’s cancelled is not something to be happy about…especially if you look at what Cartoon Netowkr DOES play during kid-intended timeslots.
    The last thing we need is a great show like JLU, for adults and kids alike, to be crushed into non-existence becuase of innuendo that a kid will likely totally and completely miss…

  10. Oops, busted me on the Vixen comment. I looked over my post quickly and missed that. :P

    Guess we’ll have to agree to disagree, as I just don’t see WHY that stuff needs to be in there. I guess the trend these days in cartoons as well as comic books is to make things more “real”. Heck, the recent Warren Ellis run of Iron Man was so incredibly boring that I was dying for some kind of superhero/supervillain uber-battle.

    Anyway, I still say JL was better before it became JLU. It was just as entertaining (actually, moreso) before all the romance plotline crap.

    I appreciate you posting your thoughts, BTW. :D

    Vic

  11. QUOTE-as I just don’t see WHY that stuff needs to be in there.-END QUOTE

    AGAIN,read above…becuase it’s as much part of the comics as the heroes’ costumes, that’s why…I thought I said that already!

    I’m sorry, you are entitled to your opinion but I publicly state that I find your label of “soft core porn” absolutely ludicrous and grossly incompetent. I’ve said it three times already…it’s a show based on COMICS which encompasses…you guessed it…comic history!! it should be faithful to it’s roots. So weather you want to admit it or not this stuff has always been there, contrary to your beliefs…again another repeat statement you didn’t hear the first time above.
    I’ve made a JPEG to illustrate that there is NOTHING in JLU AT ALL that you can call “soft porn” unless you label everything on the following link with the same description…which, of course would be absolutely ridiculous…take a look
    http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/793421/HeroRomanceThroughTheAges.jpg

    Sorry , my friend, but facts are facts and your article title above is absurd and grossly irresponsible becuase you have indeed officially been provided with a more-than-sufficient and factual explanation “WHY that stuff needs to be in there”, as you put it…I mean soft core porn? Man, admit it, you’re really stretching it there…

  12. And dude, you CONTINUALLY miss my point concerning the absurd TV-Y7 rating.

    As long as you keep the discussion civil I’m all for it, but, if you start throwing around terms like “grossly incompetant” this will quickly come to an end.

    As I’ve stated in other posts, everyone is free to start their own site.

    Vic

  13. QUOTE-As long as you keep the discussion civil I’m all for it-END QUOTE

    “Grossly incompetent” is certainly not intended as a description of you as a person as that would be just as irresponsible on my part…it is a description of your use of the term “soft core porn”. Insulting a stranger is not my intent at all as you could be the most competent guy on the planet for all I know…especially since you are obviously a VERY competent parent or you would never have never started such a discussion to begin with. So let me be clear-I was strictly referring to your grammar choice. A personal attack on another on a mesage board would be not only immature but wholly inappropriate for my tastes.

    QUOTE-And dude, you CONTINUALLY miss my point concerning the absurd TV-Y7 rating.-END QUOTE

    No, that as well, has been addressed ad nauseum above….Superman movies-rated PG; Comic Books Code approved comics for kids, etc. I see these items as no different than the rating on the of TV-Y7, in terms of your arguement. So this has been addressed, I think they do that becuase the same logic applies…that kids miss the stuff you are stressing over, which also was addressed in full above re: Huntress and Question, etc. So I didn’t miss your point about the rating, but to complain about that you’d have to complain about Superman II being PG and the entire Comics Code rating on all the comic books I’ve referenced in the JPEG plus many others. So I thought I made that clear above as well; that to agree with your thinking that JLU should NOT be TV-Y7 is the same thing as saying that Superman II should have been rated R becuase of the bed scene and all comics that contain busts, butts, and kissing should be off limits to children (which would be a GREAT majority of them dating back to the 50′s!…this is why I think there’s nothing wrong with that TV-Y7 rating. Just as I believe that kids thought as I did in Superman II that Lois and Superman were taking a nap together- I equally think that no kid is going to understand the cyber-sex innuendo between Huntress and Question..also discussed at lenghth above.
    Now I am beginning to repeat myself here so this is getting old…I think my points have more than been proven and I equally think ALL of your points have been addressed in my posts in great detail. The fact is that “soft-core porn” is a massive exaggeration and misuse of the term to describe JLU…it’s just outright absurd…”soft-core-porn” by definition, is nude, erotic poses without inclusion of sexual acts…if you think this is an accurate definition of JLU then we are watching two different shows apparently…if mere busts and butts constitute “soft-core porn” to you-then there’s a myraids of porn everwhere in our world…including the beach, swimsuit models etc. Maybe we should put up soft-core porn signs at our beaches warning parents that there’s girls in bikinis and tight bikini bottoms. Bottom line your description is totally a stretch and is ridiculous…that’s my point here…

  14. We’ll just have to disagree then. Comic books today are certainly not targetted to 7 year olds, but those in their mid-teens. And “soft core” does not necessarily require nudity. The way women are drawn in comics is obviously to rouse male teens (have you seen how Spider-Woman is depicted lately)? It’s actually pretty funny to me that the most comic-book-like representation of a female in a movie has been Mystique in the X-Men films, and that in live action it looks kind of ridiculous.

    What I’m talking about here is a matter of degree. Take your repeated example of comics going back to the 50′s. Sure, there were always skin-tight costumes, but compare how they were drawn then and how they’re drawn now. My point is why does the level of detail need to be increased more and more to the point where virtually nothing is left to the imagination? Does it help move the storyline forward in a comic book if the heroine’s outer labia are outlined/visible? What is that? To distract the bad guy?

    Look at Japanese manga… filled with nothing but doe-eyed female characters that look like they’re about 12 years old from the neck up with the bodies of strippers and always with the “peekaboo” shots under the skirts and such. I’m talking about that kind of crap infiltrating a medium that doesn’t need it.

    I mean, really… my point is you can show that GL and Vixen care about each other without showing them groping away at each other, you can be more subtle about how the characters are drawn.

    And again, what bugs me is that the show wasn’t like this during the first two seasons. Was it bad then? Horrible? Why was it able to tell cool stories without all this?

    Just because the envelope CAN be pushed doesn’t need to mean that it SHOULD.

    Vic

  15. QUOTE-And “soft core” does not necessarily require nudity-END QUOTE

    I’m sorry…another inaccuracy…U.S. Supreme Court’s defintion below…

    “While both softcore and hardcore feature extensive nudity with the intention of arousing the viewer, the key difference between softcore and hardcore is that softcore does not include the following hardcore elements: an erect penis, shots of actual penetration (vaginal, anal and/or oral), and shots of ejaculation.”

    NONE OF THIS EVER APPEARED ON JLU! Nuff said.

    QUOTE-my point is you can show that GL and Vixen care about each other without showing them groping away at each other-END QUOTE

    Ummm, when exactly did you see this “groping”? I’d have to see proof of this as I’ve seen every episode numerous times over and never remember GL, or anyone else for that matter, groping anybody. You make it sound like he felt her up or something…again an extreme exaggeration on your part in a desperate attempt to add credibility to the ridiculous soft-porn statement you made.

    QUOTE-My point is why does the level of detail need to be increased more and more to the point where virtually nothing is left to the imagination?-END QUOTE

    As long as they are clothed…there’s plenty of room for imagination. Otherwise men would be content looking at a woman in a bra as oppsoed to bare breasts.

    QUOTE-Does it help move the storyline forward in a comic book if the heroine’s outer labia are outlined/visible?-QUOTE

    Of course not, but I also NEVER noticed any labia outlines in JLU. I mean give me a break! And that being said as an adult (who knows what a labia even is), I doubt any kid is going to notice that in a million years. Therefore, this argument is applicable to the Huntress/Queston issue above.

    QUOTE-Look at Japanese manga…-END QUOTE

    I steadfast agree with you on this one, the manga is rubbish but this is not our debate…our debate is weather a JLU superhero show can be considered “soft-porn” by definition…which it clealry cannot. I know you know this now.

    Tight suits do not constitute ANY kind of porn…I mean your are arguing a ridiculous notion here.

    The fact is you are a concerned parent and I applaud you LOUDLY for that, we need more parents like you in the world…but outlines of busts, and butt cheeks, and even “supposed” labias IS NOT any type of porn…that’s a simple fact and again, you are having difficulty admitting that the description of JLU you provide above as being soft-core porn is laughable…it’s quite obviously a concerned parent’s incredible exaggeration…I think you are more than smart enough to know that now, the facts and definitions have all been put on the table for you as many reading this probably figured out already…

  16. Dude, I still disagree with you overall on the tone of the show, but at least we found a middle ground in regards to manga.

    I’ll let you have the last word since neither of us will change the other’s mind but your comments have been intelligent and civil. :P

    Best,

    Vic

  17. Vic,
    Well it won’t be much of a last word since it’ll only be rehash of what was said above. But if I had to summarize my complaint in a couple sentences they would be:

    The title “Justice League-Soft Porn For Kids” is, by definition, completely inaccurate due to the complete absence of nudity and sex acts and is not, in any way, an true description/representation of the subject matter of a great kid’s show. The show remained faithful to it’s comic roots in whole and depicts nothing suggestive that hasn’t graced comic pages since the Golden Age Of Comic Books in the early 1950s.

    And yes, I have very much enjoyed discussing this with you and I hope you didn;t take anything I said as I personal attack. I don’t usually respond to message boards but your intelligence and insight has made for engaging internet conversation.
    Thanks and all my best to you and your daughter.

  18. ok I know this is coming wow…a lot of months late..but Vic I don’t know how old you are and I do not have kids…but I am 18 year olds and recently looked at some cartoons I used to watch…and you maybe have watched…and I was SHOCKED! I found double entendres all through out it…but you know what? if the kids are young enough that they don’t know what it means and they probably won’t ask about it…you shouldn’t complain..the tv rating boards while not as all controlling as the MPAA it does keep shows in their range age wise….JLU is probably a border line Y7…but the problem with them changing the costumes would make the die hard fan boys want to write very nasty letters…and I’ve seen angry fan boys…its not pretty…but I digress…and yes thats probably a horrible use for hte word but oh well…anyway just remember…when you grew up…they had alot of double entendres…don’t know if you ever watched the peewee herman show but it was marketed to kids and well other day I heard the line ” you know what they say about guys with big feet right?”

    anyway just wanted to let my point be known :lol:

  19. Slash,

    Oh, are you referring to the Pee Wee Herman that was busted for masturbating in a porn movie theater?

    Great example. 8)

    Vic

  20. no porn

  21. i think this is bogus if parents dont want there childeren watching it then dont let them please put back on

    justice leaguefan

  22. Quoting ZANO:

    “And yes, I have very much enjoyed discussing this with you and I hope you didn;t take anything I said as I personal attack”

    Oh come on, that’s utter direct attack.

  23. Dude,

    Zano and I ended this on a civil note. Please do not step in to try to rile things up, even in my defense.

    Thanks,

    Vic

  24. Since I’m starting to get some really vile, personal-attack type comments on this post I’m disabling the comment feature.

    Vic

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