‘Justice League’ Villain Revealed? Why It Could Conflict with ‘Avengers 2′

Published 1 year ago by , Updated May 3rd, 2014 at 7:41 am,

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There are a lot of things riding on Warner Bros. and DC Comics’ upcoming Justice League movie – and a lot of pieces to that puzzle still need to be fit together in just the right way to work for both longtime fans of the property, and the wider audience of moviegoers who need proper introduction to the hall of justice.

Beyond questions like whether or not to reboot Batman, what characters should be included in the league and what story should be told, there is the big question of who these DC superheroes should battle. Well, today we may have an answer – one that many of you (assuming you are eagerly digesting these words) – probably already guessed, and have long wished for.

[Warning!!! Potential Justice League SPOILER Below!!!]

Latino Review is reporting that they have it from close sources that iconic DC Comics arch-villain Darkseid is who the Justice League will fight in the 2015 blockbuster film – which is still without a confirmed cast or director. Screenwriter Will  Beall (Gangster Squad) has been working on the Justice League script for some time (even before the release of Marvel’s The Avengers, supposedly), so it’ll be interesting to see how he incorporates so many superhero origins with arguably one of the most massive (and respected) villains in the DCU.

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For those who don’t know, Darkseid (one of the “New Gods”) has an almost Shakespearean background: born to the royal family of the hellish world of Apokolips, Darkseid attempted to slay his own older brother and seized the “Omega Force,” a power which transformed him into a stone-like man who mercilessly rules Apokolips and is one of the most powerful beings in the DCU. Darkseid is a schemer and conqueror on a cosmic scale, and throughout his 40-plus years in DC Comics, he has gone so far as to best Superman in combat (if only temporarily) and even seemingly killed Batman. Needless to say, when many fans think of a foe worthy enough to see Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and other DCU superheroes unite, Darkseid is at the top of the wish-list.

Of course, a lot of fans hold the villain in such high regard that they may not be satisfied with this rumor. By jumping into a superhero team-up film first, before launching each hero in solo films, DC/WB is already taking a risk: launching a shared universe without viewers already invested in each hero. Now they would in essence be doubling-down by also having to fit in a villain that many believe deserves a two-film buildup (at least!), and would best serve as the “big baddie” at the end of a trilogy.

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Indeed, Darkseid is one of the richer DC villains, and it would be a monumental misstep if the Justice League movie didn’t give him proper room to develop. It’s hard to imagine one film being able to introduce several protagonists, develop a relationship dynamic between them, and still have time to delve into a fascinating villain – but it’s not impossible. The Avengers balanced its heroes well enough, and Tom Hiddleston’s Loki certainly got time to develop and stand out; but this inclusion of Darkseid in Justice League brings up another problem – one directly related to the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Avengers 2 and Justice League both arrive in 2015, and both films are now strongly rumored to feature villains who may be too similar for the average viewer to distinguish. On the Marvel side, their “Phase Two” initiative is reportedly set to culminate in Avengers 2 with the team facing the cosmic threat of Thanos, the smiling purple villain revealed in the Avengers mid-credits scene. As comic fans will tell you, Thanos (a.k.a., Thanos of Titan) was actually created by writer-artist Jim Starlin, based on “the inspiration” of DC’s New Gods. After coming up with something initially different, Starlin was advised to convert Thanos into more of a Darkseid-esque character, resulting in the stocky, muscled purple conqueror we know today. You see where this bit of history now leads to a bigger issue…

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To the untrained moviegoer (read: non-comic geeks), Darkseid and Thanos could pretty much end up looking like the same bad guy; meaning these two major superhero team-up films could get accused of being “the same thing.” Will that stop millions upon millions of people (and billions of box office dollars) from getting funneled into the respective studios’ pockets? Certainly not. Will it spawn endless Internet chatter, arguments, “which one is better” debates, copycat accusations and the like? It’s already happening.

Finally, will spring of 2015 be filled with endless promotional featurettes and specials from both Marvel and DC, telling us why their villain (and film) is unique from the competition’s? We don’t have a crystal ball handy to confirm… but if rumors about each film’s villain turn out to be true… yes. Yes it will.

Do YOU want to see Darkseid in Justice League, or is introducing the villain now (while trying to introduce so many heroes at the same time) a waste of a good villain?

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Justice League will be in theaters in 2015.

Source: Latino Review

Artwork is property of DC Comics (Thanos Image property of Marvel Comics)

TAGS: justice league, the avengers 2

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  1. Darkseid is the logical choice for a Justice League movie, it isn’t ripping off Avengers by any means

    • It’s a logical choice for a movie trilogy but Kofi hinted at (and I tend to agree) that trying to fully develop (and defeat) him in the same movie they are attempting to form the JL feels VERY jumping the shark. Doing so will be doing all characters involved a great injustice.

      If true DC/WB are putting TOO much into one movie and it is going to blow up in their faces.

    • @ACW 007 – It’s not ripping off at all, which is a dumb thing to think anyway. On the cover they look a little similar, but ‘Thanos’ & ‘Darkseid’ are quite different and both bring great and unique storylines with them.

      • He did say it isn’t ripping off by any means

  2. Oh dear, 2015 will be such a big year for films!!

    • Haha, Ant-Mad…..is that name some poke at not liking them using Scott Lang instead of Pym or are you just crazy about Ant-Man?

  3. I don’t think this is the way to go at all. Then again, that may only be because it renders my ideas of what the shared DC movieverse should look like next to impossible.

    I guess we’ll see. I strongly believe they need to go in a very different direction to marvel and provide a legitimate alternative as opposed to following their lead on every sucessful decision.

  4. don’t you think that maybe JUST maybe this is what Warner is shooting for? I mean, Thanos has been presented as the main baddie on a very succesful film, that will continue on “phase 2″ of Marvel maybe Warner is not really sure about JL and are trying to take advantange of that so they have a mild or a modest success with their movie.

    I for one will watch JL, but I’m not really hopeful about it… besides TDK they haven’t had any good movie of their superheroes…

  5. I think the best choice (and by far my favorite DC villain) is the Lex Luthor/Brainiac combo.

    • That’s not big enough for a team up.

      • What are you talking about? Brainiac is one of JL biggest threats. But i personally think that almost all JL top villains need more than one movie to develop them. I think Android should be the villain.

      • I also disagree but I also don’t think it’s the appropriate choice for the fist movie. The Luthor/Brainiac story arc is one that would be great but only if weaved through say the first 2 movies.

    • I think if they used the Luthor / Brainiac combo alot of people would think they are more Superman villians & why does he need the JL to defeat them.

  6. It will have to be done like The Avengers is doing it.

    Sorry the DC pantheon is a lot more well known than the Marvel counter parts.

    Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, the Flash, Green Lantern to a degree have been in the publics eye since the early 80s. Not to mention the cartoons.

    It wasnt The Avengers we were watching in the 70′s it was the Justice League of America.

    They do not need to ‘establish’ characters before a team movie.

    As for Darkseid. If it is approached like The Avengers there should be no problem. Give him more ‘face’ time than Thanos and dont hide him. Have him be behind the public turning on the Heros.

    Heck have Supes have his butt handed to him tossing him back through a Boom.

    They cant hide him. He has enough influence to bring the IL together not to mention his own armies.

    Dont make it a secret. It doesnt need to be a secret.

    As for conflicting with The Avengers? pffffft If done right they both can profit. Its stuff like this that us fanbois have been waiting for.

  7. I say go big and make it a two part film. Really capture what an invasion would feel like and make him an antagonist worthy of a superhero team up.Something I felt The Avenger’s failed at. The sequel could be a Tower of Babel type movie.

  8. I’m on the fence. The JL needs an extremely powerful adversary with which to do battle otherwise having them come together is sort of overkill but at the same time Darkseid is like the ultimate villan in the DCU so idk. They have to be smart about it.

    • Agreed, I mean who’s left? the Anti-Monitor? OMAC? Anyway Darkseid would need a trilogy IMO.

      • Legion of doom!

        • That’s the idea I have always backed.

      • There’s Mandrakk and even Necron.

    • How about having someone POSE as a big threat worthy of such a team-up – maybe even as Darkseid himself? Then, by the end of the movie, the JL realize that combining their fighting power was a bit much. They kinda laugh it off and then … BAM … the real deal shows up as a cliffhanger and makes them all crap their pants. I have no idea which character would be suitable for the role of the imposter, though. Also, I think it would be too similar a plot device to Loki’s scheming and deception before and throughout The Avengers.

  9. While I see find it difficult to picture a new team of superheroes coming together to conquer one of the most distinguished supervillains of all-time, I’d definitely pay to see that!

  10. I know this would be EXTREMELY similar to the avengers but I would say have him cameo at the end of man of steel.

  11. I feel like there should be a build-up of villains for each hero and then they all turn to each other to get what they want. A Justice League vs. a Legion of Doom, so to speak. I think it’d be funny to see Joker pester Lex Luthor

  12. Hummm Darkseid created in 1971…. marvels Thanos was created in 1973 im sorry whos ripping of who again ????

    • Similar to how Batman’s Catwoman came before Spider-Man’s Black Cat

    • Totally agree, I like Marvel but they are in some ways are a ripoff of DC

      • And Batman’s basically a rip off of Zorro, Superman’s a rip off of the Gladiator pulp fiction character. MOST comics borrow, if not flat out copy, other characters/stories, so what’s your point?

      • And they are doing it so well, making DCU, look like the culprits!

    • People are you REALLY going to get into a DC vs Marvel pissing match about who ripped off whom?

      The truth is BOTH companies ripped each other off relentlessly and in some cases shamelessly over the years so you cannot point a finger without having that finger pointed right back at you.

      • He who is without unoriginality cast the first rant

      • Yeah exactly. People can’t just enjoy the comics and superheroes without the pissing match about ripoffs. The inspiration had to come from somewhere for these characters. We’re human. We get inspired by what other humans have done before us. I enjoy reading stories and seeing movies from both properties. I don’t dwell in the grudge match that is DC vs. Marvel.

  13. Darkseid is a must Superman alone can go toe to toe with most bad guys they need sombody that can go blow for blow with the team and if Granny goodness and her troops make it into the Film my head would just about explode lol

  14. I think that Darksied is the perfect villain for the Justice league. However I don’t think there should be a Justice league movie at ALL! Now here me out before you skip this posting. The avengers had unique and different movie to build up to the avengers. Yet the Justice league is breaking the mold and doing the Justice league first which in my opinion is better. This way people can see how cool wonder woman is and actually want to see her in a movie. Justice league has one major flaw though. It is the Avengers with better heroes! If they do the same thing then nobody will want to see it. I think that they should do the total opposite of avengers and do a SUICIDE SQUAD movie because it has never been done before. What I am trying to say is that avengers is a HERO movie the Suicide Squad is about captured villains being forced to do good by someone with their own agenda. For those of you who don’t know the suicide squad takes place within a prison and is a team of villains such as: Harley Quinn, El Diablo, Deadshot, Bane, Captain boomerang, Black Spider and many more. My point is people liked iron man because he was human and had human emotions. ALL of these characters listed provide different emotions and if done carefully they could be the best comic book movie yet. Another thing is you can kill off charcters and it won’t mess up the movie. For example if batman died in the Justice league movie how many people would like that? Ugh No one unless your the tin man. (and if you are the tin man then go get a heart!) But if you killed off black spider or el diablo you wouldn’t lose any fans because that is almost expected.

    • I skipped your post because trying to read something that isn’t parsed out into paragraphs is like listening to the micro machine guy.

  15. Film just wont work with the Batman character moviegoers have grown custom to

  16. SHOULDVE BEEN STARRO!!! guess it still can be if darkseid uses starro…

    • Definitely agree that starro should have been used first.

    • Yes…..use the story arc that brought the group together in the original comic.

    • My story arc would be:

      Movie 1 – Starro bringing together the individual members and forming the JL

      Movie 2 – Sees the forming of the Legion of Doom with the side story of Luthor/Brainiac.

      Movie 3 – Brings us Brainiac in all its terrifying glory.

      If they can manage that successfully THEN I say bring on Darkseid

  17. You don’t need a major villain for the first film. Have the film be about forming a team, and pull out Lex Luthor, Mark Strong’s Sinestro, and Deathstroke as minor villains to demonstrate how much easier it is for Batman or WW to take out Luthor, or Flash to take out Sinestro, or Superman to wipe the floor with Deathstroke. Then make the second film a disaster film, an Apokalypsian invasion led by Granny Goodness, end it on a bad note, also take the main three out of this one, they’re on a diplomatic mission to New Genesis. As cool as Batman, WW, and Superman are, everyone will know who they are and don’t need their development. Bring them back for the 3rd when Darkseid steps down to claim the Earth as Apokalypse II, then have the big three come back LOSE, and have the others rise up and win. And so you can carry the series knowing that all players are equal, throw in some nice second act development, and boom you have a Combined Universe.

  18. I’m a Marvel guy but excited to see what DC will do.. I think if they do it in a “Lord of the Rings” way it could work just fine.. It would be hard to cram in all the necessary elements to make it work and be good in 2 hours and 45 minutes.

    Bring on Darkseid!

    • So what happens in between parts 1 and 2? Is that when DC starts rolling out the solo movies or do they wait until the JL trilogy is finished?

      • I agree. Go for a Lord of the Rings-style trilogy. That would solve the build-up and characterization problems of the JLA movie and would be a movie worthy of bringing in a villain of Darkseid’s caliber.

        Shoot 3 movies at the same time and release them on a 6mos. interval. Afterwards, crankout some solo films for two years then start a brand new JLA trilogy. Rinse and repeat.

        The problem i see here is that if this is indeed WB’s strategy and they are adamant in releasing Justice League on summer 2015, they should be right in the thick of development right now (ie. they should be writing storyboards by now and we would be hearing about casting calls from celebriy sources). Instead, they still dont even have a director for the movie and a bare bones script farmed to an unknown screenwriter. Does not exactly inspire confidence.

  19. DC should go big. Otherwise, it’s a wasted opportunity. The main villain doesn’t need to be Darkseid, but it would have to be an equally imposing force – one that would require the efforts of the entire team.

    I hope DC avoids the Avengers’ approach: the super team goes up against a nondescript swarm led by a relatively weak adversary. And I hope the DC movie avoids following the Avengers’ formula for its climax: deus ex machina.

  20. Marvel has the advantage only in that they’ve already introduced us to Thanos, albeit ever so briefly. If they (DC) jump into a full scale JL-movie, it’s going to take a lot of time to give a back stories on the heroes that haven’t made it to the big or small screens.

    • They didnt introduce thanos… they showed a scene that never once stated who he was. I kid you not people came out of the avengers asking me if its hellboy. That seen is forgotten amongst average moviegoers

      • I do agree that very few people actually knew it was Thanos (only the hardcore fans), but I can’t agree that people forgot about it… at least, not most of ‘em.
        Those who saw the scene (of there are few seeing as most people run out of the theater the very moment they start to see words on the screen ;)) and didn’t know who it was, asked around… in your case, people asked you if it was Hellboy to which I’m sure you corrected them. Others hit the net and found the answer.

        If you take a look at Goggle “Trends” you’ll see that there was a huge increase in the interest/google searches regarding Thanos in The Avengers:
        http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=thanos

        • I did indeed correct them

      • An introduction often isn’t formal in that you immediately get to know an individuals name. When those moments happen you either A) ask someone who knows or B) Wait for a second chance meeting to find out for yourself. Either way an introduction does take place. No different from when Nick Fury was “Introduced” in Iron-Man.

      • There’s no way you can make me believe that. Really? People thought a purple alien thought it was a red demon? Even if they had ZERO comics knowledge, how could they think it was Hellboy?

        I’m not actually casting aspersions on your assertion. I just can’t figure out how it’s possible.

        • A few people I talked too also thought it was Hellboy at first (to be honest, Thanos did kinda look a little like Hellboy from a certain angle), but then once I told them it was Thanos, they all wanted to know more about him.
          He’s a pretty cool character once you know a bit about him – definitely not forgettable as Trey suggests.

          • *A few people I talked to…

          • @The Avengers – Right, hell they’re not going to know who ‘Darkseid’ is either when they first see him. Yeah we know of course, but many of the general audience won’t know who he is. They may not know his history, but a lot of the general audience knows who ‘Thanos’ is now.

        • I dont know how its possible either… i guess people just assumed they could intertwine any other comic books.

      • @Trey – I don’t think so homie,it’s true some people did’nt know who he was at the time, but they know now.

  21. This is very risky. I understand that Warner is trying to leapfrog ahead of Marvel by not introducing their characters first, which initself can extremely dicey. It could work by allowing the viewer to jump directly into the action without any exposition necessary.

  22. 2015 is going to be awesome! All these super-hero films and I’ll be getting my drivers license so I can actually see them

  23. I like it, make it a 2 or even 3 part epic slowly adding other heroes of thr group start with superman and batman and expand in a lotr like way. Until the finale in which darksied and his army or group of competent solid fighters clash.

  24. You need a mega-villain like Darkseid to face the league. Look at the roster, superman: A superhuman, and the green lantern who can create any type of weapon with his ring.

  25. No matter what DC does for a villain they will be accused of ‘ripping off’ Marvel so I say go with whatever they feel is the best. If they go the route of Brainiac / Luthor which I’m sure would include a robot army of some sort & DC will be accused of ripping off the 1st Avengers. They go with Darkseid as the villain they are accused of using a villain similar to Thanos.

    I’ve posted before – I love both DC & Marvel so all I care about are plenty of movies from both. Can care less about the comparisons or who is copying who. When it comes down to it both companies pretty much run the same plots with the same types of characters.

    Unless DC did a Justice League vs. Legion of Doom I don’t see any way the copying & comparisons will not occur for years to come. All I hope for is a great movie.

    My two cents – Darkseid has been the #1 villain in terms of power in DC for YEARS! More so than what Thanos is to the Marvel universe. Knowing comics as I do, I don’t feel DC is copying anything and are simply using one of their top villains of all time. Had JL been green-lit a few years earlier as planned it probably would have been Darkseid so in that case Marvel would be copying from that point of view.

    Also – look at the new 52 – who is the villain for the new JL – Darkseid.

  26. Go big or go home!

    I’ve always wanted Darkseid to be the villain in a JL movie and a while back I called it that if WB ever did make a JL movie, it would probably be very similar to the New52 origin story – guess only time will tell if that’s the case, but I’d be ecstatic if Darkseid turned out to be the villain.

    There’s no denying that Thanos and Darkseid are very similar (mainly because Thanos’ appearance is in fact a rip off of Darkseid ;)), but IMO, if handled/written correctly, both villains will come off very different from one another on screen.

    If the general movie goer won’t be able to draw a distinction after watching both movies, then I’ve lost all hope for humanity…

  27. The master of anti-life is the perfect villain for moviegoers and by far my favorite character in DC. He powerful enough to take down superman, has at one point wanted to bed wonder woman and even “killed” batman. He a master stratigst and has an army at his disposal, not to mention Granny Goodness, the female furies and kalback. So its go big or go home for dc at this poiy

  28. I agree with Cody up there, I was also going to say Starr-o! I think it would be a great way to introduce the characters and also use it as a way to say “Hey this happens all the time, seeing cosmic beings is nothing new for us”. Which I think leaves the door wide open for lots more!

  29. I reposted my posting because that douche bag said he skipped my first post so I am putting it in paragraphs ya happy?!

    I think that Darksied is the perfect villain for the Justice league. However I don’t think there should be a Justice league movie at ALL! Now here me out before you skip this posting. The avengers had unique and different movie to build up to the avengers.
    Yet the Justice league is breaking the mold and doing the Justice league first which in my opinion is better. This way people can see how cool wonder woman is and actually want to see her in a movie. Justice league has one major flaw though. It is the Avengers with better heroes! If they do the same thing then nobody will want to see it.
    I think that they should do the total opposite of avengers and do a SUICIDE SQUAD movie because it has never been done before. What I am trying to say is that avengers is a HERO movie the Suicide Squad is about captured villains being forced to do good by someone with their own agenda. For those of you who don’t know the suicide squad takes place within a prison and is a team of villains such as: Harley Quinn, El Diablo, Deadshot, Bane, Captain boomerang, Black Spider and many more.
    My point is people liked iron man because he was human and had human emotions. ALL of these characters listed provide different emotions and if done carefully they could be the best comic book movie yet. Another thing is you can kill off charcters and it won’t mess up the movie.
    For example if batman died in the Justice league movie how many people would like that? Ugh No one unless your the tin man. (and if you are the tin man then go get a heart!) But if you killed off black spider or el diablo you wouldn’t lose any fans because that is almost expected.

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