Joss Whedon Talks Female Superheroes; Expects RDJ in ‘The Avengers 2′

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The highly-disproportionate ratio of superhero versus superheroine movies has left many a comic book fan – male and female – grumbling, if only because it would be nice to see more diversity in the genre. Problem is, that relevant discussion has a (bad) habit of quickly devolving into an argument of extremes – in which one side dubs the other misogynists, only for the latter to fire back with claims of pseudo-feminism and how the opposition wants all superhero movies to have female leads (because that’s a realistic fear, right?).

It’s no wonder that this is a touchy subject to address, when you consider the traditional objectification - without equal representation – of the women featured in comic books; not to mention, the previous lackluster solo movie vehicles released for characters like Supergirl, Elektra and Catwoman. (And do we even need to bring up the struggle to get either a decent Wonder Woman TV show or film made?)

Avengers writer-director Joss Whedon is heralded for his ability to devise compelling female characters – which includes on his cult TV shows like Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Firefly – and he touched on the superheroine issue during a recent interview with The Daily Beast:

“Toymakers will tell you they won’t sell enough, and movie people will point to the two terrible superheroine movies that were made and say, You see? It can’t be done. It’s stupid, and I’m hoping The Hunger Games will lead to a paradigm shift. It’s frustrating to me that I don’t see anybody developing one of these movies. It actually pisses me off. My daughter watched The Avengers and was like, “My favorite characters were the Black Widow and Maria Hill,” and I thought, Yeah, of course they were. I read a beautiful thing Junot Diaz wrote: “If you want to make a human being into a monster, deny them, at the cultural level, any reflection of themselves.”

Presumably, Whedon is referencing the Supergirl and Elektra movies (since films like Catwoman and Barb Wire technically do not feature superheroine leads). That aside, Whedon has proven willing to put his money where his mouth is, between his previous attempt to develop a Wonder Woman movie and fleshing out the Black Widow character (Scarlett Johansson) – introduced in Iron Man 2 – so much that she become a fan-favorite team member in The Avengers.

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Similarly, Whedon’s upcoming Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series will introduce a few new female characters – including (gasp!) some non-white ones – and The Avengers 2 looks to feature at least one new super-powered lady addition in the form of Scarlet Witch. The hope, of course, is that we start to get more variety in the personalities and attributes of these comic book movie supeheroines, much like the case for the men (ranging from the snarky Tony Stark to the golden-boy Steve Rogers).

Speaking of Iron Man, Whedon also offered assurances that Robert Downey Jr. will – without a doubt – be reprising his role in Avengers 2:

“He is Iron Man. He is Iron Man in the way that Sean Connery was James Bond. I have no intention of making Avengers 2 without him, nor do I think I’ll be called upon to do that. I don’t think it’s in my interest, Marvel’s interest, or his interest, and I think everything will be fine. But I know that this is Hollywood and you roll with things. You have to be ready for the unexpected. But I loved working with Robert, and everybody knows he embodied that role in a way no one else can. The day he was cast, I went up to [Marvel Studios president] Kevin Feige and said, ‘You brilliant son of a bitch.’”

The conclusion to Iron Man 3 – in combination with the reports about strenuous cast negotiations for Avengers 2 – may have raised doubts about future Iron Man installments, but there’s never been any legitimate reason to believe that RDJ might not appear in the Avengers sequel. (The actor previously assured us as much will be true.) Nevertheless, it’s encouraging to hear something like that from the creative architect on Marvel Studio’s Phase 2.

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Marvel has publicly announced that it is willing to recast Tony Stark down the line (maybe even for Iron Man 4). However, it’s best to wait and see what the state of things are in the Marvel Cinematic Universe – like which characters are still living after the “awful” events that Whedon has promised in Avengers 2 - by the end of Phase 2, before speculating too much about future developments (be it recasting or Marvel releasing more superheroine movies).


Iron Man 3 is now playing in theaters, Thor: The Dark World arrives in theaters on November 8th, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4th, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1st, 2014, and The Avengers 2 on May 1st, 2015.

Phase 3 begins when Ant-Man opens in theaters on November 6, 2015, and films like Doctor Strange, Black Panther and Inhumans could be arriving thereafter.

Source: The Daily Beast

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  1. avengers of SHIELD??

    • Yikes, my bad, thanks for catching that.

      It’s been corrected.

  2. That’s hardly a confirmation. I really hope for Marvel’s sake that RDJ does indeed return, I don’t want this whole thing to fall apart right before it gets incredible.

    • Yep cause he’s been the main draw for a lot of viewers and the other characters haven’t come across as big personalities and likable as much as RDJ has. The actors are talented but they don’t stand out next to him.

      • Mark Ruffalo is a far better actor than RDJ but RDJ has more star power. RDJ has the same acting in every movie. He basically plays himself. He’s Tony Stark in real life (personality and wealth wise) and thats why he is perfect for the role.

        • Completely untrue. Ever seen Tropic Thunder

          • +1

          • A better example would be “Chaplin”

            • Yes! Far better emailed is “Chaplin”

        • charlie bartlett

    • Disney has to make back all that money they just wasted on The Lone Ranger.

    • In Sandy’s defense, the article says Whedon “promises” not “comfirms” RDJ, however the quote is hardly a promise either. It’s just sort of what he believes to be the case at the moment.

  3. Well that’s good news coming from Joss Whedon on RDJ reprising his role as Stark/iron man in the avengers 2.

    • He still left it open for not happening… no hard confirmation exists, just wishful wordings and positive hopefulness

  4. He is ironman in the way sean connary is bond…. so he can be replaced?

    • Of course he can and will be eventually

  5. If Joss brings in Wasp and/or Ms. Marvel in the next Avengers, I will be very VERY happy. Especially if Scarlet Witch is indeed going to be featured as well.
    And yes… his answer regarding RDJ is pretty much his usual ‘dodging the bullet in a smart way’ kind of thing, so I don’t think it’s confirming anything as of yet

  6. This is one of the few things I appreciate Joss for being able to do.

    A female friend of mine did a test show for an internet thing based around a writing hobby we’ve been involved in for over a decade and she complained that “males who write as female characters tend to make them lesbians or whores” and that’s what the problem is with male writers, no matter what genre.

    It’s almost like my fellow man is afraid of writing strong female characters for whatever reason and that makes potentially great female comic book characters either flop or languish in development hell when the idea of a movie comes along.

    One huge example of what Joss is saying is the controversy over Starfire in The New 52.

    I’m still waiting for a decent Tank Girl movie because as much as Lori Petty nailed the character, the script and overall plot were terrible and she’s a character who is a total badass but also comfortable with who she is and her serious attitude mixed with her goofy side should be a pleasure to watch on screen. It’s just unfortunate that a lot of screenwriters won’t seem competent enough to do it.

    • David o russel writes very real complex female characters. Yes tiffany in silver linings playbook was a whore but there was a logical reason behind it. And melissa leo and amy adams were extremely well written in the fighter. Tho only one example i disagree with your statement completely. Sure watch a michael bay film and the films are whores, or most action film. But many great films have well written female characters

      • See, that’s what I mean. Some writers get it and those characters in The Fighter seemed like real people (although they were based on real people anyway).

        Haven’t seen Silver Linings Playbook (and honestly, judging by the trailers I saw last year, it doesn’t look like something I’d particularly find enjoyable) but I’ve seen more movies, books, TV shows, comic books and such that have female characters that are either overly-sexualized or completely one-dimensional than those movies that haven’t and feature well written, three dimensional characters.

        Then again, like I mentioned in my other comment, strong female characters are the only things I enjoy in Whedon’s work while others on here seem to love everything he does.

        • It is his best skill since i dont enjoy his humor. There are many directors that could use strong females to improve their films, as u stated

        • @Dazz

          And here is why one wishes (better to wonder) Warner Bros. who owns the “Wonder Woman” screenplay (or notes) written by Joss Whedon would go ahead and produce the damn thing.

          But, then, they are (after all) Warner Bros.

          • I dont want a whedon wonderwomen. May be a good women character but filled witg corny humor

          • Joss Whedon Wonder Woman would be a bad idea. i like him and all but DC/WB are going with a gritty/realisitic look to their universe. Joss Whedon will bring too much humour to the character it might hurt the WB/DC universe he works better with Marvel characters.

            • If you can leave your per-conceived notions about Joss at the door, may I suggest watching Serenity. All his females characters, as mentioned above, are strong and complex. While yes, one is an actual whore, (companion as its called) all have their sexuality as part of their character, it doesn’t define their character.

              But my point is, Whedon could definately do Wonder Woman justice. He can do serious. Serenity did have Whedons trade mark humor through it, but it still had dark and serious moments. A woman gets raped and butchered. Happens off camera, but you see the other characters reactions as they watch. And the fight scene with Summer Glau. Best I’ve ever seen.

              Whedon has proved he can do comic book movies the general audience responds too, and its pretty much agreed his greatest strength,( or only strength right Dazz :) ) is writing strong female characters. Wonder Women is perfect for Whedon.

              • What’s all this talk about whores and please, where are they?

                • They went to the kitchen to get me a snack…they’ll be right back (I’ll just straighten the pillows in the meantime….).

    • yes but you are wrong that only male writers write only lesbian heroes..
      there is a huge amount of books out there which are written by women for women where the main characters are either bisexual females or lesbian females,and of course lots of sex,vampirism,wereisms and other supernatural elements are the majority of the stories..women who read these books also read comicbooks and are fans of the Twilight series as well as other related films such as the underworld series..
      but in the end its all about who is going to read these books especiallly comic books..which are read by the male majority….so duh

  7. RDJ for Avengers 2 & 3. Recast for Iron Man 4 and forward.

  8. Finally some good news for iron main avengers 2

  9. As far as women avengers go, introduce Ms Marvel, Spider Woman, and Wasp.

    Introduce Ms Marvel and Spider Woman in the SHIELD TV show first as agents, or heros found and recruited by SHIELD, and introduce wasp either through the Ant Man movie, or through SHIELD TV show.

    And RDJ being replaced? I would hate to be the guy replacing him… Who could fill those shoes?

    Has Screenrant made a list of the “Top Ten Iron Man Replacements”, yet?

    • Dominic monaghan would nail it. He did play Starks Father in The First Avenger

      • dominic cooper

        • Thank youfor that correction. duh. don’t know where Monaghan came from. should have fact checked my apologies

  10. “The day he was cast, I went up to [Marvel Studios president] Kevin Feige and said, ‘You brilliant son of a b****.’”

    Wasnt Favreau the one who cast RDJ?

    • I believe so

    • I would be willing to be Feige had a little say so in who Marvel was going to pay!!

  11. There is a point to be made about women in films vs. real life.

    More women in real life graduate from college than men, are the principal breadwinner, primary procurer of retail goods, not to mention they’re more than 50% of the population.

    The point is…the film industry (re: Hollywood studios) that produce superhero comic-to-film movies are dominated and ruled by white males incapable of getting their brain around a strong female character who is adepth at kicking ass and breast-feeding.

    (In my humble opinion, writing for women is something I have done well. Click the link which is my name and visit my novels at

    So, are men capable of developing artistically yet realistically female characters? Absolutely. Do men in other media as well as in the film industry ever accomplish this feat? Undoubtedly.

    Will those white guys at Warner Bros. ever produce a feature-length motion picture of Wonder Woman? Well, they have what Joss Whedon left them but…probably not.

    • Whats the reason for saying white men?
      Is it to hard to just say men?

      • he is speaking the truth the industry are run by white men who wont even produce Black Superhero movie thats why their is no mention or support for a Black Panther solo movie.

        • Blade.

          • Seriously. Blade was responsible for reigniting interest in comic book movies. It preceded both X-Men and Spider-man. And Sam Jackson’s Nick Fury is the head of SHIELD and responsible for assembling the Avengers.

            • yeah true about Blade but yet it was a r-rated character or a certian audience to be honest. also u cant use Nick Fury as a superhero character. Nick Fury is just their he dont have a solo movie like Iron Man, Thor, etc. Marvel had a chance to do a Black Panther movie and they sideline him for GOTG.

          • first of ok yeah blade was released and all but its not a superhero like cap or iron man. also it was r-rated movie not a pg-13 movie for the wider audience.

            • Spawn.

          • Where are the non-white non-black characters? Or are the rest of us suppose to suffice with shawarma references and bastardised Mandarins (I liked Mandarin but just making a point)?

        • There is fair support for black characters it seems in comparison to other minorities/females. The Blade trilogy blew everything up to begin with. You got War Machine and Nick Fury and I’m sure they’ve been meaning to get Black Panther into the pipeline for a while now (major Phase 3 possibility).

        • Maybe they dont produce black superhero movies causs there arent many well known ones blame that on comic writers

    • Can you write a “realistic” normal human female character who’s adept at kicking ass?

      No, because female physiology means that for any given height and non-obese build a man is heavier and much stronger. Nor does speed compensate because women are also slower.

      In melee fighting there are a number of factors that count, strength, speed, skill, experience and the will to win among them. Experience is probably the most important but to get that you need to survive long enough, and that’s where the other factors come in.

      You can create a “realistic” kick ass female fighter by giving her supernatural abilities, I’ve done it myself with a half vampire, but a normal woman versus a normal man? Give her a gun.

      To be honest I find the fascination with “strong” female characters to be quite amusing, because when they talk about “strong” women people seem to think of a woman acting as a man would in a particular set of circumstances. That’s actually quite misogynistic, because it’s saying that the male way of dealing with situations is the only correct one. A more “feminine” approach (indirect, subversive, even seductive) might be less suited to an action movie but it would be much more in line with how women have actually acted to further their interests throughout history. A female character whose modus operandi is to distract an enemy before knifing them in the back or poisoning their drink? Not “strong” perhaps, but certainly very sensible.

      Obviously in comicland there are women like Wonder Woman, Power Girl, Supergirl, Captain Marvel, Storm, Phoenix and the like who are supernaturally powered and can go toe to toe with male characters. However in what way does writing for them actually differ from a male character in the same circumstances? Perhaps she might be a bit more introspective after punching the villain in the face, but nuances like that are generally missed in comic book movies anyway. For most of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer series Buffy’s role could have been played by a teenage boy. When Whedon tried to make her more “female” she ended up with a bunch of failed romances, including her infamous infatuation with the undead, and a sister appearing out of nowhere. Whedon writes good action hero roles, but as to whether he could actually write a “female” role? I’m still undecided about that.

      Let’s not even mention the excretable proposed Wonder Woman television series, where Wonder Woman complains about her non-existent love life to her “gal pals”. “Love life,” “gal pals” and “Wonder Woman” do not even belong in the same sentence, paragraph, or book.

      • Gina Carano can beat the s*** out of most average men because she is a trained fighter and most men are not. She may be the exception to the rule, but she’s an actual person and not a super hero.

        • i was going to suggest he watch haywire and reassess his thinking.

      • +1

  12. Vince Vaughn for Iron Man RDJ replacement!

    • Vince Vaughn is a massive individual.

      • Dominic monaghan would nail it. Starks father in first avenger. Vince. Please. He hasntbeen good since Clay Pigeons where I do admit he was brilliant.If you havent seen this movie. Rent it immediately

        • that’s Dominic Cooper my apologies. duh.


  13. Joss obviously has some inside information on RDJ.

    They are going to make an Iron Man 4 and probably a few more, there is to much money to be made, not to make them. The question isn’t about money I don’t think, but more about does RDJ want to keep playing the character. I think that’s the real question. He might be a little burned out at this point.

    By RDJ’s own admission he said he hasn’t played the part better than he did in Iron Man 1.

    I think RDJ will be back for at least Avengers 2, because it won’t be as much work as a stand alone Iron Man movie, but after that I’m not so sure if he’ll be back.

    As for female superheroes, I’m all for them, if they are done right. No Catwoman fiasco, just solid story telling with a solid character and good actress. I would love to see a Wonder Woman movie based off of DC’s animated origin story, that was fantastic.

    • “I would love to see a Wonder Woman movie based off of DC’s animated origin story, that was fantastic.” Couldn’t agree more. It was a great film.

      As for RDJ, with a guaranteed paycheck PLUS 5% of BO results for even the minimalist of time as Tony/IM, I think he’d do it til the day he dies.

      I would.

      • @ Leathercheerio

        I agree with you, so would I, but some times these actors get tired of playing the same role over and over again, plus how much money does he really need? I want to see him play the part forever, but I’m not sure he does.

  14. I think i would like to see more female superheroines not just in the Avengers 2 but in the entire marvel universe though i don’t care for the HUnger Games that much i hope that it does help to begin a new era for female action heroes. I look forward to seeing Scarlet Witch that sounds interesting, i think that Ms. Marvel, She-Hulk, Wasp, and Jessica Jones would all be cool to see on the big screen. Now as for Iron Man i am thrilled to finally hear some good news for Robert Downey Jr’s return as the character for Avengers 2 but i’ve said this before and i still hope they do this, i hope that they kill Tony Stark off in the Avengers two that way they won’t have to recast it at all and the studio will end up taking less heat from fans, i doubt they will because Iron Man really is their biggest thing at the moment but i feel if they kill him off they can focus on new characters that people want to see like Dare Devil Luke Cage maybe even do some new Blade movies. Just my opinion though.

  15. The word “promises” in the header to this article is completely misleading.

    “…I have no intention of making Avengers 2 without him, nor do I ‘THINK’ I’ll be called upon to do that….”

    That is in no way a “promise.”

    If Whedon loves RDJ so much and ‘expects’ to work with him again, that’s fine. He has obviously chosen sides which means he also expects the other “Avengers” cast members to get more pay for their work.

    Ultimately it comes down to Kevin Feige and he also has made NO “promises” regarding RDJ:

    “Marvel Willing to Replace Robert Downey Jr….”

  16. These “awful” events that is supposed to happen in Avengers 2.. I just hope they don’t kill of any character this soon. I’m sure they might discuss killing off Hawkeye. They down right shouldn’t do that. As far as female characters they should introduce. Wasp, She-Hulk, Ms. Marvel, and maybe smaller Avenger charachters like Tigra.

  17. Introduce Mockingbird :)

  18. @Trey Are you serious? Lol there’s never a logical reason behind being a whore. To some girls it’s just a natural talent.

    • There was logical reasons, she lost her husband and felt lonely so she slept around to try to and forget. Thats logical

      • Thats a reason to be a whore, but its not a valid reason. Never a valid reason.

  19. Notice that it says Downey will return as Tony Stark, not as iron man.

    They will probably use a remote controlled iron man suit so as Downey won’t be able to use his old contract that gives him a percentage of Avengers 2 ticket sales.

  20. That’s a pretty poor comparison to Sean Connery as James Bond, considering I feel Daniel Craig has evolved what he started and has put it into almost near perfection, much like the other Bonds and especially Timothy Dalton.

    It isn’t like that at all; you replace Downey in a hardcore continuity franchise, people will be infuriated. I won’t because I refuse to fund Marvel Studios any further now, but people who stick around will.

    Don’t pull this James Bond crap; the MCU doesn’t come close to how EON handles Bond, you should know better than to act like it has become that big of a deal after knowing how people reacted to IM3 and the divided audience you refuse to acknowledge respectfully for The Avengers. You don’t understand respect to these characters because you aren’t in power to show respect to them.

    • +100

      • Thank you for agreeing.

        This will remain my permanent username. Bond is not some basic example for directors to go by and I will forever be there to tell people why. You can’t just simply pull a James Bond; that’s not how we got where we are with it today.

        So, thank you Joss Whedon for a comment such as that. It only fuels my distaste for Marvel Studios :)

        • ACW, rock on.

          Everything you said.

          I’m about as die hard an EON Bond fan one can get. And I know exactly what your’re saying.

          Joss Whedon thinks he can talk like that? Seriously?

          And how about Kevin Feige when he said, “I believe there will be a fourth ‘Iron Man’ and a fifth, sixth and a 10th and a 20th. I see no reason why Tony Stark can’t be as evergreen as James Bond…”


          Cubby Broccoli is turning in his grave.

          • Exactly.

            Here is why Bond is miles ahead of others: it’s a franchise with a team that cares. They don’t go in and map out plans for sequels, Bond has always been a gamble. That’s what makes it exciting. Cubby met with Fleming, Fleming met with Connery, EON took notes, and they’re still pumping out amazing 007 films because they sat down and thought about what they did wrong every time the gamble wasn’t in their favor.

            Marvel is never going to have that magic, and I can’t say DC will either (unless someone like Bruce Timm is involved). They aren’t taking a gamble at all; they just want you to think something like Avengers = 50 freaking years of success in a franchise that isnt their own.

            • With Marvel, their first priority is MONEY. $$$$$$$$$

              Everything else comes in 2nd, 3rd and below after that reality.

              If RDJ smacks down Marvel and Feige for being cheap, what else does anyone need to know that’s it’s only money driven (?)

              The deal Disney and Marvel made with China reeks of global, corporate Finances.

              IM3 sucks. But Marvel and Feige couldn’t care less. They are only happy because it’s made so much money.

              And a lot of all that money came from CHINA and other global markets where the audience will be happy to pay for ANY movie.

              IM3 is no different that Bay’s “Tranformers” flicks. They are designed as nothing more than money making machines. This is why Michael Bay gets the hate. But he doesn’t care. He’s too busy counting his money along with Paramount…

  21. For crying out loud people Dominic Monaghan is the guy who played pippin in The Lord of the rings trilogy. You’re actually thinking of Dominic Cooper. But I do think he would do a pretty good job. He’s a great actor. Have any of you seem the devils double? Great flick!

  22. Blade got made before Wonder Woman did, now that says a lot? yeah the Daywalker jump kick this whole comic book world.

  23. We need Scarlet Witch and Wasp to feminine up The Avengers (uh, and Quicksilver and Goliath, also….).(…but they are not feminine….).

  24. I would love to see Jeffrey dean Morgan as stark… in case Disney/marvel gives the boot to RDJ… I love RDJ but Disney/marvel is so much into making money that they are willing to dump on the fans… if it were up to me I’d sick The Joker on them

  25. I take that back I think he played Mary not pippin. But that’s besides the point.

  26. This thread is very revealing to me in that so many peeps are now open to a new actor replacing RDJ.

    Read the comments and it speaks for itself.

    I think we are all becoming more realistic in that Iron Man can indeed go on without RDJ.

  27. Scarlett Johansson is such a terrible actress. She was so shallow in Avengers. Remember the scene where she’s talking to Loki? The camera zooms out behind her just so they can get that shot of her big nice ass and it stays there for about 10 seconds. Oh Joss Whedon, you talentless f**k. He did a terrible job with Black Widow and the whole movie. Find a director who knows what he’s doing for Avengers 2. I prefer superhero movies over comedies, Avengers was a comedy more than anything else.

    • jealous much samantha?

      yes, joss doesn’t know what he’s doing, that’s why MANY people went to see The Avengers MULTIPLE times, because the movie was just so BAD.

      • It’s not as bad as many people exaggerate it out to be, including myself. But I don’t consider it to be a great comic book movie by any means, it’s like an updated version of Mel Brooks humor that doesn’t become timeless mixed in with some superheroes.

    • Eh, Samantha, I can’t say I agree with you about Scarjo-ever seen “Lost in Translation”? It’s a hilarious, heartfelt movie that doesn’t involve her showing her assets; she’s just acting. And she does a great job. Now as for Avengers, i have to say, I think she was downplayed a but, and some of the lines in the script were a little corny for her part. She seemed to be stronger and more capable in IM2, at least in my opinion, than in Avengers.
      As for Avengers, honestly, when I watched the first time, i had a nerd fanboy freakout. I thought it was the best movie of the year. then i re-watched and spotted the flaws. Still thought it was great. Then I re-watched it later, without all of the excitement and…yeah. It’s just ok. First half is a little strong, and Joss Whedon plays up the comic book script a little too much, but still strong. However, the second half…eh. Fun to watch, but nothing new. It’s just escapism; but it’s definitely not one of the best comic book movies ever.

  28. More female heroes in movies would be nice, but saying that we ‘need’ them is wrong and can backfire, and has done in the past. Forcing IP into a movie simply because we ‘need’ more female superheroes only leads to the bad character development we saw in movies like “Catwoman”. Put a female character into a movie because the storyline needs them, not because they are female. Also, we tend to focus on the more well known female supers, there are plenty of characters that can work, from both the x-men and avengers line-up.

  29. Weird… Joss Whedon and strong female characters… who would’ve guessed.

    I’m not complaining about the idea. But it needs to be done right. And IMO, he doesn’t do it well. His female drama/romance is no better than Twilight. Maybe a bit more humorous. But nothing to be praised for.