Joss Whedon on DC’s Movie Style: ‘I Like What They Do’

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Allow us to break some news: comic book fans of Marvel and DC tend to speak passionately about their favorite heroes. As Marvel has turned their superheroes into an ever-growing Cinematic Universe, DC and Warner Bros. have played a much slower game. And even though DC’s ‘Big Three’ may be looming on the horizon with the arrival of Batman V Superman, fans on both sides of the feud are quick to advise the studio to simply follow Marvel’s plan as quickly as possible.

The creative visionary for Marvel’s latest films isn’t among them, however. According to writer/director Joss Whedon (The Avengers, The Avengers: Age of Ultron), DC and Warner Bros. don’t need to start copying the competition, since they’re taking an approach that is all their own – and he’s a fan.

Rivalry and heated debate is nothing new when it comes to comic book (or blockbuster movie) business, and the ages-old feud between Marvel and DC has resulted in two very different approaches to comic book adaptations. With Marvel now ten films into their shared Avengers universe – most recently taken into outer space with Guardians of the Galaxy – DC still claims only Man of Steel, with Dawn of Justice the next to introduce Batman and Wonder Woman.

So when Whedon was on hand (via remote video) at this year’s NerdHQ during Comic-Con 2014, it wasn’t a surprise to see an audience member ask the writer/director what advice he would give to DC to help them “up their game.” But Whedon’s response should prove as a strong reminder that different doesn’t always mean worse:

“I don’t think I would say that. I think that would be a little presumptuous of me. I think that both studios have kind of different agendas, different ways of approaching the superhero genre, and the ethos of the thing, and the esthetic. They go very dark and serious and sometimes it works amazingly, and Marvel tends to be a little lighter. Both have movies that I adore, and both have movies that I’m like… [pained expression]. Including bits of my own.”

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“I would not want them to do what Marvel does. I like what they do when they get it right. When you get a Heath Ledger, and Batman Begins, and those things that really grip you. That’s something nobody else is doing, and I like it. I want them to do what they’re doing.”

We’ve long expressed our belief that comic book and movie fans are likely better off having movie studios looking to make BOTH fantastic, lighthearted superhero movies and grounded, more drama-focused stories than simply one or the other. It would seem Whedon agrees, singling out Christopher Nolan’s Batman Begins and The Dark Knight‘s version of the Joker (perhaps the strongest result that WB’s darker approach has yielded) as reasons he’s glad to see his “competition” charting their own course.

Whedon’s comments may not be as explosive as Zack Snyder’s claims about DC heroes compared to Marvel’s (that’s not the director’s style), but they make the same point: that differences in a genre of film are to be encouraged, not sacrificed for the sake of a speedy development and maximized profits. Warner Bros. has publicly shown that they’re not interested in competing with Marvel’s films, or even hinting that they’re following a similar path.

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Those differences in approach have proved divisive even among critics; evidenced in our own comments sections, split between those who feel DC must ‘rush’ to catch up, and those who attack the studio for ‘rushing’ their shared universe by filling Dawn of Justice with heroes. Neither is without some drawbacks, as Whedon implies that not every Nolan film or potentially Man of Steel was his cup of tea (clearly true of many moviegoers) – but they don’t have to be.

It’s unlikely that even Joss Whedon could quell the war of words between fans of their respective superhero studios, but his perspective has to be given weight. By walking two entirely different paths, both Marvel and DC can tell stories that the other simply can’t. Fans should probably be thankful that they get to enjoy both.

Where do you sit on this issue? Do Whedon’s words echo your own feelings that a lack of variety is to be avoided, or think that one studio’s approach is better in the long run? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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  1. While I think WB/DC is taking the wrong approach and they should have done like Marvel, I think it’s too late to do it with individual superheroes then the big team up if they want to catch up to Marvel, otherwise we’d probably wouldn’t see a Justice League movie until 2025, if they did take the same route as Marvel they should have had started the DCCU back in 2009.

    • What do you mean ‘like Marvel’. You Marvel fanboys need understand that the Justice League is nothing like the Avengers so why would you use the same approach?

      • How is JL not like The Avengers and or vice verse?

        At their cores they are a group of heroes that come together to form a team. Furthermore they are both (usually) the cream of the crop when it comes to the characters of their respective Universes. Even more so you can (kind of) pair them up to their abilities etc.

        Now if you are speaking mood/tone then yes they are different but only on the surface. Underneath they are the same.

        • JL is more Superman, Batman, WW & the gang, whereas the Avengers don’t have an established hierarchy. JL characters in the same universe cannot exist without one another, hence I don’t want DC to make movies that isolates a character away from all the team members for an entire movie. The only similarities these two teams have is that, like Watchmen & FF, they are teams, nothing more. Their stories are different, their background are different, even their superpowers are different so why would you want o make them the same.

          • What? Larry…dude, what? JL members can’t exist without one another? Seriously? The Avengers are Marvel’s JL and vice versa. Of course they are different, but they are also very much the same.

          • Just so you know the hierarchy of the Avengers is Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor. Sure they come and go but so do DC’s big three. The Avengers were a direct response to the Justice League. The two teams have tons of similarities.

          • The Avengers absolutely do have a hierarchy; Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man, the big three. The remaining members are, and have always been, interchangeable.

        • WHy like avengers? why not mention league of extraordinary gentlemen or mystery men? avengers not the first hero team up!

          • I love the Mystery Men movie.

        • Justice League was created in 1960, the Avengers (and the Fantastic Four and X-Men, for that matter) was created a few years after. So in the end, Marvel’s been the copycat all along.

          • The Avengers debut was 1963, three years later. Fantastic Four was 1961, but you are correct, Justice League came first. Both Marvel and DC have continuously ripped each others characters off through the years.

            • thats becuase weveryone who worked for marvel has worked for DC and vice versa. they preetty much rip on each other all the time. there are a few differences. like spider-man is a very unique character.

      • you are right
        avengers is better
        nuff said

        • MARVEL fan-boy

          • Yeah marvel fan-boy……….. or a person with an opinion that isn’t your’s and that pisses you off!

    • You clearly didn’t read this article properly.

    • 2025?

      Marvel released Iron Man in 2008 and The Avengers in 2012. Just 5 years apart. Thor, Captain America and Iron Man 2 was released in 2010 and 2011.

      DC released Man of Steel in 2013, so if they really wanted to do it like Marvel, they could have released 1 movie in 2015, two in 2016 and then Justice League in 2018. They they would have done excactly what Marvel did: same number of movies in the same number of years, and they’d still beat your schedule by 7 years ;)

      Let’s not exagerate this. Sure, Marvel released 4 solo movies with 3 different leading heroes before The Avengers. But it all happened in a short amount of time. Especially those last 3 in 2010 and 2011 and then The Avengers in 2012.

      DC could still surprise us and release 2 or 3 before Justice Leage. We don’t have a confirmed release dates. And I don’t think we should assume that BvS is the same as The Avengers and therefore it’s rushed. Sure, it has a rich cast. But we don’t know that they’ll all be suiting up and joining forces just yet.

      I’m not gonna choose sides. I’ve read both DC and Marvel, and I’ll be watching both DC and Marvel. For now I am trusting Snyder.

      • Oops… my math (or my powers of observation) is appaling. Iron Man and The Avengers is only 4 years apart. Damn, that’s rushed ;)

        • And your penmanship is atrocious.

          • And my cooking is nefarious.

  2. I agree with Whedon. I’m a fan of Marvel & DC. I just like good stories. I don’t see a need for DC to do the same thing Marvel is doing, although I would like to see more material from them more often. The whole Marvel vs. DC debate has gotten very old & annoying.

  3. I love DC and I love Marvel, they offer slightly different approach’s but that is only a good thing.

    • Troke, I agree with you 100%………..nothing worn with enjoying both th DC and the Marvel movies! It would be boring if both studios used the same approach to movies. As comic book fans, I think we should be pretty grateful that we live in an era where these films are exploding. It’s ok to like a movie from either comic book publisher.

  4. Good words from Whedon.I can’t understand the fight between us the fans,I LOVE both companies,their comics and movies have their places in my heart,so the hate is really illogical to me.DC should NOT copy Marvel,and I’m glad they won’t.DC have stronger grounds with their trinity,fans scream when just hearing the names.They just shouldn’t rush(as they did)and give us good material and we’ll automatically demand more.

  5. I love DC movies and I love Marvel movies. I think it’s ridiculous the hatred fans put on one another. In my opinion, even if DC takes longer with there movies, they are better. I love Marvel and am a huge fan of The Avengers but I still haven’t seen a Marvel movie that has impressed me as much as The Dark Knight Trilogy or Man Of Steel.

    • have you taken a look at Captain America: TWS, its better than any DC movie so far.

      • You’re right. Better than any movie from The Dark Knight trilogy.


      • the best comic book movie is TDK at all levels. Captain America:TWS was very good but i don’t think there is going to be another comic book movie like TDK.

        • rise was utter crap sry
          the best of the trilogy was the dark knight

        • There is no better movie, it’s all just a matter of opinion. I know that their are bad movies and good movies, don’t get me wrong, but the Dark Knight and Captain America 2 are both great movies, and one is only better than the other due to personal opinion. My favorite comic book films thus far have been; Guardians, Avengers, Thor, Cap 2, and the Dark Knight but I can’t say one is better than the other, nor do I feel inclined to. I enjoy the good films for what they are and try to avoid the bad ones.

          • i agree that it’s a matter of opinion but i meant it is better on terms of direction, acting performances and movie plot. Don’t forget that is the first oscar-awarded comic book movie for the performance of Heath Ledger. You have to admit that it is the movie that took comic book movies one step further. TDK is a major influence for many superhero movies.

      • Yea u @ss..dark knight rises better than all marvel movies

      • Yeahh u @$$, what a stupid thing to write

      • My God, can you stop, he clearly has seen Cap 2 since he loves Marvel and he’s allowed to have an opinion to prefer MOS and TDKT over Cap 2, stop trying to inject your opinions into other people and learn to respect their’s.

  6. if I could be one of the creative people in power at WB/DC here’s a little bit of what I would do:

    My goal first would be to establish the universe only with a handful of origin stories that the public doesn’t know like WW, flash, another GL, maybe shazam… but after that I’d spend time retelling those amazing overarching JLA and crisis stories… all while sprinkling in new characters that could spin off into their own franchises… for example say you adapt a DC story and a guy like booster gold gets a big audience pop. once you finish out that story if interest is still high spin BG into his own movie.. if that takes off you have a new franchise.

    do that with a multitude of characters and now you have these new properties that people are craving for that AREN’T batman and supes.. This also takes the pressure off of those two to perform so that they don’t need to carry so much of the WB which in terms gives you freedom to explore much of those characters rogues galleries because you’re not saying “if batman/superman fails we’re all screwed.”

  7. I don’t see why there is such a divide. When I was growing up the popular characters were always Batman, Superman, Spiderman and X-men. I think that’s still true. The MCU has changed that somewhat with the first Iron Man and the Avengers. But I would still say the “big 4″ (including x-men) rule the day when their movies are good as Whedon points out with Nolan’s Batman. Snyder missed the mark somewhat with Man of Steel and there has yet to be, in my mind, a perfect Spiderman movie. Raimi’s Spiderman 2 was closest but I would liken it to Burton’s Batman 1989. It was good but we’re still waiting on the “Batman Begins” for Spiderman. What sets the MCU apart is their lighter approach. Nolan’s Batman and Singer’s X-men are near perfect but both are pretty serious so there needs to be a lighter approach. This is where I think Sony is going wrong with Spiderman as he could easily fill that void if handled on the Marvel model.

    • I don’t really agree that there “needs to be a lighter approach”. Nothing wrong with a serious superhero movie, as long as the director gives the audience the pay off the characters have been striving for(at some point). Give the fans, reasons to care about those characters. That’s where these stories need to improve. Too many times, characters are just rendered as longer cameos without the meaningful characterization.

      Days Of Future Past was pretty dark, but in the middle of it was emotional story telling. The Winter Solider was more serious than past MCU movies, and it worked for me. It’s just something I prefer for my comic book movies, I want a little more grounding and serious take. That’s how I connect to them, seeing how they would work in a world similar to ours, which I why I actually enjoyed Man of Steel. I’m digging Snyder’s vision for the DCCU, alot of dark Sci-Fi and fantasy like you saw in Man of steel’s krypton intro.

      • +1

        I dig the lighter Marvel flicks. They’re entertaining. However, I’m far more partial to the more serious approach of a CA:WS, DoFP and the approach that DC has taken as of late and seem to be continuing into the future. I’m never quite fully engaged or enthralled when watching the lighter stuff as despite often being thoroughly entertained.

        • +1 to the 9th degree….I loved MOS darker,gritter approach much more than the Lighthearted GOG approach…..loved GOG..but come on man down load your cassette tape to what ever future tech. you have and put the walk-man on a shelf. And sure Howard the Duck was funny and all but to me it really breaks the bonds of the Marvel universe being set in a real world…the ole wink and a nod to the camera and audience is fine but it pulls me out of the experience of this is a real world situation.

          I enjoy that stuff but not as much as the thought that maybe thousands of people died in Metropolis and nobody not even Supes could stop that from happening a legit threat and by product of superbeings or any massive attack and then Superman had to make a real world decision and take a life to end the carnage……and that now he will have to struggle with the idea he could always take that easy way and quick way to stop a conflict is interesting. And it is IMO more grounded in reality than the OLE Pie in the sky non reality based hippy dippy belief there is always a way to avoid killing and collateral damage. Well boys and girls there is not……if you want a reality based movie.

    • I just want to ask.

      What are you missing from Batman Begins that you feel you didn’t get in Spider-Man or The Aamazing Spider-Man, and which isn’t simply a matter of personal preferences?

      I mean, all 3 movies offer a detailed origin story that follows the transformation from zero to hero and culminates in the hero’s first big fight against a troublemaking villain.

      So technically the 3 movies are all “Hero Begins” movies, and the rest is a matter of what you personally prefer to watch as far as I could tell.

      I think Spider-Man did get his “Batman Begins” with Raimi’s Spider-Man. It stayed very true to the origin from the source material and it established the motivation of the character.

      About the lighter tone, to me that’s what fits the characters. Batman should never be too light. But Spider-Man also shouldn’t be too dark. Batman is a lone wolf with nothing but a life devoted to fighting crime. Spider-Man still has a personal life with family and friends and even a lot of love. That does make a difference for the character and therefore also for the tone of it all.

    • I am an avid comic book collector, predominantly Marvel, and aside from the cosmic books; Guardians, Nova, Silver Surfer, etc, the X-Men are my favorite comics. I collect and have collected, every Wednesday since 1991, various X-Titles; Uncanny X-Men, Amazing X-Men, X-Force, Wolverine, Wolverine + The X-Men, X-Men Legacy, Magneto, Cyclops, etc. and I can say, wholeheartedly, that the X-Men film franchise is nowhere near perfect. In my opinion, aside from the Fantastic Four films, the X-Men and Wolverine flicks have been the biggest comic book disappointments. I haven’t seen the newest X-Men however, which I hear is fantastic, and I’ll watch when it’s released on Dvd, but the original trilogy, the Origins film, and the Wolverine films, have all, in my opinion, been horrible. For me, as a comic book fan, this is mainly due to the major changes in character, roster, and overall story, but my comic book geekness aside, I still don’t see those films as near perfect. I would place the Spider-Man trilogy and the first two films in the new Trilogy, far above the X-films. But, thats just my opinion.

  8. Whedon is & always has been a classy guy & Marvel Studios is a classy organization without a doubt.

    The headline of this article is quite misleading & takes what Joss said out of context. His exact quote was…

    ““I like what they do when they get it right.”

    Notice how Screen Rant left that last & most critical part out, “when they get it right”. Therein lies the problem, WB/DC can’t get it right, especially under Snyder & Goyer. The Batman trilogy was amazing, Man of Steel was just awful, & BvS, well that mess speaks for itself from the casting to in fighting on the set.

    Under the right leadership WB/DC could ammount to something special but the way it is now, it never will.

    • True, but the full quote is in the article and if a person only read headlines, I guess that person’s opinion would be like… [pained expression] ;)

      And actually WB/DC is ‘getting it right’ if the definition of ‘getting it right’ is on the multiple opinions of the majority of moviegoers. At the end of the day that matters more than the opinions of the minority of moviegoers. I know it’s hard to swallow, but that’s how it works.

  9. The biggest surprise in this article, for me, was Joss Whedon admitting that even his movie has elements that are cringe-worthy bad.
    I just wish more folks would admit that even though The Avengers is a fun lark of a movie, it is pretty badly written. Oh well.
    To each his own.

    • Well we dont know maybe he was referring to FOX and SONY who also owns some Marvel characters. My take on “movies has elements that are cringe-worthy bad”, I thought he was referring to what he said that he likes what Nolan did to Batman making it dark and serious but that doesnt mean all your movies has to be dark and serious.

  10. I guess Whedon had forgotten that WB rejected his script for a live-action Wonder Woman flick back in 2004.

  11. There are plenty of things wrong with Marvel movies. I am a comic book fan and admittedly a bigger Marvel fan. The biggest reason for this is besides the first two batman movies and the first two batman movies in the nolan trilogy the DC movie verse has been a joke. The original superman and superman 2 are classics and won’t be included. Green hornet, green lantern, catwoman are all trash. Constantine, MOS, Red, Red 2 are decent. Fact is we have got 7 batman movies since 1989 because he is their star and the guy they almost cant screw up but still managed to with clooney and kilmer. MOS is what it is and hopefully they know what they are doing to get this universe off the ground. Fact is by the time this movie comes out the Marvel MCU will be what 13-14 movies in? As much as the reviewers on this site and the hardcore DC guys try to tear apart the MCU they simply can’t. Marvel characters own the comic book movie industry right now. I love DC maybe not as much as marvel but for craps sake do those characters justice already.

  12. Does anyone think it’s a little bit crazy which studio decided to go to which direction. Now, forgive me for being a Marvel fanboy, but at least from what I can muster, DC U has (at least pre-new 52)always seemed to have more…I guess you could say outlandish herioc characters, whereas Marvel’s characters to me, at least always felt a little bit darker and a little more grounded, and the heroes usually felt a little bit more heavy, a little bit more human. Of course there are exceptions on both sides.

    However, it seems that Warner Bros. will only write grimdark DC movies, and Marvel meanwhile just goes “Look at how campy this is, you can’t resist it!”
    Of course, after the success of the movies, it seems that the zanier sides of the Marvel Universe are coming out into the mainstream.

    I don’t know, I could be wrong, I’ve got probably a few hundred or more comics, and, I’d be willing to wager that only around 20 of them are DC, and most of those are from “Before Watchmen,” so my assessment of the DCU could be all wrong.

  13. I’m sick and tired of this Marvel/DC Fanboy BS. His comment did not either way. For all you know, he’s a DC fanboy that would have liked to see his “team” go the same path of the competitors.

    The overwhelming consensus is that Marvel has hit a homerun in their development of the MCU thus far. For all we know, DC will do the same, but at this point in it’s development, all we can do is compare it to what we’ve seen. People just need to chill the hell out and enjoy this comic book revolution that we are in. Who knows how long it’s going to last.

  14. Exactly it’s good that they are making their universe different if they did it “The Marvel way” everyone would complain it’s the same.I like that i have a fun light universe on one side and a dark and serious universe on another.

  15. Dear ScreenRant,

    The mash-up image you have been using for this topic looks like superhero farts are igniting.

    That is all.

  16. It seems to me Disney marvel fans attack Dc, Marvel Fox and Marvel Sony Movies.

    Its like they feel threatened when the other studio makes a good movie, like its gonna take away from what Disney marvel is doing.

    It seems Marvel Disney is coping Dc with their darker movies, Cap2 and Avengers 2.

  17. I think that as comic-book fans reading the genre on Hollywood, what’s more important today is that we have comic-book fans like Joss Whedon and Zack Snyder helming these respective universes, that sort of choice would not have been made a few years back. Whedon and Snyder are not Award-Winning directors on the level as, say, Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg, and yet they are given a lot of control over multiple superhero franchises, that must count for something. The same with J.J. Abrams and how he is sort of fulfilling the dreams of every sci-fi kid by directing both Star Trek and Star Wars. By giving these not-so-renowned directors such control I’d say Hollywood is making the right decision. At least on the surface.

    As for the different way with which Marvel and DC studios are creating their movies, I disagree with Whedon — it WAS different when Chris Nolan was in the helm but with Snyder and the current DC Entertainment execs it’s as if they are jumping on the bandwagon. I’ve said this before and I’ll say this again: WB has more financial resources as a studio, Marvel is STILL a small-house who are experimental and brilliantly so, but they rely on Disney for money, and that does limit them. WB doesn’t have that and so could’ve afforded more ambitious and experimental film-makers rather than film-projects — like Nolan, they should’ve stuck to self-contained superhero sagas/trilogies/adaptations instead of trying to go for a shared-universe, which frankly, every other studio in Hollywood is going for after the Avengers. It’s all formulaic now.

    Does anyone remember the Rocky series? Rocky V was a brilliantly shot movie, it was just as emotionally resonant as the original and had a lot of heart. Most importantly, it placed Rocky in an unpredictable place and was more about him as a person rather than as a boxing champion. It deviated from the formula of the previous films, and was critically panned despite being a really good movie. I feel that that sort of mentality still works in Hollywood — if it sticks to convention it’s great, if not, then boo. That’s just terrible.

    • I agree that Whedon and Snyder are probably the best people to helm these franchises.

      But I would remind you that renowned directors like Ridley Scott or Steven Spielberg was never picked to direct superhero movies. They’ve been directed by guy like Jon Favreau, Richard Donner, a young Tim Burton with only a few movies under his belt, Sam Raimi and so on. It hasn’t really been going to the award-winning directors in the past either. Many of them had proven themselves when they got the job. I am not saying otherwise. They just weren’t up there with Ridley Scott of Steven Spielberg back then.

      I don’t quite understand the argument about Marvel relying on Disney money while WB has the financial resources themselves. Because WB is to DC what Disney is to Marvel. So both comic book companies are in the same situation and relying on their movie studio partner, right?

      Either way, I am exited to see what Snyder does :)

  18. Also, reading Snyder’s previous comments on how Iron Man and Thor movies are somehow less transcendental in a world where Superman and Batman exists, about how DC heroes are “archetypes” and that Superman is a “thing to be celebrated.” Good god, this man previously said that Watchmen was “an essay on the nature of superheroes” — he GETS IT ALL WRONG. First of all, symbols and archetypes are the furthest from what is truly HUMAN and RELTABLE. That’s the whole point of the TDK trilogy, that split between man and legend, human and symbol, and that’s why even Superman in MoS is more of an ideal around whom this whole world reacts and responds and grows, rather than a real character. Then, calling a story an “essay” is an insult to the narrative itself. An essay is an intellectualized analysis of something, a story is a series of events that readers and listeners are then allowed to interpret and re-interpret according to their own understanding. Kind of like, y’know REAL LIFE, which is also a series of stuff happening and we’re caught in the middle of? Seriously, I don’t hate Snyder, I love all of his movies so far, and MoS is something I’d give a very mixed but generally favourable review of, but to say that a story is an essay immediately destroys whatever that story can be. He’s being preachy.

  19. I don’t care what they do as long as they are good films. Honestly – how many of us out there are watching ONLY Marvel or ONLY DC? I’m not too thrilled about SvB and Cap3 being on the same date in 2016 but you bet your ass I’m going to see both of them that weekend. The question is – which do I see first? Well that will depend on what the buzz is beforehand.

    The losers will likely be the theaters that show the films – what with free refills for large sodas and popcorns… we’ll double feature the day away.

  20. Most likely BvS and Cap3 won’t be on the same date in 2016. WB/DC and Marvel can’t risk each other movie hurting it’s profits. As for what Joss Whedon said I agree Warner Bros. superhero movies are better with their apporch. For example Man of Steel and The Dark Knight bought darker tones to the characters. No way The Dark Knight would of made a billion if it went the Marvel way.

    Man of Steel would not been successful if it was not dark. Superman needed to done a different way not like it was back in the 70′s. Warner Bros. way of making superhero movies is a nice contrast to Marvel.

  21. Translation: “I hope they keep screwing up and go downhill so we can make more money” Well…not that awful of a comment but :)

  22. I don’t get the whole fanboy love/ hate of the two properties. I read both Marvel and DC and enjoy both for what they offer. The same holds true for the movies (hits and misses). The point isn’t that the audience has to pick one over the other. The point is to make an entertainment medium that entertains the audience and makes a profit for the studio. It’s that simple folks. Enjoy that we live in a time when we have so much choice in what to entertain us.

    Just for the record a team up movie has been proven to work out of the gate. One need look no further than Marvel’s latest release to see GoTG was a piece of work that was a joy to take in.

  23. I agree with Joss on this one. I’m personally glad that each studio is doing their different thing. I love the fun loving feel of the Marvel Universe, yet also love the dark and dramatic feel of the DC Universe. I think all of us Superhero movie fans should be happier than a pig in mud that we are getting different views. I think that if everyone was doing the same thing we would soon grow tired of the monotony!

  24. If WB/DC can create a good product, good writing, acting, directing etc they can do what they want as far as the ‘direction’ Marvel took. Superman and Batman do not need anymore origin movies. If your a kid then it’s your parent’s fault you don’t know about Superman and Batman everyone else there is no excuse. It would have been nice to see origin movies for Flash, WW, Aquaman but even those heroes are at least as well known as most of the Avengers except the Hulk. I agree the movies should be a different tone, I even wonder if Age of Ultron is going to be as ‘light’ as The Avengers….anyways thanks to Josh for being well spoken and having a clear mind as always, he want’s to see good art that respects the material hey isn’t that what matters the most?

  25. Yes, I want DC to copy Marvel(Fox and Sony as well). By writing a decent story. Aside the new Batman the DC movies have been pretty bad. They need to get someone that actually understands what the characters mean both in writing and directing. It isn’t about making films exactly like the comics, but too often the core of who that heroes is and what makes them the hero they are was totally missed.

    The Marvel films were not exact, but for the greater part they got the heart of who and what those heroes are and that is what I want DC to follow.

    • Oops kind of wrote that wrong. I want DC, Fox, and Sony to follow Marvel I don’t want DC to Follow Fox and Sony.

  26. Personally, I am not sure Marvel and DC are all that different aside from Marvel’s plan at unveiling their heroes. Both companies seem to basically ignore the light hearted and positive history of their heroes and essentially take everything dark.

    Admittedly Batman etc. was to an extent campy whereas the reboots of more recent years are darker but always there is the relatively negative nature of Batman’s world.

    Marvel’s characters and films then to be more “realistic” and less “fantastic” but overall pretty negative too.

    I remember runs of Avengers etc., from the comics where the battles or the relationships weren’t so heavy. A lighter touch would be appreciated in either DC or Marvel films but it isn’t likely to happen.