Joss Whedon ‘Excited’ For ‘Avengers 2′ Villain; Hopes Sequel is Better

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The Avengers 2 Release Date Joss Whedon Excited For Avengers 2 Villain; Hopes Sequel is Better

Joss Whedon, who’s made headlines recently for talking up the two new characters he’s adding to The Avengers 2 roster, handed in the first draft of the sequel’s screenplay before he began work helming the pilot for Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. television show on ABC. While the writer and director has revealed who the new hero additions will be, he’s yet to disclose who they’re up against.

The untitled sequel to The Avengers is still two years out and we’re still deciphering who the villain(s) of next year’s Guardians of the Galaxy will be, but Whedon isn’t afraid of talking about how he’s shaping The Avengers 2 and aims to focus on the team dynamic.

In chatting with Empire, Whedon agrees that the common sequel formula of shifting focus away from the core characters and onto the villain is not going to work for him:

“Yes, that always makes me cranky. I’m very excited about the villain, and have a lot to say about him. But if you watch my shows, the one thing I’ve never been very good at is guest stars, because I’ve always been so interested in the ensemble. With The Avengers, I’m still most fascinated by them. How do these guys feel, and what’s the way they conflict, and what’s the unexpected way they connect? Forming a team is one story; being a team is a very different story. The other thing is, you don’t try to top it. I know I will never make as pleasing a moment in a film as Hulk and Loki. You can’t chase that dragon. If you try to do exactly the same thing, the chances you’re going to do it better are very slim, and the only reason for me to devote three years to making another Avengers movie is the hope of making a better one.”

From his choice words, Whedon hints that the main villain of The Avengers sequel is a singular foe and is a male. Not much to go on, but with new enemies to be revealed in Thor: The Dark World this fall, Captain America: The Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy next year, not to mention the promised return of the Extremis serum from Iron Man 3, there’s a lot for Whedon to draw from that’s already going to have been introduced in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Let’s not forget that Thanos is almost a sure bet for a return appearance in The Avengers 2 as well, potentially in a limited capacity if he’s being saved for the long haul (see: Phase Three).

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While Whedon claims he’s not going to go “bigger” with the sequel, the spectacle and action will be there and that means the (now larger) Avengers team needs to battle enemies more fierce than the Chitauri and their flying sleds and space whales from The Avengers. Hulk’s gotta SMASH, after all. In an interview a few weeks ago in talking about the purpose of introducing Thanos in the post-credits scene of The Avengers, Whedon loosely touches upon the big picture villain plans:

“Well, Thanos is more powerful. He is so powerful he is not someone you can just try out and punch him. Like he did in the comics, you want him threading through the universe and to save the big finale for the big finale. He is definitely a part of what I have got going on.

The thing about The Avengers is that they are very powerful but not very stable. So, there will definitely be some people that will shake them up in the next installment.”

The “people” in this case may not necessarily refer to multiple villains, but to new roster additions Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch who Whedon went on record describing as a brother-sister act that may not agree with how The Avengers function. Perhaps the “bad guy” isn’t necessarily that bad and just maybe, Whedon is giving us the biggest hint ever in saying the sequel really does get personal and focus on the team dynamic being tested – could the Hulk take a turn for the worse and could the rumors about it leading to a Planet Hulk movie be true? Multiple sources, including Whedon himself, say otherwise so the only thing we can expect for certain, is “death.”

Iron Man 3 is currently in theaters, Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and Doctor Strange sometime after that.

Let me know on Twitter @rob_keyes who Earth’s Mightiest should battle!

Source: Empire (via CBM)

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  1. Why is Wolverine in that picture of The Avengers up top? He should be with the X-men stuff. Who–is this roodie-poo? I am almost afraid to open my bedroom closet, for fear he’ll pop out of there next!

    • Wolverine is an avenger actually, along with luke cage and Spiderman. They’re part of the new avengers. interestingly, The beast was an avengers as well. the only other x-men i can spot is Rogue. As for the Maximoff twins, they never were in the x-men, their first run as heroes and not vilains being as Avengers.

      • I think the sequel to the Avengers title should be called
        “Avengers: United We Stand” since the film is focus on the heroes getting along with each other

        • Or “Avengers: United We Fall”. Considering some hero is gonna die in Avengers 2.

          It won’t be something like that though; X-Men already used United. To generic. We’ll just have to wait and see.

          • “United We Fall” sounds great and sad. I like it.

          • Nice work,dude :)

  2. You know, it’s interesting how many marvel and DC characters have their opposites in each other’s comics:
    Green Arrow/Hawkeye
    The Atom/Ant-Man
    Plastic Man/Mr. Fantastic
    The Flash/Quicksilver
    Dr. Fate/Dr. Strange
    There are probably numerous other examples of similarities like this, but these were just a few of the ones I happened to think of off the top of my head.

    • Batman / Moonknight is another
      Wonderwoman/ she-hulk…pretty similar

      of course these similarities are natural…it’s like the demon Etriggan and ghost rider..

      • and Alfred / Jarvis the two butlers are alike
        Captain Stacey / Commissioner Gordan both Gotham’s and New York’s Most Finest police captains

        • thought of another one..

          The Watcher and Metron.. 2 entities that stay passive and witness at importan events.

    • funny how all the DC ones suck

      • funny how trolls always know when & where DC and Marvel are brought up in a discussion…

    • Captain Marvel

  3. After watching Iron Man 3, I would like phase two to mirror phase one’s beginnings of SHEILD and the Avengers, by focusing on A.I.M. And Hydra. I was surprised to see that AIM was behind everything in Iron Man 3, and Killian foreshadowed MODOK in his meeting with Pepper.

    • Yes!!

  4. Taskmaster could gut this team by using dysfunction angainst them. Baron Nemo would be solid as well. Personally, Id like to see a legit Dr. Doom. A LEGIT Dr. Doom would be the best Marvel Villain.

    • Sacha Baron Cohen would make the best legit Doctor Doom.

  5. Hi i have request for Mr Joss whedon sir if you get this , there is lots of talks about there will be wasp in avengers 2 and its gonna be played by a Chinese woman if its true then sir PLEASE DON’T DO THIS i am not racist but they Ruin the movies like (expendables 2)if you are casting Chinese then cast Male Chinese actors and its not just me lots of people i know believe this

    • Look up the Ultimates comic, The wasp is asian in them. Same with Nick fury being black. The avengers movies are more utlimate universe based than the original one, so i wouldn’t mind a chinese Janet van dyne.

  6. THOR and Iron man must have bigger Roles in Avengers 2

  7. Avengers 2 ( Revenge of Thanos )

  8. Great stuff – all good as always – I have a feeling Hulk will turn on the other Avengers for some reason…that’s what I remember about the comics – he wasn’t actually a member..he reluctantly assisted when he had too. Mabey Thanos will have him under a spell of somekind.
    Just don’t kill off The Hulk – you just can’t do that !

  9. Anybody know who controls the Shi’ar, Marvel or Fox?

  10. Will Whedon ever stop talking up Avengers 2 and actually start production… Its all Blah blah blah and no work work work…

    • Well, he would not talk, but people nowdays ask all the time too many guestions! :)

      Movie is coming out in 2 years and we wanna see trailers already

  11. Avengers: The Uprising of Thanos

  12. As long as wedon does not do anything like shane black,drew pearce or jon favreau to ruin a character (mandarin) like fox does with xmen, then avengers 2 should be fine.

  13. Well, Thanos did destroy half of the Universe to please Death. Ultimately, the only one who beats Thanos is himself. Warlock gets the credit, but he really nudged him into the right direction the best he could.

  14. Joss gets it. This guy knows what we want as fans, and he delivers. How refreshing is that!? The guy has a plan, knows it, understands the characters, and is exicuting the plan very well.

    Hats off to Joss, keep doing what you’re doing, you’re the best at it;and hats off to Marvel for locking up the best and brightest mind/talent in the CBM business to handle their properties!

  15. So we’re going to get two versions of Quicksliver on the big screen from Marvel and Fox, before we get one version of the Flash from WB/DC?


    • ^^ THIS. So true. WE WANT FLASH

      • Maybe they’ll throw in Buried Alien for good measure. Proportionately few would get it, but that would be quite a sarcastic hat tip to DC.

  16. Avengers 2: The Search For More Money

    • Yes

  17. I always felt they should not have went w/The Infinity Gauntlet storyline,but w/The Avengers/Marvel Two-In One Annuals story. W/O the Cosmic gods or Adam Warlock,they will completely dumb the power of the gauntlet (Infinity Gems)or Thanos will succumb to a plot device.

  18. i think The Avengers 2 movie will Replace Black Widow & Hawkeye with SCARLET WITCH & QUICKSILVER

  19. thanos and death will be the vilain for the avengers 2 and wolverine,quicksliver scarlet witch will be in the avengers 2 as well many other as well guardians of the galaxy.

  20. i think wolverine should be included in the next avengers films.. coz he is one of the members and spiderman also. since thanos is the villain in the movie, how about “The Avenger & the Infinity Gauntlet” for a title? since thanos owns the infinity gauntlet.

    • Thanos is NOT the villain in the next Avengers. Ultron is. Thanos is going into Phase 3 at least before he is used.