Johnny Depp As The Riddler In The Dark Knight Sequel?
Aug 2, 2008 by Kofi OutlawAnother crazy rumor has been floated regarding the villains for the next Batman movie
(My dear readers, you have permission to treat this rumor as hostile.)
Not two days after wild rumors started circulating that Angelina Jolie was looking to play Catwoman in Christopher Nolan’s third chapter of the Batman Begins series, comes an even wilder rumor from out of the UK that Warner Bros. execs have begun eying top-notch actors Johny Depp and Oscar-winner Philip Seymour Hoffman for the roles of The Riddler and The Penguin in the next Bat-flick
DON’T DRINK THE KOOL-AID JUST YET. For every new rumor of which villains will be featured in the next Batman film, comes another statement from Dark Knight scribes Jonathan Nolan and David S. Goyer, saying that they are trying NOT to take the obvious route of throwing the second-most iconic villains from Batman’s rogue gallery into the next film. However, as Spider-Man 3 taught us all, when a franchise reaches a certain $tature, the studio’s wishes quickly begin to trump any creative desires. Don’t be surprised to see The Riddler, The Penguin, or both, show up in the final draft of the script.
However, we won’t really know anything until a script for BB3 is actually done. But that hasn’t stopped fan debates from raging 24/7. Personally, I don’t think Goyer and Nolan should be working too hard to try to pull out obscure villains and/or plotlines for the next installment. If Heath Ledger’s performance in The Dark Knight taught us anything, it’s that an actor at the top of his or her game is able to take what is iconic and totally redefine it. (And fanboys, really, is that not the essence of all the best comic books: re-definition of the status quo?)
Which villains do you think should make into BB3?
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will, I was hoping they would talia in it just so it can go around full circle so they can end it, and jess bane would work in the riddlers sted, he has a photographic memory and he could be used as some sort of a hunting dog for the mayor to find batman. Even if there are no muscle inhancing drugs, venom could just be a halucinagenic that the mayor uses so bane cant think for himself, while not losing any inteligence
someone made a comment earlier that if they use bane that he has like a mental disorder like psyzophrenia or something so he really wont have complete control over himself. They could have him be an ex weight lifter or something to make him see stronger without the muscle inhancing drugs.
you need some sort of drug, so he can have the mask, plus hes an assasin like character
i dont hink tat batman would have a downfall, no matter wat, nothing can stop him, batman is just has messed up mentally has all his villains, he cant stop now, remember he had his chance to leave it all behind in the dark knight, but he didnt, not because of dent, but because he is incapable of living a normal life
But will there is a man behind the mask and im not saying hat he will give up but that he might just screw up a bit or something. And yes he is incapable of living a normal life but once again he is still human, he isnt invinsabile, everyone has their weakness and some villian has the capability to find it.
well u do got a point, he is still a man, an hes not invinsable, in reality, there isnt a superhero out there tat is invinsable, batman does have weaknesses has bruce wayne though, batman is a figuere tat can be broken, remember, batman is has psychotic has the villains he faces
because when he faces his villans he tries to stick to his rules or society rules. But like with the Joker, each villian is going to try to push hm to break his one rule. Mabey it didnt happen this time and it might never happen and we can take the Jokers word that he is incorruptible or mabey someone will push him just far enough. We may not see that come to light for a while though. Very good point Will.
hes not invincible, but he is seen as it by the villains he faces, only maybe ras and joker know his mental weaknesses. He is pretty mentaly strong, in one comic MM couldnt get into his brain because he has the optimal amount of control over himself. if someone does get him to cross the line, it will probably be a down to earth character like KGBeast or deadshot.
I would love Hugo Weaving to play The Riddler rather than Johnny Depp. The problem with Johnny Depp is HE’S TOO HOLLYWOOD. he’s probably funny at times, but he’d definitely ruin the movie for us. and we’ll eventually go see it because Johnny Depp is in it rather than just wanting to know WHAT HAPPENED NEXT. Johnny Depp will take away all the seriousness the sequel has been able to sustain so far. And we don’t wanna go back to the BATMAN FOREVER decade. We don’t need a JIM CARREY or a JOHNNY DEPP anymore. This is being recreated, like CHRISTIAN BALE mentioned. Lets focus on the story, not the actors. otherwise it’ll be a failure, just like BATMAN & ROBIN (1997) because it was full of Hollywood stars. For me, MIICHAEL KEATON is still the best BATMAN of all. and by the way, just look at Hugo Weaving’s great performance in V FOR VENDETTA. He’s a true candidate. He does not have to be funny. We need someone like Hannibal Lecter in the SILENCE OF THE LAMBS. Some psychopath, leaving traces all over GOTHAM CITY, and letting BATMAN solve the riddles to it. This would be just fine, plus, it would be the first actual time we’ll see BATMAN become the true detective he is.
No to Johnny Depp and Guy Pierce. Are people saying these names, because they’re so well known for “off beat’ parts? That’s called a logically fallacy.
@ NATAN; Hugo Weaving is awesome, but he’s not right for the riddler. Movies usually use Weaving for his voice (V for Vendetta).
Also, i think i saw one post that said the Riddler should be a idiot savant. LOL. I think we had the character, and it was called Rain Man.
To be honest, I still think it’ll be Bane or Black Mask; not a cerebral threat, but a physical one. I feel it ties in with the story better. Cops are chasing him, society hates him, and now he’s being battered physically by this villain (bane, black mask).
..So yeah, in the end, all this trauma and opposition would transform Batman into a cold, dark figure that we all know and love.
Someone mentioned Deadshot. He is not a main villain of a Batman movie by any means, but he would make a great side problem for Batman. He could try and be a vigilante like Batman and then get in a confrontation with the Dark Knight and become a bad guy. Just a thought.
Like I said before, I think Bane and Catwoman should be in a Batman movie but not the next one. It’s too soon for Catwoman and Bane needs to be in the last one. In the next film the Riddler and Harley Quinn will be introduced. Riddler VS Batman and Quinn VS Joker. However, adding a minor villain like Deadshot might not be a problem. It would add some more action to the film.
If there were to be a Deadshot, what actor would play him best?
PS. As far as Bane is concerned. No mental disorder. This guy has to be the Bane that puts Batman to the ultimate test. The fact that Bane is smarter and stronger than Batman is what makes him such an exciting character to pick. We don’t want an other Bane bodyguard like the one Poison “Uma” Ivy had. We want the real Bane!
“@ NATAN; Hugo Weaving is awesome, but he’s not right for the riddler. Movies usually use Weaving for his voice (V for Vendetta).” Weaving might not be right, but saying he’s usually used for his voice is a bit out there. As far as I’m concerned, he’s used for his talent. He could play Hugo Strange, though.
For Bane, get the bad guy from No Country For Old Men, to buff up and chuck on a balaclava and some goggles, and you’ve got your Bane.
Javier Bardem
yea I think we mentioned that name a while back, if you guys look back a bit. We said he would be good for the part the only thing is he needs to buff up.
ooooo… Javier Bardem–I don’t know about that.
If they do Bane, they can do some sort of Jekyll and Hyde thing. He can be the same height as Bruce, but when he uses Venom he grows. I don’t think you necessarily have to start with someone who’s 6.5-7 feet tall.
You can make his costume cover his whole body. And, he can be a pale, disfigured or sickly looking (when normal) because of his extended use of the Venom.
…who knows..Just an idea.
Sang, its a good idea but Nolan is going with the whole realism thing so that most likely wont happen
I think they can go with Bain and have the Venom drug make him stronger in a way just like PCP does with drugies, but they don’t have to make him actually grow. Just get an already big guy who when he uses the stuff gets even stronger for a short period of time.
you mean drugs similar to steroids or something?
Sort of a blend between Steroids and PCP. Steroids Increase aggression, but don’t necessarily make you stronger you still have to work out. PCP creates an out of control state of mind. People have been known to do amazing things on PCP. It’s an instant effect.
Ive never even heard of PCP but if it soes as you say it does then that could fit in well with the story
wello not all the effects of pcp, you wouldnt want bane to jump off of the wayne enterprise building, would you?
I didn’t say all the effects of PCP I just said sort of like PCP. That’s the point of calling it Venom. It’s a new original drug.
Everyone is looking for the main villains for the next movie, but what about the minor ones?
I like the idea of Victor Zsasz coming in and playing the Zsasz in the Victims comics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Zsasz
In a nutshell, Zsasz stabs Alfred, finds out he is still alive so tries to kill him again only to be stopped by Wayne. I just think that Alfred being injured is a great test that Batman could, and has yet to, encounter.
Another option could be Deadshot. Just a minor villain that at first tries to be a vigilante like Batman, but is too violent, so he turns to the crime lords and becomes their top assassin. I just like his stories, they would tie in well with Nolan’s vision.
I am liking the ideas for Bane. I really hope that Nolan thinks of having Bane because Nolan could really do Bane justice.
He could possibly be in the next or future film since he made a brief apperance in batman begins.
Nolan would be best going with Hush as he brings a new element to the batman series.Something diffrent, and also , Hush is the most compatible with the Riddler apart from penguin. Plus he is just as dark as the Joker, so Nolan will want to stick to the theme. And psychological thrillers are Nolans specialities, so Nolan would be most comfy working with this character. Hush is probably more complex than the Joker, he actually has an origin story worth going for on the big screen. And the bit about how Hush performs surgery on himself should really creep views just as much as the Joker.
I’d assume that Zsasz will be in the next movie, if only because they mentioned him in begins during the first court scene where crane is testifying to his insanity. however, that could’ve just been a cameo for the character… so i guess it could go either way.
((sorry if this was mentioned before, it popped into my head while i was reading the earlier comments))
I’ve already suggested Bane and Black Mask to be the villains that might be in the 3rd movie.
But, for my “wild card” choice, why not FireFly (or sometimes called Firebug). Unexpected..and it would be cool and ironic if FireFly somehow leads to the creation of Mr. Freeze.