James Cameron Says ‘Avatar 4′ Would Be a Prequel; ‘Battle Angel’ Still Happening

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Sigourney Weaver mades waves when she announced that James Cameron plans to shoot three Avatar sequels as a single massive undertaking. However, producer Jon Landau recently clarified that the Avatar 4 will be filmed separate from its peers (assuming it is made at all).

Cameron has since revealed that a fourth Avatar movie (again, should it happen) would take on the form of a prequel to his original box office record-obliterating 3D sci-fi epic. Meanwhile, Landau’s playing down speculation that Cameron intends to spend the rest of his days making Avatar films – by suggesting that Cameron’s long-awaited Battle Angel/Battle Angel Alita adaptation will finally come to fruition once the Avatar trilogy has been finished.

MTV picked up the above-mentioned Avatar 4 tidbit during an interview with Cameron, who reiterated that he’s only working on the scripts for Avatar 2 and 3 at the moment. Cameron admitted he’s penning the sequel screenplays as “one big thing”; however, he has also mentioned in the past that new Avatar movies help to complete a three-part story arc set in motion by the original installment – focusing on the further adventures of Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) on Pandora, now that his consciousness has been permanently “locked down” into his Na’Vi avatar.

The filmmaker had the following to say, about a prospective Avatar prequel (ie. Avatar 4):

“I haven’t really put pen to paper on it, but basically it goes back to the early expeditions of Pandora, and kind of what went wrong with the humans and the Na’vi and what that was like to be an explorer and living in that world. Because when we drop in, even in the first film in ‘Avatar 1,’ as it will be known in the future, we’re dropping into a process that’s 35 years in to a whole colonization.”

Cameron made it known that he does not plan to follow in George Lucas’ footsteps with the Star Wars franchise – by producing three prequels to compliment his original blockbuster trilogy – rather, once the Avatar trilogy has been finished, “The only thing left to do is go back to see what it was like on those first expeditions [to Pandora] and create some new characters that then become legacy characters in later films. It’s a plan.”

james cameron battle angel alita James Cameron Says Avatar 4 Would Be a Prequel; Battle Angel Still Happening

Once Cameron is through exploring the Avatar universe, it sounds as though he plans to move onto other projects. Some five months ago, he made it known that a Battle Angel adaptation is something he still plans to tackle in the future – and Landau confirmed as much to MovieZine, saying:

“We’ll focus on ‘Avatar’ for the next four or five years. Hopefully right after that… I am confident you will see [a 'Battle Angel' movie].”

Many Battle Angel fans have been excited by the prospect of Cameron lending his technical prowess and storytelling abilities to a live-action adaptation, but have grown increasingly frustrated by the project’s lack of progress. Nonetheless, Landau indicated that both he and Cameron remain committed to seeing the film through:

“It’s one of my favorite stories, I think it is an incredible story, a journey of self-discovery of a young woman. It is a movie that begs the question: ‘What does it mean to be human? Are you human if you have a heart, are you human if you have a mind, are you human if you have a soul?’ And I look forward to bringing that film to audiences.”

The Avatar sequels are currently without concrete release dates, but Avatar 2 is expected to reach theaters by 2015.

More on Battle Angel as the story develops.

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Source: MovieZine, MTV

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  1. Stop making horrible movies James Cameron.

    • The next George Lucas anyone? The guy is not yet done with the two intended sequels, and he is already eyeing a prequel? Frankly, although the special effects were good in the first movie (thanks to his effects team), the story was lame. James, you are definitely not the “king of the world”, or even Hollywood, for that matter, although I know you probably think you are, because of the amount of money you make.

    • no doubt. Avatar was garbage…it succeeded in turning people into 3d loving sheep.

      • @The Ritty. You call Avatar garbage…But Avatar made the most money…EVER? lol I know Avatar is not really an original movie….But lets see you make an original movie :)

    • You shut your mouth, mister! You don’t speak to the king that way!

    • EXACTLY!

      Man, ‘Avatar’ is so sanctimonious and idiotic (the line regarding Earth, ‘we used to have a mother too..’) it’s beyond comprehension. I couldn’t finish it.

      I work in the meteorological field and for this blowhard to speak of AGW as a, ‘settled science’ and insult those of us, who are actually educated in the subject matter and who don’t bow to his lockstep enviro-ways.. I tire of tu*ds such as Cameron.

      Lucid, reasoning should ALWAYS be the cog, the aim in ANY discussion or discord. Eventually leading to an accord.

      Not emotional fulfillment sold as ‘fact’.

  2. By the time we get around to seeing Battle Angel it will be about 20 years since he started talking about it..

    • Guess he’s waiting for the right tech to put it together like he did with Avatar.

      • Good point Soul.

        However with the tech he has now and with what he did with Avatar a couple of years ago I’m sure he could make a Battle Angel film with current tech available.

  3. They seem desperate to pull a franchise out of Avatar. I’ll be surprised if any sequel every materializes, let alone a prequel.
    Can’t say I’m hugely bothered about seeing another one unless it has an original plot and ideas. The first film is nice enough but it doesn’t warrant a franchise.

  4. Nomatter how much you critisize James cameron , the no 1 and 2 movies in all time grossing are still there no matter how many avengers and superheroes came and gone( Titanic after 15 years is no 2 and Avatar after 3 years)and if still these are horrible movies then I guess most of people still prefer horrible movies

    • You got it. right on the nose. If it’s no at the BOX 6 times out of 10 it probably stinks.

  5. Considering how long it has been taking in between movies for Cameron, can anyone guarantee he will be alive for those later movies or this “Battle Angel”?

    • Seriously… he needs to get it done I would much rather see battle angel then another lame ass avatar

  6. Omg lol he is doing a prequel

  7. I spoke to James Cameron and he said, and I quote, “Haters gonna hate”!!! LOL!

  8. Unless they can come up with something that’s not Pocahontas for Avatar 2 and 3, I’m not really interested. What’s there left to do? To be honest these movies look more like beautiful animated nature documentaries rather than stories. They belong on 3D IMAX screens in science museums and the like.

  9. Personally, I think J Cameron is a genius and has accomplished a number of achievements that are undeniable under his singular vision.

    But all this talk about “Avatar” is simply … talk.

    Talk, talk , talk.

    He’s had Sigourney Weaver do a lot of his talking and now he’s got Landau picking up on all the TALK.

    Cameron seems to be more obsessed with the idea of Pandora and Avatar moreso than the general movie going audience.

    Come on James Cameron: Jake Sully is NOT Luke Skywalker. You can’t ” Force ” a generation of kids to accept Avatar the same way they accepted “Star Wars.” ( pun intended )

    • Number 2 movie of all time says other wise…

      • Most, if not all, of the accolades for Avatar have been attributed to its special effects, created by Cameron’s effects team, NOT its story, written by him.

      • No, your lack of knowledge says otherwise. lol

        What does ” Titanic ” have to do with this discussion? Because ” Titanic ” is the “number 2 movie of all time….”

    • Well considering he WASN’T talking about Avatar for 20ish years, the only reason we think he’s taking a long time is just because we’re actually aware of it now.

  10. Hey Jim, hows about throwing us a Terminator 5?

  11. I have a feeling Cameron is going to lose money on all the Avatar stuff. Time will tell. Either way these are rentals for me…..if that.

  12. My thoughts on Cameron planning and talking about the future of the Avatar franchise:
    http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/325/426/1ec.jpg
    ;)

  13. Eh…

  14. Avatar was a complete rip off of Dances With Wolves, and sorry people it was a bad rip off…

    • I say disneys pochontas.
      White invaders
      natives
      magic tree
      guy from invaders romances native girl
      gold/unobtainium

  15. This is just too much

  16. F**ck this…..

  17. Avatar was a cool movie but not a great movie to me it was all about the effects and i’m sure i’m not that alone in that department hopefully the next two Avatar movies will be better and more interesting. The story was just something that was so predictable and had been used so many times.

  18. I love how people hate on Avatar so much and say nobody cares, but they still take the time to comment on stories about it. Every story about Avatar beats the dead horse about it having an unoriginal/lame story and being all about the effects. Well, you don’t get nominated for Best Picture of the Year for being just about the effects. And besides, how many stories are really original now anyways? The overall story arcs of most movies have been done before in some way or another.

    No matter how much people rip on James Cameron, he’s always been successful with his films and will probably continue to be. He hasn’t made a bad movie since that Piranha one (I didn’t like Titanic, but I wouldn’t say it was a bad film), and there’s no reason to think it won’t be successful. He doesn’t make sequels just to cash in, otherwise he would have done Terminator 3.

    I’m not saying I’ll defend him no matter what he does, but I just don’t see the reason for all this hate.

    • The word “hate” may be too strong a word. Maybe the better word to use would be “disappointment.”

      I can’t speak for everyone on this thread, but as I wrote in my earlier post, I have an incredible amount of respect for James Cameron. Avatar was an excellent movie: it still stands as the highest grossing movie ever ( beating Cameron’s own ” Titanic ” and technically it pushed the envelope. It’ re introduced 3D cinema in our own digital age.

      But at the same time, if this thread is any indication, it’s disappointing that Cameron, with all his brilliance, intends to spend the next decade on a movie franchise that a lot of us really don’t care for.

      I’d be much more interested in Cameron moving on to other things, like Battle Angel Alita.

      • I understand what you’re saying, and my comment wasn’t directed at people legitimately expressing disappointment. I think it’s totally fine for someone to be disappointed that Cameron is making another 2 Avatars when they’d rather see him work on something else, and expressing it in a constructive way.

        I meant that of the numerous comments I’ve seen on stories about Avatar’s sequels, many of them were blatantly bashing Avatar and Cameron, and not really saying anything worthwhile. You don’t like Avatar, that’s fine, many others did and are looking forward to a sequel, so just saying that Avatar and Cameron suck doesn’t really contribute anything to the conversation.

        I like many of the comments on this site and I’d prefer it not to turn into a bunch of 13 year olds posting immature comments about things being lame and sucking, as if they could do better.

    • You have to take what a few dissenters on this site say about Avatar and Cameron in general with a grain of salt. It has grossed nearly 2.8 billion (that’s BILLION) 3x what TDKR made and almost 2x what Avengers made. It was also positively reviewed by both critics and movie goers alike (nearly as high as TDKR for those keeping track ;) ) and I bet ALL of the haters still went and saw it (I don’t care what reasons you try and give to downplay it, the fact is you DID go as see it). So Cameron is doing something right. :)

      And while I would like for him to do other things, I admit I also want to see Pandora again just to see what he can do with the underwater side of the things. It’s his life and if he just upped and quit the industry tomorrow that would be his choice. I think he has earned the right to do whatever in the hell he wants.

      • I agree with your comment, especially the part about liking him to do other things, but at the same time wanting to see what else can be done with Pandora.

        And I even kind of liked that he had a positive message about the environment but wasn’t too in your face about it, and wants to have a similar message with the second one.

    • Pyronaut,

      The ONLY addendum you provided was a limp-wristed comment/ support regarding the ATROCIOUS Academy. So apparently the Academy apparatchik-like judges ‘know all’ regarding movies? Please.

      The RnR HoF ‘judges’ have Neil Diamond and Dr. John on the recent RnR HoF ballot of nominees whereas Iron Maiden, RUSH, Deep Purple, Judas Priest etc., CONTINUE to get snubbed altogether.

      As for ‘original story lines, plots’ – look further than the typical Hollywood leads, directors for ‘new plot’ type movies.

      Cameron has added NOTHING worthy to watch, either through its entirety nor worth watching twice since, ‘True Lies’ from ~ 18 years ago.

      ‘Ghosts of the Abyss’ – apparently Cameron wanted to ‘prove’ there are mirrors, dishes on the bottom of the sea, Bill Paxton for WHAT reason I don’t know was part of this ‘fact-finding mission’ and yes, people had indeed died on the Titanic.

      Wow.. ‘thanks’ for the information, Mr. Cameron!

      • While I definitely don’t feel as strongly about Camaron’s work as you do (Avatar, despite its unoriginal story, was certainly “worth” watching – the visual effects were revolutionary, and that’s not something that people can argue with… and then there’s The Terminator movies), I do agree that The Academy shouldn’t be used as a reference anymore.

        The day movies like The Dark Knight and Inception started getting snubbed for normal, run-of-the-mill dramas was the day their opinion stopped meaning something to me.

        The Academy used to know a thing or two about cinema and the people who watch movies (back when they gave out awards for movies like the LotR), but in recent years they’ve proven to be nothing but a bunch of old, pretentious hacks who’ve lost sight of what the MOVIES really are… IMO.

        (I’m not saying that all the films that win awards these days aren’t worthy of the awards, but most of them certainly aren’t)

        • I wasn’t saying that the Academy is the be all and end all for judging movies. Heck, I usually don’t agree with their choices for best picture.

          What I was saying that if it gets nominated for Best Picture, that means *something* about the story and how the movie told it, and that it wasn’t just an effects film – otherwise, it would just be nominated for its effects.

          It’s funny how the same argument could be made either way. If critics don’t like a movie you like, then they’re just film snobs and don’t know what they’re talking about. If they like a movie you don’t like, then they’re film snobs and don’t know what they’re talking about. In the end though, it could be the same film, and your criticism of them is based on the fact that their taste differs from yours.

      • I never really understood people’s problem with Avatar…

        Pocahontas DID NOT have 3D spaceships, flying monsters and machine guns.
        And John Smith DID NOT have an indian avatar. So what is the problem with taking an original story and making it 10x better (or just cooler)?

        And what the hell is Battle Angel? Why should I care if Cameron is directing it or not? and if you care so much, why dont you direct it?

  19. If James Cameron had directed Green Lantern, I definitely believe the results would have been different. Cameron is just one of only a few good directors left in Hollywood IMO.

  20. Yay, Go James!

    I don’t care what he makes so long as he makes movies.

    I’m soooo sick of Remakes and reboots that I’ll take prequels and sequels any day.

    If you don’t like Avatar, then save your money and go watch something like the Elm Street remake, Total recall remake or something else rebooted or remade. It’s fine with me and leaves more room in the cinema. :-P

    • You don’t care what he makes.. IOW you voluntarily cast yourself as blind devotee to the Cameron Cause. Quality be darned!

  21. Avatar was crap.

  22. I find it funny that people harp on Cameron for being unoriginal then turn around and repeat criticisms they’ve read on a hundred different forum threads. How many times am I gonna read “Smurfs”, “Pocahontas”, “Ferngully”, “Dances With Wolves”, “George Lucas Jr.” under anything article concerning James Cameron? No one here originated any of those comments. Who’s not being original?

    That said, I actually enjoyed Avatar for what it was, however, I don’t need a sequel. At least not anytime soon. Bring on Battle Angel already. If not, produce it and put it in a capable director’s hands. That story is amazing.

  23. People repeat the criticism because it’s true. Avatar was a waste of my life to see. Now Cameron is pushing digital cinema along with G. Lucas, and the quality is suffering. It’s ironic that two horrible directors are responsible for bringing about the demise of Film (in more senses than one).

    • I do see some validity in the criticisms, but that’s beside the point. It’s just funny to see people being unoriginal while criticizing another’s lack of originality.

  24. Patrick,

    Since you dislike James and George’s films so much, here’s a selection of alternative films from various genres for you to watch;

    Alexander: Director’s Cut (2004)
    Father and Son (Otets i syn) (2003)
    Ice Twisters (2009)
    Lemony Snicket’s A Series of Unfortunate Events (2004)
    Never Been Kissed (1999)
    Pearl Harbour (2001)

    Drama, Foreign, Disaster, Fantasy, Romance, War.
    Whatever floats your boat.

    These were all fairly popular films in their day but I’m guessing that most people would rather watch Avatar. Which is the bigger “waste of your life?”

    • lol the alexander movie was such a let down….

  25. An Avatar prequel, Oh Boy. Maybe Cameron can do a Titanic prequel and maybe everyone can send him the price of admission before the films are released.

  26. Gavin,

    But those movies are all rubbish, in my book (or I’ve never seen them). I’m not clear on your intent though. Are you saying that since Avatar may be better than those selections, then Avatar must be a good movie? I don’t think relative quality is a good gauge of whether a movie is good or not. I’d just rather not watch any of those movies.

    I went to see Avatar without any preconceived notions, and I – like most people – just went to see the spectacle of 3D. I was sorely disappointed, however to only find a somewhat blurry, jittery 3D Pocahontas (yes, it’s true) with blue people. This was what James Cameron’s life work was leading up to?

    I wouldn’t care to comment on the movie it it was an inert movie, so far as the industry is concerned. However, it is Avatar that has forced many theaters into the gimmick of 3D and, consequently, digital projection (George Lucas helped with his pathetic excuse for a decent Star Wars II). Now everything is going digital, and the image quality is inferior. It’s just upsetting that one or two directors can have so much sway in the industry for the worse when so many acknowledge that their movies are not the greatest.

    This is just my opinion, and I realize that others may disagree. It’s not so much just a movie issue to me, either. Every art-form is being cheapened and commercialized to provide sensory stimulus for the masses (aka 3D).

    • Thanks Patrick for your clear, concise and well reasoned comment.

      I echo your sentiment.

    • I would say 3D is a damn gimmick also, but I would not say watching a movie full of crazy special effects is using 3D as a gimmick. Transformers was shot in 3D and it looked great(regardless if u liked it or not.) Prometheus was also shot (some parts)in 3D and looked great. Avatar was not shot in 3D….and it ended up looking like crap. I liked the movie, but NOT in 3D convert. Its the converts that are crap. Now, looking back at the Year of Avatar…I can’t really remember many other great movies coming out. lets see, Star Trek, Inglorious Basterds, Watchmen. Wolverine sucked, Harry Potter was always crap on my list, Transformers to was a bit of a let down to me, I was foced to watch the movie “Up” and fell asleep….I did enjoy Fantastic Mr. Fox. I can’t believe I watched Paranormal Activity. thats so much more but, I would say Avatar was better than most of these movies of 2009.

      • *Transformers 2- let down.

  27. My point was that it would be easy to watch Star Wars 4 & 5, Terminator 1, 2, The Dark Knight, and perhaps a handful of other “approved movies” over and over again and say that everything else is rubbish.

    People who whine about movie x being “the worst movie ever” are usually (IMHO) very inexperienced in terms of sprawling cinema taste.

    The movies in my list weren’t great with Rotten Tomato ratings of 16-71%. I could have chosen only 100% films (Taxi to the Dark Side (2007), This Is Not a Film (2011), The Interrupters (2011), Waste Land (2010) with the same results. Avatar is infinitely more watchable that higher-scoring “better” films of today).

    Personally, I prefer the Star Wars prequels to Citizen Kane – and I have seen it, I just wouldn’t want to watch it again.

    It’s all relative. My kids certainly liked Avatar and the SW Prequels.

    • The SW prequels to Citizen Kane. Riiight.

  28. Avatar was one of the worst films I have ever seen, it was painfully bad. Cameron truly is the next Lucas.

  29. To all you posters hating on Cameron and George Lucas,two of the biggest film makers of ALL-TIME, I’m sorry for you but you’re in the minority,The Star Wars Saga is still one of biggest franchises of all time even to this day and if you think the movies box-numbers was a fluke for fans wanting a new Star Wars movie at the time then look at the record breaking sales of THE COMPLETE SAGA on Blu-Ray or the box office numbers for the re-release in 3-D of Titanic.So you can rant and hate all you want but numbers don’t lie and Lucas and Cameron are super successful and there is nothing you have done or can do about it so just deal with people.

    • …so just deal WITH IT PEOPLE.