‘Insidious: Chapter 2′ Spoilers Discussion

Published 1 year ago by , Updated September 18th, 2013 at 2:47 pm,

Insidious 2 Directed by James Wan Insidious: Chapter 2 Spoilers Discussion

While people are already chatting away in our Insidious: Chapter 2 review thread, this is the place where you can disucss James Wan’s horror movie sequel in full detail – all the plot twists, spoilers, time-travel and opinions on the ending – without have to get grief for SPOILING the movie for others.

Assume that everyone in this discussion thread has seen Insidious: Chapter 2. If you haven’t seen the film, you are definitely in the wrong place, because MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW!!!!

With that warning in mind, feel free to hop down to the comments and discuss Insidious 2 with other fans – and rate the movie for yourself in our poll below:

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Insidious: Chapter 2 is now in theaters. It is 105 minutes and is Rated PG-13 for intense sequences of terror and violence, and thematic elements.

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  1. Is it me or is it weird that the moment before Carl makes josh and his son forget, he said “mr Lambert “instead of josh. I reckon this “Carl” is no Carl anymore, the real Carl is still stuck in the other side. When he makes Josh and his son fall asleep, they went back to the other side too and some other spirit takes their body. That led to the end when Elise saw Josh, his son and Carl standing in front of her eyes asking for help. Looking forwards to chapter three :)

    • in the part of insidious 1 and chapter 2 where a man is always visiting baby Cally
      Could this be the father of Parker Crane or the Lipstick Faced Demon or another Powerful Ghost in The Further??
      anyways here’s a short script about Insidious chapter 3 and i really hope you liked it! :D

      INSIDIOUS CHAPTER 3

      Actors/Actresses:
      Alison’s Father – “John”
      Alison’s Mother – “Lea”
      Alison’s Sister – “Anne”
      - Tucker
      - Specs
      - Elise

      Part 1 – The Attack
      A loud noise had awakened the whole family in their house.
      John had traced the noise and it leads in the Kitchen.
      John came inside and found the whole Kitchen’s trashed.
      This is the third time the house has been attacked and vandalized, and the whole family had enough and decided to move into a new house.In the Morning, before the family is leaving Alison checked her room to be sure that anything will not be left after they move but instead she saw a boy (Dalton) being hurried to the hospital with her Mom (Renai) and Dad (Josh) and she also saw a kid (Young Parker Crane) at the window of their house but she did not mind it and went back to her business.

      Part 2 – Alison’s Dream
      while on the trip.. Alison dreamed about a world where everything is dark and timeless
      she walked around and then finally saw a house but as she moved, she heard very loud gun shots,
      And then she woke up and her father told them that they finally arrived to their new home.
      but it was not an ordinary home it looked like it was made from the 80′s.

      Part 3 – “It Was an not an Accident!..”
      The Family Went inside their new house
      everything was quite perfect.A Sofa,a small table and a simple chandelier-like lights hanging in the ceiling both in the Kitchen and in the Living room.
      Anne went into her new room and so is Alison.
      her room is quite like an office.There is a row of books in the wall and an office table in the corner.
      Alison checked the books and touched one of them but she had cut herself and she found out that there is a pocket knife inside a book that she had touched.
      she heard someone came in her room.she also heard running footsteps.she turned back to see who it was.she saw something unusual.. a trail of shoe marks leading to her..
      she turned back and saw the shoe marks stopped at the row of books.
      she investigated to see what it caused the shoe marks.
      then screws turning and squeaking.Alison saw an eye to one of the books.she became nervous.then the eye blinked.Alison is scared.then the top books are falling onto her and she fell down.
      as soon as she fell down, the row of books fell onto her feet and cause so much pain to Alison.
      John,Lea and Anne heard what happened and rushed to see what happened then they saw Alison crying on the floor and her feet is stuck in the piles of books and wood.
      Alison! What happened?!?” cried Lea.Then they helped her remove the piles off her.
      But Anne had a strange feeling about the room and she saw a lady and a Man at the corner of the room,walking backwards into a dark corner then suddenly disappeared..
      “IT WAS NOT AN ACCIDENT!!” Shouted Alison.

      and that’s what I think of why is Alison is in a wheelchair and at the ending of Insidious chapter 2 wherein Specs told the parents (John and Lea) that Alison’s Accident was not an accident and Alison’s sister (Anne) can see ghosts because she can see Elise at the End.
      by that way I may add some of my theories about what’s going to happen in Insidious chapter 3..
      i hope you like the story! :D

      • By the way the names of the characters in my story are not real and only made for the story..
        :D

  2. One of the signs of a good film is that you want to watch it again.I want to watch this film again! I have read all the comments and I agree about all of your theories. I think Parkers mum was always mad, and as one person wrote, she was the lady in the first film who murdered and shot the family. Maybe it was her wn family and she was the daughter? Anyway she was always mad. Parker may not have been her real son, she may have stolen him to force him to be her daughter. He was in a mental institution for trying to castrate himself so I think he was abused by her really badly and that he could never say no to her. He killed for her because she could possess the lives and feed off them some how. Would love to know more about their history as he was a normal boy as a child and tried to stick up for himself before she slapped him. Maybe the mother took the body of the boy and killed him, which explains why the young Parker was in the Further, maybe the mad mother was the one who was killing while in Parkers body and she had to keep killing to stay in the real world?
    Loved the concept of astral projection and the time travel.
    Anyway I loved how this film kept going back to the first one and how it tied up to when he was a child. Brilliant thinking and detail placed in the scenes and excellent direction to get it spot on! This is fast becoming my favourite film sequel ever and I hope there are more chapters to come.

  3. Wow. Just wow. First I thought that the ending just opened up for a completely different story line involving the spirit chaser guys, but then i came here and oh wow my mind is running in all sorts of directions. They better be making a chapter 3 is all i have to say.

  4. Does anyone else think that the spirit that Elise sees at the end of insidious 2 is actually the baby Kelly.

    • I do! There’s a moment when we don’t know where she is, when parker mom’s ghost atacks Renai, so we don’t know exactly what happened when the ghost took her… then close to the ending Renai took her to a friend while they confront possesed Josh and we don’t see her again till movies end when Josh and Dalton get their memories erased…
      Now what make me believe that it was the little child what Elise saw, is that after she freaks out, right in the moment when the “INSIDIOUS” word appears on screen, I swear I hear a babys cry… Don’t know if it’s just me or it’s the way the “Insidious” freaking song is supossed to sound, but that’s what I thought when I heard it, (and rewinded the video to be sure)…

      Plus, what gave me the major hint was the menu screen (I saw it on Blu-ray)
      The menu has a picture as wallpaper showing the baby kelly in front of a wall and her shadow, but her shadow isn’t her, the shadow she reflects it’s the one of parker’s mom!

      But again this es weird! because we saw Elise almost decapitating that ghost… but again… can a ghost be killed like that._.?

      Well we’ll have to wait!

    • I think it is the red monster from the first movie.

  5. Well I guess I will give up what I have. The baby came up missing right before the mother was knocked out by Parker’s brother. A demon was repeating he has your baby in the Further. A lot of people were unconscious in this movie so there’s no telling who’s still in The Further.

  6. Well in insidious every time you heard the cracking you would see the demon with hooves. At the end of insidious 2 you heard the same cracking sound as when the door was open

  7. I think possessed josh had to kill to stay you because it would stain the very nature of Josh’s body an would no longer make it fit for Josh’s actual soul. At the moment cranes soul was twisting Josh’s body because it wasn’t alive and also it wasn’t good. Everything that the real josh is. And I think Parker’s soul showed up only because it was te memory and puppet of the mothers spirit in the further. So in other words the mothers crazy rage created an echo of what she turned her son into. And that trauma allowed the further to remember the evilness that occurred and it seems like the further is a way to intentionally or perhaps unintentionally help save or put to rest these disturbed individuals. just my theories and thoughts. I like to use my imagination and I like to think about interesting plots like this one. I think everything in this world was created spiritually for a reason.

  8. I think possessed josh had to kill to stay you because it would stain the very nature of Josh’s body an would no longer make it fit for Josh’s actual soul. At the moment cranes soul was twisting Josh’s body because it wasn’t alive and also it wasn’t good. Everything that the real josh is. And I think Parker’s soul showed up only because it was te memory and puppet of the mothers spirit in the further. So in other words the mothers crazy rage created an echo of what she turned her son into. And that trauma allowed the further to remember the evilness that occurred and it seems like the further is a way to intentionally or perhaps unintentionally help save or put to rest these disturbed individuals. just my theories and thoughts. I like to use my imagination and I like to think about interesting plots like this one. I think everything in this world was created spiritually for a reason.

  9. That wouldn’t quite add up because the bride in black was Parker in real life killing people because his mom made him. I don’t like mixing a tv shows idea with a movie, but in Supernatural there were these things called death echoes that were ghosts reliving their deaths as ghosts and it was rare to snap out of it. Perhaps what we were seeing was an echo (not a death echo though) from the mothers point of view in the old house. That’s why the boy said “she would make me kill you” the mother’s ghost was running the show. And the boy wasn’t really parker, just an echo, a memory, or a slave to whatever the mother wanted or reliving the torment she put her son through because she produced so much evil in her lifetime and was that disturbed. she runs her old house as a ghost and relives her memories much like the ghost family we saw in the further in the first movie. Also I don’t know how so many people didn’t pick up on the red faced demon being what Elise saw in the end of the Chapter 2. Haha

  10. Oh and can someone confirm this for me. When Lorraine was in the elevator and saw Parker, that was his ghost projecting from the further right? That’s why he didn’t reply. I had a few other ideas, but I kinda don’t think they add up as much.

  11. At the point in the movie where Lorein, Josh’s mom, first comes into contact with Specs and the other guy, at Elise’s house, there is a painting on the wall behind them to the right. The painting resembles the red lipstick face demon. I don’t know if this is an easter egg, or something actually tied to the story, but I found it interesting. I checked around the internet to see if anyone else has noticed this, but I couldn’t find a thing.

  12. Also, another thing I wanted to discuss was the ending of Chapter 2 and how many people speculate it to be the red-faced demon that Elise saw at the end. I have heard a few theories that the red-faced demon is Parker Crane’s dad…. Well I was kind of thinking that the red-faced demon is Parker, or at least what he had become when the memories of his mother were destroyed. What do you all think?

  13. Why are the bodies in the hidden room behind the bookshelf sitting up and not badly decomposed ? Were they murdered recently ? If they were, how could the old Parker be strong enough to subdue them ? If they were murdered long time ago, assuming from the old newspaper cuttings, why aren’t the bodies just skeletons and bones ? Did Parker preserve them ?

  14. Why are the bodies in the hidden room behind the bookshelf sitting up and not badly decomposed ? Were they murdered recently ? If they were, how could the old Parker be strong enough to subdue them ? If they were murdered long time ago, assuming from the old newspaper cuttings, why aren’t the bodies just skeletons and bones ? Did Parker preserve them ?

    And what did Renai see in the camera from the end of the first movie ? Parker or Josh ?

  15. I have this idea…

    So we don’t see Parker’s mother in real life after the incident when the baby goes missing for awhile, only in Parker’s memories. So I think that the mother somehow forced herself into the baby’s body and sent the baby’s soul to the further. At the end then, when Elise sees something behind Allison, it’s the red faced demon with the baby. However, I don’t think that the demon means to harm the baby. In the first insidious, he keeps the son tied up, but he never actively hurts him. And since he wouldn’t have been about to find his way back anyway, the demon is helping him by keeping him from the other spirits who would and have tried to tear him apart.

  16. when josh barged into his own house and saved his daughter from the evil spirit,who was real josh at that moment??

  17. I believe my theory is corrected but my brother does not agree. We both recently watched chapters one and two. In chapter one, is the real Josh in the further world break open his door and set off his own house alarm? In chapter 2, Josh breaks into his own house in the further world followed by the same events. Are these related?

  18. Considering the following scenes in Insidious I when:

    (1) Lorraine is telling Josh and Renai about her dream with the red face demon standing in the corner of Dalton’s room.

    (2) Elise walks into Dalton’s room and starts describing how the red-faced demon looks while staring into the pitched part of the ceiling

    (3) The creepy creaking noise that occurs whenever the red-faced demon is near.

    I think these all indicate that what Elise sees at the end of Insidious II is indeed the same red-faced demon. Particularly that distinct creaking sound and the fact she’s staring right into the corner ceiling of the house Allison is in at the end.

  19. I definitely believe that what Elise saw at the end was the red-faced demon from Insidious I. I guessed this by the creeky clicky sound that it made, that was heard previously in the first film. Is there going to be an Insidous 3??

  20. When I was around 16 I ran a book called LifeForces. It’s about real magic and astral projection was listed in the book. Very creepy stuff. There is a ritual you should do the first time you try it. Part of the ritual is you reach out to something that it too far to reach to if you are sleeping in your bed and you move that object, then when you wake up you would know it was real and knowing it was real will make it easier for you.

    I used to have friends who would say they could do it. Many of the things they said in the movie is what they told me.

    Never talk to anyone
    Don’t try and fight anyone. You will lose and if you lose that spirit will know where you are.
    Only leave your body and stay within 6 feet or you will get lost.
    Try a rope around yourself to get back
    If you travel too far you will release claim to yourself.

    The object I picked was my fan. It was too far above my bed for me to reach if I was laying down. I started to move the blades around and around. I felt my entire body starting to tingle, like your foot if it starts to fall asleep. I snapped out of the trance. I jumped out of bed and turned my light on. The fan was moving.
    This movie creeps me out like no other.
    I don’t know if there is a red door or you can time travel, but I know it’s real and you can change your image.