First off, we want to let you know that the official Star Trek movie site has been updated to one of those fancy Flash websites. You can view both the trailers, get images, wallpapers and just geek out over the new Trek look of the site. Head over to StarTrekMovie.com to check it all out.
But… that’s not what this post is all about. If nothing else, Star Trek fans are known for their rabid attention to detail when it comes all things tech and history of the Trek universe. I won’t be addressing history, but I’ve pulled out some hi-res screen grabs from the trailer that will be of interest to Trekkies of all ages.
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I’ve collected below images of ships, interiors and visual effects (enhanced and sharpened for better detail) that are near and dear to the hearts of any true Trekkie (I’m reveling in this, being a huge Trek geek myself, so don’t go getting all offended). I’m sure there will be debate (argument) over what’s below. 
Included are:
- The venerable USS Enterprise NCC-1701 under construction (yes on Earth, not in orbit as we all know is where it was really constructed).
- What looks to be either the new standard shuttlecraft for the Enterprise, or a larger transport version.
- A brand new transporter effect for the first time in 20 years (all transporter effects in the movies and TV series starting with Star Trek: The Next Generation have been variations on the same basic look).
- A brand new “Warp speed” (aka “jumping into subspace”) effect. Personally I never liked the little starburst effect that’s been used since ST:TNG.
- A look at a couple of shuttlecraft that are similar in look to the familiar design from the original series.
- A look at the shiny-bright new corriders of the Enterprise (this, I’m not too jazzed about - very “2001: A Space Odyssey“).
- A shot of the forward bridge, from the point of view of the Captain’s chair (coming out of Warp).
- A couple of detailed shots of the USS Kelvin, including a rear view that shows the shuttlebay door and clarifies that the seconday hull is above the saucer section and the propulsion unit is below (a hat tip to early starship concept designs from the original series).
- Finally, a more iconic view of the new Enterprise.
Click on all of the images below to see hi-res versions of the images. Under each I give a description and an analysis by a Star Trek fan whose been a Trekkie since the early 1970s (that would be me) and whose favorite series of all is TOS (The Original Series).
Here’s a pretty cool shot of the Enterprise under construction. Doesn’t make sense that they would construct something so massive on the ground, but no dobut there is some sort of plot-related reason for it (beyond the dramatic pause of a young Kirk taking it in).
As a hardcore classic Star Trek fan, does this bother me? No.
From the registration number on the side of the shuttlecraft it’s clear it belongs to the Enterprise (NCC-1701), but is this the new “standard” shuttlecraft or does the Enterprise have a variety of models (a la ST:TNG)?
Does it bother me? A twinge perhaps, but not enough to freak me out.
Here’s the new transporter effect - kind of crazy looking and hard to really get a feel for in a static image, but I’m happy to see a new take on the effect.
Does it bother me? Nope.
This was long overdue - I never liked the “rubber band stretch to a pinpoint of light” version of going to Warp speed. This looks more like distortion of space.
Does it bother me? No, quite the opposite, I like it.
It looks like these are old-style shuttlecraft. I get the feeling that these belong to the USS Kelvin, and that ship is more akin to the original NCC-1701 and that the new Enterprise is more like the NCC-1701A.
Does it bother me? A bit - I’d like to see a bit more basic version of the original Enterprise, and despite the odd design the Kelvin reminds me a lot of the “flavor” of the original Enterprise.
Here’s the a look at the new corridors of the Enterprise. They’ve gone with a stark white look that truly reminds me of the ship from 2001: A Space Odyssey.
Does it bother me? Well, frankly, yes. Enough for me to feel “Trekkie outrage?” No, not that much. Look at what they did with the Batman reboot and that worked out pretty well.
Although we have the white “iBridge” look, overall the stations are similar (albeit a lot more spacious) to the layout we’ve known on all iterations of the Enterprise.
Does it bother me? Once I get past the “white bridge” look, no. Although I still don’t understand why they couldn’t at least have matched the color scheme of the original bridge or come close to it.
The USS Kelvin. I’m not familiar enough with the history of starship registries to know if this was from canon, but I have to say that I like the nod to the original designs here.
Does it bother me? Nope, as a matter of fact I really like it.
Another look at the USS Kelvin. Check out the shuttlebay entrance in the top portion of the ship and the impulse engines.
Does it bother me? No, again, this is one of my more favorite details and seems very much a tribute to the orginal.
Here we have a front-on view of the new Enterprise. Suddenly it looks a hell of a lot more like it belongs in the Star Trek universe than it did in the previous image.
Does it bother me? This remains to be seen. I’m still pulling at the reins when it comes to the new ship, but I’m thinking that it probably looks great on screen. This is where they’ve taken the greatest liberties, but in the end if it all gels it will have been worth it I think.
So what do you think? Anathema to established Trek lore or logical updates to bring the franchise into the 21st century?
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I’ll have to tell my girlfriend to remind me to wear my sunglasses when I see the movie. Whew! Those corridors are bright! I would hate to be the crewmen (and women) who have to keep them all polished. Talk about a thankless job.
I served on a US Navy ship in San Diego, and although our corridors were clean and buffed…they were never like the ones seen in the trailer.
they overdid it with the corridors, it doesn’t feel real and or classic in terms of the trek universe.
The ship looks alright but it looks like its from the TNG era now.
daviedave_47 said,”remind me to wear my sunglasses when I see the movie.”
Gotta agree with you there and it definitely would be a thankless job. Maybe in the future, they just somehow paint over everything every day?? Instead of scrubbing bubbles they have scrubbing bugs.
On that shuttle Vic, is that 1701 with a federation symbol behind it or an “A?”
Vic
I see this as an origin story.
Things can change in future installments .
I think The symbol on the the shuttle is the starfleet insignia.
I think Nimoy is in the trailer
Its the scene where young Spock comes out of the cave he is in the background.
I wish somebody could blow up the images of the other Vulcans coming out of the cave.
Vic, your a saint!
I can’t think of a film I’ve anticipated more!
Thanks
I say, more logical updates to make the Star Trek universe more self-consistent. Despite all the geekery around the franchise, of all series, I’ve found Star Trek to be the most illogical and inconsistent among the big sci-fi franchises in how it applies it own rules of physics.
I recall a quote by Ronald D. Moore (one of the main writers for DS9 and the creator of the new Battlestar Galactica) who noted rather astutely that given the power of a hand phaser, battles between ground forces within visible sight of each other would be impossible.
When you have weapons that deliver more destructive power than 2000 lb. bunker-busting bombs of today, it seems incredibly silly that Star Trek would have “pitched” phaser battles with forces hiding behind corners and rocks just meters away from each other. Any “real” person with such a weapon would set it on maximum, and the first shot would literally vaporize all opponents within range in an instant. At the very least, you could superheat the air in an area to the point where everyone in an area (hiding behind rocks or no) would be burned alive.
Yet one of the most reliable action pieces in the post-TOS series were pitched phaser battles that pretended to be long drawn out affairs where the outcome was in doubt.
Basically, this was just a symptom of what really ailed Trek. The technobabble became the driving force for nearly all the stories. All the drama and character development orbited around the technobabble or technoconundrum of the week. But when you keep on developing new technobabble and technowizardry to top last season, you get to the point where only a complete suspension of logic allows that universe to remain self-consistent. Because when everything gets too powerful (phasers), too easy (replicators), or too convenient (the plot resolution to nearly every episode), the only way that universe becomes believable is to break the law of self-consistency continuously.
Going back to the beginning, in the early days when the tech was limited is a good thing. That was the promise of Enterprise, but like all the series before it, Enterprise couldn’t resist the siren call of Ultimate Tech, e.g. the pseudo-drama of the Temporal Cold Wars where Archer and primitive friends were fighting beings who wielded a gazillion more times power than any other Trek enemy.
So here’s hoping that the new Trek movie more logically defines the limits and potential of Star Trek tech, and we get back to a futuristic, but still believable, universe.
Here’s what I see:
Money shot of the Enterprise being built, I think you pegged it Vic.
The adoption of the triangle emblem for all of Starfleet (ala TNG). And if thats a standard Shuttle, the Enterprises shuttle bay must be huge (or very cramped).
Very cool transporter effect, although it might make someone dizzy for a second.
Love the new jump to warp. That distortion field must make it impossible to sneak up on another ship!
Agreed; old style shuttles, that look like they’re trying to escape (no escape pods, very TOS).
The future’s so bright, I gotta where shades! And where’s the GNDN conduits!?
The console on the left is now the console on the right. Or is that the right on the left? Are they the same?
That distortion field is like a signal flare! HEY! We’re over HERE!!
A definite nod to the original starship designs. Especially the look of the secondary hull. What we might be seeing is the progression ship designs played out in TOS and TNG, only a generation, or two, earlier.
Not the same Enterprise, but she has really grown on me.
Just noticed this, but in the picture of the Kelvin from the rear (where you see the shuttle bay doors), it looks like the Kelvin is “upside down!”
Which means the warp nacelle is actually glowing blue in the back, like rocket or ion thrusters might look like. The standard impulse thrusters glow red like before, but the blue glow is definitely new.
That explains the turbine-like look of the warp nacelle from the front. Notice in the sneak preview trailer, in one of the scene of the Enterprise under construction, you can clearly see something like turbine blades slow rotating inside the nacelle.
This leads me to think that the new warp nacelles serve a dual purpose. They both generate warp fields for FTL travel but in sub-light mode, the nacelles are ionic thrusters. The nacelles are - more explicitly than in any previous starship design - Bussard collectors that magnetically suck up hydrogen gas in space for conventional ionic thrust propulsion….which explains the much more bulky designs of the nacelles on both Enterprise and Kelvin!
Thanks for going the extra mile, Vic! I know this took some time and effort, and that’s why I’m a Screen Rant Junkie!
Keep up the great work, my fellow carbon unit! :))
@ vitaboy;
Check out “Where No Man Has Gone Before”, the original version not the remastered. The Enterprise’s warp nacelles have open vents on the rear ends, no glow, but still possible thrust vents.
Hey Vic,
I totally agree on that iBridge thing.
Found this site on IMDb and I am grateful
looks good and is bookmarked
cheers
My hope is that everyone out there can move past absolute TOS and take this “New” movie for what it is worth… A reimagined version of the original “Idea”. A crew, ship and legend that all kinds of people from every part of the world fell in love with. Gene Roddenberry would be proud!
This movie is going to be fabulous indeed.
TRIVIA: Do you know?
OTHER THEN LEONARD NIMOY, WHO IS THE ONLY OTHER ACTOR TO BE IN BOTH STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE AND THE NEW STAR TREK.
The answer is backwardS below.
nahoodsirhc
“The technobabble became the driving force for nearly all the stories. All the drama and character development orbited around the technobabble or technoconundrum of the week.”
Blame ST:TNG for that big time. Sure, TOS had a bit of it, but TNG ramped the technobabble factor up to an art form.
@nowhereman
Thanks, my brutha.
@Sebastian
Thank you as well and welcome! Always happy to have a new “regular” on the site!
Vic
First, @Steven, it’s JAMES, not Chris…
As for the iBridge, yeah, it’a a bit funky but not without precedent in the Trek universe. Remember that the USS Excelsior in TSFS had a pretty bright bridge, too. Not quite as bright as the new Enterprise, but not the 60’s psychedelic color, either. Check it out.
http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=excelsiorbridgetsfsac6.jpg
Thanks for taking the time to do all this, Vic. It’s what make SR one of my favorite sites.
@ Andy S;
No, Steven was right. James Doohan can’t be in the new Star Trek; he is dead.
Chris Doohan is James Doohan’s (Scotty’s) son and he had an uncredited appearance in TMP with his father. He also lobbied to be cast as the new Scotty in the new Star Trek, but Paramount went with Simon Pegg instead. However, they did decide to give Chris another appearance on this Star Trek movie. I’m not sure of his role, though.
Also, Vic, this is the ONLY site I use for my real un-sugarcoated movie news. You are the best at what you do. Keep it up.
Hey, thanks bud - much appreciated. I just wish we had the resources to cover more movie news than we do.
Vic
@Lee…
Ah, I misread the post. I was thinking that both appeared in both TOS and TNG. My bad!!
In terms of art direction where it counts, the bridge, the corridors and the Enterprise do not feel like the future and do not feel like TOS.
The trailer seems to provide evidence that Orci, Kurtzman and JJ work with a bunch of stereotypes in their projects. I see 2001, Alien, Starship Troopers and Top Gun (Motorcycle at sunset with Take My Breath Away playing). Now, granted TOS was out before any of those but the Trek of late did not suffer from that feeling.
Wow. I am so missing the feeling of the TNG world. The pace really helped define what I though of as ‘Star Trek’ .
I thought Nimoy was playing Sarek? I thought Sarel really looked like Leonard Nimoy in the trailer?
Vic
New corridors - Too “iBridge”-ey
New Transporter effect (judged from still image, as my stupid dialup won’t play the Flash) - Looks too much like The Tasmanian Devil from the Warner Bros. cartoons; I half-expect Bugs Bunny to step into frame and go, “Nyehhh, where ya beamin’ off to, Doc?”
Great pics, Vic. As excited as I am for this film, I wish Paramount had given Trek this much love (and $) for the past movies.
Well, Paramount trusted Berman, Braga and crew despite the continuing decline of the franchise. Look at their reaction to Star Trek: Nemesis’ pathetic box office: It was the fans’ fault for not showing up.
It couldn’t possibly be that they made a movie that sucked, now could it?
Vic
This looks like it is going to be epic and certainly looks to me as if JJ Abrams and crew have done the impossible in making not only the Trekkers and Trekkies excited but also the people who wouldn’t normally go see the Trek brand..Great WORK!!
Vic-
you are truly a new Hero of mine. Nice job! i think the trailer looks great, im geeked up about it. and i actually dig the bright hallways. it looks like a whole new, updated take all the way around. and we all know kirk likes to bone, so the sexiness is not that out of place, as you have pointed out. nice job.
I can get over it, but I really don’t like the ship being built on the ground. That just makes no sense.
Is there some trick to get to the new startrekmovie.com? I keep getting sent to the old one with the original teaser playing on screen.
That first shot of Anakin, ehumm Kirk, on his hoverbike looking at the Enterprise being built is right out of “Top Gun,,,”
^
The hallways of the Enterprise look like the Rebel Blockade Runner, from Star Wars…
Where am I?
Watching hardcore fan reaction is going to be a generational event…
“Servers will fall!”. :-O
I bet trekmovie will crash under the weight of posts.
Go to http://startrekmovie.com and then try hitting Ctrl-F5 to clear the page cache and reload it fully.
Vic
I hate pretty much everything I’ve seen here except the new warp effect, which doesn’t bother me one way or another.
I will not be seeing this movie, and, though I know it’s not going to happen, I wish no one else would either.
I think nobody should be allowed to write a Star Trek script until they’ve read Fredric Brown’s “Arena”, seen Gene L. Coon’s Star Trek adaptation thereof, and explained in an essay why the ending of the latter is and must be 180 degrees different from that of the former.
I love the new look of the production. The ship, exteriors and interiors. The franchise needs a major kickstart for the next generation of fans and move it forward. Die hards like myself been awaiting for a fresh take on Star Trek. As Fans we need to sit back and enjoy the movie for what it will be. A new fresh start and introduction to the World of Trek to the many many moviegoers who are not fans but just want to come in and sit back and enjoy a really good movie without being put off by anal gripes about how white corridors are or who teh ship looks. Time to grow up people and not continually to gripe about things that are so trivial. And for my anal gripe, did anybody forget how white the corridors were in Princess Leias ship when Darth Vadar and the stormtroopers boarded her ship?Really cmon people, get a grip and lets just watch the movie and set aside the critisism when the movie is no longer playing in theatres. Give the Franchise room to breath people.
Just another fan..
I agree - While I actually really like TNG when it was on, thinking back it was WAY to politically correct and substituted a lot of committee-think for decisive action.
As to the white corriders - yes, we all know about the Star Wars thing… that’s our POINT.
Vic
@ Forrest; Actually that’s not a bad idea, but who would grade the SA and what grade is considered a go??
I am not a Trekkie, and I did not like the look of the original Enterprise. The 1701-2.0 looks better, though so does a star destroyer.
I was looking forward to seeing something of the original Star Trek on the big screen, not a tribute or a complete reimagining.
The Enterprise was twenty years old at the time of the original series, and it is reasonable to expect a completely new interior and some fairly radical exterior changes. Maybe the original was a little smaller, had a different deflector dish, bridge, et cetera. However, the 1701-2.0 is completely out of proportion with the 1701 and 1701-A. There is no reasonable way to line it up with the Enterprise of 20 years later. Nemesis and ST:Enterprise failed because they were advertised as something other than Star Trek. This movie’s complete disregard for the original series puts it in danger of doing the same thing.
I’m still going to see it because I like space movies, but I was really hoping to see a Star Trek movie.
~ RF
“Time to grow up people and not continually to gripe about things that are so trivial.”
Production design may only be frosting on the cake, but eggplant icing does not bode well.
“Time to grow up people and not continually to gripe about things that are so trivial.”
I have to agree with Forrest on this. These may be trivial to you, but for me they are a sign of things to come, especially considering who wrote this damned thing. This is the second Orci Kurtzman movie based on a franchise I love, and this is the second time I’ve seen a complete lack of respect for what has come before in the visuals alone. It does not bode well for the rest of the movie, especially considering how bad their previous movie was.
Going by the idea that past is prologue, I cannot say that there is any chance this movie will resemble anything even remotely like Star Trek. I didn’t get the feel of a this being a Star Trek story from the trailer, I don’t get the feeling of this being a Star Trek project from the pictures I’ve seen, and I don’t get the feeling the so-called writers even know what they’re doing based on their previous efforts.
The fact is, the visuals are the only solid evidence so far of the direction of this movie. That evidence shows, to me, a lack of respect for the franchise. The evidence shows, to me, that this is going in the wrong direction to be anything that deserves the name “Star Trek.”
Flamestrike, yes I agree there has been a lack of respect when it comes to the Bridge, Ship, and (imo) casting selections,,, but from what I’ve heard of the story, its gonna be a hit… Like it or not, this film will create a new fanbase and more than likely make 50% of the hardcore happy…
Love the larger gravatars Vic.
“from what I’ve heard of the story, its gonna be a hit”
With Orci & Kurtzman writing it, that cannot be a good thing.
I’m no fan of theirs either Flamestrike,,,
But from what I’ve seen its gonna be better than Transformers…
“its gonna be better than Transformers”
Like that’s hard to do.
Flame, I totally hear ya bro,,,
You gotta look at it this way,,,
Star Trek had a great run, we have TOS, TNG, DS9, Voy, and Enterprise,,,
Over 700 episodes, the next, Next Gen is about to take over. Its still Star Trek we just have to let it be…
If not, you and I both would just drive ourselves crazy with canon issues that don’t amount to really much ,,,
I’ve Learned to let Star Trek canon go,,, (lifes to short)
The new Trek will have to prove itself, or die…
I’m not going to give it a chance to prove itself. If Orci and Kurtzman are the ones to create the new version, it doesn’t stand a chance of being good. It might as well have been directed by Michael Bay as well.
I’d rather Star Trek just die, and as far as I’m concerned, it now has.
I was hoping to see a Star Trek movie, not a tribute to Star Trek movies. I understand that people change as they grow older, but the ship had better be consistent with the ship of the original series. If this ship is not corrected, then Abrams is not even trying. If he makes a Star Trek movie that fails, it could hurt Star Trek, but if all he is making is an Abrams movie with some Star Trek names and symbols, then Star Trek should be unaffected.
~ RF
flame, do you like anything that has a predecessor? reading your stuff, you hate everything thats not a exact copy of what was before it
Thanks for the post Vic, I’ve been a follower since I heard you over on /film.
Anyway, what is the core of Trek? The tech, the characters, the message? Most of the Trek films have been so-so. WOK, Undiscovered Country were great, and I do hold a spot for the Voyage home…but the still Trek has lost it’s glimmer that Gene put in the TOS. It needs a jump-start, reboot whatever. Think of it as a house project. You love you house, but you want to fix up a room that has layers and layers of wallpaper etc. So you remove the paper, sand, and repaint. The walls are new…but the frame is still there as before.
As for those who are thinking this is an outrage, or whatever I do recall the same Fan reaction to the NXT GEN when it was first announced, “what trek without kirk, preposterous!” or DS9. Heck the same was said for R. Moore take on BDG but look at how well that series has done.
This film is chance to regain that hope that Gene first instilled in trek, and from what I have heard about the story it is very character driven…something that Trek has not had in some time.
I’m hopeful that it will bring back trek to forefront, not to mention this is something that I can be apart of with my kids, as my parents were with the TOS-films.
Now if only Lucas would keel over and the same overhaul be done with Star Wars :).
“flame, do you like anything that has a predecessor? reading your stuff, you hate everything thats not a exact copy of what was before it”
To quote myself: “Anyone who believes that’s I was asking for an exact recreation is, at worst, a complete idiot, and at best has not been paying attention and has no idea what he’s talking about.” In other words, learn to read.
I want to see the original series respected and, at the very least, a visual continuity maintained. This is such an abrupt departure from the visual aesthetic of what was established in the original Trek that it doesn’t even feel like I’m looking at anything Star Trek related, and certainly nothing from the relevant era. Updates can be made while still respecting the original work. For example, you increase the detail on the model of the ship while still keeping the same design. You can keep the same color scheme and bridge layout, while updating the control panels.
None of that would impact the story, and all of it would give long time fans some reason to believe the people making the movie knew what they were doing when they took on the Star Trek project.
There is a huge difference between saying I hate the direction this project has taken, and saying that I want an exact recreation. Maybe, if you paid closer attention to what I said, you’d have picked up on that.
None of that, incidentally, addresses my other big problem with this movie: the so-called writers.
I certainly understand your trepidation based on Orci/Kurtzman. I’m of the opinion that at this point almost ANYONE is better for the franchise than Berman & Braga.
I’m really trying to keep an open mind about this just out of love of Trek. Personally (and I’ve said this before) I think going back to the beginning and doing a “Batman Begins” style reboot is a great idea if executed correctly.
I’ll tell you the one thing I’ve heard that doesn’t sit well with me at ALL: Pete over at /Film wrote that his impression of the “swelled hands/tounge” scene shown in the press preview was reminiscent of the scene where the Transformers hide in the back yard in that movie.
That was one of the things I absolutely despised in Transformers and to hear ANY scene in the new Trek movie called “equivalent” to that makes me shudder…
Vic
Toastbutter said; “it is very character driven…something that Trek has not had in some time.”
Can you amplify on what you mean by that? It seems to me that all the movies are character driven. All characters have goals and aspirations and drive the stories from beginning to end. I just don’t get that, I guess..
Well to be fair TOS had its embarrassing quirks. Maybe old fans can take one on the chin and hope for a better one next time…. In twenty years.
Toastbutter,
The 1701-D was a different ship from the 1701. DS9 was a space station. Of course they look different. The 1701 of 20 years before the original series is supposed to be the same ship. Differences in detail are to be expected, but Abrams take is the equivalent of doing a movie about the War of 1812 and making the USS Constitution out of titanium alloy because it looks cooler. I think the new Enterprise looks better than most of the others, but it does not look like what it is supposed to be. I wish Abrams had focused on the characters rather than mucking around with the hardware. Hardware is not what makes the story.
Star Trek movies should be consistent with Star Trek. Otherwise, start a new franchise.
~ RF
That sucks about that scene Vic - I hope it aint really that bad.
Let’s hope so Rob it was a totaly over the top CGI…
And there’s still time to fix it.
Like Vic said it was a Transformers moment for sure.
I’d settle for consistent visual aesthetic. There’s a mismatch between the interior and exterior design. The various TV shows and movies have parity — if you were to drag the sets of any given ship out onto the exterior hull the sets would look of a piece. Not so here; the inside is ipodized, but the outside isn’t. (A glossy white Enterprise would not only fit the interiors but be more compatible with the original.)
My entire beef with this has to do with being faithful to the original series. Is there anything wrong with a new Trek? No, it’s time for something new, and certainly more exciting. Okay, Okay, I know the younger generation likes a lot of sexual scenes, so yes, add more nudity and sex to Trek. Then you’ll have a completely new movie.
But, did they have to rape from the original series to build their new one? Why use the original crew, and the name of their ship? As advanced as this new ships technology is, they could have created a setting well after the Next Generation era.
What was wrong with creating a new captian of a new starship, with its own unique name? I would have loved it had they done that. But using original series legends to create their own universre, as the expense of 40 years of traditional fans (WHO ARE STILL AROUND AND QUITE ACTIVE) is not good.
Lastly, I’ve said it many times, and I’ll say it again. This ship design is louzy! I’ve stared at it for about three days, and it still isn’t giving me good vibes. It just doesn’t look right.
The original series design was perfect! The Motion picture design was even better! At first I didn’t care much for the Next Generation design, but it grew on me. I finally fell in love with the Enterprise E design, with its sleak design. All of those designs I’ve loved a great deal. But this design by JJ Abram’s team? They are only showing how little they know about Trek!
Those of you who want to support it, then fine. But I promise you that your ride will be very short. This “REBOOT” was a terrible idea, and it’s killing Star Trek. Some of you keep bringing up Batman, as though it were popular. I don’t know what statistics you guys are using, but the last I heard, not very many people actually care about Batman. Besides, Batman stayed fairly true to the story line. JJ Abrams drifted WAAAAY off the story line. 6 errors on a short trailer! I can’t wait to count the errors in the entire movie.
If the movie comes out in May 2009, the DVD will be available in June / July time frame.
Have fun guys.
@Joseph
Batman not being popular? Last time I checked The Dark Knight is the 2nd highest grossing film of all time and when they re-release it this January it will overtake Titanic.
Nolan kept the theme of Batman true and I will say that I loved both Begins and TDk and think that they are the best Bat-films to date but they were far far from perfect. Rachel Dawes was a character created for the movie, Two-face was scarred by acid at a court case and not by and explosion from the joker, to go back to the first appearance of Batman, the bat mobile was just a black car, not tricked out, etc, depending on which origin you read Gordan was from the Chicago PD and transferred to gotham just prior to Batmans first appearance, Henri Ducard is an actual character that is not just an alias for Ra’s A Ghul. I can continue to pick it apart if you would like but I will stop now.
Nolan made changes, but it still worked. He changed the design of the batmobile but people grew to like it, he added, subtracted, altered characters but still the core principles, the mean, the vibe of what Batman is was unchanged.
I’m sorry but if people are going to get up in arms because the bulkheads are a shade off, or the corridors are round and not square, cause the exterior is not an exact copy of the TOS then you know what, don’t see it. But more then enough people will, Trek and non-Trek faithful, and if there is any luck this will increase the fan-base and Trek will live on longer. Come on, you are talking about visuals heres not story or character. Moore changed Starbuck from a male to being that of a woman in BSG, I liked it, and thought it worked but that is more of a change then the styling of the Enterprise.
The thing is you can’t stop change. Comic book characters are altered every so often from Batman, Superman, Capt. America, to the X-men, but they are still with us. Some since the late 30’sThis goes for TV, Movies, and books as well, everyone has their own take on things. Some since the late 30’s. Trek is the same, its going to change here and there and it’s going to out live you and me.
And thanks I will have fun in the theater!
Thanks. I was going to chime in with The Dark Knight’s one BILLION dollar box office receipts myself.
Vic
Thanks Vic.
Hey, I just went over to boxofficemojo.com and compared the 2 franchises for total $$$$.
Batman with 7 films all time total =
$1,445,619,922
Trek with 10 films all time total =
$755,955,7222
interesting.
I think it will be more “apples to apples” once the new Trek movie numbers are in. I assume your Batman number includes TDK box office.
Vic
@ Vic
Yes it includes TDK so take that out and your just around 900,000,000.
I was just surprised that Trek’s totals were not a little higher for having 10 films.
But yeah, I agree with you I think when this new Trek comes out it will be as you said apples and apples.
Every time I look at the new Enterprise, I feel slightly less repulsed.
The only tweak I’d do to it is stretch the secondary hull out a little bit to push its center of mass back; right now, it looks sort of like a Hapsburg lip.
My greatest concern, though, is the philosophy of Star Trek. I don’t want it to be more Star Wars or BSG, because those perfectly good franchises have their own mindspace and areas of excellence. Trek has always played up the sci-fi aspects of modern commentary, mind experiments, and philosophical musing. Consider what made /Wrath of Khan/ and /The Undiscovered Country/ distinctly Trek and not any other sci-fi franchise, then compare this to, oh, /Nemesis/.
This is the same franchise which has brought us things like “City on the Edge of Forever,” “The Inner Light,” “Darmok,” and “In The Pale Moonlight.” We can only hope that Abrams and crew don’t change it so much that /Red Dwarf/ becomes more Trek than Trek.
Abrams should have said from the beginning that this was a complete reimagining. That’s what they did with Battlestar Galactica, and so there were few complaints about the complete lack of continuity. While they are at it, it would be nice to see at least one of the three leads be a woman.
All I know about Batman is from the movies, so if the original comic books are to be ignored, it is only fair that the original Star Trek be ignored.
This was a missed opportunity to get a look at the original Enterprise with today’s special effects.
I should say one other thing about technology. Although primitive by TNG standards, TOS technology was still light years ahead of today. The trick is to make everything appear as advanced as possible will still enabling it to plausibly evolve into what we saw in TOS. Abrams seems to get the advanced as possible part, but made no effort on the second part.
~ RF
I totally loved TOS because of the characters, not the special effects. The bouts between Spock & McCoy with Kirk smirking in the middle was classic television. So they’re making a new ST with new ships, corridors, uniforms, people, but keeping the same character names. SO WHAT!!!
Star Trek is a fantasy “human” adventure combining wit & charm with a little bit of special effects thrown in. TNG, DS9, Voy, Ent all forgot the main reason we’re fans…we loved the characters! TNG turned me cold from the first pilot with the “city turned floating jelly fish” alien. I never gave it a chance. I actually stopped watching ST altogether.
Then came Enterprise…I thought to myself “Great! Not too much tech & a whole lot of character!” Wrong! they tried to start that way & turned into a CGI series. I stilled watched it because some of the episodes had awesome character stories (when they weren’t playing with time travel).
I know that the new show appears to be changing the face of ST with a new look & feel but let’s give it a chance to see if they take a good look at the past TOS characters & let the new ones develop to TOS standards. After all, without the TOS characters there wouldn’t be a STAR TREK today.
And yes, I have collected ALL the ships from all the series because I love the Enterprise, no matter what shape it’s in. I may love the original characters alot but the only time I teared up during a ST movie was during the flyby of the new Enterprise in ST-TMP! I hear that part was JJ’s favorite too & he put that into the new movie - can’t wait! No matter what the shape or color of the new Enterprise is - It’s still THE STARSHIP ENTERPRISE!!!!!
Regarding the comment(s) about the rotating blades in the front of the new engine nacelles…
Some (but not all)episodes of the original series actually did seem show rotating blades like those, but all glowy and orange-ish as I recall — more hinted at in the front bubble than clearly delineated. In other episodes, they weren’t evident. So I don’t think that’s a new feature…I think the new movie makers picked up on that item from the original series…
Overall, I’m a bit Trekked-out from all the movies and series…I like some episodes of TNG, like a lot of Voyager and Enterprise, but I’m not sure I can bring myself to see this one…maybe a rental…
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