Hulk Smash Puny Avengers?

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hulk vs iron man Hulk Smash Puny Avengers?

Marvel Studios has us already talking about a movie not set to be released until 2011: The Avengers. That film will no doubt be of epic proportions.

Director Louis Leterrier, who brought us The Incredible Hulk, suggested to MTV News (back in June) that they couldn’t find a villain that could challenge the teaming of Iron Man, Ant-Man, Thor and Captain America.

And his solution was for them to use his.

Mark Fergus and Hawk Ostby, the writers of Iron Man, couldn’t agree more.  They’re rumored to be writing another Marvel movie in the near future – one that has not been announced.  Here’s the excerpt from MTV News:

“I hope ‘The Avengers’ embraces that,” Fergus said of having the Hulk as misunderstood baddie. “You don’t want like 10 super-badass good guys fighting together. Where’s the fun in that? Let’s break it off a little. Friends or colleagues who become enemies is always an interesting thing because you know it’s based on love and friendship and that’s always the worst thing to have turn bad — is someone you actually care about and someone you actually believe in.”

Now the Hulk has ripped through nearly every Marvel comic book series, so I couldn’t be happier with this news.  In Ultimates, Vol. 1, Nick Fury recruits Giant-Man (read as: Ant-Man), the Wasp (that Eva Longoria rumor), Iron Man, Captain America and Thor, to take down a rampaging Hulk.  Marvel’s big green monster has always been out of control, so when they said he was a part of the Avengers team in the movie it rubbed me the wrong way. And although Hulk was part of the first Avengers team in the comics, I think this movie is going to be about assembling said team and he’ll be the last piece in the puzzle.

The good guys always win, but to protect our borders and secure the homeland, they’ll have to go through little ol’ Bruce Banner to do it.  Can they trust one another?  They are working for the government, after all.

Source: MTV Spash Page

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  1. @Ken J
    Good idea. It’d take a little tweaking, but I like the idea of the Hulk ultimately making the decision to be a hero and rush to the aid of the Avengers at the end. Could be a great climax.
    I would love to see the Mandarin as the villain in the Avengers movie. Remember Fav’s said before Iron Man that he viewed it as a trilogy, with the Avengers movie being the third part. So it would make sense to have IM 2 show Mandarin and set him up as an enemy IM cannot defeat alone, thus the Avengers!

  2. @ Deadpool

    Like the suit, would look great in the Avenger film. Just think the suit will be a little darker in tone for a stealthier design.

  3. There will be a super-villain in this movie I’m sure of it.I think the Hulk vs Avengers will be a sub-story,Hulk will be the anti-hero,doesn’t want these Avengers bothering him…hence a massive battle where they have to bring him down in order to get him to join them somehow in order to take on the real bad-guy(s)!
    I still think that the more these Marvel movies come out we’ll see lots of clues in T.I.H movie.
    I love it!!Bring it all on!!!
    Marvel Rules

  4. Just had a thought about all this Hulk business:
    why dont the movies give the Hulk some dialogue? He’s not a conversationalist, but he does talk when he has hulked out. Id like to see them introduce that in the Avengers. Now that Banner apparently can control his transformations, maybe he can have the Hulk talk. They’d really be able to add to the drama and the action in the story if Hulk could speak.
    Anyone else want to see Hulk talk?

  5. Just wondering does anyone else find it sad that the tagline for The Incredible Hulk in the commercials is “Its every bit as good as Iron man”?

  6. He does say “Hulk Smash” at the end, lol, that was actually pretty cool.

    Unless my idea goes against something in the comics, I think that would be a good way to get Hulk vs The Avengers and then them all together to go against a huge villain. They could have it seem like Banner has definitely chose to kill off Hulk, then at the last minute when they are fighting the villain, Hulk jumps in and turns the tide of the battle.

  7. Hulk was good, but not “every bit as good as Iron Man” Id give the Hulk a 7/10 and Iron Man 8/10. Just for reference, the Dark Knight gets a perfect 10/10 from me.

    @Ken J
    Hulk Smash was freakn’ sweet, but not nearly enough. I would love to hear some “Hulk no like puny avengers, hulk smash!” some caveman like dialogue. And I dig your idea for the movie. Who do you want to see as the villain?
    I vote for the Mandarin

  8. How the heck did The Dark Knight make its way into the discussion again?? Oh right, nothing can be said about Iron Man without comparing it to TDK, lol.

    Anyway, I don’t know about the villain, not sure who would be big and bad enough to require the entire team… Mandarin is IM’s main villain, but I know the wanted to make him more realistic and not as mystical in the movies, so he might not be as powerful as he seems in the comics. Although maybe if they could figure some technological way to make him that threatening…

    Maybe he can command a large robot army or something, lol. :-D

  9. This is just all kinds of exciting. No way this can get messed up. Do it Ultimates style-minuse the aliens.

  10. Well, Fantastic Four was made prior to the whole in-house tactic from Marvel, so was Punisher, so in theory if they can somehow get the rights for FF from Fox, they could just redo the characters and ignore those horrible FF movies… Wouldn’t that be a dream come true??

  11. yeah, that would be a dream come true. But I think it may take a while for fox to give up the rights.
    Although I think I want them to give it up for a different, selfish reason. I would love to see Iron Man fighting Doom on the big screen. Hell, I’ll even take an animated version of Iron Man vs Doctor Doom. The Fantastic Four are cool, but I think it would be really hard for a studio to make a great FF movie like Fav’s did for Iron Man. Their powers are a little cheesey. I dont know, something about Mr Fantastic always seemed silly to me.
    Although I always like seeing the Thing duke it out with Hulk.

    Back to Avengers: Do it ultimates style, like the animated movies, and there wont be many complaints. Most people I’ve come across have come to like those flicks. Sure I’ve heard the knock that it is childish, so for the live adaptation they can just add some adult themes. That movie stylistically was awesome!

  12. just for sake of conversation: Magneto, Dr. Doom, Mandarin and a pissed off HULK vs. avengers would be fun…but then the movie would be over in like 5 minutes, including credits…

    seriously, is it outside the realm of thought to bring in a Franklin Richards from the future? anyone remember Psi-lord or onslaught? i wouldn’t mind seeing references to additional characters outside the avenger mythos…FF, spiderman, xmen…cause after avengers, then what? in comics we crossed over to other comics…so why not at some point an avengers vs. xmen? not till may of 2020 of course…

    how about an Invasion from the kingdom of atlantis lead by Namor? he could have an army of large amphibian soldiers and the studio could create new characters never seen before, suited to combat their equivalent on the avengers…(someone strong, someone fast, ect…) the sub plot could have an environmental issue about polluting the oceans, global warming, and in the end its not a matter of winning the battle, but trying to reform…

    how about a powerful scarlet witch (with some allusions to her father?) or Thanos, although he would be a little “out there” for most people…

    what if they government needs the avengers because they catch wind of an alien invasion and know they don’t have the ability to fight back? like the skrulls…

    ultimately, it has to be a villain that is SOOO bad ass, that no one can single handedly stop him/her…

  13. Good points Comic Geek,,, Avengers is going to have to compete with the coolness that Watchmen is going to bring to the Superhero game,,,

  14. I’d like to see the skrulls, but only if they are established in a different movie first. That way the Avengers movie wont spend 30 minutes trying to explain them. Thats kinda why I want to see the Hulk. If they use characters that have already been established on film, they dont have to waste time on origin stories. Straight to the action. And when you are watching a movie based on a team of superheroes, Im pretty sure youre gonna want to see some serious action.

  15. Why toss in a bunch of random storylines in an origin film like that? Crazy. Plus, bringin aliens into comics was always a bad idea, so lets shy away from tossing that hackneyed excuse for a plot twist in an otherwise very promising film. Give ‘em Ultron or something, but make him powerful enough to require the use of all Avengers. Maybe do Ultron like a Terminator character, who can control all kinds of machines, doing like a skynet thing. That would be pretty tough to fight. But c’mon, they’re the Avengers. They’d figure it out.

  16. Ultron controlling all the machines around him. That would be great. Pit some Stark tech against Iron Man. Maybe by this time in the world marvel is creating, Stark has created numerous different types of armor. Then Ultron takes control of one or several of them. Ultron and his army of Iron Men! Tell me that wouldnt kick some serious A**!!!

  17. (gets on top of soapbox) now when we are all talking about getting straight to the action, we mean this without the expense of character right.
    I mean action is all well and good but if we dont care about these men and woman then all this action will be all flash no substance (i.e transformers) after all wasnt it tony stark molre important to iron man then the showdown with stane? (sorry but I am using only one hand right now)

  18. @G.K
    You’re absolutely right. I love characters that are deep and easy to get attached to. But just because we can have more action in a sequel doesnt mean there will be nothing that attaches us to the characters. Here is what I was thinking: In Iron Man, how long did it take in the movie for the first scenes of Iron Man fighting? It took time to explain why Stark would do what he did and establish how he did it. In the sequel, they wont have to take the time to show his origin, how he built subsequent armors till he got it right. They can launch right into the story. All of the excess time doesnt go into action, some of it can, and the rest can go into the development of the characters. Most of us comic fans already know the origin, and we just want to see the character as we know them. As heroes. Establishing the characters gives the writers more room to show incredible action as well as develop an emotional character driven story.
    Another good example was the Dark Knight and Joker. No true origin story, so there was more room in the movie for all the twisted Joker greatness.

  19. Also next year they are releasing Thor vs. Hulk, so we may get a taste of the 2 epic heroes fight.

  20. Wow JBRREX, I didn’t bother to read all that, but good for you! So…anyways, Hulk fights Avengers-sounds cool.

  21. I saw both trailer (Hulk vs. Thor and Wolverine vs. The Hulk) in Young Avengers DVD. I guess Marvel wants to recover old fan and to include the new Generation.

  22. What about the hulk being brainwashed. I mean maybe if he’s controlled by somebody, say for instance the leader then that would be interesting. I’d find it hard to see my childhood hero turn villain. I know they’ve done that in the past and recently with the World War Hulk but now I think they need to keep the sympathetic side of Dr. Banner, remember it could just easily be interpreted that Stark is misdirected in trying to hunt down the hulk and might have to learn painfully the error of his ways. You know Bruce loses it being chased all his life and turns angry.
    They might even bring in Professor X to help control him, that would be my dream movie.

  23. I agree wityh Emlyn Davis! (above) I wrote an email to Vic earlier today…

    I think the Avengers SHOULD fight the Hulk, who is unwittingly acting as the Leader’s “puppet”. Then when the Avengers “cut the strings” the Hulk completes the Avenger team as they battle Leader together. (Leader is who Mr. Blue turns into in The Incredible Hulk, a sort of “intelectual Hulk” So it just seems to make sense. :)

  24. Thanks Jim for the agreement. Oh and congrats to all americans on ur new presdient.

    Now I’m new to the whole comic lore of Marvel, more of a tv junkie rather than comic reader. I do hear something of a red hulk in the comics now could that be something ot do with the avengers? If I’m wrong, who is he? Is it Bruce Banner or another abomination?

  25. Oh btw… In the beginning of TIH, Hulk tells Bromsky and his soldiers “Leave me alone”. You have to listen close though, but it is there.