Hulk Smash Puny Avengers?

Deadpool says:

This is great news, if they end up doing this. Ive been saying this for a while now. The thing about the Hulk and Iron Man movies is that they are very heavily influenced by the Ultimate storylines in the comics. And good, because those stories seem to be written with movies in mind. How cool would it be to see Captain America and Iron Man (and Thor, Ant man and Wasp, but I really dont care about those characters much) team up to take down a seriously upset rampaging Hulk. Its not like there is nothing to draw from in the comics, Hulk has appeared in a villain capacity in just about every hero’s comics at least once. Make it so Marvel! Its genious!

T. says:

The Hulk by himself is not mighty enough to smash Thor, let alone the entire Avengers team. That’s especially so for this movie version of Hulk, which is far weaker than his comic book self.

JordanD says:

The smirk at the end of Hulk was nothing sinister at all, an evil bruce banner would be ridiculous. But, as for the tony stark appearance at the end, all tony said was, were putting a team together. That statement doesn’t imply they want hulk for the team, it could mean that they are putting a team together to do what the army couldn’t aka catch hulk.

@Deadpool
Hulk isn’t a spit personality of bruce banner, being Hulk is more like an out of body experience, they share the same memories.

A more likely reason for hulk going really berserk would be either something bad happening to the chick whoes name is currently escaping me, or maybe gammabomb blows up in hulks face.

G.K says:

This would be actually…AWESOME. I mean, sure I am against hero vs hero (the only winners in that are villains) but then again it does fit with Avenger continuty that they banded to fight Hulk.

Here’s what I think would be cool for this. After the Avengers beat the stuffing out of Hulk, they discover the reason why he was smiling confidently/evily at the end of the first film…he was under control by an outside force. That force being Red Skull, because after all Red Skull has to pop up somewhere.

Ken J says:

Well, if their intention was to KILL the Hulk, then I could see how the entire Avengers might seem to be far too much for the Hulk. But the fact is that they see him as a “good guy” and probably wouldn’t want to kill him, making the task of stopping him that much more difficult and worthy of an Avengers movie.

Or perhaps catching/stopping him can be the first half of the film, and then he joins the team to fight off something even crazier, lol.

G.K says:

@Deadpool
HE BETTER BE! HE BETTER BEEE!
And just as awesome as Joker was

Deadpool says:

I brought up Captain America’s costume earlier. Here is how I want it to look

http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z244/Truetin/?action=view&current=captain-americafinal.jpg

Any thoughts?

790 says:

Heath that smile at the end was Banner taking control of the Hulk. Having Hulk as the badguy is just an excuse to cut Norton out of the film,,, this sucks…
Cop out!!!!!!!

790 says:

Funny thing Deadpool, I didn’t expect Ed Norton to pull it off, but he’s the reason I loved the film so much !!!

High Kalibur says:

Hulk vs. Avengers would be a good subplot but the main theme of the movie would need to focus on the heros having to join forces, despite their differences to overcome a threat too great for either one of them to handle alone.

Just the Hulk as an antagonist would not be an enriching plot or do justice to the cinematic potential of arguably, one of the most anticipated movies ever.

Besides I would say that the end of TIH was definitely trying to tell us that he was getting a lot better at controlling it. That means he can be an Avenger one day!

Yes Iron Man vs. The Hulk should happen @ some point in the Marvel Movie Universe and Hulkbuster armor? Yes! If it is in the Avengers, it doesn’t need to be the whole movie. We need the Hulk to smash the real villians!

The Avengers need an all-powerful villian. My question is who?

I wish they hadn’t made Fantastic Four so we could have a REAL Doc Doom. It would be hard to use Red Skull, I can only imagine he is in Captain America and how would her ALSO survive to be over a hundred. Ultimo, Skrulls — too out there. I dunno, I’m anxious to see who the REAL villian will be even if they use the Hulk subplot. Maybe a team of Villians?

But Who!!?!

Is it 2011 yet?!? Avengers assemble!

790 says:

The only way to have Hulk join the Avengers is to have Ed Norton play Banner!!!

ImJustAFan says:

I think It will make sense if they create the Avengers movie based on Ultimates vol.1. Here’s the reason:
1. Ultimates use a realistic approach both in costume and story
2. Ultimates give us more explosive than Michael Bay use in his entire career.

AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!!!

SK47 says:

You know Marvel really did a great job with the Ultimate Avengers animated movie. For a short portion of the movie it showed the flaws of all the heroes and them coming together, plus Cap.America’s coming to grips with a new world.
Seriously, I honestly don’t know how they could pull this off because it would take a lot of CGI & practical work, and it would be very expensive to do.
Not only you have the Iron Man costume to deal with, but also Thor and his lightning attacks, Cap’s shield, the Wasp flying and a full CG Hulk destroying property, etc. Hey, if they can pull it off, God bless ‘em!

Adrian says:

@ Deadpool

Like the suit, would look great in the Avenger film. Just think the suit will be a little darker in tone for a stealthier design.

Deadpool says:

Just had a thought about all this Hulk business:
why dont the movies give the Hulk some dialogue? He’s not a conversationalist, but he does talk when he has hulked out. Id like to see them introduce that in the Avengers. Now that Banner apparently can control his transformations, maybe he can have the Hulk talk. They’d really be able to add to the drama and the action in the story if Hulk could speak.
Anyone else want to see Hulk talk?

Ken J says:

He does say “Hulk Smash” at the end, lol, that was actually pretty cool.

Unless my idea goes against something in the comics, I think that would be a good way to get Hulk vs The Avengers and then them all together to go against a huge villain. They could have it seem like Banner has definitely chose to kill off Hulk, then at the last minute when they are fighting the villain, Hulk jumps in and turns the tide of the battle.

Ken J says:

How the heck did The Dark Knight make its way into the discussion again?? Oh right, nothing can be said about Iron Man without comparing it to TDK, lol.

Anyway, I don’t know about the villain, not sure who would be big and bad enough to require the entire team… Mandarin is IM’s main villain, but I know the wanted to make him more realistic and not as mystical in the movies, so he might not be as powerful as he seems in the comics. Although maybe if they could figure some technological way to make him that threatening…

Maybe he can command a large robot army or something, lol.

huntthejest says:

This is just all kinds of exciting. No way this can get messed up. Do it Ultimates style-minuse the aliens.

Deadpool says:

yeah, that would be a dream come true. But I think it may take a while for fox to give up the rights.
Although I think I want them to give it up for a different, selfish reason. I would love to see Iron Man fighting Doom on the big screen. Hell, I’ll even take an animated version of Iron Man vs Doctor Doom. The Fantastic Four are cool, but I think it would be really hard for a studio to make a great FF movie like Fav’s did for Iron Man. Their powers are a little cheesey. I dont know, something about Mr Fantastic always seemed silly to me.
Although I always like seeing the Thing duke it out with Hulk.

Back to Avengers: Do it ultimates style, like the animated movies, and there wont be many complaints. Most people I’ve come across have come to like those flicks. Sure I’ve heard the knock that it is childish, so for the live adaptation they can just add some adult themes. That movie stylistically was awesome!

790 says:

Good points Comic Geek,,, Avengers is going to have to compete with the coolness that Watchmen is going to bring to the Superhero game,,,

huntthejest says:

Why toss in a bunch of random storylines in an origin film like that? Crazy. Plus, bringin aliens into comics was always a bad idea, so lets shy away from tossing that hackneyed excuse for a plot twist in an otherwise very promising film. Give ‘em Ultron or something, but make him powerful enough to require the use of all Avengers. Maybe do Ultron like a Terminator character, who can control all kinds of machines, doing like a skynet thing. That would be pretty tough to fight. But c’mon, they’re the Avengers. They’d figure it out.

G.K says:

(gets on top of soapbox) now when we are all talking about getting straight to the action, we mean this without the expense of character right.
I mean action is all well and good but if we dont care about these men and woman then all this action will be all flash no substance (i.e transformers) after all wasnt it tony stark molre important to iron man then the showdown with stane? (sorry but I am using only one hand right now)

JBRREX says:

Hi all I just wanna shair something i found in this site http://www.marvel.com/universe/Hulk_(Bruce_Banner)
Supervising the trial of an experimental gamma bomb for the U.S. Defense Department at a nuclear research facility in New Mexico, Dr. Robert Bruce Banner selflessly rushed to the rescue of an ignorant teenager who had wandered onto the testing field as the countdown ticked inexorably toward zero. After shoving young Rick Jones to safety in a nearby ditch, Banner was struck full-force by the bomb blast. He survived, but was irradiated by the deadly gamma energy.
At first, Banner would transform into the brutish gray Hulk only at sunset, and revert to human form at dawn. Eventually, his changes into the childlike green Hulk came to be triggered by the release of adrenaline when he was intensely excited, no matter what time of day. The green Hulk possesses little of Banner’s memory and intelligence, and is easily enraged; making him a menace to society.

Since Banner’s initial transformation into the Hulk, military forces commanded by the implacable General Thaddeus “Thunderbolt” Ross; father of his late wife, Betty — have hunted him continually.

For a short time, Banner successfully treated his condition with radiation and was able to maintain enough of his own personality when he became the Hulk to control himself in that form. Subsequently, he helped found the Avengers and even received a presidential pardon. Ultimately, however, the Hulk reverted into a brutish menace.

Gamma-powered psychiatrist Leonard “Doc” Samson captured the Hulk and successfully separated Banner and his alter ego. Without Banner’s psyche to restrain him, the Hulk became a greater danger than ever before. Realizing there was only one way to reign in the Hulk, Banner agreed to merge with the monster. But the stress of the re-integration fractured Banner’s subconscious, creating the street-smart gray Hulk. During this time, he spent several years in Las Vegas, sometimes operating as an enforcer calling himself Mr. Fixit (or “Joe Fixit.”) The smart-mouth Fixit was an ill-tempered, wise-cracking, thuggish brute whose personality resembled that of his father and the fraternity boys who surrounded him in college. It was also at this time that Joe Fixit began his a short-lived relationship with the future wife of Rick Jones, Marlo Chandler. In this state of the Hulk, Banner again found himself changing into the Hulk at night and into his human form in the light of the day.

Soon after, the swirling mess of persona and mentalities took their toll on the ever-flustered mind of Dr. Banner, and a battle for supremacy and control took place in Banner’s subconscious. With assistance by the Ringmaster and his hypnotic abilities, Doc Samson tapped into the subconscious of Banner and reached his separate incarnations. Through this hypnosis, Banner, the green Hulk, and the grey Fixit all aligned to face their true inner demons– Banner’s unresolved issues with his abusive father and the murderer of his mother. With this realization, Banner was able to fuse these mentalities together, finding peace of mind. However, a green but intelligent version of the Hulk emerged. He had the mentality of Dr. Banner but the body and abilities of the Hulk.

Unfortunately Dr. Banner soon realized that he must once again keep his temper in check, as if he let his rage loose, the mentality of the savage green Hulk would soon take over, albeit in the form of Banner’s human body. Without the strength of the Hulk and filled with the Green Goliath’s rage and belief of his old abilities, he proved to be a great danger to himself. This was, however, not to last. During the assault of the being known as Onslaught, the Hulk asked Jean Grey to let the green Hulk loose from its mental prison in order to use his maximum potential and abilities to defeat the menace. In a strange twist, Banner became divided. The Banner physically went away to a parallel world created upon Onslaught’s defeat, where he once again became the savage green Hulk. Remaining on Earth, was a cold, somewhat unfeeling but intelligible version of the jade monster. This version of the Hulk also found himself allied with Apocalypse (En Sabah Nur), who made Hulk into one of his Four Horsemen.

This surly version of the Hulk remained in this state, never changing until much later when the consciousness of Banner was awakened from a personal hell where he was trapped in his own subconscious and haunted by his memories of his father, his future self (the Maestro), the Leader, and his past Banner and Hulk incarnations. Banner’s freedom and escape from this subconscious hell was only achieved through self-realization and the understanding that his true strength came from within, proving his redemption from his fears. Upon this realization, Banner was guided to consciousness though the visage of his true love, Betty.

Though never a team player, the Hulk joined forces with the Dr. Strange, Master of the Mystic Arts, and Namor, the Atlantean Sub-Mariner, to defeat the techno-wizard Yandroth and his ultimate computer, the Omegatron. Thereafter, this loose-knit band of Defenders would unite periodically to oppose threats to humanity. The original Defenders reluctantly re-formed when Yandroth surfaced again to menace the world. Though the heroes defeated his plan, Yandroth used his sorcery to levy a deathbed curse upon their heads, binding them to come together in times of crisis.

After the events of the M-Day, Banner sought refuge and peace in Alaska, where he lived as a hermit loosely connected to the town community. He was eventually tracked down by Nick Fury of S.H.I.E.L.D., who required his help in defeating the Hydra space weapon called the Godseye which could detonate all the nuclear bombs in the world. Sent up as the Hulk, he discovered that the Godseye was actually a rogue S.H.I.E.L.D. weapon that could match the strength of any enemy. In the ensuing battle, the Godseye found that though it could try, it could not match the increasing power of the Hulk, and it exploded. A S.H.I.E.L.D. commissioned space shuttle was sent to retrieve the Hulk, or so he believed. Seizing the opportunity to be rid of the Hulk, a group of superheroes known as the Illuminati decided to jettison the shuttle into space, to a planet with no intelligent life forms. Unfortunately, there was a navigation error, and the Hulk landed on Planet Sakaar, a planet full of barbarian tribes, gladiator battles and ruled over by a corrupt empire. The planet was situated near a portal, which gave it access to several different cultures and technologies. Weakened by his travel, Hulk was taken captive and sold into slavery and sent to the Great Arena to die in the games. After overcoming the first challenge set before him, Hulk was given the opportunity to be pardoned by the Red King, but instead he chose to attack him and was knocked out by the Red King when he became distracted. The Hulk soon joined several others in a group that would have to learn to fight together and, in result, they became warbound. The Hulk and his team of misfit warriors overcame the challenges set before them and became known as great warriors throughout the planet, inspiring many to rebel against the Red King.
Soon thereafter, Hulk and his team were forced to fight a captured Silver Surfer who struck them fiercely. Hulk, angered by Silver Surfer’s betrayal, attacked the Surfer and inadvertently released him from the disc implant embedded within him. Freed of the implant disc that kept him prisoner, the Surfer destroyed the rest of the implant discs embedded in the rest of the warriors. The Hulk declined the Silver Surfer’s offer of transportation back to his world so as to finish things on Planet Sakaar. Hulk then stood with his freed Warbound companions against the tyrannous Red King.

After several hard fought battles, the evolution of Miek, and finally gaining the confidence of Caiera the Oldstrong, Hulk and the Warbound confronted the Red King. With those few still loyal to him, the King in his Death’s Head Armor did battle with Hulk. As he soon saw he was no match for the Green Scar, the Red King activated a rupture under the very surface of the planet. In an act of desperation, Hulk leaped into the molten earth and forced the splitting plates back to their proper assemblage, literally saving Sakaar. The Hulk gave the King a finishing blow, knocking him clear of the city walls. Finally, the Wildebots came upon the Red King and finished him off once and for all.

Hulk was proclaimed the Green King, and all those on Sakaar worshiped him and his Queen, Caiera. She told her king that she would bear him a child, and it seemed that the Hulk’s life of running and fighting was over. However, the Hulk was not destined for a happy ending as the ship that brought him to that world soon exploded, killing his wife and unborn child sending Banner into a rage like no other. He and his Warbound journeyed to Earth seeking revenge on the planet’s heroes for their part in Sakkar’s destruction. Once they arrived, the Hulk crushed Black Bolt on Attilan and took the city of New York as his battleground. Iron Man, Mister Fantastic and Doctor Strange all fell before the Hulk and his Warbound too. Even old sparring partners such as the X-Men as well as new threats like the Gamma Corps couldn’t even slow the Hulk’s rampage.

Hulk fitted his defeated foes with Obedience Disks just like the ones he and the other gladiators on Sakaar were forced to wear and made them battle one another in order to experience the ordeal he was put through. It wasn’t until the Hulk prevented Mister Fantastic from killing Tony Stark during one of the gladiator matches that he revealed his true intentions. Hulk claimed he came home for justice, not murder, but Hulk does not want the world to forget what he feels their heroes truly are: liars, traitors and killers. No matter how many times Stark or Richards try to explain they had nothing to do with the shuttle explosion that killed his adopted home world, the Hulk will not listen.

Soon a nearly insane Sentry arrives on the scene and a cataclysmic battle ensues between him and Hulk. Sentry unleashed forces that nearly destroyed what was left of New York, but ultimately, Hulk averted that disaster by defeating the Sentry. Having reverted back to the form of Bruce Banner, it seemed that World War Hulk had come to an end. However, Miek had other plans. Miek tried to injure Banner, so he would transform back to his gamma powered counterpart, but Rick Jones pushed Banner out of the way only to have Miek’s spear thrust through his body. Miek got what he wanted, and Banner did turn back into the Hulk but it was only because he intended to destroy the Hive King for stabbing his friend. Miek continued to explain how it was really his plan to let Hulk think the heroes of Earth destroyed Sakaar as he watched men loyal to the Red King load an old warp core onto the Hulk’s shuttle in hopes that it would kill him. Now faced with the truth, Hulk’s anger was completely out of control, and as he told the heroes he would hate them forever because this would never have happened if not for their interference, he also told Tony Stark to stop him because he hated himself as well for his part in the destruction.

Stark called upon the combined power of various satellites to finally put an end to the Hulk’s rampage. Banner was taken into S.H.I.E.L.D. custody and was placed three miles below the Mojave Desert. The Warbound was also placed in S.H.I.E.L.D. custody, but they escaped after saving New York from being split in half by an expanding chasm the Hulk created.

- reading this it tell em that Hulk is stroger than any super heroes in marvel I guess.