SR Pick [Video]: How Avatar Should Have Ended

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How It Should Have Ended has become something of a popular site for skewing some of our favorite – or most hated – movies.

In order to further prove that A) I’m not some luminescent tree-hugging blue hippie, and B) I do acknowledge that Avatar isn’t the greatest film ever (just the highest-grossing), I’m going to follow up our recent “Buffalo Bill Avatar review” by posting this new video, “Avatar: How It Should Have Ended”.

I’ll say upfront: what I appreciate about this video is that it does more than shout the opinion that Avatar‘s script was weak or that the Na’vi characters and their world, Pandora, looked like CGI cartoons. This video actually does the legwork of pointing out an indisputable narrative flaw in Avatar that not even the biggest Pandora fanatic can deny.

Check it out:

Now that is the kind of actual criticism that makes me go “Heh, you’re right about that – no argument here.”

The problem with most of the people I’ve been trading barbs with over Avatar in recent weeks is that they’re so caught up in their own opinions (while lambasting me for being caught up in mine) that they never bother to cite some actual evidence to back their opinions. Thank goodness for videos like these…

Back to the subject at hand: why the hell did Jake Sully never tell the Na’vi that the humans were after unobtanium? He doomed both Na’vi and humans to death in some big battle without ever letting the Na’vi decide for themselves what they were truly willing to fight for. It’s kind of a condescending way to portray an indigenous people when you think about it. Luckily for James Cameron, we were all to0 busy arguing about the quality of the CGI and/or  Dances With Wolves to notice.

You win this round, Mr. Cameron!

Avatar is still making a killing at the box office as we speak.

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  1. haha i love this video! I posted this link a day or so ago in the open discussion no one seemed to respond. I think they were alot of plot holes in Avatar as do others. One of the reasons i dont think it should win for Best Picture. It was visually one of the greatest things i have ever seen but that alone i dont think is enough to make it one of the best movies of all time.

    Plus if they are doing a sequel it could just be……”Lets just nuke them from orbit….”

  2. Totally agree Kofi.
    That first line from Quaritch is a classic.

  3. Not funny, cause even though Jake never mention it , the Navi probably knows why the rda where there since Grace and her science avatars where there teaching English for some time.

    Even if Jake had told the navi it wouldn’t change anything .The navi wouldn’t move because they know the rda would just terraform the places which are scared to them.Plus rda would eventually come after all the other clans for the other resources.

    It's kinda silly, like how Chamberlain though if he gave Hitler the Czech , Hitler would stop his global conquest .You have to draw the line and make a stand with people like these . There no point in negotiations if they are hell bent on their goal.

  4. While not a perfect movie; Which I noticed more on the second viewing, If Avatar had not had the run it had the highest grossing movie of 2009 would have been Transformers 2 and that makes me lose sleep at night….

  5. That's one of my biggest pet peeves is the the lack of communication between characters when there's no obvious reason not to communicate.

  6. It sounds to me as though you are a frustrated script writer or want-a-be who thinks he could do better but actually does nothing but criticize every one else. You obviously have no idea about the deeper messages that are the undercurrent of the whole movie and the amazingly beautiful symbolism embedded in the story. you missed out big time. oh well!

  7. Your arguement is invalid… The whole reason Jake Sully didn't tell the Na'vi about the human operations is because he was still on the “human's side” and gaining trust and getting intel from the Na'vi to give to the humans. The scene that Jake told Neytiri and all of the other Na'vi that the humans were comming to destroy Home Tree was when he acually switched over to the “Na'vi side”. But that was also the scene when they rejected him because of his deceit. Now he is on nobody's side and ended up being locked up in a cell at the Human's headquarters. Then the movie goes on, he gets freed, he proves himself hes one of the Na'vi, and the battle begins.

  8. You are right… Also what difference would it make if he told them they were mining unobtanium? That wouldn't have affected the plot in anyway. The humans still would have destroyed their forests. The Na'vi weren't fighting to prevent them from taking unobtanium… They were fighting for their forest or nature which the humans were destroying.

  9. Heres something funny, Jake spent a lot of language navi classes. in the end when hes rounding up the troops, all his speeches are in english

    you gotta think half of em had absolutely no clue what was going on, they just knew he had a big f&^#ing dragon. imagine their suprise when they found themselve flying through a shitload of bullets… lol

  10. HA im an idiot, he made the dude translate… now i remember

  11. that ending would be the worst EVER

  12. Heh did not see the movie, nor will i go out of my way to see it…
    I still can not get how this movie made more money then the LOTR trilogy???

  13. Seriously guys, a little reading comprehension, please.

    I'm actually one of the bigger Avatar fans on this site – I simply posted this video to acknowledge the opposing opinions of those who did not like it. CALM DOWN. Mjoinir, Butterflywings, you really don't need to attack me. I'M A BIG FAN OF THE MOVIE.

    You two are prime examples of what my colleagues on the site assert are “Avtar fanatics.” Yeeesh…

  14. Welcome to my world, Kofi. :)

    That's what I was talking about right there.

  15. I'm still not seeing what barbs have supposedly been traded over Avatar. I've read how a number of folks didn't like it, sure, and have pointed out familiar reasons like story problems, but . . . it's been fair criticisms.

    With the video and whether Jake told them, I know some folks are reading into it and saying “well, they must have told them at some point but it wasn't in the movie,” but, if it's not in the movie, it wouldn't have been said. That's not something that would have happened in the background and none of the Navi would have said anything about it. They'd likely bring up about why the humans want to destroy their home, but that was never brought up.

    It's a plot hole. It happens, but it didn't greatly impact the entertainment value of the film.

  16. Perhaps you should see the film before you express surprise at its gross receipts… I am one of the biggest LOTR fans out there, but that doesn't stop me from enjoying other movies. Avatar clearly had flaws, as others have pointed out, but it was visually groundbreaking, and a completely enjoyable experience. Picking it apart after the fact is kinda pointless, in the heat of the moment, I was just loving it… Much like how I felt while watching LOTR…

  17. I hope this alternate ending was solely mad as a joke. All the avatar critics really are very bored with life. Why can't you ust admit this was the best movie ever and shut up already and quit being so negative?? Sure it was not flawless but what movie is?? NONE! Just because just does not physically come out and speak of what the humans want does not mean it never happened. Even if he did tell the navi all this it would not have changed a thing. This is not a storyline flaw. James cameron should not have to spell out every little detail so that all the simple minded people can understand. You obviously missed the whole point of the movie.

  18. “James cameron should not have to spell out every little detail so that all the simple minded people can understand.”

    How about critical ones? I was apparently under the mistaken impression that one of the more important jobs of a story is not to completely leave out important information. And a story does not have to be utterly explicit in exposing information. Lots of films, really good ones for that matter, use subtle hints or well-written and conversational dialog to accomplish this, just enough to guide the minds of the audience without being so insulting as to write lines that directly and boringly lay out plot points. However, when there is not even a suggestion that such a plot point took place off screen, then it's just lazy screenwritng.

  19. “All the avatar critics really are bored with life.”

    Actually, I'd say it's the Avatar FANS who are bored with life. So much so that they are contemplating suicide in hopes that they'll be reincarnated on Pandora. Just read this article:

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/Movies/01/11/av

    You really should calm down, pal. Just because not everyone loved the movie as much as you did does not mean they are stupid. I'm sure you hate plenty of movies that other people like. And as for your claim of there being no flawless movies, I'm inclined to disagree. A number of films (such as Casablanca, Dr. Strangelove, Patton, Pulp Fiction, Die Hard, and even James Cameron's own Aliens) are flawless films in my opinion. Perfectly written and made, with not a flaw to be found.

    You apparently love the film so much that you get angry when people point out plot holes. Not a good sign. And I would say this film is far from the greatest movie ever. Sure, it has special effects up there with T2 and Jurassic Park, but a story on the same level as, say, Armageddon. I would say NO ONE missed the point of this film, considering Cameron was hammering it into the audience's head with all the subtlety of a hydrogen bomb. And you wonder why some people didn't like this movie?

    Anyway, get used to people disagreeing with you if you keep up this attitude. Also, it'd be good to work on your grammar and syntax. Later.

  20. I just saw 'Avatar' on the 6th of Feb. I immediately began to harp upon the weaknesses of the story, particularly the cliché elements of the romance plot and other parts of the plot. Between my friends and I, it was undoubtedly a very extensive, if unofficial, analysis and breakdown of the movie's weaknesses and strengths. That said, this is one of the best movies I've ever seen. I love it. No question about that. Are there weaknesses? Yes. Are they fairly obvious to a perceptive viewer? Definitely. But really, who gives a damn? To me, it was one of best motion pictures ever, or at least that I have seen. For numerous reasons, emotions, and feelings, it transcend plot holes and cliché storylines and simple dialogue. IT WORKED. I will admit that several parts of the narrative and story annoyed and frustrated me, but as I said, 'Avatar' rose beyond that.

    I would also like to note that the Na'vi and avatar bodies, faces, and facial expressions were all done by motion capture, so the actors and actresses are still definitely 'acting' in the traditional sense; it isn't an animation projecting what their expressions and body language might look like; the actors and actresses are still doing almost all of the work.

    Intelligent replies are welcome :)

  21. I'm actually quite disappointed in this… There was so many things to pick on in this movie, and all they point out was that? Come on… Oh well, still pretty funny, but their other ones are funnier, LOTR was one of the best ones in my opinion. :-)

  22. “why the hell did Jake Sully never tell the Na’vi that the humans were after unobtanium? He doomed both Na’vi and humans to death in some big battle without ever letting the Na’vi decide for themselves what they were truly willing to fight for.”

    i think the unobtanium is under the big tree. the humans will still destroy the navi's home. they will still have a big battle.

  23. Seriously guys….that is one of the most pointless questions to ask about any movie. I can tell you exactly why they made the movie they way they did……because it was in the script! You can't actually tell me you would have been happier if he walked into camp and said “Can we have the mineral under your home?” and they said “Sure.” and then the movie was over. Seriously…you guys have to learn to watch a movie and except that certain things just happen in movies for entertainments sake. You ruin your own viewing experience by over thinking everything and just cheat yourselves out of the thrill of the movie.

  24. Logical question:

    If they were going to take it anyway, why bother trying to use Avatars to negotiate for it? I mean, really, if you've got it in your head that you're prepared to kill innocents to get what you want, why go along with the avatar idea in the first place?

  25. I think you could arrive at an end result like that without such taking such a boring and simplistic path to get there. The western “Broken Arrow” covers similar territory of the conflict between native and more advanced cultures, and comes to a more-or-less amicable relationship by the end. But it was not without tension and drama because while there was the constant attempt by parties on both sides to reach an accord, there were also parties on both sides against such a reconciliation. The interplay of these two forces generates the dramatic aspects and keeps it from being over in two minutes.

    This would however, require that neither one side nor the other be portrayed as generally more pure or necessarily more desirable than the other.

  26. I always find it funny that people that dislike a film go out of their way to pick up plot holes. I absolutely detest 'Stranger Than Fiction' but I'm not about to make an animation about how the boom drops into shot about ten times (if not more) in the film.
    It is an entirely subjective matter to discuss films, there will be people that are willing to try and pick apart the parts that don't necessarily come across clearly, and there are those that can fill in the blanks themselves.

  27. Kofi,

    This is not a knock on you at all but just an attempt to answer the question to this perceived plot hole that the “Should Have Ended” video takes shots at.

    First off let me say that I did enjoy the film but for some strange reason have not tried to see it again which is odd for me as I enjoy watching films like this more than once. I also believe it is not the best film ever made and i believe that the titel of best ever made is too person specific for any one movie to ever come close.

    Q1: So why did Jake Sully not tell the Navi about the quest for unobtanium and thereby allow many on both sides to die?

    1) As others have said, in the beginning Jake was trying to win over the Navi and gain their trust so he could access their ways & customs and provide intell to Colonel Quaritch.

    2) By the time Jake switched sides and decided he should help the Navi defend themselves, revealing to them the reason for the ‘sky people’ coming to their planet/world would be pointless. The Navi believed that all life on the planet including the vegetation (that includes tress) was connected and part of a greater one; in essence their version of the Christian God. The sky people (that’s us) would need to tear up the Navis most sacred place, that big ole tree, to get to the largest source of unobtanium on the planet.

    Even if Jake had told the Navi why the sky people were cutting down trees it would not have done anything to change the Navi’s stance. They aren’t like the native American Indians would could be conned into giving up some land for trinkets or anything else. These trees were a part of their sacred greater being, there is nothing Jake or anyone else could have said or done that would have gotten the Navi to step back and so “Sure you can cut down our most holy of places’.

    Q2: So why then did the sky people bother with the Avatar program if there was no way the Navi would allow the sky people to get to the unobtanium?

    This is easy, we the sky people had no clue, at least at first, how important everything was to the Navi. We assumed it was just a matter of find out out what they could be bribed with but you can’t bride a holy person into giving over that which is most holy to them and that’s where the sky people made their mistake.

    Q3: Why then didn’t the humans (the sky people) just blow everything up to begin with?

    For the same reason that even our own war hungry leaders don’t rush into any place they like and just Nuke everyone & everything; image. No matter how far away they were from Earth, you can bet that if that corporation who was contracted to go and get the unobtanium had just come in blasting without trying any diplomatic solution first, would get some much heat back on Earth for it that they’d never recover from the losses and so enter Dr Grace Augistine and her Avatar solution. It makes the company look good back home and it also comes with the chance for making money off the technology achievements they make in the Avatar program.

    I hope that clarifies some questions about Jakes lack of unobtanium discussions with the Navi in the movie as well as a few other related questions. I really don’t believe this story is as full of loopholes as many have claimed so much as its not as in your face with the answers to those perceived loopholes.

  28. Kofi,

    This is not a knock on you at all but just an attempt to answer the question to this perceived plot hole that the “Should Have Ended” video takes shots at.

    First off let me say that I did enjoy the film but for some strange reason have not tried to see it again which is odd for me as I enjoy watching films like this more than once. I also believe it is not the best film ever made and i believe that the titel of best ever made is too person specific for any one movie to ever come close.

    Q1: So why did Jake Sully not tell the Navi about the quest for unobtanium and thereby allow many on both sides to die?

    1) As others have said, in the beginning Jake was trying to win over the Navi and gain their trust so he could access their ways & customs and provide intell to Colonel Quaritch.

    2) By the time Jake switched sides and decided he should help the Navi defend themselves, revealing to them the reason for the ‘sky people’ coming to their planet/world would be pointless. The Navi believed that all life on the planet including the vegetation (that includes tress) was connected and part of a greater one; in essence their version of the Christian God. The sky people (that’s us) would need to tear up the Navis most sacred place, that big ole tree, to get to the largest source of unobtanium on the planet.

    Even if Jake had told the Navi why the sky people were cutting down trees it would not have done anything to change the Navi’s stance. They aren’t like the native American Indians would could be conned into giving up some land for trinkets or anything else. These trees were a part of their sacred greater being, there is nothing Jake or anyone else could have said or done that would have gotten the Navi to step back and so “Sure you can cut down our most holy of places’.

    Q2: So why then did the sky people bother with the Avatar program if there was no way the Navi would allow the sky people to get to the unobtanium?

    This is easy, we the sky people had no clue, at least at first, how important everything was to the Navi. We assumed it was just a matter of find out out what they could be bribed with but you can’t bride a holy person into giving over that which is most holy to them and that’s where the sky people made their mistake.

    Q3: Why then didn’t the humans (the sky people) just blow everything up to begin with?

    For the same reason that even our own war hungry leaders don’t rush into any place they like and just Nuke everyone & everything; image. No matter how far away they were from Earth, you can bet that if that corporation who was contracted to go and get the unobtanium had just come in blasting without trying any diplomatic solution first, would get some much heat back on Earth for it that they’d never recover from the losses and so enter Dr Grace Augistine and her Avatar solution. It makes the company look good back home and it also comes with the chance for making money off the technology achievements they make in the Avatar program.

    I hope that clarifies some questions about Jakes lack of unobtanium discussions with the Navi in the movie as well as a few other related questions. I really don’t believe this story is as full of loopholes as many have claimed so much as its not as in your face with the answers to those perceived loopholes.

  29. WHO CARES THIS IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE ACTUAL FILM

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