Third ‘Hobbit’ Film Gets a Release Date; Second Film Now Titled ‘Desolation of Smaug’

Published 1 year ago by , Updated December 7th, 2012 at 10:05 am,

The Hobbit Third Film New Title and Release Date Third Hobbit Film Gets a Release Date; Second Film Now Titled Desolation of Smaug

Back when Peter Jackson assumed the directorial role on Warner Bros.’ adaptation of Tolkien’s The Hobbit, it was envisioned as two films, one titled An Unexpected Journey and the other titled There and Back Again. The first film’s title was a creation of the writing team while ‘There and Back Again’ was a reference to the book Bilbo writes to sum up his adventures.

Now that Jackson has revealed he’s going to make three films out of The Hobbit, that original plan has changed. Most figured that the original two films would keep their titles, and Jackson’s third film – which encompasses ancillary pieces of writing from Tolkien and would bridge the gap between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings – would adopt a new subtitle, but that is not the case.

In fact, as The Hollywood Reporter has revealed, the third film in the newly formed trilogy will be titled There and Back Again, and the second film will now be subtitled The Desolation of Smaug. Back when Warner Bros. registered domains for Desolation (and for Riddles in the Dark) we hypothesized that the third and second film might swap titles, and now that theory has been confirmed.

In addition to new titles for the second two films, THR reports that There and Back Again (now the third film if you’re keeping track) will release on July 18, 2014, less than a year after the release of Desolation of Smaug (Hobbit film number two).

It’s a lot of new information for Hobbit fans to take on, but it also makes sense in terms of the films’ presumed layout. An Unexpected Journey is most blatantly a reference to Bilbo Baggins (Martin Freeman) taking on the major quest in The Hobbit, while Desolation of Smaug establishes the setting in part two. Some spoiler-phobic moviegoers are reading the film’s subtitle as telling of its climactic conclusion, but really it’s only a reference to where Smaug the dragon resides.

As was mentioned before, There and Back Again is a title that references Bilbo’s book, and makes for the perfect way to round out the trilogy. This third film will still, likely, encapsulate mostly non-Hobbit storylines, and will be a perfect place for Lord of the Rings‘ cast members like Elijah Wood to reappear.

Smaug Dragon Head Art Third Hobbit Film Gets a Release Date; Second Film Now Titled Desolation of Smaug

Image Credit: David “moonchild” Demaret

In essence, fans now know how Peter Jackson would like to lay things out in The Hobbit trilogy, and more importantly when they will be able to see each film in theaters. There’s still plenty more to be revealed about the movies, including where An Unexpected Journey ends and when Desolation of Smaug begins, not to mention what we’ll actually see in There and Back Again, but we’ll get to that in due time.

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey releases on December 14, 2012; its sequel Desolation of Smaug releases on December 13, 2013; and the final film in the trilogy, There and Back Again, releases on July 18, 2014.

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Source: The Hollywood Reporter

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  1. I’m assuming it’s a typo the first movie is listed as 2014. Other wise you have the second coming out the day before the first.

    • 2013. Speaking of typos.

    • The first is coming out in 2012 the second in December 13 and the 3rd the summer of 14

    • This is starting to be a disturbing trend. Taking a single story and breaking it down into 2 or 3 installments just to rip the movie going public off. Starting with Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Warner Brothers knew they were at the end of a money making series. Even though Order of The Phoenix was about 150 pages longer then either Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows (Both were about 600 pages long) neither the 5th or 6th installment were 2 part movie. Now we have The Hobbit, as a book, was smaller the either one of the 3 parts of The Lord of the Rings series and Warner Brothers has Peter Jackson breaking it down into a 3 part movie. So it is going to be over 2 years before we see the end of this movie. Of course we will need to rewatch the movie to refresh details from the first part and then the 2nd part so that will increase DVD sales. And when it came to the 3 parts of The Lord of the Rings series, Peter Jackson, while directing for Alliance, made a movie out of each book. If this trend keeps up, I can see boycotting of these multi-part movies while they are in theatres. While I am against piracy of DVDs, when I see movie makers doing things like this to squeeze every last cent they can out of the public, suddenly the reasons people pirate movies starts making more sense.

      • Then again if they made it into only one movie it would be like 5 hours long. the hobbit had a lot of awesome scenes that I personally would not get rid of for the sake of making it into one movie. I don’t mind waiting and paying the extra money to see one of my favorite books done very well on the big screen

        • Could’ve been done in two 3 hr. movies if they hadn’t added so much.

      • Blah, blah, blah…..really? A boycott? It’s obvious (you gave yourself away) you will be holding “refresher views” before the very next installment. Just sit back, kick your feet up and enjoy the damn movies, will ya? Cheers.

  2. Will Fox move X-Men Days of Future Past to avoid competition?

    • Probably l

  3. I am sure the december 14, 2013 release date for the first film was just a typo error. :)

    and by the way, isn’t the world ending on december 2012? :)

    • December 21, 2012, so you’ll still have time to see it ;-)

    • Hello from the future! No, the world did not end since the last three months you have posted this. However, we do now have flying cars and everything is chrome. Something to look forward to, huh? Anyways, just thought I’d let you know that Christmas this year was stunning, and I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

    • gess not lol.

  4. So Smaug is released the day before Journey? You may have an error in your dates.

  5. Your article says “An Unexpected Journey” was a creation of the writing team. Well, not exactly. It’s actually the title of the first chapter of the book.

    • It’s actually “An Unexpected Party.” But nice try, Kirk.

      • Nerds…….Nerds!!………….NERDS!!!!

  6. The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey releases on December 14, 2013; it’s sequel Desolation of Smaug releases on December 13, 2013

    Thats great news,no need to wait..and we actually can see the second one before the first ,so COOL !!!

    • lol

  7. The release dates at the end of the article are incorrect.

  8. I would recommend Fox move the date of X-Men now to avoid getting utterly destroyed.

    • Honestly I’m more excited for X-Men

      • Well, you would in the minority, then. There is no doubt that box office receipts will be far bigger for The Hobbit than the X-Men sequel. Still, hope you enjoy both films.

        • Please…..Geeks and Nerds……just unite. Can’t we all, just get along?

  9. Please double-check those release dates.

  10. I’ll wait for the DVD’s………….In this shameless grab for more money…..I’d rather spend my hard earned cash for something I can watch more than once and not pay more than once …………….

    • Sound logic.

    • what are you talking about? I can’t make sense of your comment

  11. Yeah, I think X-Men just got bumped, unless they dont care about making money.

    • X Men has it’s own Nerd and Geek fan base. You just belong to the other side’s.

  12. Some people are crying cash-grab because of the addition of a 3rd film but I couldn’t be happier. I’d much rather a 3rd Hobbit film rather than another remake. Sure WB benefits from extra ticket sales but fans of the series are the real benefactors IMO because we get to visit Middle Earth 1 more time. :)

    • True. The more time in Middle Earth, the better!

      • I’m sub-leasing there.

  13. What I want to know is: when is the Silmarillion 100-part miniseries going to air?

  14. these are good news for me,cause now i know that the battle and most screentime of -smaug- will stay in the second part. and i think the third one will have many referencess from the -silmarillion- guide book about middle earth .

  15. I’m worried that the smallest book is now three movies… If the third film does indeed bridge the gap between The Hobbit and Fellowship than is it really accurate to have the Hobbit name? So many questions, but Jackson hasn’t steered us wrong yet. Well except for King Kong with Jack Black but I’ve already forgiven him for that one.

    • I actually enjoyed King Kong

  16. Only 3 movies for the Hobbit? I have a better idea. Jackson should do a movie for each chapter of the book. This should be no problem since Jackson fans would rave about him even if he filmed paint drying.

    • You speak as if the admiration others have for him is unwarranted. Feel free to belittle him after you’ve directed a series of movies that earned over a dozen Oscars…

      • We get it he owns middle earth. but when Will he challenge himself and leave? After the hobbit Will he just do movies about each character? I mean seriously king Kong and the lovely bones is terrible. I can’t see any reason to deny Peter Jackson is ment to be a great director. but staying in middle earth won’t make me believe he is.

        • Ah, if you will recall, del Toro, not Jackson, was originally supposed to direct The Hobbit, so Jackson is not as obsessive about Middle Earth as Lucas has been about Star Wars. And on another note, I disagree with you about King Kong…I loved it.

          • Loved King Kong…… want to talk about money-grubbing and poor directing and milking a one trick pony? Let’s talk about Lucas, shall we?

  17. I’d prefer the third film to be about Aragorn, his journeys and adventures, in the Appendix, there was a part where he was disguised as a warrior of minas tirith where he helped Denethor’s father attack umbar, that could be used in the third film. They could also bring in the hunt for gollum by Aragorn and Gandalf.

  18. Peter Jackson is slowly turning into George Lucas. It is a cash grab or he’d just have two movies. The lord of the rings is the best trilogy ever but him stringing out three more movies is ridiculous. Just make the Hobbit and There and Back Again and call it a Jackson. What? No other projects?

    • You really “accidentally” hit the send button FIVE times? Come on.

    • No matter how many times you say it, it doesn’t make it true… :)

      • Haha!

  19. Yeah

  20. “Some spoiler-phobic moviegoers are reading the film’s subtitle as telling of its climactic conclusion, but really it’s only a reference to where Smaug the dragon resides.”

    +1 for the reference.

    Here is an semi-official description:

    The blackened and lifeless region that lay around the Lonely Mountain, created by the Dragon Smaug after his capture of the Dwarf-city there. Smaug had spread fire and destruction around the mountain, and no living thing grew within the Desolation.

  21. So the first movie deals with what exactly? Do we know where they are ending it, and each film ?

    • Dude, not matter where each movie ends, your not gonna be happy.

  22. Personally, I would have preferred the release date of the third one to be in the holiday season (just like all the other LotR movies), but other than that, this is pretty good news.

    • i think part of the reason is nobody knows what the 3rd movie Will contain. so making them wait could be unnecessary. not to mention it Will be done by then.

      • Not really sure what you mean…

        We don’t know anything about the third movie NOW, but by next year, there’ll be lots of info and a trailer available.

        I just think it would’ve been nice to keep with the tradition of LotR holiday releases.

        • I concur. It seems odd that the first two movies, but not the third, have December release dates. Perhaps eventually, they will move the third movie back to a December release as well. There are two years between now and then for them to think about it…

        • i also think that they will push the third part to the traditional december releaseses,maybe because of some other summer blockbuster movies which could be too hard concurrence. you know after half year of – the hobbit 2- it would be too early to get in the third part after the viewers already have watched both parts in cinema and the d.v.d releaseses they need a break. or both movies are as good or even better then the – l.o.t.r.trilogy-,then it would can´t come soon enough.

          • correction: i hope this time it is written right ! ….,then it couldn´t come soon enough.

  23. The more Middle Earth the better.

  24. It’s disappointing to see LOTR’s fans are essentially not much different than Star Wars, Star Trek, Transformers or any other fans. Don’t get me wrong; I loved Peter Jackson’s original LOTR trilogy and a big fan of the books by J.R.R. Tolkien, but let’s keep it real: 3 Hobbit movies IS excessive and a blatant money grab, dragging on what was meant to be a short story endlessly. Bridging the films w/ the LOTR trilogy is fine up-to-a-point, but that means w/ 3 Hobbit movies all the “good stuff” like Smaug and the Battle of the Five Armies will be needlessly prolonged w/ a lot of filler material that wasn’t present in the original Hobbit story. The fact is the Hobbit is not that long a story and I wasn’t looking to see all this extra stuff. One has to ask “Is this really ‘The Hobbit’ or something else?”

    To his credit, Peter Jackson pulled off a great feat w/ the original LOTR trilogy, no question about it, but I can’t help but wonder if the Hobbit films will go by way of the new Star Wars Trilogy, which made a lot of money, but are universally panned by most critics & fans. Time will tell. Still, I don’t want to judge the films w/o seing them first. Peter Jackson is a talented director, but he is NOT infallible. Fans should NOT hold everything he does as sacred. Many a great director have ruined their later films by going overboard, ruining their franchises, and along the way, losing their relevance & artistic integrity. I think fans should be a little more objective and not so easily be eager to see the Hobbit linger into 3 films.

    Peter Jackson bucked Hollywood trends by creating the original LOTR trilogy against all odds, and now has seemed to ‘gone Hollywood’ himself, by turning a beloved book into a unneccessary series of films simply because he’s aware fans will buy into it and spend money, no matter what. Having said that, I honestly hope he pulls it off, but the truth is I am no longer expecting a true Hobbit film, but one that simply designed to get people to spend as much money as possible.

  25. just saw the movie last night it was amazing i will not be suprised if its not better than the lord of the rings the attention to detail is awesome

  26. The Hobbit has WAY to much detail and story to tell to squeeze into ONE MOVIE filmmaking is different from novels what’s one chapter might be ONE HOUR in a movie

  27. I think that there is plenty of material in Tolkien’s Hobbit for three films. There is Beorn (Hopefully), Mirkwood, The Wood Elves, Dale and Smaug, and then the big battle. I’m looking forward to Jackson’s treatment of it all, in my opinion he has proven himself a safe pair of hands with Tolkien’s legacy.

  28. cant wait till december!

  29. Some people need to stop moaning about how they’ve added too much and how the next two films will take too long to release’ the films are brilliant and if anything they have been made better, and its something good to look forward too! Credits due to peter jackson.

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