‘Heroes: Villains’ Is Over – What Did You Think?

@SYC

Yeah... I'm sorry Lotta but it seems to me you're just looking for something racial where nothing exists. In season one Jessica did online videocam porn for crying out loud.

Vic

I didn't think Tony was dead (another show), and I sure don't think Arthur Petrelli is dead. Adam Monroe--he sure looked like he cashed in his final chips. Maybe Petrelli's blood will mingle with Monroe's ashes to create one (more) Reset Button.

Maya, the Mexican Mascara Murderess, is "the sexual being"? [rolls eyes]

What about the dozen episodes where Jessica played Internet Temptress and played patty cake with Senator-e_ect Nathan Patrelli.

I don't know about oversexed black women--sure didn't get that vibe from Nana Dawson and Monica.

Why out of all of the people on the show; the sexual being is the hispanic woman. Its almost as bad a cliche as the oversexed black woman!

i loved season 3 except for the three episodes before our father im also dissapointed they didnt do arthur justice he never did much damage but i guess his legacy lives on through Nathan
But killing off Adam and Maury was a bad idea their characters had so much potential
and it was just waisted by them being killed off straight away also the Sylar Elle story was really rubbish
is the world still gonna split in 2?

The Sylar thing has gotten really old too. He's bad, he's good, he's bad, he might be good, oh wait.......nope he's defintely bad. He's dead, he's alive, he's dead, he's alive......oh wait, he might be alive. I didn't think it was possible but they've actually reversed his character development.

I have always wanted to know more about Charles Deveaux (Richard Roundtree) and his powers. Anyone else think this will be explained some day?

From Wikipedia
>> [Deveaux] appeared, whether as a dream figure, as part of a time-travel journey of Peter's, similarly to Sanjog Iyer, or by some other mechanism is left deliberately unclear — and seemed able to see Peter while the latter is invisible to others in the "dream" (Such as his mother and Simone).[10] Charles was part of a previous generation of "heroes", with Angela Petrelli, Kaito Nakamura, Linderman and others, who all were the founders of the Company.<<

Did anyone else think that Mohinder's mutations were transitory? Was anyone else on the edge of their seat when the vat spilled--thinking that at last Mohinder would emerge as some kind of reptillified man?

There are alot of things that I want to say but keep it cool about season 3.. Season 3 was okay but not best.. During season 3 I was looking forward to see Peter get his Girlfriend back, but her Character just disappeared. Oh well, looking forward for season 4.. Man I really was hoping Sylar became a good guy.. Just hope they dont screw up with the plot and make it worst.

Also Mohinder needs to be killed off somehow. Always working for the bad guys but I never really got what was wrong with everyone having powers. In the future episode this season the world looked alright except the Heroes were being hunted which is Peter's fault caused he pissed off Nathan for the last time

Am I the only one who is kind of mad that they killed off Meridith? The show keeps killing off some of its better characters (DL, Nicki, Elle, and now Meridith)I kind of wish Claire or Peter were gone cause they just annoy me. With Peter trying to destroy the formula but he ends of injecting himself with it in the end and Claire just annoys me with the I got to stop bad guys thing.

Season 3 was okay but not as great as season 1 and I kind of liked season 2 more. I like how Nathan is sort of becoming evil and hunting them down because it goes back to the future episode they had in season 1. But its kind of like the X-men and how they were hunted by the government, which could mean that they all finally join together and fight back as one team instead of the little groups.

Sylar is by far the best character but how come they never finish the job when they want to kill him. Cut off his head or something instead of just putting a piece of glass in his skull, which will probably like melt or something because of the fire. I don't want Sylar to die but they should come up with a new villain and it looks like its going to be Nathan. I'm still pissed he killed Elle though, why couldn't she just shock like she did the first time he attacked her?

livings124 & Carl Lee pretty much explained exactly what I felt has led to Heroes downfall. I'll add a few things.

What keeps Heroes from being an absolute failure is that it still has some interesting characters and can come up with equally intriguing moral situations to stick these characters in. That leads to great cliffhangers.

Unfortunately in order to get to these great cliffhangers and situations, the writers make the characters turn stupid when it suits the plots by conveniently forgetting or handicapping powers of the more powerful characters (ie Hiro, Sylar, Peter, Arthur) and abusing the time travel and future predictions. The writers simply introduced too many characters and too many powers without fully thinking through their limits. The peeks into the future whether it be paintings, dreams or time travel really handcuffed the writers often leading to underwhelming resolutions to volume long conflicts.

The end of vol. 3 was a "soft" reset but it was necessary. At least it got rid of all the extra and unnecessary ppl. Although we haven't gotten rid of all the snags (ie Angela can still dream the future) and Sylar is most likely not dead.

I wish this was more like X-men, but it's not. They pissed the evolution theme away entirely. Now its all formulaic and based on the eclipse...

So, Speed can be used to go back in time...and forward again?

I'm not sure I understand how Nathan goes from self-sacrificing hero to whatever he's supposed to be now.

Also, I find myself not liking the Ando, Hiro, Daphne and Parkman plot. It feels so campy and amateur relative to the other story threads...and not really useful.

I've given up on the story of the show and how they use the characters and instead am watching more for fun factor and to see what happens. Which sucks because this show had so much potential. I'm excited to see new additions Michael Dorn and John Glover for next season though.

I hope Hiro gets his powers back but they have to limit The teleporting is a strong enough power to have w/o the time travel ability. Even if they just limit them to him only being able to observe like the watcher or something, but not actually interact with people. Something idk but not so much changing of the past in order to change the future. It wasnt as much complicated as it was just stupid.But thats really my only complaint other than that i enjoyed the season a lot especially Peter. Cant wait for fugitives to begin.

Hmmm....X-menish you say? Perhaps this could be the start of one of my long-standing dreams that the X-men get a live action TV show? That would rule! Do it in the style of the 90's cartoon, but translate it to reality like they did with that show Mutant X(I thought that's what it was at first). That show was pretty cool, but lacked the depth of X-men. It was like if X-men was a soap opera. First six episodes are the origins of Xavier and the First Class, then show the origin of Magneto, and have them battle him for the next three episodes(not all the same fight) finally stopping him, and finishing out season one with an epilogue at the end of the last episode with the new recruits showing up to the mansion, including a large Russian, and African girl with white hair, a German with dandruff all over, and a Canadian with an attitude.

I think the next season looks like it could be good. im also a bit sick of all the time traveling etc. there changing the game around...from heroes vs heroes to heroes vs the govt.(or maybe everyone) yeah, its kinda x-men'ish, but i think a little change will be good

*I meant to say that heroes ripping off x men

If you really want to get technical, Heroes not only is ripping off heroes, but also ripped of Watchmen alot the first season. i mean think about it, a group of heroes try to stop an disastrous event in new york that actually is planed by the HEROES,,,

Although i'm not saying that that was bad, because vol 1 was amazing but it wasn't original,Vol 2 and 3 were pretty bad but they were original. So i think its safe to say that heroes is good at taking old stuff and making them fresh and there's nothing wrong with that. so i think fugitives might just live up to season 1

its gonna be a copy of the second xmen movie. Sylar will have survived the fire out for revenge, but will later join Team Peter to kill Nathan and the other gov't guys. Then, completely unexpectedly (sarcasm), sylar will betray them, and it will start over again, with only a few characters dead (hopefully including Tracy)

Give him his power back :)

So if Hiro has no power, what are they going to do with his charactor?

I hate how people say its an Xmen rip off. Xmen has been around for a long time now, its had basically every power you could think of, of course someone is gonna end up "copying" them. Its like that episode of South Park, every single joke has been used on The Simpsons, doesnt mean no one else can use it. Heroes has a way different vibe anyways imo.

@Daniel F
Hiro will eventually get his powers back in Volume 4. The series doesn't know how to react to someone loosing powers, beyond killing them off or writing them out. And Hiro has such a big fan base they wouldn't dream of either.

@Supernaturalfan, @John "Kahless"
Though Jeph Loeb didn't write Civil War (it was Mark Millar), he's been instrumental in what Marvel has done, so there's no doubt his fingerprints are all over it. The Bryan Fuller article and interview SR posted said Jeph Loeb had things already set in motion before he left.

But now that he's not involved, who knows how close they can come to a good story.

It's only a matter of time before Nathan is donning the red and yellow suit of armour, screaming "Registration!"

"The formula is ripped in half (not entirely destroyed), Peter’s/Nathan’s dad is dead, Sylar is evil, Mohinder doesn’t have powers but is working for the wrong agenda, etc. The only difference is Hiro doesn’t have powers and his sidekick (Ando) has become supercharged."

The formuala was ripped into, what I counted, 8 or more pieces at the end of the episode.

Arthur Patrelli is dead and you see the body this time for proof.

Mohinder was exposed to the formula when it was dumped on the floor. He had a higher dosage than anyone who took the formula. At teh end of the episode he looked in the car window at his reflection and his deformity was gone indicating that he DOES have powers.

What is to stop Peter from getting Ando's power AND Daphne's power so he can time travel on his own?

I think its starting to look like Season 1 Episode "Five Years Later". Where most of them are consider terrorist and are being hunted down. Ex:(Peter, Hiro)

@Supernaturalfan
The whole show is an X-Men clone. I wonder when we'll see giant robots killing mutants? :-)

I enjoyed last night's episode, and look forward to Fugitives. And having Worf (Michael Dorn) only sweetens the pot.

@ Vic, actually i was refering to Vin, he gave out a spoilerish kinda thingie. lol

Does anybody else thing that heroes fugitives looks like they completely stole the idea from x-men? Rounding up heroes/mutants not a very original plot line.

I'm among the few who actually thought season 2 was very good with only a few minor problems. This season however was awful.Time travel can create a lot of problems, but I hate seeing Hiro with out powers. "I Bend time and a space"

I think they got lost this season and didn't fully understand what they were doing.

@Mark
I think Sylar will be back. I love how they keep NOT finishing the job with killing him. Chop his friggin' head off and bury it a mile from his body if you don't want him coming back. :-P

@Oscar
I didn't post anything that didn't appear at the end of the "Villains" finale. :-)

@Carl Lee
See my first point regarding Sylar... Why doesn't someone light a match to the @#$#$%ing formula? Yeesh.

Vic