Rumor is beginning to circulate about which of its top-shelf heroes Marvel plans to recruit for the upcoming, and much-hyped, Avengers movie. Some choices are obvious, due to not-so-subtle foreshadows dropped in both Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. And with the internet recently abuzz with news that Marvel studios was pushing to snag A-list stars for its Captain America movie, that character’s inclusion in the Avengers project is certain. So that’s three Avengers we can expect to see, but who else will make the roster?
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According to Iron Man director Jon Favreau:
“the ones Marvel is talking about now are Captain America, Hulk, Thor, Ant-Man and Iron Man. I would love to see that.”
Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige has also alluded to the fact that Marvel hopes to establish a cinematic continuity in which its characters would be able to “cross into each other’s adventures and occasionally team up if there’s a foe too great for any one of them to handle.” Just what Avengers hopes to accomplish.
But it’ll be a hard feat to pull off, in my opinion. I mean sure, what fanboy hasn’t gotten giddy at the notion of seeing all his favorite heroes battling it out on screen all at once (does that qualify as an orgy?) And reading the quote above, it seems as though Kevin Feige is already drinking the super-group-movie Kool-Aid. However, let’s try an remember that this is the MOVIE industry we are talking about, not the COMIC BOOK industry. Only counting the two movies from Marvel Studios already in theaters, to do The Avengers, you’re talking about getting Robert Downey Jr. to share screen time with Ed Norton, not to mention CGI effect$ out the yin-yang for Shellhead and the Hulk. Factor in Cap, Ant-man, Thor, a CGI boomerang shield, shrinking/growing F/X and CGI lightning, and THEN tell me what the price tag for an Avengers flick will likely be. (And if it will be worth its box office returns.)
Currently, Marvel’s game plan seems to revolve around establishing successful film franchises for each of the individual Avengers heroes, then taking those dividends and investing them in the Avengers project. Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk have both had their turns in theaters, to great or middling success; Thor is tenatively scheduled for a 2010 release; The First Avenger: Captain America is set for 2011; and Ant-Man is still working on nailing down a release date, (though it’s rumored that it will be helmed by Edgar Wright, director of Shaun Of The Dead. A great choice.)
Can the house that Stan Lee built crank out three more box office hits to keep an Avengers film afloat? Can so many big-name, bigger-ego, actors really play nice and make an ensemble blockbuster? Has the term “ensemble blockbuster” ever been used before??? (If not, I claim coining rights.) And will the budget for an Avengers movie really end up being higher than the budget of NASA’s last mission? Only time will tell for sure, but in the meantime, let us know your opinion anyway.
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Greenknight333: Nice read and I agree with your ending comments as well…
Rob: It would be ‘cool’ to eventually see ” New Avengers” 20 years from now. Maybe by then the lincense of Wolverine and the X-Men and Spidey will be purchased back to Marvel.
Also, IMHO, Terry Crews is a 10 times over better pick for Luck Cage then Tyrese Gibson!
“Geez that still is a freakin lot of money for a movie..a movie…People starvin everywhere in the world and I mean everywhere and they spend this kind of money on something that is in no way guarenteed to show a decent return. Sorry to rain on things at the end there but it should be said.”
Yes … BOO capitalism. . Most people who cry about the starving people in the world only do so to make themselves FEEL better (Not pointing at you Green in particular, just in general) without actually doing anything about it.
INK: Fair point made.
Adrian thanks for the kudos!!
INK Just love stirrin the pot huh? My wife and I help support a kids school in Nepal that we helped raised the money to build and we also with 11 other couples provide the funding for 1 month each throughout the year..We send the cash to a friend of ours and it buys food for them while at school, pays the heat bill, buys books and supplies and gives the kids something to look forward to in a country where poor really means something..I was there and it is POOR!! People are starving there and they are still humble and would give you the shirt off their backs. So maybe you should take a look at yourself and see why it bothers you when someone has the social conscience to speak up about how much is wasted in the west by Capatalism and its “fair” idealism…The rest of the world is picking up on the fact of how wasteful we are here in North America and when the shoe is on the other foot they will help us a lot more than we help them..We should be ashamed to even say things like BOO capitalism becuase it speaks to the greed and screw the other guy to make a buck attitude of a lot of people..Sorry guys but a button was pushed by that comment…
I did not mean for my rant to come off as an attack against you Green, but …
“o maybe you should take a look at yourself and see why it bothers you when someone has the social conscience to speak up about how much is wasted in the west by Capatalism and its “fair” idealism…”
I may not be able to circumvent the globe helping people but I am comfortable in the charities I give to and volunteer with.
“The rest of the world is picking up on the fact of how wasteful we are here in North America and when the shoe is on the other foot they will help us a lot more than we help them..”
You’ve got to be kidding. No other country in the world gives more aid, both in dollars and in volunteers than America. If it wasn’t for us, our charity, our economy and our inventiveness (due to capitalism I might add), other countries would be even worse off than they are.
“We should be ashamed to even say things like BOO capitalism becuase it speaks to the greed and screw the other guy to make a buck attitude of a lot of people..”
If you think capitalism relates to greed and “screwing” people then you need a lesson in economics. Capitalism is what makes this country go. Without it WE would be the ones needing aid from other countries. We wouldn’t have the technologies, both in the medical and private sectors THE WORLD enjoys today.
“Sorry guys but a button was pushed by that comment…”
Ditto.
By the way, Green, I am not saying we aren’t a wasteful society. I just don’t think we should feel ashamed that we live in the greatest country on the planet. Nor should we feel guilty for living in a free country and having the opportunities that are present and readily available for those with the passion, and will, to reach out and take it.
No hard feelings, I hope, just a friendly debate.
Oh, and Avengers assemble!
INK I think you are severely misinformed if you think the US is one of the forerunners in aid and that capitalism is the be all and end all of global financial security. I have a friend in INdia who I correspond with regularly..He stated that Coca-Cola had sent up shop in the south of his country and proceeded to pillage the local drinking water to make Coca-Cola..when the locals complained they were offered coke to drink instead of water…..that’s all COKE…There are hundreds of other expamples like this all over the world but you don’t want to see what’s going on in the world because it’s easier to admit that we and the globilization monster that is capitalism is doing more good than bad when in actuality that is the reverse of what is happening..Everything is out-sourced to poorer countries because they are the lowest bidder to make the goods we consume..and it is easier for corporations to exploit resources and individuals so that a privileged few in those countries become wealthier..It’s not because corporations want to protect the middle class and poor…It’s about maximizing profit and to hell with the little guys…Factories are closing all over America and Canada and these jobs are lost forever to places like Mexico, China, India ,etc. Capatilism is all about greed and making as much as you can whenever and wherever you can. I don’t need a lesson in economics…If Capatlism drives the US economy it drives it for the 1% of it’s citizens who control 99.9% of the wealth. You need to do some research dude because you are wrong about US aid. We may be close in terms of raw dollars of aid provided but on a per capita or in terms of GDP we are nowhere near the top of the heap in terms of its charity…Look at the WHite House and how for the last eight years it has destroyed AMerica’s economy and sent the deficit spiraling out of control and it hasn’t been this bad since the Depression…They have done nothing to help the poor get better access to health care, nothing to prevent massive job losses as companies relocate to other poor countries, and nothing about 9/11 except create a lot of death and war in other parts of the world all-the-while stripping us of our God given rights to freedom of speech and freedom of press and throwing the Declaration of Independence out the window while pissing all over individual freedoms and the right to due process with the Patriot Act…Our citizens have allowed this to happen and done nothing to prevent it because we have the illusion from our government that we are safe…IN the words of Austiin Powers “Yeah Capitalism!!” You may think we live in the greatest country on the planet but we are seen abroad as wasteful, ignorant to the rest of the world and stingy to say the least….
I am enjoying the debate and I am not trying to offend anyone but this is not new and has all been said before…We have the potential to be the greatest but we fall short in areas where it really counts in charity, in hope and in inspiration and this is especially because of the Bush Administration…
Cheers
Wow this actually has nothing to do with an Avengers movie…I apoligize for my political ravings but it is a debate…
And INK we should feel guilty because we don’t do more and that is hypocrisy of the soul to say we are the greatest country in the world when our track record clearly does not reflect it.
Cheers
You know… why don’t people lay blame at the feet of the governments of the impoverished countries? Why should I feel guilty if I work hard and apply myself enough to have a nice house and a big screen TV, and the guy across the street lays on his couch all day drinking beer complaining his house isn’t as nice as mine?
Many of the governments of impoverished countries are dispicable, taking advantage of their people, building palaces while they starve, etc.
I believe in helping those who CAN’T help themselves, not in helping those who WON’T.
Vic
EAsy to blame the people when many of them don’t want to die to overthrow a dictatorship..why should they have to die to have the basics. I thought that the basic necessities for human existence should be freely available to everyone. We have lost so much here with the Patriot Act and other bills that are being rushed through for government approval that it may soon be illegal for us to do what we are doing now…having this debate on government. If it became illegal to say anyhting against our government and you knkew you could lose your life and everything you hold dear because of that would you be brave enough to stand up against them…Look at V for Vendetta…could any of us be that brave to stand up against tyranny if it happens here…Let’s not blame those who won’t help themselves when we don’t know if we would do the same…Karen Silkwood anyone?
We should also have a feeling of extreme gratitude that we are blessed to be born into these wonderful opportunities and not feel we are entitled to these things…read the Wealth and Poverty of Nations to get an idea of how lucky we actually are here in the West and Europe..We are lucky and blessed to be able to educate ourselves and our children and work for a better life for our society in general…I think of A CHristmas Carol and the scene where Scrooge asks the ghost of Christmas Present what is moving under his robe and he throws the robe back to reveal two impoverished and malnourished children and Scrooge asks him are they yours Spirit? and the spirit responds “They are Mans.” “And they cling to me, appealing from their fathers. The boy is Ignorance. The girl is Want. Beware them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom, unless the writing be erased. Deny it, slander those who tell it ye! Admit it for your factious purposes, and make it worse. And bide the end!”
I guess those of us in the know and with the means and ability…it is everyones duty to help those less fortunate…
The guy that is across the street and taking advantage of the system will get what he deserves…there are many phrases like You reap what you sow. you get what you deserve, etc, etc. That does not mean that those of us who are better off and have worked hard to get where we are should become apathetic either and forget that it is our responsibility to do more becuase we know better…
CHeers
You miss the point of my statement. I don’t expect starving people to overthrow a dictator, but I also will not take on guilt for what that dictator is doing.
And talking about the government, if the Supreme Court was populated with one more liberal, our right to bear arms would have gone down the toilet today.
I don’t want to get any deeper off topic here, but I have to say that I have very little respect for the politics of the Left – those on the bench voted against our right to defend ourselves today, and on the flip side only a couple of days ago made it illegal to execute men who rape young children. AND those same people who vote against our right to bear arms and think that child rape is not a heinous enough crime to warrant execution, uphold the rights of pornographers under the guise of “free speech.”
I find that dichotomy repugnant.
Vic
Vic I didn’t miss your point at all but you missed mine totally or perhaps ignored would be a better term. I do not own a gun, will never own a gun. If you think it is your God given right to own one then that is your choice. Why people are so hot on the gun issue I’ll never understand when the “right to bear arms” was written four hundred years ago, we were being invaded by England and they were taking everything away from us in the name of colonialism. DO we think that because we are a gun obsessed society that we are better off. I don’t think the English are coming back to take over nor the Pakistanis nor the chinese. If we need guns to feel safe then that is a sad inditement of how we live.You don’t need a gun to defend yourself. The pen is mightier than the sword and those that live by the sword, die by it..I also don’t agree with Capital punishment as it has been shown many times that the wrong person has been murdered after they have been exonerated for the crime in the first place…Nothing is a heinous enough crime to justify the taking of any human’s life even those monsters. It’s a fine line we walk as a society when you pick who should die, the line gets skewed and next thing you know people are dying for lesser crimes (Again V for Vendetta)Who are we to take life when we are so inept at giving something that is so precious back.
ANd since my views would be considered left I guess you find them repugnant as well and I am a God fearing God loving Christian family man..But wait I thought those guys were on the Right…ANd what does the right to bear arms and kill have to do with helping those less fortunate..I really do think you missed my point…
Cheers
The founding fathers view on the right to bear arms was so the citizens could protect themselves from and abusive government. Your “England invasion” example is specious. I find it incredibly ironic that you keep bringing up “V for Vendetta” when that is EXACTLY the reason the founding fathers were so strong about our right to own guns. To protect ourselves from an abusive government, should that ever come to pass. Nevermind the concept of personal protection, as in Australia where all law-abiding gun owners were required to give up their guns and the violent crime rate and burglaries then skyrocketed.
I also find it ironic to hear you say that something “written 400 years ago” has no bearing today, especially in view of the fact that you are a Christian. I’m pretty sure the Bible was written over 400 years ago.
And I’ll tell you what: If someone raped my daughter you’d be hard pressed to keep me from killing him with my bare hands.
There’s no point in any further debate when our viewpoints are so diametrically opposed and I’ve helped hijack this thread enough.
Respectfully,
Vic
Hey…i thought this was about the avengers not open discussion. That was yesterday…right? Smile…. just kidding…
Greenknight333, you bring up good points!!!
Understand that this is NOT by accident, it’s a global adgenda at work.
The greatest form of dictatorship is the “hidden hand”, witch gives you the illusion of freedom while fundamentally controlling your lives, because people do not rebel against not being free when they believe they are…
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Cheers to Vic for putting up with this debate. If we were having this discussion on say Movieblog we would all be censored off by now for sure.
Don’t forget guys, Truth is the Enemy of the state, (not Will Smith)….
SOOOOOO….AVENGERS? yep…Avengers.
So about my Ant-man comments? anybody have any thing to say that’ll make him seem like a better hero?
Can’t Stark Industries donate some equipment for the film?
GK, I have little on Ant Man, this is a question for KEL, I suggest you seek him out……..
Speaking of PG-13, one thing that continued to impress me and confuse at the same time was the death toll in Hulk. My favorite scene was when
Spoilers,,,,,,,,,
Hulk took that piece of metal and dropped that attack copter like it was a rock. That scene looked soooooooooooooooooo real. I was glad they didn’t slow it down til the explosion. I love seeing that kinda of on screen action in realtime!!
But oh yeah back to my point.
He was killing folks in all his brutal glory. They just cut away and didn’t show any blood. Still the same effect if you ask me.
Looked for Cap America didn’t see him at the appointed rumored scene. Wtf?
Ok, green, if you want to chime in again that’s fine but I’m done.
G.K., I think that for the film they’ll reach back to an earlier version of the character, before all this “wife-beater” stuff was introduced to the story. I believe that if they managed to make him heroic and part of the team in the comics they certainly ought to be able to in an Avengers movie. And don’t forget they’ll be doing a standalone Ant-Man movie before the Avengers.
Vic
Before the Avengers?…really? Ant-man? so is this one they are going to surprise us with?..call me MR. OBVIOUS, but I did not see that on the schedule that marvel came out with…and where was the scene that Cap was in? or was said to be in?
Well, that IS my problem with Ant-man, other than a wife-beater. I have never saw him as much as a hero, but that probably comes from the fact I have never read an Ant-man comic in my life or any story with him in it. I’m sure that Stan did a great job with him as a hero butttt can you name any adventure where he did anything at all?
I will say again that none of your argument has anything to do with helping those less fortunate..That is all I will say any further on the matter and let me say I respect your right to have what you want and do as you please…:)
Cheers Vic
No harm no foul, bro.
Vic
I say leave the Ant Dude out of it and bring in the Vision & the Scarlet Witch although since SW is a mutant maybe Fox has rights on that…Vision would be cool with an indestructible Ultron as a possible villian..
Finally… someone mentions “Vision”.
I always thought the Vision was very cool and loved how he wanted to be more human but in actuality he was very human in everyway…His character I mean…maybe just a little too logical…Like Data from STNG.
What no love for Hawkeye?
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