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nowhereman says:

Just finished watching the first episode and I thought it was a step in the right direction.

Matt says:

I just want to know how Sylar survived cause didnt he had a rod or something in his head and in the fire at the end of the season?

blipvert says:

I think it was a giant shard of glass, could have melted?

Gary says:

Dont they seperate Heroes into chapter or Volumes?
This isnt actually a fourth season premiere is it?

arctictwist says:

I am pretty happy with the start, even tho it seems very senator kelly to me. I understand with a topic like this, some lines will be crossed in similiarity. I just hope we dont see giant robots searching them out soon. I also found myself behind sylar when it came to his turn. To me hes like magneto now. My guess on his survival is also that the glass simply melted. I cant wait for next week to see the outcome of the crash and the interaction between clair/HRG over his involvement!

It was a good introduction. This scenario (the heroes finally teaming up) is what we were waiting to happen in season one and never materialized. Hope they take full advantage of it.

My only quibble: If Mr. Bennett was so worried about his daughter, why ally himself with someone who’s out to get the heroes? Sure Claire gets a pass, but his experience should tell him that you can’t trust anyone in this series for more than two nanoseconds, let alone Nathan. I’d really like to hear that one explained.

Sean says:

Even if the glass didn’t melt, the coroner would have pulled it from the back of his head. At which point – a la Claire – he would have come back.

What I am most concerned about is Peter. It seems he has to touch people to get their powers. That I am willing to live with.

However, there are some people mentioning that his powers cannot overlap, ie, when he got Tracy’s freezing power, he lost Mohinder’s super strength. If that is the case, then they have neutered Peter completely, and I will be very disappointed.

@Gary

They’re mixing up broadcast times/formats so much now that it’s getting confusing. This is a new chapter, but with the gap between “chapters” I would pretty much say you could call this a new season, or maybe season 3.5?

Vic

Joe says:

If Peter hadnt lost his super strength when he touched Niki, the he would still have been able to fly from touching Nathan and have the super strength, thus being able to go outside the plane and just set it down…

Great episode!

Dana S says:

@Joe: Interesting point. I haven’t heard/read, nor think that Peter can only absorb one ability at a time. That would be a huge letdown.

One thing I missed or forgot was when Arthur Petrelli took Peter’s powers away. How did he get them back?? Was it all reverted back to original when Arthur died or what??

Oscar! says:

@Vic, Its been the same way since season/chapter 1. During season 1 they had a hiatus in the middle, but it stayed the same chapter. Season two was gonna have 2 chapters(with one starting after the hiatus) but thanks to that lovely writers strike they didnt even have the second part of the season. Now on season 3 we finally had a change of chapters after the hiatus :) Hope i made sense.

Oscar! says:

@Dana, He can only have one powers(looks that way atleast) When he took Tracy’s freezing ability he was shocked, and felt pain when he punched that guy. That would also explain why he didnt just fly out instead of holding on. Oh, and he got his power back after he injected himself with the syrum before the place burnt down.

@Dana-Peter got his powers back in the last episode. UselessMohinder brewed up that batch of SuperPower juice. Peter destroyed the lab but there was one vial left. He used it when he saw NastyNathan was in trouble and flew out with him. And then NastyNathan basically called him an idiot for doing so.

So I wonder if Peter has his dad’s power and actually takes other powers or if he is still just absorbing them

Dana S says:

@Oscar, Thanks for the clarification on the syrum. And man what a bummer if that is the case with him only possessing one power. I can only assume they have a plan with these changes and will make the best of them!!

Lord Garth Formerly of Izar says:

Still Lame. So much potential here, interesting charismatic actors and characters, neat premise, god aweful storytelling. If JMS wasn’t such a big shooter now he would have been a great candidate to take the helm (especially since this is a ripoff of his Rising Stars series). Some say the show should have gone darker, a few more optimisitc. Don’t think that’s the problem, it’s the crap stories and WWE like character flips each week and that there is absolutely no sense of loss as if marketing execs run the show (which they do) and they refuse to let a character truely die for fear of losing a marketing chess piece. I’m officially done, can’t even do the fast forwarding DVR thing with it anymore.

Bill Blume says:

Overall, I felt this was one of the strongest starts to a chapter they’ve had within the series. Too often, they’ve resisted bringing all the characters together into one place, and I think that’s been one of the major mistakes within the series. Season Two ended with so much promise, the possibility of the “heroes” uniting in some way. Yes, this seems a very “Superfriends” in concept, but it’s a logical progression to the series. If the past few seasons have made anything clear, it’s that this generation is trying to avoid the mistakes of the previous one… which did unite into a group of “heroes” with a goal to protect the world. I think it’s unavoidable that they have to unite, so then it becomes a question of whether they can do it and not become corrupted by their powers.

One thing I am glad not to see at work, right now, is all the time-travel business. That really got out of control. If they let Hiro regain his powers, I just hope they limit his abilities somehow so we don’t see a repeat of the previous two seasons in which his time-hopping got out of control and confused the story.

@Bill Blume

“One thing I am glad not to see at work, right now, is all the time-travel business.”

Amen to THAT!

Vic

Mark says:

I was actually not happy to see that they started the series off with Ali Larter, but the scene they constructed to set the tone was brilliant and I was immediately pulled in. The dramatic tension seems to be back. The last couple seasons lacked the dark character-driven drama. If the season keeps the tone set by this Volume’s premier, it will be some great TV.

@Vic – To answer your question: Each story arc is a Volume and each episode a chapter. So, the Fugitives premier was Volume 4: Chapter 1.

Mark says:

Oops! I meant premiere (as in season premiere), not premier (as in a foreign leader).

@Mark

Funny, I had the exact same reaction when she was the first person to appear in the episode.

Vic

HuggyBear says:

Nathan is starting to get on my nerves. I hope they kill him off for good in this season (they “killed” him twice until now)

Alex-Fresh says:

okay, something that’s been bugging me ever since I saw the premiere, are they giving Sandra Bennet the boot? The worst thing a TV show can do is boot someone without literally showing it (ie Monica, disappearing completely). Sandra was one of the best non-heroes, if you will.

Daniel F says:

I thought it was a great improvment. My biggest problems are Nathan and HRG. Both are characters I was really behind at first, but I think they have really lost touch with these two especially HRG. He had some much development and then to just go back to what he was possibly even worse is sad. I am also disappointed that I still have to deal with Ali being in the show ugh. Maybe they can kill her off and bring her back as yet another character that no one gives a crap about.

Alex-Fresh says:

I have actually always enjoyed Ali Larter’s character. The character I have, from day 1, wanted to see killed off, is Mohinder. Annoying, wimpy, unbelievable… there’s something about him

ParrotSoup says:

I actually really liked the fact that Peter can only have 1 power at a time. It will create an interesting dynamic. Lets say they bring in some other heroes, or villians i guess, to bring down the fugitives as they are running through the jungle. While giving them the slip peter absorbs the power of one of the awesome villians. But now later, if its easier to absorb someone elses power to get through a situation does he get rid of the sweet awesome power that may come in handy later or ditch it for a power that will help out the group now. He will have to make some decisions.

I didn’t like that Parkman now has the seeing the future power. If they were going to give that power to everyone, then why kill off isaac in the the first season. I liked him. And it was a big deal to kill him off because it created that story line of finding his paintings. But with everyone getting his power his death was pointless.

To Vic -
I would like to hear what you have to say about mohinders change of opinion. Because i am pretty sure i would do the same thing even if i said it sounded like a good idea. I am pretty sure he was just thinking, “these guys have guns, i could die”

I do think its headed down the right track though.

@ParrotSoup

What the hell, I’ll pop open a can of worms.

My point was that he was OK with the idea until it affected him personally. What came to my mind was the gun control folks: Talking about how dangerous guns are and how laws should be more restrictive and law abiding citizens shouldn’t be allowed to carry them…

…and then suddenly being faced with a mugger late at night pointing a gun at them and their family, or having an armed robber break into their home in the middle of the night.

Suddenly keeping guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens might not sound like such a great idea after all.

Vic

Dana S says:

@Vic

Great analogy! I FULLY agree! :D

ParrotSoup says:

I agree as well Vic. Very Nice!

Matt says:

Can Peter only have 1 power at a time now and does he absorbe it like he used to or like his father did. Cause when he touched Mohindar’s hand it look like he was stealing his power. If thats true I’m happy he can only have one at a time, Sylar is the only on to me that can have multiple powers and I still dont get how he survived. Did the piece of glass in his head just melt or what. Maybe there will be a flashback episode to explain the missing 2 monthes

Ken says:

What if peter is still re-learning and i wonder if he stole those powers or just absorbed them. If he is re-learning, maybe eventually he’ll be able to open up the vault, so to speak, and use which ever he likes, much like his father.

I wonder now, if sylar will be looking for a “brotherhood” to kind of help him out. While he is a formidable opponent, theres only so much one man, no matter how powerful, can take.

Sylar's Hunger Continues says:

Random Observations

* YAY! No more pretentious, say-nothing Mohinder narrative!

* Did I notice some creative wording in the TV intro to Senator Nathan? The voice referred to his “meteroic rise” and his agency’s “unprecedented (un-presidented) access” to information.

* Hiro’s “Lair.” Haha.

* Seems they have backed off the totally goofball antics of Hiro & Ando. Light hearted, but not nerve grating.

* The music score sucks. I’m SO TIRED of the character-specific music, like chimes/bells for Sylar (the ticking is okay). I’m sick of the whiney moany cultural music.

* Unfortunately from this episode and the previews, it looks like Nathan and Jessica/(whoEVER), are prime characters. Please, Vortex Man, come back and suck her away from the show!

* I liked that we joined our friends after some time has elapsed. Look, we wanted the show to have a massive RESET Button, I’m willing to not get explanations on every single development, including how some of them have their old jobs back.

* Another thing I’m willing to forgive, since it moves the story along quicker (something the show has never been known for), is that the heroes were all nabbed & bagged in one episode.

* Not sure why every hero wore dark hoods & goggles.

* I like that Peter’s absorption powers are tactile and can be seen.

* Do we really need to know how Sylar escaped? Didn’t Season 2 teach us that the answer can be worse than the suspense? We all knew he wasn’t gone–after all, NBC could basically rename this the Sylar Hour, co-starring Heroes.

* I like the tighter focus and the character-centric story. If it brings them together, good job. I can forgive the super cliche ‘government security agency goes overboard and violates rights’ premise if it’s only a backdrop to interesting developments.

* Which hero was pulled out of the airplane, and how long before they show up again–because no one ever dies in this show.

* The term ‘abilities’ is SO Smallville.

* Parkman is visited by the African painter dude and his powers are enhanced and (yawn) he has another destiny. What’s up with that? Didn’t the writers get the Fan Memo that we’re tired of arbitrary character or power switches?

* Is there something in the NBC-Heroes charter that guarantees comic style predictive drawings by a character every year? They are vaguely drawn (yet the characters immediately interpret each stick figure and situation) and serve as intentional misdirection rather than the writers relying in actual withholds and reveals.

Panda says:

This episode was much more promising than the Villains arc. Call me simple (I didn’t hate TF afterall), but it’s nice to have an episode where we don’t two versions of any characters (ie. future Peter, present Peter, black-hair Clair, blonde Clair, sheesh”

Liam says:

Heroes is watchable again!!! However I agree with the apalling (sp?) nature of Mr. Bennett… Mohinder I was ok, Nathan’s is giving me a sense of anger towards the character that’s rightfully given to a villain (unlike that of papa Patrelli). Go Sylar good job Claire and I can’t wait to see what happens next!

Bill Blume says:

@Sylar’s Hunger Continues

Ref your comment, “The term ‘abilities’ is SO Smallville,” what would you have them call their abilities? “Powers” isn’t really all that original either. Ditto for “mutations.” God forbid, “enhancements.”

Also, I think the point of the hoods and goggles was to dehumanize the prisoners, take away their individuality. It’s easier to do something inhumane to someone who doesn’t seem human. That and it just made it easier to put other prisoners in the plane without having to really cast a fresh character (which from a budget standpoint, makes total sense).

Many of your other points, though, I have to agree.

T says:

Well, As far as the hoods and shades, generally something like that would be done to keep someone from knowing where they are going and keeping them disoriented so that they neither know who is with them(and have the possibility of planning/coordinating an escape)nor know exactly who is involved in their punishment/capture/exile in case they were to make it back and have thoughts of revenge.
The other aspect of Peter’s ability change, what good would it do to abduct and send away someone who could just fly and figure out where he was and how to get help? There IS the possibility that Peter can only ACCESS one ability at a time(and that option may be a later development as well)and has a lengthy delay swapping between abilities, but more than likely the re-injection of the serum gave him a variation of his original abilities(possibly even giving him a Sylar like “need” to absorb new abilities, which would place them in added danger wherever they are).
Now all I really want to know is, who got sucked out of the plane?

ken says:

I too really want to knw who the poor soul is that flew outta the plane! Well have to wait and see. And i cant wait to see how HRG tries to explain his involvement in this whole thing to clair so that it seems like its ok….and what the real reasons are.

huntthejest says:

I am so pissed at even the possibilty of Peter being relegated to Rogue status. And not Rogue as is like Sylar whose motives are never clear(which wasn’t extremely annoying until season 3) but like X-men Rogue, only less interesting. He was the greatest hero of them all, the reason I watched the show. And, when it all boils down to it, Sylar is THE VILLAIN and has been all along. And if he’s going to be stopped, there has to be one hero that can face him. Enter Peter Petrelli. I think there’s the story arc right there. The rest of the heroes band together to stop Nathan’s meta-human internment camps and his “final solution” while Sylar has become a true force for evil(cover in blood, “Are we having cake?”) and Peter is the only one powerful enough to stop him! Of course, it’d also be awesome if they somehow make Peter and Claire not related so she can finally be something other than the girl everyone keeps trying to keep out of stuff, but instead becomes the hero’s heroine(you know what I’m saying). Mohinder needs to meet up with Parkman and they both go on a spirit walk, where Mohinder runs into his little sister, and is ashamed of the way he’s acted. He’ll get off the fence then. Parkman(sigh) will finally go in the same direction for an entire season(they seriously have yet to make up their mind what to do with him, and none of the options have been interesting) and he and Daphne decide to start a family or something that gets rid of him. Hiro needs to regain his powers partially. Teleportation-yes, time-travel- a very limited version. I hate to reference a video game here, but like in Prince of Persia, where you can wind back like 30 seconds and stop something from happening. That in itself is an awesome power. And freezing time. Gotta get that back. Ando the super-charger? That’s the lamest power ever! Unless they somehow use him to get Hiro’s powers back(as mentioned above) or boost Peter’s power back to full strength for the final Peter/Sylar showdown.

Sylar's Hunger Continues says:

-huntthejest

I think the S1 finale was supposed to be the big Peter vs. Sylar showdown.

Good scenario–the government rounds up heroes while Sylar commits mayhem. But I think as the season progresses, there will be one or more high profile things that will require truly heroic intervention (as one of the early comments suggested), or maybe a common evil.

My prediction–and my eyes didn’t go white–is that by the end of the volume, government will let the heroes go their own way, having learned respect for the good intentions and social value of the gang. Some may choose to return to civilian lives, and some to public service as *really* special agents.

Rob Keyes says:

Wow.

I was VERY disappointed with season 2 and even more with season 3. It had passed the line of being awful and most of my friends had completely given up on it.

That being said, the Volume 4 opener was AMAZING.

It was shot very Cinematic style and felt like I was watching it in a theatre. The acting and dialogue was MUCH improved and it seemed like they were setting up roots for a story I’ve been waiting for all a long.

I hope something bigger comes from Hiro’s lair in the future… like the whole team being there maybe… a la X-Mansion.

A major improvement and step forward… let’s hope they keep that up… because they need to.

@huntthejest

“here you can wind back like 30 seconds and stop something from happening.”

THAT was one of the BIGGEST problems with last season. Huge problem IMHO right from the get-go.

- Speed-girl snatches the formula as soon as Hiro opens the safe.

- Hiro stops time fast enough to catch her in the office.

- Instead of grabbing the formula out of her hand, Hiro stops to chat with her. (duh)

- She knocks him out and gets away. Um, go back in time to before you opened the safe and DON’T OPEN IT.

Problem solved.

Vic

Dana S says:

OK so if Peter can only possess one person’s abilities, then consider this. Sylar is shaping up to be the supervillain again that nobody can seemingly stop. Well then, enter Peter who touches HIM and gains ALL his abilities!!

“Oh well that’s just an even match and Sylar will have the upper hand since he knows them better” you say? Enter ANDO the crazy ability supercharger! Ando just soups up Peter’s ability and Peter squashes Sylar like a bug!

Ok then where to go next with the series…. hmmm…. =P

Bill Blume says:

@Dana S

I just hope you haven’t ruined the rest of the season for us! ;0) Although, I’d be surprised if Peter would take on Sylar’s power again, after his last experience with it.

@Vic

Time travel is such a bloody difficult thing to handle in writing. That Heroes did such a good job with it in “Season One” is part of the reason its mishandling in the following seasons has been so dreadful. I’m ready to see these heroes let loose with their powers. The scene we had in Season One where we saw some of them in the future go off on a bunch of guards was just great. It’s time to quit having them learn their abilities and just use them.

Dana S says:

hahaha… oh I’m sure I didn’t… as plausible as my ideas seem in my head (and apparently others’) it never ends up turning out that way! And good point about the “urges” that Sylar has.. might turn out pretty nasty being amplified by Ando. Yikes! 8-0

Rofler says:

@Vic
“go back in time”
I thought one of the highlights of season 1 was Hiro’s short arc with Charlie, as it demonstrated that traveling back in time wasn’t really plausible (although they managed to screw that up a bit by sending him back to feudal Japan and back with Claire and all the backwards time travel that shouldn’t really have been possible)
So in my eyes he couldn’t really just go back and not open the safe.

All in all I thought it was a strong season opening, even if it did seem like Heroes meets Prison Break meets Lost.

Scout says:

i really hope peter gets his kickass powers again

Scout says:

i really hope peter gets his kickass powers again and like becomes the badass future him with the scar and stuff

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