Alan Moore Wants Fans to Boycott Brett Ratner’s ‘Hercules’

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The Rock as Hercules Alan Moore Wants Fans to Boycott Brett Ratners Hercules

The earliest available official PR materials for Hercules do list Steve Moore’s name (but not that of Admira Wijaya, the artist for The Thracian Wars), but the poster and first trailer for the film appear to have been released in late March 2014, after Moore’s passing on March 16th.

When THR reached out to MGM about this issue, they released the following statement:

“MGM licensed the feature film rights from Radical Comics and fulfilled all contractual obligations. Steve Moore was a legend within the comics industry, whose work we greatly admire.”

“Contractual obligations.” This phrase is really what it all boils down to. MGM’s somewhat chilly statement appears to be the final word on the subject. The Byzantine nature of Steve Moore’s final contract with Radical apparently removed the clause which would owe Moore any money at all, much less the “paltry 15,000″ Moore angrily asked for when he learned of the impending film adaptation.

The exploitation of writers within the entertainment industry is nothing new, but while it’s unclear how much or how little Steve Moore’s name was used to promote the movie before his death, his name is very clearly included on the current poster, in as big a font size as Brett Ratner’s.

What do you think, Screen Ranters? Will this put you off of Hercules? Sound off in the comments.

Hercules opens in U.S. Theaters on July 25th. 2014.

Source: Bleeding Cool, THR

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  1. To everyone on this page: WE GET IT, HE MADE A BAD X MEN MOVIE. GET OVER IT!!!!!!
    Thank you and good day.

    • I just looked up all Ratners work, and there were plenty of movies I liked. The ones I didnt like were mostly just because I wasn’t into the premise of the movie. X men was bad yeah, but at the same time wasn’t he kind of breaking ground with that movie? It’s not like comic book movies were everywhere then. I hate to admit it, but the rock is a good actor, he was good in the scorpion king so I can see him pulling this off.

      • Yeah I don’t like the idea of ignoring an entire filmography due to one film.

      • Breaking ground? With the third movie in a series? Ohhhhkayyyyy… And The Rock is a good actor… Huh! When did that happen? All of Ratner’s work ranges from mediocre at best to abysmal, so I definitely can’t see this team of hacks pulling it off.

    • Wow… your post changed my whole perspective on the matter. Thanks!!


      • Lol sorry. I should just keep to myself then.

        • You have the right to voice your opinion just like any of us. The thing is, Ratner has made much more than one bad film, which is why your pissed off comment was met with sarcasm. Actually, we’re still waiting for him to make a single good one…

          I do enjoy a movie so bad it becomes fun to watch every once in a while, but Ratner’s are just bad enough to be lame. If you’re content with mediocrity, suit yourself, that’s your problem after all. Us connoisseurs have a little more self-respect and better things to do with our lives than waste them on poor art.

          • Ratner directed “Red Dragon” which is superior to anything done by guys like Whedon or Singer. Of course, it doesn’t have any superheroes in it, so most of the “connoisseurs” on this site forget about it.

            • Umm no, it was a weak attempt at surfing on the success of Silence of the Lambs. Granted, it’s hands down his best film but you can’t honestly compare it to Usual Suspects or Whedon’s entire career.

  2. In the situation the studio is in I would be tempted to say to Alan Moore and the viewing public, “this is our representation of Steve Moore’s work, but we will contribute a million dollars to Moore’s estate in appreciation for his series.”

    • A million bucks? Dude, they reneged on paying him a mere $15,000 when they inked the deal behind his back. The studio was well-aware he didn’t want his name credited to the project when he was alive, only to — again, behind his back — add his name afterwards.

      The studio is ran by the typical cheap, cheating, and lying Jews as it’s ever been. Wake up!

      • No reason to be so bigoted David.

  3. Alan Moore has a point here… unfortunately he’s kinda a lunatic and it’s harder to take him seriously because everything seems to sets him off these days.

    Both MGM and Radical Studio’s are in the wrong. Radical screwed Steve Moore in his contract and MGM is now using his name because he’s dead and he can’t stop them.

    For people who say they don’t care here’s a question for you. Are you sick of remakes and reboots from Hollywood? You ever wonder why companies like Marvel and DC don’t actually create any new characters? Instead every few years just repackage and gender/race swap existing characters? It’s this type of crap right here. Creative people are not willing to create new characters for them. Part of why Alan Moore left DC with a vengeance. Nobody wants to end up like Jack Kirby by create anything new and get screwed. It’s why Steve Moore just re imagined Hercules instead of creating something completely new… well that and marketability with the name Hercules.

    So unless you like seeing the same old redundant stuff just constantly repackaged every year or so, that is why you should care about creators. Their not all prima donnas.

    • Yikes. Grammar!

    • Why is he a lunatic?? Explain… with examples please….

      Lot of things set me off too.. btw… guess Im a lunatic too..

      • Just his Brought to Light comic was enough to prove that to me – the one that used the Christic Institute as a primary source. Or his rant about how he hates Americans. Or how the comic industry is “ideologically flawed.”

        The guy is a raving Left-wing moonbat, and has been for decades now. Case closed.

        • But I agree, the comic book industry IS ideologically flawed. Just because you disagree with his political ideology doesn’t give you the right to call him a nut-case my friend. In the world of blogs, Twitter, and online websites, Moore is EXTREMELY laconic about his ideas and appears only once in a while to give his opinion about the way the world works. Y’know, the important things about the world and what he thinks about them — like politics, like corporatism, like art.

          You seem to disagree with his political affiliation. I’m genuinely interested to know what you think of Frank Miller in light of his recent remarks. I don’t hate him. I hated the way he handled a lot of things and I disagree with his politics. It made me go re-read his work and realise that it was SO WELL WRITTEN and produced that despite his Right-wing politics, the stories themselves were broad enough to allow my own political conclusions to be made. Same with Alan Moore. You can read V For Vendetta as propaganda, but you can also read it as an exploration.

          • Ummmm he is a nut case.

            • Why? For having a different political opinion than Hollywood?

    • I don’t mind reboots or remakes, to me that’s been done since the dawn of literature. Hell, all of Shakespeare’s stuff were “remakes” to a certain extent. I’m glad that Chris Nolan rebooted Batman. I’m genuinely excited about the way the upcoming Flash series. And X-Men First Class was brilliant.

      The truth is, these characters have become modern-day myths and that sort of legacy comes with re-tellings every generation or so. The problem with Hollywood’s trigger-happy reboot finger is that they just do it unnecessarily — it was fine to reboot RoboCop after so many decades, the world has changed and the audience has changed, but the RoboCop concept of a cop who is dehumanized by corporate capitalists trying to cash in on crime wave, the relevance of the RoboCop concept to drone-technology today, is all relevant and translates well into a fresh and modern retelling. Alan Moore himself retold the literary legends in A League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Inter-textuality will always exist. Reboots and remakes are normal. The problem arises when studios like Sony decide to reboot a series of films like Spider-Man SO FAST. There was absolutely no other reason to make a new Spidey trilogy other than their need to cash in on the character. That sort of reboot I am against.

      Batman’s appearance in Dawn of justice feels exactly like that, but in a world where Before Watchmen exists, Batman never even had a chance.

    • It’s not only that, it’s that most major companies won’t take risks. Also, most movie goers want ‘more of the same’, they WANT sequels, and rehashes. Because tickets are being sold for them over everything else…

  4. I didn’t want to see it when I heard Brett Ratner’s name. I didn’t know it was based on a comic, much less one I’d never heard of from a company I’ve never heard of.

    I won’t see it, but it’s hardly a boycott for me.

    • My thoughts exactly, Brett Ratner = no thanks. I also had no idea this was based on a comic.

      And someone should put together a video of every movie/tv character that yells out, “I AM __________!” Bet that video would go on for hours.

      I’ll probably just Redbox this one.

      • “I am that I am.” (or “I shall prove to be what I shall prove to be.”)
        “I am what I am and that’s all that I am, I’m Popeye the Sailor Man!”
        “I’m Batman.”
        “I am vengeance. I am the night. I am Batman.”

        • I am Groot

      • Yeah, when I heard him yell “I am Hercules” I lost all interest in the film. It just sent too many signals about what the film was trying to be. I’m not saying it sucks, I am just betting that it does. Further, it’s not a good sign when you have to tell people who you are, and it surely is some off putting arrogance to go about declaring it. Did we learn nothing from the terrible 80’s girl band cartoon “Jem and the holograms”? She sang “Jem is my name!” That right there was a dead giveaway that we really shouldn’t be paying attention to her in the first place. (I’m making a point,… but also kidding.)

  5. Wow. I am shocked. I am shocked at all of the vile things said towards Alan and Steve Moore. Is this really what this comment board has degraded to? Seriously, how can you all be so disrespectful towards a dead man? I’ve been a member here for a couple of years now, but I’ve never seen such enmity towards someone. I am truly disgusted by this.

    Steve Moore was a man who put his heart and soul into his work, only to have it be stolen from him through studio contracts and then bastardized into this movie. His only saving grace was that his name would not be part of this, which the studio did when he was alive. Do you really not think something wrong of the studio for ignoring his wishes and putting his name after he died, when they know full well he was against this. How disrespectful are they towards the legacy of a dead man to do something like this? How disrespectful are you for supporting this? Seriously? Have you all just descended into internet trolls at this point? This is so embarrassing of this website and of this comment board.

    *Aimed only at the people who posted hateful and disrespectful comments.

    • I’ve only counted 2 comments here that were somewhat insulting to Steve Moore. It’s mostly been insulting to Ratner and dismissive of Alan Moore. It’s hardly enmity.

      Why insulting to Ratner? Well, you didn’t care enough to defend that guy.

      Why dismissive of Alan Moore? Well, he does this once in a while. He gives an interview railing against someone or something in comics or film. But, you didn’t mention him either.

      Now, there have actually been a few comments here that swept Steve Moore in with Alan Moore as pretentious, or stated that his contract worries are over since he’s dead. 2 comments. 2. And that’s what they said.

      • @Not Ben: “Why dismissive of Alan Moore?…He gives an interview railing against someone or something in comics or film. …But, you didn’t mention him either.”

        He DID mention him (Alan Moore):

        @Appa AA: “Wow…shocked,…shocked at all of the vile things said towards ALAN (Capitals for effect;-) and Steve Moore. …I’ve been a member here for a couple of years now & never seen such enmity towards someone…truly disgusted by this.”

        You see Alan’s name right there – 1st sentence, far right – in MsgBrd brown & black.

        • Cool.

  6. I don’t like this guy! He’s been complaining for decades about each and every adaptation of his own graphic novels and now he goes on ranting about his friend’s work being cannibalized by the evil movie studios…

    It’s so ridiculous. From where I’m standing, even the worst movie adaptation imaginable is better than no movie version… because, guess, what, I don’t read or care about any comic books, graphic novels or even real novels for what it’s worth…

    I like MOVIES, and I don’t care if they are based on Shakespeare or Mattel toys… the source material being adapted faithfully or butchered… if the movie is decent enough, I’m in… Without a movie, I wouldn’t even know about the story…

    I know lots of people have greater respect for the source material, I just don’t… It’s paper and print, nothing “real”… the illusion of reality starts with the movie version… no matter how badit may be…

    • Good grief.

      • Ha! Succinct rebuttal. I don’t share smike’s perspective, or think very highly of it, but not only does he (sort of) have a point, he has a right to his wacky perspective. He said what he likes, and in that sense nobody can say he’s wrong. Lots of opinions out there…

        • Of course.

          • Ben? Is that you, Ben? No…no it couldn’t be. I was mistaken. Well, whoever you are, you seem to be capable of human conversation. A rare sort when it comes to comment threads. Cheers.

        • Many opinions, few are true.

          Too bad so sad.

          Read a book smike or no dessert for you!

          lol 😉

      • Good grief indeed.

        • Now that the better part of a solar day has past, I’ll explain my brief diss.

          For thousands of years, we’ve been telling stories. It’s in our blood, it’s in our nature, it’s integral to our interaction, and it’s absolutely how we learn.

          “Sequential art” and then writing are some of the earliest ways to preserve storytelling, but there is evidence that the human capacity for memory was much greater in times when writing materials were not easily available. This meant that honesty and attention to detail was all the more important. But in time, things were put into writing.

          Writing could be expensive at times, but it wasn’t that expensive. Surely, it was nothing in comparison to big budget, mass-production films of today. These films require changing details to suit larger audiences and regain with a profit all the money spent to produce the film, they require huge contracts with a variety of individuals and corporations which are indeed violated at times. Promises are broken. Rough edges are cut off or sanded down. Even huge details are changed around for reasons as pitiful as supposed marketability or that someone just thought it would be cool.

          That’s film. Because the film industry is (firstly) an industry. It’s a circus.

          That’s partly why you should care about the source material and the people who created it. Occasionally, the adaptation surpasses the source. It’s not that one is always superior or inferior to the other. That’s fine.

          But to cut off the original story in favor of a mass-market, big-budget, $8-popcorn-all-over-the-floor industry? Wow. Just wow.

          • Disregard for artists and artistic integrity is consistently a depressing reality. I like your point about not equating “newer” with “worse” or any other obligatory detraction. Though it’s often a safe bet that the newest version of something has been soul-sucked, dismantled, rebuilt by committee, and utterly ruined for the sake of marketability, sometimes over the dead bodies of those who created the original work, it’s not a hard and fast rule.

            As an example, I was a fan of Batman when I was a little kid, but it is the second Nolan movie, in my opinion, that has not only made the most enjoyable version of the mythos, but in many ways the most appropriate realization of the characters. In retrospect, the campy Adam West show was deeply inappropriate to the subject matter, and even the original comics did not achieve the inherent darkness and complexity that was bubbling beneath the surface. In other words it took decades of (often misguided) rebirths before Batman became what it feels like it was always meant to be: a dark, adult story of pathologies, madness, obsession, pain, fear, violence, dedication and incompatible perspectives. I never delegitamize that movie because it wasn’t the original creator’s work.

            Btw, the Before watchmen story of the Comedian is really good! Haven’t read any others yet.

    • Looks like someone lacks imagination when they’re reading.

      • Assuming they can read.

    • How is paper and print less “real” than celluloid, exactly? Hell, celluloid doesn’t even exist anymore, movies are now virtual data feeds that have no physicality whatsoever. Yes, I’m aware you’re probably talking about experiencing the story rather than the physical medium itself, but then mentioning the medium makes no sense at all.

      At any rate, you SHOULD read, for the sole reason that it makes you exercise your grey matter by tapping into your own imagination, rather than be content to get spoonfed with visuals created by others.

      The illusion of reality starts within one’s own head.

  7. He is right !
    Those greedy companies really do not care about the creative people,just use them and suck them out !

    It’s a shame how they treat Moore and now use his name to promote this film !
    Should respect his wishes !

  8. Boycott? You had me at ‘Brett Ratner’.

  9. Alan Moore has a good point, but you had me at Dwayne ‘THE ROCK’ Johnson.

  10. A Polynesian Hercules? WTF?

    • It’s more than stringent faithfulness to the source, the responsibility of a film-adaptation first and foremost is to be a GREAT film. Thing about Watchmen is that as a graphic novel (indeed, one of the first graphic novels ever which had a self-contained story instead of years and years of continuity) was that it was unique and somewhat revolutionary. It was THE DARK KNIGHT of comics. Unless they did that for movies, it is sort of a failure in my eyes.

      Don’t get me wrong, I love Watchmen, I still think that Alan Moore’s brilliant writing manages to translate extremely well into film, but that is true for all of his stories if they were handled with the same love that Snyder had when making the film. The film stands as a direct translation of sorts, panel-for-panel, and remains one of my favourite superhero films because of that. It’s a unique sort of film on its own, like Sin City and 300.

      But it reeks of b-film standard effects and forced grandiosity, something that the original book never had. It also places too much emphasis on the superheroes whereas the original had a significant amount of subplots devoted to the regular guys looking up to the sky.

  11. I was gonna see it in cinemas, but after reading this I’ll torrent it. They don’t deserve my money – people who do still want to see this I’d recommend doing the same.

    • How much do you want to bet that you’ve paid to see at least one movie that was based on the the creativity of a “jilted” creator. Your stand is admirable but in the end it utterly useless.

      To each their own.

      • Seriously.

        You’re talking about a sausage factory. You’d rather steal sausage if you know how it’s made than buy sausage, when you could do neither and choose a different dish.

        Do as you please, but that reasoning is flawed.

      • Taking a stand, or doing something for honor,
        is not about practical…
        also does it give voice to integrity, love & conviction.

        Though many acts are unseen, often they soar above
        the crude & tangible, its ripples as powerful in motion
        as heart’s best words spread its source code of love
        Sowing strength Invisible, Infinite & magical.

        Truth is stranger than fiction. First, lo, read we must.
        Fiction’s safety key to stories evermore strange & true
        Mind’s language opens doorways, only one is just.

        May we all choose wisely,
        or forever play nicely…

        • Cool!

          Not sure if those last two lines are supposed to haunt the reader with their impossible nature, but in my case they do. Some lovely thoughts in there. If you wrote all that then good for you.

  12. WOW… The same ppl that condemn comic fans for hating the movie industry bc of their idiotic interpretation of their source material… Alan Moore goes and proclaims boycott for the same reasons aside from death that WE comic fanboys (not u Hollywood ego strokers) and everyone agrees with him! Huh. Maybe he should complain publicly about the mistreatment of the Mandarin and lets watch the feet inserted into mouths!

  13. Alan Moore, while a talented writer in his time, is a miserable piece of sh*t who feels any adaptation is an awful idea.

    Moore just needs to let this s*** go, he’s too outspoken and it makes him look like an idiot.

  14. Watchmen sucked, brett ratner sucks, even writers suck, why isnt hercules family mad that people are writing stories about him and not paying his estate, the artist is the only one who is being wronged. And maybe the audience. Ill bootleg this and pay to go see Guardians

    • … wut?

      • I bet Zeus is furious people are writing stories about his son

  15. Yeah I don’t like the idea of ignoring an entire filmography due to one film.

    • That is the second time someone has mentioned Ratner’s filmography as a whole. Has a anybody really looked at it. The guy has directed a bunch of music videos and made for TV stuff. Red Dragon was alright as was Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2. X-Men sucked, Rush Hour 3 sucked (IMHO), and the last feature he made was Tower Heist three years ago, which I haven’t seen but seems to have mixed reviews. Let’s not pretend the guy is one of the greatest directors in the history of film shall we.

    • Not due to one film, rather to said entire filmography. Ratner is, has always been and will always be a hack. Add to that a lead who almost reaches Dolph Lundgren’s level of bad playing and you get a recipe for disaster. I’ll pass.

  16. Can I still watch it because I’m a Hercules and Dwayne Johnson fan and think that he’s the best guy to get for the role? Please? Please???

    • If you really enjoy inflicting mediocrity upon yourself, be my guest.

  17. Didn’t he say something along the same thing when V for Vendetta came out? I watched that film, loved it and then lost all credability with him

  18. The problem with Moore is he disses pretty much everything anyone does with his work whether they do a good job or not.

    Frank miller and Harlan Ellison are pretty much the same way. They are more interested in maintaining their reputations as curmudgeonly badasses than giving an objective opinion of an addaption. So you can’t really place any credence to their opinions.
    I would say though that with the people involved in this adaption you don’t really need Moore to tell you it’s going to be bad.

  19. Sorry about the spelling of adaptation. They really need an edit button on this site. Along with a delete button. We’re good but not infallible Screenrant.

    • That’s why it might be useful to proofread your posts BEFORE hitting the “Submit Comment” button rather than when it’s too late…

  20. If Alan Moore had his way Watchmen or any of his other work would have never been adapted as film. Why can’t people just respect that decision? In his mind, he wants his work to be preserved the way he envisioned it. It’s really unfortunate when studios and corporations just simply can’t respect another human beings wishes just so they can make a couple million in merchandising and franchising.

    • Bill Watterson is thus one of the most successful comic creators ever.

      If ever there is a film based on Calvin & Hobbes — and you know it would just be another Marmaduke or Garfield with Seth Rogen or someone hip at the moment as Hobbes — I think we will all shed a tear and declare the end is nigh before we move along with ourselves.

      • Good news on that front. Waterson, who went to my college, said not long ago that he “doesn’t see the upside” in letting his creation be bought out from under him and turned into a film. Score one for artistic integrity!

      • Lol, agreed.

    • “Why can’t people just respect that decision? In his mind, he wants his work to be preserved the way he envisioned it.”

      I agree with you on that call. The funny thing though is when George Lucas uses that same rationale all of the Star Wars nation attacks him.

      • Are you really trying to compare the creative genius who is Alan Moore to a guy whose only accomplishment was to cobble up a universe from a variety of sources?! What made Star Wars great never was George Lucas.

  21. Having his work presented in other media increases interest in his original work. Plus seeing his work come alive in a live action media is fun even in the bad movies.

  22. I hadn’t heard that Moore hated the Watchmen movie, but that would seriously hurt my respect for his opinions. That film was a bit clunky with some of the over the top, casual brutal violence, but it also delivered the gist of the comic with remarkable quality and a loving attention to detail. In fact, it surpassed the role of being a knockoff, in my mind, and became in many ways the definitive version of the story. If you haven’t read the comic, then this might seem like a spoiler, but the ending had a stupid twist that the movie avoided quite elegantly. Whereas Moore’s goofy conclusion told us that all these top Hollywood effects people had been gathered secretly on an island to create a big, fake, “dead” alien, the movie avoided that tangent. Rather than motivate peace on earth with the hoax of a failed alien invasion, they simply changed it to suggest that the evidence implied Dr. Manhattan had effectively nuked the cities in disgust. It worked so much better, and was such an organic solution that you’d think Moore would be impressed. Also, having Nightowl and his girlfriend serve coffee to the people they saved aboard the Owl ship (in the comic) was kooky as hell, so just barely referencing that idea for humor was plenty. Anyway, great book, great film, (especially the directors cut).

    • Yeah, he had some harsh criticisms when it came to Watchmen and V. Yes, Watchmen did have some issues but overall it was a great movie. V was just outstanding so I never got the whole lashing out of these films. Since then I lost all interest in his opinion when it comes to what is good in the big screen.

  23. It’s directed by Brett Ratner. He doesn’t need to boycott it.

    • ‘Nuff said.

  24. I have been reading comic books for over 40 years and I can honestly say I never heard of Steve Moore even though I owned and read the first 3 parts of this comic series. How in blue hell somebody can claim -with a straight face- that the studio is “using” his name WHEN HE WAS PRETTY MUCH A NOBODY is beyond me. Would the person who made this assinine claim stand in front of a grown adult and try to pull that one off with a straight face???? This is Steve Moore we are talking about, not Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman, or even Brian Michael Bendis.
    Yes the cheese ass publishers ripped Mr. Moore off and screwed him out of $15K. Steve Moore ADMITTED Radical changed his contract and took the clause out saying he would be paid $15 K if the title was adapted to film. Most of the promo material for the comic noted that Radical had plans for their properties to be adapted into movies.
    Talented albeit not-that-well-known author that he was, great researcher that he was, guess Mr. Moore missed that day at author school where they spoke about what crappy rip off artists publishers are and how you should NEVER sign a legal binding contract without having your own LAWYER look it over?
    Knowing lawyers I am pretty sure for about $50 an hour a good one would have told him, “Uh, steve, they took out the clause on page 6 saying you would be paid $15K for any film adaption.” It might have cost him $200 but he would have gotten his $15K.
    I saw the movie, it entertained me and I will probably see it again. Is it as good as Braveheart? Not really. But its as good as the Harry Potter films and better than the Percey Jackson films and Ian McShane’s performance is worth the price of admission.
    IN the end that is how I judge a film. Did it justify the time and expense of going and seeing it. If I judged films by how faithful they were to the source material or whether or not a fairly unknown or household name author got screwed somewhere along the way, I would never see a movie again. But then again I have a brain in my head. Not crap. And for all Alan Moore’s genius, and yes he is a genius, if he does not quit the drugs he is going to wind up like another genius writer from England, Aliester Crowley who was almost entirely destitute when he died despite having great wealth at one point in his life also.

  25. Hercules is a decent adaptation of the comic book ,
    Cinema is another form of art , and whether or not the original “writer” or artist like the adaptation
    it isn’t any of their business in the end , since it is another form of artistic impression.
    the same can be said of Kubrick”s “the shining” in comparison to stephen king’s version.
    The comic Hercules and the Thracian wars is based on a Myth, if anyone has a right to be offended or overjoyed over the efforts of Bret Ratner and co it will be the Greek people and those who love mythology.
    Since it is for them this is being done anyway.
    So who give a flying fig what mr. moore and any other dour dunsky has to say about it.
    I am over joyed that finally a worthy depiction of the epic hero of Greek myth is being made for the big screen. we have had to suffer through mediocre to horrible adaptations since the 1950’s its about time.
    and thankfully it seems to be doing quiet well.