‘Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2′ Spoilers Discussion

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  1. well like most good films i found myself thinking more about it in the following 48 hours since i saw it….one thing that keeps crossing my mind is Snape, and how he went about things. i read the books and know his back story and his relationship with dumbledore and lily but i wondered when he would have ever told harry the truth had voldemort not killed him and harry not conveniently been there. Dumbledore told him about harry essentially being a horcrux and that he should only tell harry that when voldie is most vulnerable…..when voldemort killed snape how many horcruxes were left at that point? 2? 3, if you count voldemort himself? It seems like snape would have switched sides once he realized that harry and his team had gotten that far without his help (i reread what i wrote and remembered snape’s patronis leading them to the sword of griffendore but i think my point still stands)….it seems like the trio plus snape could have ended volemorte without snape dying. At the very least he could have gotten in harry’s ear and told him the truth without risking everything by not telling him, which he more or less did and was lucky that harry was there to witness his last seconds and thus, catch his tears. Part of me thought that if he worked both sides that voldemort would have known he was lying but he was already keeping things from V so we know he was a good liar. the other things have been mentioned already so i wont be redundant and talk about teddy, the weasley twin or ron and harry showing so little when they parted ways….i still thought it was a great film and worthy of seeing again. peace

  2. Did anyone realize they forgot to kill off Wormtail? I thought they would take care of that in Part 2 since they didn’t in Part 1, but it looks like Yates and co. completely forgot about him.

    • He not dead? There is like no reason for him to still be living now.

  3. Regardless of whether you liked, loved, hated it or fell somewhere between this Movie and the saga it ends is unprecedented in cinema. I was thinking about it today and I ca not think of any franchise/series/call it what you will that even comes close to comparison of the HP franchise.

    LOTR (Lord Of The Rings) would probably be the closest in comparing but it was less then half the number of films as HP. I guess The Chronicles Of Narnia might have had a chance if the series had not gone downhill after the first.

    The Bond series (James Bond) does have more entries by a factor of 3 (If my math is right) and yet I don’t believe the sum of all the Bond movies can even come close to the dollars made by the HP franchise even if you adjust for inflation.

    The bottom line is that there was nothing like it before Harry Potter came and now that its over I don’t believe there will be anything like it again for a long time. There will be attempts and studios will try very hard in hopes of reviving the HP money maker but I just don;t see another series as successful and as extensive as the HP franchise and I for one am happy It came about during my younger years so I would have the means and the time and the youth to enjoy it.

    Goodbye Harry and friends and thanks for a decade of wondrous magical fun on the big screen!

  4. BlueCollarCritic – I agree with just about everything you posted with one exception. You left out one franchise, which has been around a lot longer than HP and equally if not more successful – Star Wars. The HP stories and movies were excellent not to mention the benefit of having the same actors for all the movies. George Lucas was successful in creating another world without the use of CG.

  5. OK, one adjustment to my previous post. Lucas did use CG in the last three movies (or the first three if you go by chapter number). I was really focusing on Episodes IV, V & VI. Either way, still a very successful franchise, which is still going very strong today considering the original three came out in the 70′s & 80′s,

  6. They didn’t explain why HP dad was so mean to Snape when they were young?

    • Because Harry’s dad really was a bit of a jerk. A good guy overall, I mean he wasn’t a candidate for Slytherin or anything, just big-headed and a jokester. It’s one of the reasons why Snape and Lily fell out with one another. Snape couldn’t understand why she fell for someone who was an a$$.

      • Snape knew quite well why Lily fell out with him-his Slytherin friends were using dark magic on students,Snape called her a mugblood and even though he apologized profusely he did not deny he wanted to be a death-eater.She got tired of making excuses for him.

        • To me, Snae isnt as bad as some people put him out to be. James was a total a$$ to Snape, not only him but james friends as well (Lupin and Sirius) but they changed when they got older. Snape loved Lily from the start and he saw that Lily was getting closer to james after he had called her a Mudblood accidently. So he started to get upset and loely so he wanted to be a death eater. Overall, I fell bad for the character he lived a tragic life indeed :(

  7. As a film it is brilliant undoubtedly as an interpretation of the book it leaves a lot to be desired…I thought, naively since it was the last ever film that the writers would pay more respect to the books but no…
    The two main things throughout both the book and the film are horcruxes and hallows…so I figured they would have the right people destroying each of the horcruxes as it is important…but no the fact that Goyle unintentionally destroys Ravenclaw’s diadem before his death seems to go unnoticed and Harry naturally is the one to destroy despite the fact that the cursed fire that Goyle produces destroys everything and is unstoppable apparently it cannot destroy a horcrux like in the book and emerges from the fire unharmed…
    Another issue I have the fact that they invent a scene with Helena Ravenclaw to explain how Harry knows where to go looking for her mother’s lost diadem in the first place, it is a cute addition I suppose but considering Harry’s experience with the room of lost objects in the films as well as the books you would assume he would have the initiative to realise that is where it would be in the films too but no!
    Another thing which may seem insignificant to those who do not read the books is that Kreacher (the Black’s house-elf) is supposed to be there at the battle of Hogwarts leading the house-elves into battle and demanding they fight in honour of Regulus Black referring to his old master as the defender of house-elves, this also adds on nicely from the clear change in Kreacher’s attitude towards Harry…
    A part of the book with great importance is Harry, after the battle going to the headmaster’s office to discuss with Dumbledore what he shall do with each of the hallows (leave stone where he dropped it in the forest, keep cloak as it has been passed down to him, not use elder wand but only to repair his original wand that Hermione broke by accident)…it would have been a great scene to see all the portraits applauding Harry as nobody even seems to acknowledge that he killed Voldemort other than a smile from Cho and a hug from Hagrid…
    One more thing it would have been nice to have shown Fleur & Bill’s daughter Victoire with Teddy Lupin (Tonks & Lupin’s son) as the epilogue states that they were caught kissing by some of her younger cousins and it would be lovely to show how much included he was in the lives of the Weasleys and Potters despite only having one blood relative left (his grandmother) who we know had contact with him as well as of course his Godfather Harry himself!
    Okay rant over, I do love the film I just cannot really see it is as an accurate interpretation because of their loose use of the original plot but continue to enjoy the films as a separate entity as I always have done…

    • Couldn’t agree more… I just read the end of the book the other day and some of the things just shouldn’t have been left out. ESPECIALLY the part at the end in Dumbledore’s office. I loved in the book how Harry repaired his old wand, what happens in the movie? Does he keep Draco’s wand? He shouldn’t have… I did LOVE the movie but it was just little things like this that link back to the beginning that would’ve made it less of an empty feeling at the end of the film…. :/ Oh well… I’ve just made myself so sad ahahahah

    • what galls me is that JK Rowling approved all the changes.With LOTR and upcoming “Hobbit” at least you can say JRR Tolkien would have never ok’d the alterations.I guess they drove a truck full of money to her front door.

    • I was pretty much spitting fire at the end of Half Blood Prince because I was so angry about the changes they made from the book. But I have to say, I’m ok with the changes in the final Deathly Hallows. I can understand why they made the changes they did. I’ve realized that what got me so fired up about HBP is they changed the essence of Harry’s character during Dumbledore’s death scene, and don’t get me started on the burning of the Burrow. Deathly Hallows didn’t have any of that. The film still correctly portrayed the overall essence of the book and its characters. Did they change the diadem scene in the room of requirement? Sure. But to stay faithful to the book, someone would’ve had to explain to the non-book readers that it wasn’t an ordinary fire, but fiend fyre that can destroy horcruxes. That means stopping the action to explain and I think it would’ve raised more questions than answers. And I certainly didn’t expect them to go into too much detail with the diadem. To stay faithful to that would mean explaining Helena Ravenclaw’s relationship with her mother, Voldemort in Albania, Harry working out that Voldemort thought he was the only one who knew about the room of requirement, etc, etc. Does any of that matter to the story overall? Not when you have a two hour time limit, no. The invented scene with the ghost summed it up nicely. It wouldn’ve been nice to see the house elves fighting, but since the films only briefly introduced us to Kreacher and Dobby, and Dobby is dead, then that seems a lot of expense on special effects for the one house elf the moviegoers would recognize. Most people would wonder where all the other elves came from since no other film thought it necessary to mention that they worked in the kitchens at Hogwarts.
      I agree it would’ve been nice to see Teddy and Victoire kissing. I thought I saw Teddy on the train, but couldn’t see a girl who I would consider to be Victoire. I also would’ve liked to see Ron joking with his kid, telling him if he didn’t get into Gryffindor, not to bother coming home. Especially in contrast to Harry’s heartfelt discussion with his son about Slytherin house. I thought it would’ve been sweet to see that he’s still the same Ron after all those years. Those two scenes would’ve only added an extra minute or two to the film, so they could’ve totally put them in.

    • Yeah I loved the movie but I’m very disappointed that they didn’t explain certain things further. I mean seriously, this movie was only about 2 hours long. If they had added an extra 15 minutes of stuff about Grindelwald and more detail about everything that got no explanation at all, it would have put this film in better standing in my eyes.

      • I agree! I had to explain to my husband all the stuff that they changed from the book and all the stuff that was missing. He hasn’t read any of the books and even HE was disappointed by the ending. He was lost about a lot of stuff because the movies don’t explain a lot. And what’s with them leaving out all the flash backs that Harry had with Dumbledore about the horcruxes? Like the flashback where V get’s the huffle puff cup from that fat lady? And V getting the ring? Argh! I’m no director, producer or top selling novel writer, but I would not have left out a lot of the details they left out. The books, in my eyes, will continue to be my favorites. I’m hoping the directors cut might have some better alternate endings…..

    • I did love the movie, it was very well done. I wish they had put in more about the hallows, and especially what no one seems to have mentioned – Dumbledore’s backstory. But all the things they left out, I really can’t blame them for, they would have had to do a 3-part movie to put in everything most people who have read the books would feel they needed to really make it follow the plot. I do wish they had included the bit with Harry’s wand, if not the whole scene in Dumbledore’s office. As they had left out most of Dumbledore’s backstory I’m not actually sure whether those who hadn’t read the books would have understood too much about that scene if they had put it in. I can understand them not having time for Kreacher, though, he wasn’t really a major point in the books and they couldn’t find screen time in the movies. Considering how little time they had or everything that happened, 2-part film notwithstanding, I think they did an excellent job.

    • Ok. I didnt read the books. The 1st movie came out when I was 23. I had the unfortunate luck of expecting a nice “fantasy” movie and got stuck waiting ten yrs for a real wizard film to come out. Then…hope. DH1 came out and they were finally doing cool “wizard” things and actually using cool special effects instead of showing us how awsome nature shots look in northern europe. Harry was gettin some play finally like a normal teen and so was Ron, and for the first time they actually gave you some hope that the “unbeatable” might be beatable with the help of a super magic triad known as the Deathly Hallows, or wait..was it breaking unbreakable horcruxs? no it was a magic sword….um no…a basilisk tooth?
      There in lies one of my problems with this movie. Over all the series wasnt bad but the screen play writers seemed content to just do what hollywood does when a great concept in a novel is hard to put on film…mess it up.
      Lets start simple. You defeat Hitler in a one on one showdown that all of your pears and platoon can see and no one cheers? I doubt anyone in that moment had the “Solemn responsiblities o war” face on. No thats for the treaties after the huge celebration for destroying the axis of evil. Not one hooray? Not one “Oh Harry I knew you could do it!!” Nothing. Silience…more annoying foliage shots and a “sober” look at the damages of war. Ya thats awsome. Epilogue???? Really? How about a “witch hunt” for the rest of the death dealers or whatever they’re called? Wars sobering? Justice is sweeter.
      Next. I might be slow, or maybe it was in the orginal novels, but why have a whole bit to do about “THE DEATHLY HALLOWS OOOOOOOO” If they dont actually work together to do anything huge. Seeing HP’s extended ghost family…really??? We needed a whole animated shadow cartoon for that? To use the cloak of invicibility once???? Once???? All the times they were in it deep and they only used it once???? And my personal favorite the elder wand. It was screaming HP from the moment the DH story played out in cartoon form and he gets it to what?? Not really even tap Old Baldy and he disintergrates??? The Emporer died better in star wars….didnt even have good speacial effects for that.
      I think most of those who “loved this movie” simply like that the director almost got it right and that Harry and his boy got the girls. I wont even go into how bad the acting has been for ten yrs…it stopped being cute when they became teenagers. Doubt I will ever see Harry or Ron in another movie…sadly its Scott Hamilville for them.
      This was a waste of $100 plus dollars as far as I’m concerned. I waited and waited….and waited more in this one movie and left feeling cheated. Hell they could have left out a few books mushed things together, got new actors age appropriate and save me 70 bucks and yrs of thinking “The ends just might justify the means”.
      Epic Fail

    • Yeah I definitely agree with all your points, it really is all the small little changes that made me feel unsatisfied with it. Especially with the house-elves. I mean, I understand they couldn’t really incorporate them seamlessly into the film seeing as how they didn’t put them much into all the other films when they should have been (e.g Dobby in Goblet of Fire giving Harry the gillyweed; Winky in Order of the Phoenix), but I still wanted to see more of Kreacher b/c he was given to Harry from his godfather! That should mean something. And the deaths, yes. They should have showed them happening during the battle, especially Fred’s b/c he was such an important character to me anyways.. Other things that also got to me was Harry’s reluctance to mention the horcruxes to anyone b/c Dumbledore told him to keep it between him, Ron, and Hermione in the books; but in the movie he finds it so easy to tell Aberforth exactly what he’s hunting down! And the fact that he rarely uses his invisibility cloak in Part 1 or 2 as well. He’s supposed to go to the forest to face his death by himself, without saying goodbye to anyone b/c he knows they’ll just try and stop him from going, but instead he walks right through the castle and says goodbye to his two best friends without having to put up much of a fight. And Neville! He’s supposed to know that he has to kill Nagini and does it in front of everybody, including Voldemort, not randomly behead it. And the ending especially.. the battle, and after Voldemort’s death. I pictured the last battle inside the Great Hall with everyone surrounding them in a circle and where they can all witness Harry’s triumph.. but no. No one even really acknowledges Harry’s victory with cheers or anything. And I wanted the headmaster’s office in the end too! It would have been great to see how proud Dumbledore would have been. I also wanted him to fix his old wand with the Elder’s Wand before hiding it safely away, not snapping it in half and chucking it. Bah. There was so many things they left out of the book I couldnt find myself enjoying as much as I’d wanted to :/

      • Oh my goodness just watched the movie again and thought spot on what you are saying. You are so right!

      • Oh my goodness just watched the movie again and thought spot on what you are saying. You are right!

    • I have just come from seeing the movie in 3D and was BITTERLY disappointed with the ending. The battle between Voldemort and Harry was not anywhere in the ballpark of being great. It was such a let down that I cannot believe it. What happened to ‘leaving off of any great battles in the last couple of movies because they are saving it for the last one… the battle to end all battles’???
      I have no idea what possessed the movie makers to detour from the book. I listened to the audiobook (read by Stephen Fry) instead of reading it and he was a most excellent narrator. He brought the whole battle to life. Why would the moviemakers offer such a FLAT battle? There was barely conversation between the two (unlike the book) and it did not take place in front of everyone (unlike the book).
      And no final meeting in Dumbledor’s old office, talking to him in the portrait with all the other portraits applauding?
      WHAT A LOUSY FLAT ENDING to such an extraordinarily fantastic series of books.
      The movie makers should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

      • I Soooooooo agree with you! You know what? I was more upset and sad about the way they had the movie end, that I didn’t have time to be sad about it being the LAST ONE! What a let down. Bum-mer.

      • I totally agree. I was so upset that they took everything that I considered important (Dumbledore’s backstory, the bringing together of the deathly hallows and the ending in front of everyone, plus a ton more) from the book. The thing that made me the most angry was the fact that if they had stayed true to the book, it would not have added time or money and would have been WAY more exciting.

    • people…remember that this is a FILM…it is a totally different medium from a book. They would have to mush things together because if you put ALL those details in there, it would appear stretched-out and IMMENSELY boring. They have done a pretty good job putting the important things in there…although I do think that the book Great Hall fight scene was more epic than the battle in the courtyard in the movie…HOWEVER, I must give the cast and crew a big thumb-up because they really did what they could to make the movie a great one to watch.

  8. I came away from the movie with mixed feelings. I know as a movie adaptation of a book there will always be concessions made, but there were too many important omissions and deviations. I spent so much time agonizing over what the movie did wrong it made it hard to enjoy what I thought went right. I’m not saying it needs to be line for line by the book to work – I liked the Gringotts break in and dragon escape, despite never mentioning it was Hufflepuff’s cup and that the Geminio curse did not burn them. I really thought Snape was right on as well, again, not just like the book, but effective and emotional – good job Rickman! I also really liked how the suits of armor were portrayed – so tough, strong, fierce! From the book I imagined them more bumbling and clanking, so I enjoyed this representation. But on to the bad…

    I so badly missed Harry in the Ravenclaw tower right at the beginning of the battle for Hogwarts. When Harry stands up to the Carrows after Alecto spat in the face of McGonagall, using Cruccio and really meaning it, definitely “gallant.” I wish Neville’s grandmother made an appearance – I know it isn’t necessary for the plot but I loved her character and her overwhelming pride for her grandson, going out to fight with him. Also, I loved the idea of the diadem on the head of the goblin, not tucked in a box. And Harry can hear horcruxes now? Also, when he heads out to the forest he REALLY should have been hidden under the cloak, no goodbyes to Hermione and Ron – only to Neville, tasking him with killing the snake. And then, Chapter 34 of Deathly Hallows, Forest Again, with the resurrection stone, is my all time favorite. This scene in the movie was nearly perfect, emotional for sure. I wanted Harry to say it right like the book “I’m about to die.” Instead he says “I’m ready to die,” why change it? I also wish it showed Lily/James/Lupin/Sirius walking with Harry through the woods until the last minute. He drops the stone too soon, in the book he needs them with him to keep his feet moving towards death!

    When Harry has final duel with Voldemort, like others have mentioned, it’s just not good. Too many liberties (the mid-air, zooming around fight), wrong location, and why is it unspoken spell-casting – no more saying avada kedavra vs expelliarmus out loud? It’s too bad that so little homage is paid to Fred, Tonks, and Lupin’s deaths. True the book doesn’t say much about the deaths either, but obviously the movies have never let staying true to the books stop them before…that would have been an addition no one would have minded!

    BUT MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT. After the fight, Harry, Ron, Hermione seek out some quiet in Dumbledore’s office and when they walk in, all the portraits of the past headmasters are applauding, cheering, celebrating – and the large portrait of Dumbledore is quietly crying, so proud of them. THAT’S WHERE IT SHOULD END BEFORE THE EPILOGUE. Not on a bridge with Harry snapping the Elder wand in half, not even repairing his old wand. That in my opinion was inexcusable, it is so emotional, having all the best and greatest wizards honoring the trio – namely Harry – for what has been done. And it gives them a final chance to speak with Dumbledore. It should end in the office, as a beautiful scene that would have been amazing on screen – I can picture it exactly in my head, and I guess that’s where it will stay.

    • I totally agree with everyone you had to say! I also would have loved to have seen Neville’s grandmother I think it really important to see Neville’s transformation from underdog to leader of the DA, fearless, passionate fighter & essentially a partial destroyer of Voldemort!
      You are so right about the scene where James, Lily, Sirius & Lupin it was supposed to be that they walked with him not only as support but also as patronuses as there are supposed to be dementors on the walk there…
      I just hate how they think it is acceptable to mess up so much! I do not see the point of Voldemort being able to feel the horcruxes being destroyed I do not think it was really necessary I mean it is more effective that he does not realise & yeah Harry being able to hear them was just a little too easy…

      • Yeah a big part of the book is that it was like a mystery they had to solve by finding the clues to the whereabouts of the Horcruxes. With Harry just being able to “feel” them, it really took out a huge chunk of the mystery solving aspect that I enjoyed so much. Finding the answers themselves and then Voldemort’s reasons for choosing the items he did was a big part of my enjoyment of the book and had actual depth.

        • There wasn’t much more they could do than to let Harry ‘feel’ the horcruxes since they screwed up HBP. That’s where Harry and Dumbledore discussed the items that were possible horcruxes. I was wondering how they were going to fix the loose ends and found it rather cheesy in the end.

    • Hear Hear. I also can picture it in my head and was so upset that it was so different.

    • I COMPLETELY agree with you about everything! Mostly, however I am just as angry that they have him say “I’m ready to die”. It loses all of the power and sadness the book offered. I actually got goosebumps when Harry whispers that he is about to die.

  9. Oh and no explanation of what happened with Albus and his sister??? That was huge.

    • Aberforth DID, however, indicate that something bad happened between the two. That, given what details had been released already in the series (or NOT released), was more than enough to show Harry that Albus was not the perfect, always upright, man Harry had previously believed him to be.

      • Yeah but it would have taken 5 minutes to explain what happened…just lazy if you ask me.

        • Well, I thought it was a wonderful way to present the scene, so I guess we’ll have to simply agree to disagree. I didn’t think it was lazy; I thought it was powerful.

          • Yes but you already knew the actual story. I think if you didn’t know what happened you might have been left a little perplexed and disappointed that it wasn’t explained.

            • In that scene, it would NOT have been disappointing STORYWISE. In terms of my natural curiousity about the backstory in a film or book, YES, I would indeed have wanted to know more.

              In terms of the progression of the story, however, the tidbit Aberforth provided gave Harry what we, as the audience, needed to understand that Harry now had another piece of his life’s puzzle (his “father-figure” was imperfect, just like his father). Harry, being the “act-first, explain-later” kind of guy that we’ve seen for 7 books and seven previous films remains well within the truth of his character: He hears Aberforth but chooses to move forward.

              You’ll, of course, recall that Harry and Ginny IN THE NOVEL still name their son Albus Severus, so Harry obviously did not lose respect for his mentor in EITHER format.

              I think the point of that scene in both the book and the film was fulfilled quite well in both formats, respectively.

    • Not only was there no explanation, but in the movie Harry explicitly says he doesn’t care what mess might between them, he simply isn’t interested. At that point, I think it’s safe to say that, for “movie” Harry at least, Dumbledore never falls off his pedestal.

  10. So does this mean Dumbledore is a bad guy and snape is actually good? Why didn’t he treat Harry nicer before if he was so worry? Something Harry said about his mom and snape having the same patronum…what does this mean?

    • Read the books and you’ll get it. Just goes to show the movie didn’t quite get everything explained.

    • Snape was neither a goody or a baddie according to JK Rowling as she stated clearly in an interview that if Harry had not been Lily’s son he would never have helped him…it was only Voldemort killing Lily that made Snape hate him not all the other evil things he did!
      As for Dumbledore he isn’t a bad guy but he knows realistically that Harry will have to die in order for the rest of the world to live in a place without Voldemort…

  11. Yes there were changes and some things left out. I was somewhat disappointed and I’m glad I read the books. If I had not, I’d
    definitely would have wondered what just happened? Some things
    could have been explained but left for some to be curious and might
    have read the stories to fill them in. Maybe that’s why they did
    that. I think HP 1 was probably the only one that was closest to
    the book. But I hope they someday make a tv series with actors of
    course and go by the book and add a bit to make it funner to watch.

    • I meant new actors to do the tv series.

  12. I cannot understand why some of you, and other “highly regarded” movie critics defend the choices made in this last installment of this epic saga. To say that this was a successful conclusion to the series, and as one critic said, “kept with the novel so well,” is complete garbage.

    While the final movie started out strong (I had no real problem with the Gringotts scene), it quickly went downhill from there. The scene from the movie where Harry presents himself to Snape for the first time, and he and Pofessor McGonagal chase Snape out of the school held two distinct feelings for me as I watched the movie. The first, I was amazed at how fast the movie had arrived at “The Battle of Hogwarts.” The second was hope that by arriving at this point so quickly, the movie would be able to do the books ending justice, and we would all see the finale that we so loved from the book. Untrue. Artistic licence has a place, but it was used and abused far too often in the closing of Part 2.

    Leaving out petty disambiguities such as the Ravenclaw horcrux scenes, and some aspects of the battle that were unnecessarily different from the books, we can get to real tragedy of the movie.

    From the moment that Harry comes out of the pensieve

  13. So… From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book The Deathly Hallows was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could J.K. agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Negini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother Graup again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard.

    The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great.

    All in all, I was very disappointed with Deathly Hallows Part 2.

  14. So… From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book The Deathly Hallows was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could J.K. agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Negini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard.

    The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great. All in all, I was very disappointed with Deathly Hallows Part 2.

  15. So… From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could J.K. agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Negini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard.

    The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great. All in all, I was very disappointed with Part 2.

  16. From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could J.K. agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Negini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard.

    The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great. All in all, I was very disappointed with Part 2.

  17. From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could jk agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Negini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard.

    The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great. All in all, I was very disappointed with Part 2.

  18. From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could jk agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Nigini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard.

    The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great. All in all, I was very disappointed with Part 2.

  19. From the moment Harry came out of the pensieve to the end of the movie, i could not stop shaking my head. I don’t want to speak for everyone, but I thought the end of the book was nearly perfect. The movie changed it entirely. How could jk agree to these changes? Did she really have as much to do with the process as we are lead to believe? Can I get Nigini in a magical sphere? Can I see Hagrids brother again? What about the Centaurs? House elves? Harry specifically tells Neville to “Kill the snake” so that there are still 3 people who know what needs to be done after Harry dies. Instead, the movie has us believe that on his way to the Dark Forest, Harry tells Ron and Hermione for the first time to kill the snake? Like they would not have known already? The resurrection stone scene was completely wrong. The best part of the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort in the book was that Harry killed Voldemort in front of everyone in the great hall, not maybe killed him, maybe he died because Nigini lost her head, alone in the courtyard. The last thing I will say before my phone dies is that there is absolutely no reason to leave out the Headmasters office scene at the very end. It was a very powerful moment in the book that would have added everything, and taken away nothing from the movie. As many of you have said, seeing Dumbledore one last time, watching Harry receive admiration from so many famous and powerful wizards, and just seeing the Harry, Ron, and Hermione get their just due would have been great. All in all, I was very disappointed with Part 2.

    • Steve…

      You DO understand that sending the same post SO many times makes you look ridiculously desperate, right?

      In any case, so many of us enjoyed the film because the essence of the story AND of the characters stayed true to Rowling’s book. Opinions on BOTH sides are easy to support.

      • im assuming steve’s phone lagged or froze and instead of waiting for it to process his command, he pressed submit over and over….I didnt get desperate out of that, but probably impatient/dumb (with all do respect :)

        • All these things you mentioned Steve is why I say they should do
          a tv series with new actors to show everything that was written
          and add more to keep it going. They can’t put everything in the
          movie but they can stay true to the movie which most of it was
          based on the book with a few additives.

  20. I saw it today did you see Ron Weasley’s face and tears to see his brother Fred dead on the floor and the Weasley family tears and face also it was sad about it including Harry’s family friend Remus Lupin died also i was shock to see that and he is right. Lupin is just like Harry’s parents never to see their son since they were babies we know that i love when Sirius and Lily and James and Lupin giving him advice they were great together as family including Snape finally Harry knows about his history with his mother i feel sorry for him he did remorse when he saw Lily died in that house Godric’s Hollow it was memorable and his face he felt pain and emotional i am happy for that he knows he has feelings for his mother. Remorseful i hope Harry’s father Sirius and Lupin notice Snape’s feelings and remorse about Lily.

  21. I have now seen the film twice and was stunned by the mostly stoic nature of Part II.

    After what I found was a wonderful and emotionally rich Part I. i.e. the death of Dobby, and the amazingly poinant scene with Harry and Hermoine dancing, and later the destruction of the locket horcrux involving Harry and Hermoine again. Wow talk about emotional climaxes…

    Part II is literally a race, and I feel like they were so intent on finishing they left so much of the humanity on the cutting room floor. The death of Fred, Lupin, & Tonks. Off screen, bloodless, and too quick to allow the audience to grieve for a moment.

    In fact the only sequence that gave emotional satisfaction is Snape memory sequence, because they gave us the time to develop the relationship and the true mourning on the death of Lily. When Snape said to Harry “You have your mother’s eyes” It was amazing.

    And what happened to V’s incredible magic we saw at the end of The order of the Phoenix. In his fight with Harry it was so plain, not to mention he had Harry at his mercy several times but then miraculously Harry gets away?

    Belatrix one of most dangerous death eaters. Killed by Molly in 30 seconds. And the pacing of the film didn’t let you say YAY!!! It needed to finish quickly so there could be more showings per day in the theatre.

    While I am at it some plot holes. When Harry comes enter Hogwarts the students are “hiding out” away from the rest of the students” Then how do they rejoin the rest of the school without anyone pulling them out.

    And how did Luna get there? She was being held by Belatrix if she went back to school would Belatrix know about it?

    Hopefully there will be an extended cut someday and the true magic will be released.

    • Luna escaped thanks to Dobby who helped her disapparate to Shell Cottage (Bill & Fleur’s place) as elf-magic works differently from wizard magic so he could get her out of the dungeon at Malfoy Manor…
      As for the fight scene with Bellatrix & Molly yes you’re right, for a kick-off Bellatrix is supposed to be fighting Ginny, Hermonie & Luna at once to indicate just how powerful a witch she is whilst Voldemort is meant to be fightig McGonogall, Kingsley & Slughorn at the same time…
      It is when a killing curse nearly hits Ginny that Harry reveals himself (all of this supposed to be in the Great Hall not just outside in the rubble)& as he runs up to try & protect Ginny, Molly knocks him out the way, refusing any students’ help to fight Bellatrix insisting “she’s mine” & Bellatrix is supposed to die the same way in which Sirius did, in a sort of laughter but I guess it’s more dramatic visually to have her decompose into dust…
      In the films they like to suggest (wrongly) that Voldemort weakens as each horcrux is destroyed perhaps that is partially why his combat does not meet the mark of OotP!

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  24. So, I’m a huge fan of HP. I started liking it a lot during my sixth grade year. I’m now 22. I own all the books and movies. I have to agree with a lot of your comments bc they did leave out important things. I also go by the saying the book is ten times better than the movie. I personally believe that HP 7 and part 2 were awesome movies. A GREAT WAY TO END SUCH AN AWESOME SERIES. However they really did need to put in the Dumbledore’s office scene at the end when they discuss what to do with the deathly hallows. Also if im not mistaken and im pretty sure im not the whole helena ravenclaw thing is in the book and plays an important part with the diadem. Bc she hide from her mother so she was the only one who knew where it was. Altho the scene was def played out. But when it comes down to it hp and the deathly hallows part 1 and 2 were great. When harry was looking into snapes memory i cried the entire time as did when dobey died. When Professor Mcgogonall made the stone warriors come out and protect the school i def got chill bumps. The saddest part ever for me was the ending credits bc i was shocked. The series has ended. A big part of my childhood is over. I just want to say thank you Jk rowling and the whole cast of the hp films. Thank you for making the hp series come alive to a child who opens up Sorcers stone and begins reading as you done for me! :)

  25. Arghhh. I was heartbroken when I saw the last movie. If only they had those crucial points from the book it wouldn’t have left me upset (not in the good way). I was expecting to cry at the end, but I was wrong. I rate it about 3/5 because I admit the special effects were pretty good, when, for instance Harry and Voldemort are fighting, the final dual expanded quite a bit. But they didn’t put enough of the books in the movie in my opinion. Yeah…. a big piece of my childhood just came to a close. Hopefully ‘Pttermore’ will be good (in any case its by J.K.Rowling so it must be). Good bye Harry, Ron, Hermione and those people that took me on a 10-year ride of a lifetime!

    • And did anyone else notice that Voldemort died because his final horcruxe got destroyed? Not because Harry killed him?

    • I completely agree and I finally saw the movie yesterday afternoon. After re-reading the book in the last month AND re-reading the last 40 or so pages, I don’t know, at least 3 times, I am so sad that they didn’t capture the final Harry and Voldemort moments more true to the book. I don’t think it would have been that difficult. But to end with practically a fist fight? It was such a powerful ending the way it was and I was really disappointed. I don’t know if it was to give Ralph Fiennes more screen time or what. I know that the book is A LOT to cover, and overall they did a very good job, but I think they blew it at King’s Cross with Dumbledore and with the final show down between Harry and Tom Riddle.

  26. hey what happened to wormtail ? he was never in this movie, the movie was ok (i was a big fan of dobbey and i was peeved off that he died) but yeah i didnt know what the makers of this film were thinking when harry and tom riddle met eachother in the woods for a final show down. one hit with a wand and he winds up in kings cross chatting to dumbledore ??? it kinda shot the whole ‘built up suspence’ down in flames, but yeah a good ending with the ’19 years later bit) (strange thou that peoples fashion never changes in 19 years lol)..3 stars for me..woiuld have been 4 if dobbey was still alive :)

    • Wormtail… NO IDEA. I wont forgive they cut his death lol.

      And Dobbys death is the best death scene in HP :(

      Haha I love this movie <3

  27. I didnt understand the part when dumbledore and snape where talking about lily and harry can someone explain?break it diwn please

  28. David Yates ruined the movies and I’ll never forgive him for cutting out Voldemort’s past, Ariana’s story/Grindlewald’s tale, Wormtail’s death. cutting out how badass Ginny was, showing no chemistry between Harry and Ginny, Teddy, Percy’s betrayal and redemption, Mad-Eye,’s Fred’s Lupin’s and Tonks’s deaths, cutting out Voldemort’s real death in the great hall in front of everyone and cutting out Ron and Hermione interracting with Draco and Scorpius, shortening The Marauder’s memory and The Prince’s tale and having Harry snapping The Elder Wand instead of healing his wand and adding in that pointless cafe scene in the beginning of Half-Blood Prince, pointless harmony scenes and turning Voldemort into a complete joke.
    He simply cannot tell a story,show emotion or build tension.Id advise people to read the books because the movies are nothing like them especially HBP and DH2.