Guillermo del Toro Talks ‘Justice League Dark’ and the Developing DC Universe

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No matter what comes of all the recent rumor-mongering about Batman vs. Superman – whether the Man of Steel sequel lays the groundwork for a Justice League movie or focuses solely on the conflict between the Man of Tomorrow and the Caped Crusader – there is one thing we can say for certain: Warner Bros. is finally putting together a DC Cinematic universe.

Those plans include a handful of new television series, in addition to the ongoing Arrow TV series and the potential Flash spinoff. Not to mention, Wonder Woman is being prepared to make her debut in the new age of superhero entertainment, be it on a TV show, her own movie or a cameo in an upcoming tentpole headlined by one of her fellow Justice Leaguers. So, the question is, where does Justice League Dark fit into WB/DC’s grand scheme?

The JLD movie is the brainchild of Guillermo del Toro (Pacific Rim), based on the comic book series (started in 2011) where characters such as Swamp Thing, John Constantine, Black Orchid, Deadman, the Frankenstein creature and Madame Xanadu – superheroes with dark magical powers and/or fantastical abilities – join forces, in order to battle mystical threats that aren’t so much up the Justice League’s alley. In fact, del Toro has been talking about the project a fair amount over the past year, following on the heels of his planned The Incredible Hulk TV series for Marvel Studios falling off the track (and into the depths of development hell).

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So far, the only developing DC project we’ve heard about that seems to present a challenge to the JLD movie is NBC’s Constantine television series from Man of Steel writer David S. Goyer; though, del Toro has already claimed it’s possible for the duo to coexist peacefully. However, during a more recent interview with (via Coming Soon), the filmmaker admitted that JLD still needs to find its place in the larger DC universe, before it will be able to continue moving forward.

Here is what he told, to be exact:

“We’re still [working on 'Justice League Dark'], writing, and hopefully it will happen but there are no developments that are new. We’re still at Warner Bros., they are making plans for the entire DC universe. All the superheroes, all the mythologies, and part of that is Justice League Dark. They’re planning on TV, movies, and all the media, so we have to fit into that plan.”

Indeed, many of the DC Universe discussions on the Screen Rant Underground Podcast over the last year have been focused on speculation about what WB’s DC plans might entail. Marvel Studios is pioneering the cohesive shared cinematic universe model, with everything from theatrical movie releases to the TV series Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. being set in the same world; and thus, often directly impacted by story developments and events that occur in other Marvel projects. Might WB/DC follow suit by concocting its own shared universe? (Short answer: Not necessarily.)

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Marvel and DC comic book properties – as well as their movie/TV interpretations – are different kinds of beasts (not better or worse, per se), so there’s an argument to be made that a property like Justice League Dark doesn’t need to be integrated into the DC Universe in the same manner as it would in more the inter-connected MCU. As such, while projects like Man of Steel and the upcoming Gotham Central TV series fit the heightened, yet emotionally-grounded template, del Toro’s JLD could stray further away from that creative approach.

Then again, there is certainly a middle-ground between the more fun serial genre fare like Thor: The Dark World – or the light-hearted fantasy comic book adaptations like del Toro’s Hellboy II: The Golden Army – and the serious modern mythology vibe of films like Man of Steel. As del Toro indicated, Justice League Dark just needs to find that sweet spot in the DC Universe, where it won’t stand too far apart from its peers; and yet, still be very much its own thing.

Be sure and let us know how you think Justice League Dark will/should fit into the DC Universe, in the comments section below.


More on Justice League Dark as we hear it.

Source: [via Coming Soon]

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  1. I’m calling it now. JLD will be WB’s GOTG. They’d be stupid not move forward on this after BvS.

  2. I hope that JLD happens and then we can get a versus movie with the JL since WB/DC appears to like to pit heroes against each other.

    • Wow, splendid idea! I’d be all for it. So what would be the apple of discord in this scenario according to you: mind control or elaborate deception put to use by a third party trying to get off scot-free?

      • Maybe a complete misunderstanding (creature attacks, JLD team rush to fight it, JL team have the same idea, both teams think they’re somehow helping this monster destroy Earth).

  3. I’m really hoping this comes to be!

    • If it does, I’d want it to include Deadman and possibly Spectre.

  4. Justice League Dark would be a great addition to the universe. Really hoping they go through with this, especially when Del Toro is behind it.

  5. del Toro – 1000 great projects, none come to fruition. This guy needs to stop screwing around and form his own studio and stop begging for green lights that are never, EVER coming.

    • None came to fruition?

      So, the year’s best movie (IMO and yes, I saw Gravity last Friday, good movie but not the best I’ve ever seen) – Pacific Rim – never happened?

      • I was severely disappointed with “Pacific Rim”. ..and I’m a huge Del toro, manga, anime and mecha fan! I was the perfect fanbase for that film, but I just couldn’t get past everything that wasn’t robot or monster.

        • Who cares. I came for big- ass robots beating up big- ass monsters. And I got it.

          • ^This guy knows what’s up.

  6. I would very much love for this to come to fruition. One hero I would love to see on the team (though I doubt it) is Ragman…c’est la vie.

  7. Not really familiar with Justice league Dark Except Swamp thing and Constantine a little I thought Zatanna and Dr Fate were in Justice league Dark also. Either way I Would pay to see that movie just out of curiosity.

    • Zatanna and Doctor Fate left the team.

      If Zatanna’s in it, who else would want Serinda Swan to reprise her old Smallville role?

      • I can dig it.

    • Dr.Fate is on earth 2. He was part of the jsa.

  8. Would they call it “Justice League Dark” even when there is no Justice League yet?

    • I’d hope for a more original name, it’s just that they had to be called JLD in the comics to help sales because apparently, not many mainstream DC fans had heard of the Hellblazer comic book and disappointing sales of Frankenstein, Agent Of S.H.A.D.E. saw that book cancelled in early 2012 because of the lack of interest, which is why he joined JLD to keep going in the new universe.

    • Del Toro had another name for it. ‘Heaven Sent’ or something like that. I’m not entirely sure if that’s right name though.

      • Yeah, then he changed it to Justice League Dark by saying that no one will know what the movie’s supposed to be about, leading some to believe Heaven Sent may be a subtitle if the movie ever happened.

        • How about “The League of Shadows” ……oh, wait. (^-^)

      • and ‘Dark Universe’

  9. Seriously, take a step back from all this and just think, what are the odds of this actually happening? I love del Toro, I’m a big fan of his movies. Hellboy 1&2, Blade 2, Pacific Rim but I think this will end up like that Green Arrow MAX movie that never came to be. I just can’t see WB putting money behind an obscure property like this when they’re trying (hopefully) to get characters like Flash and Wonder Woman out there.

    • Production supposedly starts after Crimson Peak. If WB is indeed going ahead with this, BvS becoming a loose JL prequel starts to make more sense to me. At least by the time Heaven Sent/Dark Universe is realeased the Justice League could technically exist.

    • Sounds remarkably similar to Marvel with Black Panther & Dr. Strange getting put off, while GotG is full steam ahead.

  10. Niceer

  11. he is talented and we are from the same country and stuff, but not all of his work have been good. not for me.

    And when he is stuck in the middle of a project, it will most likely never happen.. or at least not by his direction.

  12. Since Del Toro’s remake of The Incredible Hulk tv show has been put on hold, they should get him to direct The Incredible Hulk 2 instead.

    • Del Toro doesn’t seem like he would fit well with Marvel though. The direction that WB/DC is going (gritty, down to earth) seems to suit his style of production better. Not saying he wouldn’t do a good job with it (actually think he would do the Hulk justice if anythng)but he doesn’t seem to be what Marvel is looking for IMHO.

  13. Please make At the Mountains of Madness first. I know Ridley scott ripped off the plot for Prometheus but ATMOM will be just awesome.

  14. Making this movie before a proper Justice League film is released doesn’t really make sense.

    Besides the comic is losing sales and stays afloat with endless crossovers and an even lower cancellation threshold set by Bob Harras who wants his ideas to stay float no matter what, even when the public hates them.