No ‘Avengers’ in ‘Guardians of the Galaxy’; ‘Captain America 2′ Has Major Phase 2 Role

Published 2 years ago by , Updated June 20th, 2013 at 10:50 am,

Guardians of the Galaxy Avengers 2 No Avengers in Guardians of the Galaxy; Captain America 2 Has Major Phase 2 Role

Following reports that the Marvel Phase 2 films will be standalone stories that do not directly interweave with The Avengers 2 storyline, fans began to question whether or not they’d get to see any of the core characters sharing screen time prior to the next team-up in 2015.

Early, and now debunked, rumors had suggested that Phase 2 would be kicked-off with Iron Man in space, teasing Guardians of the Galaxy in 2014, while others suggested that Captain America could even make a brief appearance in Thor: The Dark World. However, as the pre-Avengers 2 projects have begun to take shape, we’re receiving a clearer picture of how Marvel intends to position each one in the larger shared universe – with a new report suggesting that while Captain America: The Winter Soldier will have the biggest role in setting up The Avengers 2, Guardians of the Galaxy will be entirely standalone without a single previously-established Avenger included.

Neither of these reports suggest entirely new information for anyone who has been following every Phase 2 story that we’ve posted on the site. That said, they do add further credibility to earlier rumors as well as present a few new details for fans to chew on – including who the Guardians of the Galaxy might face in the film as well as asserting that Black Widow’s backstory is a major focus in Captain America 2.

Guardians of the Galaxy in Avengers 2 No Avengers in Guardians of the Galaxy; Captain America 2 Has Major Phase 2 Role

The updates come courtesy of JoBlo who offered the following with regard to Guardians of the Galaxy:

  • Ronan The Accuser will be the film’s lead villain.
  • Thanos plays a large role in the overall scheme of things.
  • The Guardians will operate out of their base of operations, called Knowhere, a space station with the ability to teleport throughout the universe.
  • No members of The Avengers featured in the film, but that it does take place in the same time/universe as the current phase of films.

If the report is to be believed, it certainly adds further credence to Joss Whedon’s claims that the Guardians would not appear in Avengers 2 either. News that Guardians of the Galaxy won’t feature any Avengers characters may be disappointing to certain fans but, considering the amount of heroes and villains that Marvel will have to introduce in the film, it’s understandable that an appearance by Tony Stark could distract from properly establishing the cosmic superhero team. Iron Man 3 certainly proved that the studio was not afraid to tell an entirely separate storyline – so there’s no reason to think they’d balk at the same idea for Guardians of the Galaxy.

The source also suggests that Ronan the Accuser will serve as the primary antagonist – a character that could be played by Lee Pace (instead of the rumored Controller). Some fans might assume that recently signed Benicio Del Toro will play Ronan the Accuser but unless Marvel intends to keep their villain alive for future installments, Pace is the more likely bet – since Del Toro will appear in the film as part of a multi-picture deal. As a result, we’re still expecting Del Toro to have a larger role in the overarching shared universe storyline –  as The Collector or even Thanos.

 No Avengers in Guardians of the Galaxy; Captain America 2 Has Major Phase 2 Role

Still, the most interesting piece from the post suggests that the film will take place in the same time and universe as the other Phase 2 films – complicating rumors that Guardians of the Galaxy will actually occur in an alternate future. Maybe the source meant that certain portions of the film will take place in the Phase 2 time and universe – with room for the film to explore alien worlds and a future-setting after Chris Pratt’s Star Lord is brought into the fold? That or the futuristic elements that were previously rumored aren’t Earth-borne and simply represent present day tech on an advanced extraterrestrial planet – a planet that the team could easily visit (given Knowhere’s teleportation capabilities).

Unfortunately, JoBlo‘s Captain America: The Winter Soldier details aren’t quite as revealing but still offers some interesting details:

  • Pretty much a sequel to The Avengers and plays the biggest role in leading into The Avengers 2.
  • Will go more in-depth on Black Widow’s backstory and gadgetry.

As stated, without official confirmation, it’s worth taking these reports with a grain of salt for now. Still, it shouldn’t come as much of a surprise that we’ll be seeing some Black Widow backstory – especially since Captain America 2 has regularly been called a S.H.I.E.L.D. film. Digging into her backstory a bit should also be a welcome element of the storyline and, considering the character has been a fan-favorite supporting player in three Marvel Universe films, it’ll be fun to see how the filmmakers intend to use her “gadgetry” to up-the-ante – especially after the “Widow’s Bite” tease in The Avengers.

Chris Evans Steve Rogers Official SHIELD Captain America 2 No Avengers in Guardians of the Galaxy; Captain America 2 Has Major Phase 2 Role

Yet, the biggest question is certainly how Captain America: The Winter Soldier will both continue The Avengers story and serve as the most significant lead-in to The Avengers 2. For months, insiders were asserting that Guardians of the Galaxy would be the major lead-in to a cosmic Avengers 2 battle, so hearing that the, comparatively, more straightforward “political thriller” depicted in Captain America 2 will actually set-up the next mega team-up is slightly surprising – and certainly lend more credit to our recent speculation that Avengers 2 could be an Earth-based storyline (with, say, a rival team as villains), rather than the cosmic storyline many fans initially expected.

That said, coupled with the news that Guardians of the Galaxy will be entirely standalone, screenwriter Christopher Markus’ comments that Captain America 2 will determine “where loyalties lie” going into The Avengers 2 makes more sense – given that it’ll be the last standalone Phase 2 film with connections to Joss Whedon’s next installment. Also, since a certain actor suggested there could be conflicting goals within S.H.I.E.L.D., it’s certainly possible that even if the heroes win in Captain America 2, any resulting fallout would once again set the stage for bigger problems down the line – i.e. acquiring The Tesseract/Cosmic Cube in Captain America: The First Avenger paved the way for Loki to use it for nefarious purposes in The Avengers.


Iron Man 3 is currently in theaters, with Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014, The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films scheduled for May 6, 2016 and May 5, 2017.

Follow me on Twitter @benkendrick for more on Marvel Phase 2 as well as future movie, TV, and gaming news.

Source:  JoBlo

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  1. Does that mean Captain Marvel/Ms. Marvel? Kree-Skrull War for the Avengers?

  2. I trust Marvel 100% with their characters, stories, method, style and philosophy. They haven’t made any bad decisions yet as far as I’m concerned. A strange one here and there, yes. A bad one, no. Marvel knows exagcly what they are doing and building, so I say just trust them and watch this play out.

    Oh, and re-sign RDJ to a multi-film deal already!!!! :)

    • I think the one bad decision they made was Terry.

      • Sorry, my bad, I mean Trevor

  3. “…or the futuristic elements that were previously rumored aren’t Earth-borne and simply represent present day tech on an advanced extraterrestrial planet – a planet that the team could easily visit (given Knowhere’s teleportation capabilities).”

    Holy crow, Batman, they JUST figured it out! Wow. I could have told them that. You really think they’re going to miss out on an opportunity for fantastic use of CGI? What better place than a technologically advanced alien world? Jeez…yeah, they’re going to be in an alternate future. Totally. It’s not like they have previously established universe to tie into or anything.

    Sorry. I just figured that they should have realized what the “futuristic” really meant long before this article was ever published. I certainly did, and I’m just the average Joe Schmoe.

    • In fairness, the rumor that we had been reporting on specifically stated that it was an alternative Earth future – so we had merely reported that as a possibility at the time. It wasn’t like we saw futuristic bikes and decided the alternate future idea on our own ;)

      But, yeah, the new information certainly indicates that the source that started the alternative future timeline theory misunderstood or made an erroneous leap.

  4. AWESOME!!!!!!!! That is all.

  5. I think it MIGHT be possible for the Avengers and the Guardians to join forces in Avengers 3 (vs Thanos), but that’s still a far way off in the future. I agree with this move to make a movie just about the Guardians; having any Avengers guest-starring would be too distracting to the story.

    • Really adding GoTG to an Avengers 3 would probably over do it. I mean having them plus IM, Thor, Hulk, Cap, Shield, I assume Thanos, and whoever else will just be overload.

      • Well, it would be an insanely massive cast, but also note that in the comic storyline Thanos did wipe out most of all life in existence.

  6. I thought I read somewhere that Ronan was Thanos’s son in the Ultimate Universe. I just recently got into the Ultimate world so I have no clue about that, but it would be an interesting twist.

  7. I don’t know if it was mentioned, but Knowhere is actually the head of a Celestial. This means that the Celestials will be introduced too. Also, as far as the discussion above, the GoG can teleport anywhere in space so it’s possible Iron Man could be brought in for something like that. I don’t think they should, but the current IM storyline, “The Secret Origins of Tony Stark” explains that Tony was implanted with something before he was born to save his life, but also make him a genius with skills in defensive weapons. This was due to the fact that Earth was going to be targeted by the time he was an adult. That’s a little much for the movies, but interesting for the comics.

  8. I’d like to see a world war hulk movie come out!

  9. I got hooked on Guardians of the Galaxy after seeing them in the Amazing Spiderman cartoon. I only knew what they were until I watched it had gotten me more excited to see them now. I think they should be a stand alone from Avengers, for at least a couple movies, and then Marvel should do a lead up to the Kree War or something huge where both teams have to team up. Like, they could do Two Guardian movies, then start breaking them off and doing other team ups with Avengers characters, or having cameos in the later Guardian movies would be exciting to see. For now they need to stand out so they can have their own justice.