Green Lantern Green Lit; Is JLA On Deck?

Chip Chief says:

I think Jack Black would be perfect for the part

Chip Chief says:

Yes, always trying to stir the pot.

Actually, this is fantastic news, or at least is potentially fantastic depending on the result. GL has always been a favorite of mine, and there are enough cool GLs that a well cared for series could go on for years. Lets hope they get it right.

The Big Dentist says:

Noticed the quote top-right and I now have the perfect studio pitch:

“Soylent Green Lantern is people.”

$5 million please.

Kyle says:

Hal Jordan is a far more interesting character than Guy or John. John had his shot in Justice League. Guy…well, no one really cares much for him.

Kyle Rayner is alright, but Hal tops him any day. Hal deserves his chance in the spotlight.

And Sinestro HAS to be there. It’s not a GL movie without him.

greenknight333 says:

Justice League will happen if GL does well, Batman destroying BO records, Superman will probaly cameo Flash or WW..GL is my favorite DC character so this is awesome news!!! It should be the Hal Jordan character IMO with maybe appearances by Guy Gardiner and JS in a trilogy….Slow down getting ahead of myself here…I think a younger George Clooney or Dennis Qauid would have made a perfect Hal Jordan….No ideas for an actor to play him now though…

Rob says:

This movie would be pretty awesome if done right.

As for JLA, that can only happen IF and only IF they have Bele and Routh in it, none of this campy B-movie actor crap.

I’m not a DC fan, but I would love to see their title characters all have awesome movies and a propper JLA to rival the upcoming Marvel heavy hitters and the Avengers.

Geek is the new cool.

the old man says:

Well I guess Megan Gale impressed at her reading for Wonder Woman. You think if they retool the script over the winter they can begin shooting JL by summer?

With Nolan working on something else. Bale is currently working on “Terminator”, Routh working on “Dead of Night”, which both are scheduled for 2009, maybe it could be filmed this summer.

the old man says:

If he owns a piece of it, we have no hope!

Mike Shields says:

Well, Keanu already portrayed a DC character, John Constantine, so, it’s unlikely that he’ll get the nod for anything else DC related….

KEL says:

Sorry for coming to this post so late, guys. My PC was down for ten days so naturally I missed a lot of stuff. But I’m back now with my usual mammoth sized post, go to the bathroom, get somethin ta drink and eat cuz there’s a long post ahead, my brothers!

I call this little pice “JUSTICE LEAGUE: BLOGGED AND MEMO TO WB”, where I basically rant on how to make a good JLA film. In other words, these are my suggestions on how to make the JLA film great.

I for one hope and think it will happen. And while I’d love to see individual films first leading up into a big ensemble JLA film, it isn’t gonna happen. A JLA film is the best chance we’ve got at seeing of DC’s finest on screen. If WB/DC had been smarter a few years ago when they started to recycle the Batman and Superman film franchises, they could’ve set the two respective films up in the same universe, establishing a DC film U, but they didn’t, so there is no way that we’ll be seeing individual films that lead into JLA first, and we especially won’t be seeing Singer’s Superman and Nolan’s Batman in an ensemble movie together. Just face the reality and accept that a JLA film will happen first, hopefully it will be good and will serve as a springboard for individual DC character films like Green Lantern, The Flash, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, etc. Short of doing individual character films first that lead into an Justice League film, this is the best way t o do it.

2010 IS THE ONLY CHANCE

Look, Marvel has the Avengers scheduled for release in 2011, which, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, is gonna be HUGE. If DC wants to beat Marvel to the punch with a big superhero team movie, a JLA film HAS to be put out BEFORE the Avengers. If not, Marvel will have out done DC in just about every way possible on screen (like they haven’t already) and a JLA movie will seem second best, like a Johnny-come-lately after the Avengers comes out. I say get this thing into production and let’s get it out there, dammit, before people get sick of these movies! However, having said that, when it id made, I want it to be good. Not some rushed piece of crap – I’d rather wait 20 years to see a good JLA film instead of getting a really crappy one within the next year. So if it takes a while to get it right, no sweat, take the time, just make it right.

RESPECT THE SOURCE

The closer a comics film is to the source material, the more successful it is. Iron Man and Spider-Man, among other films, are proof of that. There is no need to completely reinvent the characters from what they were in the comics into…..whatever. Now when I say “respect the source”, I don’t mean to tell an exact comic book story, panel for panel, on film, I mean keep the status quo of the comic books, the simple, obvious stuff, and tell just tell a new story with it. For instance, don’t give Superman a bastard child, make Batman a killer, have Krypton never explode, have the Martian Manhunter be from someplace other than Mars, alter costumes majorly, etc, don’t do things that go against the status quo that the comics have established over the course of years, the things that are constants with all the characters’ stories. Just play with the toys that are ALREADY THERE. Keep the characters’ stories, costumes, and everything else as close to the books as realistically possible and create a story that is best fit for film.

NO SECOND STRINGERS

This film has gotta have the classic, original, A-list lineup: Superman. Batman. Wonder Woman. The Flash. Green Lantern. Martian Manhunter. Aquaman. Anything else would be an abomination. It’s gotta be the A-List, especially in the first movie.

NO LESS THAN 2 HOURS & 15 MINUTES LONG

A film this size, with SO many (iconic) characters, simply can’t be done under 2 hours. It. Just. Can’t. I’ve heard rumors that the film was supposed to be 90 minutes, that’s a completely ridiculous runtime and will be crap if cut like that. All the characters must be well developed, anything under 2 1/4 hours ain’t gonna cut it. WB, you guys have a Batman film coming up that’s over 2 hours and 30 minutes, a JLA with a similar runtime shouldn’t be a problem.

HOLY TRINITY

Superman. Batman. Wonder Woman. Capitalize on these guys! Advertise ‘em like crazy! Everyone knows who Superman and Batman are, most people can recognize WW, people will go crazy over them being in a movie together! People who are unfamiliar with the other League members who may not even be aware of the JLA as a comics team will go and see a movie with Superman and Batman in it. It must live up to the hype. These 3 must be featured very prominently throughout the film. A JLA movie can’t be made without the big 3. To quote Brad Meltzer on the matter, “That’d be like throwing a seventies party and saying ‘no crappy clothes’”.

HAL JORDAN

I know that DC/WB is keen on using John Stewart to add some ethnic diversity to the team (Martian Manhunter is green, but I guess that doesn’t count cuz he isn’t real ), and that’s fine by me because Hal Jordan is getting his own Green Lantern film. But Hal Jordan is a major fan favorite, and a lot of people have expressed how pissed off they are over John being used instead Hal in the film. Is there a solution? Yes. Compromise. John Stewart can be the main Green Lantern in the JLA film, but have Hal show up in a scene and converse with John. Just 40 seconds of face-time for Hal Jordan and fans will go wild and will love the movie to death. If Marvel can get Tony Stark to have a 90 second scene with Thunderbolt Ross at the end of Incredible Hulk then surely DC/WB can get Hal to cameo in JLA. Besides, what better way to establish to audiences that there’s more than one Green Lantern then to have Hal and John appear in the same film? This will also get more people interested in the Green Lantern film, and will help them accept Hal Jordan, who is a white guy, being the GL in the GL film. So there ya have it, John is the main GL featured in the JLA film, but Hal shows up for a half a minute cameo. Done. Everyone’s happy. It doesn’t drastically change the film one bit, if anything, it gets it more fan support.

THE FLASH

I don’t know for sure which Flash WB and CO are planning on using, but may I make a suggestion? BARRY ALLEN. Why? Well, first of all, he’s the most self contained of all the Flashes, you don’t have to know who Jay Garrick, Wally West, or Bart Allen are in order to know who Barry is. To tell Wally’s story, Barry has to be established first, Wally’s character’s entire reason for being is is based on Barry Allen. Wally was Kid Flash, Barry’s sidekick and nephew, like Robin to Batman, before he became Flash, and from what I hear, WB isn’t keen on there being more than 1 Flash in their film, I don’t blame them. As if it isn’t enough for audiences to accept one speedster and the rest of the JLA, they have to accept a Flash sidekick, who’s essentially a miniature Barry Allen? Pretty thin, and not a good idea for the first big screen outing for the character from where I sit. Secondly, Barry Allen has the coolest secret identity; he’s a forensic scientist, which is, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, an extremely popular job in entertainment these days. Look at CSI Miami, Bones, Silent Witness, Criminal Minds, Dexter, NCIS, Monk, all popular and successful shows about forensic scientists, a superhero with this job would be very well accepted, Barry is that superhero. Also, he’s the only Flash to consistently have a secret identity. Up until recently (for over 18 years), Wally’s identity was publicly known, he was viewed as a sort of celebrity, similar to the Fantastic 4. Barry Allen also has the best origin (also the most self contained); “Barry Allen is a 24 year old police scientist with a reputation for being very slow, deliberate, and frequently late, which frustrated his girlfriend/eventual fiancée, Iris West. One night, as he was preparing to leave work, a lightning bolt shattered a case full of chemicals and spilled them all over him. As a result, Barry found that he could run extremely fast, had matching reflexes, and had complete control over his molecular structure. He donned a red suit sporting a lightning bolt, dubbed himself the Flash, and became a crimefighter” (- wikipedia). ‘Nuff said. He was also a founding member of the original JLA, even suggesting the word “justice” be used in the alliance’s name. Barry would be the best Flash to translate to film. The only way they could possibly use Wally would be if they took Barry’s story and gave it to Wally, much like the JLU show did. Not to mention that Geoff Johns and Ethan Van Sciver are re-launching the Flash comic this January (Jan 2009) with Barry Allen as the lead Flash again in Flash: Rebirth, much like they did with Hal Jordan in the Green Lantern comic back in 2005, so it would be great if the on screen Flash were the same as the Flash in the current comic books. Also, WB and CO, while the Flash character, namely Barry and Wally, has always maintained a good sense of humor, PLEASE, PLEASE, don’t make the Flash a complete joke. He can be humorous, even the team’s so called “comedy relief”, but do not make the Flash into a joke. I don’t think he should be played as jokey as he was on the JL/JLU show played him, the Flash on that show’s personality was much more in line with Bart Allen’s from his Impulse days then that of the actual Wally West or Barry Allen. I don’t want to see the Flash doing something stupid every time he shows up just for a cheap laugh from the audience, The Flash is a sensible guy, not an idiot and shouldn’t be played that way.

NO MORE SUPERMAN THE WUSS

WB and CO, Take a cue from the JLU show and Byrne era Superman and have Supes kick some long over due ass this time, please. All the way back to the Reeve films, WB has played Superman as a punching bag wimp. No more. Let Superman cut loose, Superman shouldn’t take **** from no one, let him FIGHT something. Give us a the REAL Superman, the tough, ass kicking Superman.

BATMAN: THE THINKING MAN

Fer godsakes, this Batman has got to be a smart one. The JLA Batman needs to be Batman the detective, the tactician, the thinking man, the guy who can outsmart everyone, who’s physically the least powerful on the team, but if he puts his mind to it he can do anything. If he puts his mind to it he could destroy every member on the team. That’s the only way Batman can be valuable to the League, he’s “the smart one”. He’s also got to be the technological genius, the guy with all the gadgets and things, he’s got to be inventive, he built the Watchtower, the League’s headquarters, the batmobile, etc. Those aspects of Batman need to be focused on very heavily in this film, because if they aren’t, Batman’s just a guy who’s good at hiding and beating up people, which isn’t very impressive or useful when compared to the guy who can throw mountains, or the guy who can move at lightspeed, or the guy who can read minds and fly, etc. The JLA Batman has to be a bi t t more of a sci fi type Batman instead of the “real world” Batman of the Nolan’s films in order to fit into the world of Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, and the JLA.

A VILLAIN WORTHY OF THEIR TALENTS

Darkseid. The White Martians. Brainiac. Mongul. Amazo. Max Lord and the OMACs. Despero. Anyone of these would make a great choice for the JLA’s first big screen outing. There should be lots of fights and battles throughout the movie, Transformers scale stuff. Have Supes and Darkseid have a showdown while the rest of the League fights parademons, stuff like that. It has to be HUGE.

NO ORIGIN, PLEASE

There’s no need to have Justice League be an origin film. I just don’t see the reason. They’re 7 superheroes, there doesn’t have to be an elaborate explanation for why they team exists. If individual characters’ origins are mentioned or explained briefly, that’s fine, but there’s no need for this to be a long winded origin film, IMO.

STAPLES OF THE LEAGUE

Martian Manhunter is a MUST. He must be in this film. He’s got many awesome abilities, he looks cool, he’s one of DC’s most interesting characters, he has to be in this film. He’s become one of DC’s most popular characters in such a short amount of time because of the cartoons. Even my mom likes him. He doesn’t need a part as major as Superman, Batman, WW, Flash, or even GL, but he needs to be there and have a purpose. Aquaman should be in it too, however he won’t need to be shown that much, out of all the characters, he could have the least amount of face-time.That said, when he does show up, WB and CO, don’t treat him as a joke because he lives under water and can communicate with sea creatures. Show why he’s valuable to the League. If not, then don’t even include him in the film. Perhaps in sequels The Atom (Ray Palmer), and Green Arrow (Oliver Queen), Hawkman & Hawkgirl, and Black Canary could have cameos.

CASTING WITH JUSTICE

Cast very carefully. If many unknowns are cast for the heroes, they must be able to look and sound like them and ACT. However, a film like this needs some star power, a familiar face needs to be in it, whether it’s as a villain or hero or even a supporting character, there must be at least 1-2 big names with a project this size, in my opinion. Granted, some of the characters will sell the movie itself, like Superman and Batman, but the rest of the Leaguers, unfortunately, won’t be getting that much attention unless there’s a bigger name playing them or there’s a big name in the film. Look at Iron Man, most people had no idea who that character was but they knew who Robert Downey Jr. was, and that’s what got their attention, that he was playing a character like that, and ultimately, I think that factored into the film’s success. Something similar needs to be done with the League. I’m not saying cast big names as all the heroes or even most the heroes, but for some par ts, maybe a vi llain, there need s to be a big name cast. While GOOD unknowns are…good, a film this size can’t support itself on only nobodies, a big name needs to be thrown in somewhere.

GET PEOPLE WHO GIVE A DAMN

This goes for director, writer, costume designer, etc, if the people don’t care about the source material, then the film doesn’t work. Remember, the closer it is to the source material, the more successful the film is, which is why it’s so important that the makers of the movie care about the JLA.

THEY HAVE TO LOOK LIKE THE JLA

Look, the JLA ain’t X-Men. Their suits are iconic, they mean something, they’re individuals, they’re a major part of what makes them so recognizable. Wonder Woman needs to look like Wonder Woman. Superman needs to look like Superman. The Flash needs to look The Flash. Martian Manhunter needs to look like the Martian Manhunter, and dare I say it, Batman needs to look like Batman. I’m not saying that the suits need to be made out of cheap spandex and tighty tights, but the overall look of the characters needs maintain the appearance they’ve had in the comics. Make the suits out of stylish materials, like the Spider-Man movie suit, or Daredevil movie suit, or even the Superman Returns suit’s material, there’s a way to do the comic book suits and make them look good without compromising the classic comic book looks. It doesn’t have to be “Adam West” or plastic/rubbery Tim Burton, there are plenty of different styles and materials to chose from to make each character look believable and respectful of their comics counterparts. They shouldn’t look like X-Men or wear black rubber/plastic or junk hugging, peter pan tights. There is a way to get the costumes right.

IMPRESSIVE. MOST IMPRESSIVE

Do something people have never seen before, make the audience feel like they’ve been somewhere. Do some really epic stuff, impress people with the SFX and fight scenes. Do trivial things that will excite people (examples) like Superman and Flash having a race, show how Martian Manhunter shape shifts, have GL make giant hands or whatever with his ring, do a close up of the Flash vibrating his molecules so he can pass thru solid objects, or have him run up the side of a building, stuff like that and more. Make people remember the movie. Do some Star Wars-ian, real epic type stuff.

TEAM SCORE

The JLA movie soundtrack must not be anything short of Williamsesque if you catch my drift. It can’t be filled with secular tunes that will make the film look dated ten years from now. It also must have a score that holds up with the rest of the film, unlike some of the greatest latest comics film, such as Iron Man, Batman Begins, and Incredible Hulk (great stories, poor scores). In other words, WB and CO, get somebody like John Willaims to score it.

NOT ANOTHER CARTOON

No way should it be anything other than live action, dammit. I think it would take away from the film’s box office and wouldn’t quite do the characters, who have been waiting a loooooongtime to be in a live action, big budget movie, if you’ll pardon my choice of word, JUSTICE. Save the “mo-cap” crap video game stuff or whatever for DTVs or TV. Besides, THE AVENGERS is gonna be live action.

AN AMERICAN NAME

Look, I’m all for having “America” in the name, but I have a feeling that Justice League of America would make for too long of a title, and not everyone would get the acronym “JLA”, plus WB and CO are concerned with how to market a film with “America” in its name overseas. So I say that the film simply be called “Justice League” and in the film the League can be referred to as JLA (Justice League of America) and Justice league, JLA can be the logo on their headquarters, equipment, etc. It’s a nice compromise and I think it’d work.

DON’T LISTEN TO THE HATERS

I’m talking about the ungrateful nits who say they don’t ever want a JLA film (but will go see it opening day heheh). The people who are constantly prophecying “doom and gloom” for a JLA film, a film of which they actually know very, very little about. Don’t worry about them. Once some pictures and a trailer are released they’ll be all over how awesome the film is, so pay no attention to the petty whiners who don’t want a JLA film made cuz it’ll “get in the way of their Batman and/or Superman films”, which is complete BS, by the way. The more success and exposure these characters have, the better, it keeps them household names (in a good way), makes more money for DC/WB, and is a win/win scenario for we, the fans, who get to see more of our respective heroes. I have no problem with Bale and Routh’s Batman and Superman being on screen the same time as the JLA’s Batman and Superman. I will go see them all. (Just make it good! )

Now hopefully, somebody important reading this will take my suggestions into consideration and we’ll have a truly awesome JLA film. I wish WB and CO the best with all their DC Comics based projects and hope for the best with this film.

KEL says:

GL film based post coming soon….

790 says:

KEL’s the man !!!!
Don’t forget us here when DC hires you !!!

Mike Shields says:

KEL,
Your analysis is flawed. Why can’t the Singer Superman and Nolan Batman exist in the same Universe? Also, this post is about the GL film being greenlit, with Hal Jordan. The WW film has been on the boards for years, and will be made before any JLA film is even thought of. It all comes downto development, how fast, and who’s at the helm.

We know that another Batman film is at least 2 years away. Same with Superman. GL in 2009 if they start now, and WW in 2010. Why not go head to head with Avengers in 2011? DC has always had the better characters.

Furthermore, the various moviemakers in question don’t give a rip about the comic book fans, and from what I’ve seen, staying true to the characters’ comic book version hasn’t done them any favors. Anyone remember The Phantom? Didn’t think so….

790 says:

Yeah Old Man Zane was soo good in Dead Calm, that I hate him to this day ,,,,
Seriously.

Never kill the dog !

the old man says:

He did make a good villain didn’t he! Your right never kill the dog… except when they turn rabid like in “I Am Legend.” Which had a couple of “Green Lantern” easter Eggs in it..

Mike Shields says:

One exchange and we’re already at, “Does not!!! Does too!!!” We’re going to have to agree to disagree about Iron Man, as I believe, and others agree with me, that the lead was poorly miscast.

The movie version of Spider-Man takes away from one of the things that is unique to the comic book, i.e. he can run out of webbing. That’s a MAJOR change.

So, to review, GL has been greenlit, and JLA hasn’t, and yet you still believe that JLA will come out first? Can I move to your world where Hollywood works the way we want it to?

You’d lose the farm, as the animated WW is coming out shortly. Note, you didn’t specify live action

It doesn’t make sense to make a JLA film so close to the release of The New Frontier, and I’m guessing that it will 2012 before we see a live action version.

Batman will collapse even w/Nolan, based on Bale’s latest bloviation, and what the next film has to be about….

Mike Shields says:

Let’s see, Anthony Stark, tall and thin, RDJ, short and stocky. Not too much of a stretch to see where my opinions are coming from. Remember, the fans of the comic book are in the minority, which is probably what your site caters to….

Mike Shields says:

It’s only a contradiction if you worship at the altar of RDJ. The Iron Man Movie has other problems, which we shouldn’t really go into here, as this is a post about a different character made by a different company. However, to continue, my point goes more to, they didn’t stay close enough to the comic book for me.

Mike Shields says:

I’d have to ask where you’re getting your data on non comic book fans of, and you didn’t specify, either Iron Man, or RDJ. Clearly, RDJ fans have no problem with himi getting parts, no matter what they are. If you’re speaking of non-comic book fans of the movie itself, then clearly, we travel in different circles….

Mike Shields says:

Clearly, I wasn’t clear about 3 posts ago, when I stated I didn’t want to discuss a Marvel character on a DC thread, so, to conclude that part of the conversation, I’ll simply restate, you and the fans you mention above travel in different circles than I do.

So, back to all that is the WB, Bale has stated he won’t do the film if Robin is introduced. A classic case of actor’s disease if I’ve ever seen one. Now, if you believe that they won’t bring Robin into the next film, then you may have your next Batman movie with Bale. This would mean that they’re still following year one, and by deduction, Catwoman will be the next villain. However, originally, IIRC, Robin was around the first time she was introduced. As we’re speculating wildly on something that doesn’t even have a screenplay yet, further commentary would prove fruitless.

To wrap this up, as originally posited by Kel, and rebutted by me, JLA will not happen before GL, and WW will happen before JLA, whether or not the individual films in the WB/DCU lead up to it or not.

I’m willing to be proven wrong by TPTB, however, simply stating facts that don’t really exist, is not helpful to any conversation, as KEL did in his original post.

I hope this clarifies my stance on everything I’ve stated previously. It might be helpful to suggest a place where this thread can be moved to, so it’s more likely on topic….

However, I’m not going to participate in any thread solely devoted to Marvel characters

Daniel says:

I liked RDJ long before he was ever cast as ironman. Before he was cast it was mostly comic fans who didn’t like him because they thought he was a bad choice. Now after the move your the only person I have ever seen or heard of that didn’t like him and thought he was terrible.

KEL says:

Mike Shields,

“One exchange and we’re already at, “Does not!!! Does too!!!” We’re going to have to agree to disagree about Iron Man, as I believe, and others agree with me, that the lead was poorly miscast. ”

Yup. Agree to disagree.

“The movie version of Spider-Man takes away from one of the things that is unique to the comic book, i.e. he can run out of webbing. That’s a MAJOR change.”

Yeah, but that didn’t affect the story in anyway or detract from the film. It’s still a great comic book movie, one of the 5 best. The film got more right then wrong. (and the costume was great! )

“So, to review, GL has been greenlit, and JLA hasn’t, and yet you still believe that JLA will come out first? Can I move to your world where Hollywood works the way we want it to?”

I didn’t necessarily believe that JLA would come out before GL, I was just saying it was a possibilty. Given the recent news ([url]http://screenrant.com/warner-bros-embraces-dc-superheroes-niall-3437/[/url]) it seems that JLA, for the moment, won’t be happening for a while (until they get it right anyway).

“You’d lose the farm, as the animated WW is coming out shortly. Note, you didn’t specify live action”

Heh. I meant live action, but giving the recent news (above ^) you might be right. However, DC/WB has yet to announce anything on the WW film at all, last time anything was said about the film was that if it happened it wouldn’t be till after JLA (depending on how it did at the BO), which, for the moment, isn’t happening for a while. Of course, that bit of news on the WW film is months old now, and with all the recent developments with WB/DC on the future of their films, I wouldn’t be surprised if they announced that WW will be up and running again (and even lead into JLA). Everything in my post was based on previous information on the project – all subject to change. That animated feature is looking great, IMO. Possibly the best DC DTV yet, IMO. I’d imagine that the folks in the movie biz might take a hint from it and get the live action movie (there) off the ground soon.

“It doesn’t make sense to make a JLA film so close to the release of The New Frontier, and I’m guessing that it will 2012 before we see a live action version.”

I don’t see what the release of the animated DTV New Frontier has anything to do with the live action JLA film, if anything all this exposure thru cartoons and so on is a good thing and will only add to the success of a JLA film. But right now, if WB is to do individual films leading into JLA (Flash, GL, WW, World’s Finest) I wouldn’t expect to see JLA for at least another 5 years, give or take. :/ Hopefully they can release 2 DC films per year, wouldn’t that be great?

“Batman will collapse even w/Nolan, based on Bale’s latest bloviation, and what the next film has to be about….”

Umm…doubtful. Bale’s “incident”, IMO, won’t make or break the next Batman film (starring him). He raised his voice to his mom, it’s not like he got drunk and attacked jews. I think people will (and should) get over it. So if there is a third Nolan film, everything’ll be fine.

“So, back to all that is the WB, Bale has stated he won’t do the film if Robin is introduced. A classic case of actor’s disease if I’ve ever seen one. Now, if you believe that they won’t bring Robin into the next film, then you may have your next Batman movie with Bale. This would mean that they’re still following year one, and by deduction, Catwoman will be the next villain. However, originally, IIRC, Robin was around the first time she was introduced. As we’re speculating wildly on something that doesn’t even have a screenplay yet, further commentary would prove fruitless.”

I honestly thought Bale was joking on the Robin bit. But even so, Robin, with his red, green, and yellow suit, simply would not fit into Nolan’s Batman U. They can’t take away those things from Robin – changing his suit and all that, maybe making him older – they can’t do that without destroying the character. Robin does not fit into Nolan’s Batman U, and neither does Superman, WW, Flash, or GL. Nolan’s Batman is more like the Punisher film, there’s no “gee whiz” factor to it – there’s no batmobile, batcave, batcomputer, batplane, Batman isn’t the gadget/detective extraordinaire he was in the comics, the classic black and gray flexible Batman suit is gone, how in the hell could Robin possibly fit into that universe? In order for Robin to exist, they need to do the comic book Batman that I mentioned in my “MEMO TO WB” JLA movie post. That doesn’t mean that they should do it all campy either, just do the Batman: The Animated Series/JL/JLU Batman, and then Robin works fine. Someday, when someone does Batman like that, Robin will work in a Batman film. But not Nolan’s Batman films. They’re very close to the comics as far as story goes, but that’s it.

“To wrap this up, as originally posited by Kel, and rebutted by me, JLA will not happen before GL, and WW will happen before JLA, whether or not the individual films in the WB/DCU lead up to it or not.”

At this point, until further notice, I’d have to agree with you.

“I’m willing to be proven wrong by TPTB, however, simply stating facts that don’t really exist, is not helpful to any conversation, as KEL did in his original post.”

My original post, “JUSTICE LEAGUE MOVIE: BLOGGED AND MEMO TO WB” was full of nothing but my opinion based on the way WB/DC was developing their projects at the time. The succeeding posts, however, where I talked about the development of the WW and JLA film and so on, were facts. I can get you the links to back up what I was saying if necessary…

“I won’t be following this discussion anymore, so, go ahead and feel free to get the last word.”

Doh! I hope you’ll at least read that big ass post I just got done typing. After all, I did it for you heheh.

Good chatting with ya.

bazzom316 says:

It is about time GL got some star time insted of being in background