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5 Ways to Save ‘Green Lantern 2′
by Andrew Dyce
(6 of 5)
We all know it: Green Lantern (2011) missed the mark, and missed it by a mile (read our review, if you must), ultimately stranding any plans for Green Lantern 2 in limbo.
The hero might end up getting a second chance alongside the rest of DC's finest in Justice League... if it ever gets made. But we're still convinced (as is DC executive and GL-mastermind Geoff Johns) that the character could work on film, given the right set-up and story.
Rather than nitpick every single thing the movie got wrong (we've done that already), we've put together a plan for not only convincing fans that the mistakes of the first movie wouldn't be repeated, but also delivering an adventure worthy of the character, while providing enough mythos for future sequels.
Read on for our instructions on How To Save Green Lantern 2 in 5 Easy Steps.
The hero might end up getting a second chance alongside the rest of DC's finest in Justice League... if it ever gets made. But we're still convinced (as is DC executive and GL-mastermind Geoff Johns) that the character could work on film, given the right set-up and story.
Rather than nitpick every single thing the movie got wrong (we've done that already), we've put together a plan for not only convincing fans that the mistakes of the first movie wouldn't be repeated, but also delivering an adventure worthy of the character, while providing enough mythos for future sequels.
Read on for our instructions on How To Save Green Lantern 2 in 5 Easy Steps.
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I’d rather see a GL-reboot centered around John Stewart. No need for two Lanterns, allow Reynolds a chance to pass the torch and be done with the franchise.
I’m a Marvel guy but I enjoyed Green Lantern for what it was and I like almost any movie with Ryan Reynolds.. I’m not sure I’d be interested in another Green Lantern movie without Reynolds..
+1
Umm, @ Enormous Green Rage Monster
This a topic on SaneSensibleEmeraldColorman.
Your tread is on another post.
@ JEFF W
THREAD!
Sheesh
I’m not sure I’d be interested in another Green Lantern movie with Reynolds..
Avoid the the biggest downfall of the the first film. In 2:30 of runtime you can be an epic space adventure, or a earth based superhero film, but there is not time to be both. Good films focus.
Actually they could of pulled off both if they had a bit more faith the film could be a successful trilogy and have a need to pretty much everything up at once. Plus I would of dialed back on the romance story.
It’s time that Warner Bros. give John Stewart his own film. He’s the definitive Green Lantern for this current generation due to the animated series, and I’d like to see his backstory tackled in a reboot. Cast Nate Parker before Marvel makes him the Black Panther.
No, no it’s not. It’s time for Warner to learn from its mistakes and give Hal Jordan, the definitive Green Lantern, the movie he deserves.
I could be out of touch with the current generation of kids, but I’m guessing Hal Jordan is the most recognized Green Lantern.
actually John is more popluar
Yeah, no. John Stewart is great and all, but just because he’s used as the token black guy for the cartoons doesn’t make him the definitive GL. In fact, pretty much since GL Rebirth, Hal Jordan has been on FIRE. The comics should always be trusted over any other media. Hal is certainly the definitive Green Lantern. Of this, there can be no doubt.
I agree why people are confused that Stewart is THE Green Lantern because of the Justice League cartoon. Seriously..anyone who says that does not read the books (comics). Jordan is the Premier GL. Stewart is in the Green Lantern Corps comics alongsiode Guy Gardner…and hasn’t really been show cased since Blackest Night. So…to all who think that John Sterwart is THE green lantern because of what you saw in the Justice League cartoons…..forget what you know because sadly for you…that was not canon. the comics are. Speaking of comics…it’s Hal Jordan that’s in the current Justice League comics…not stewart. Sorry to break it to you guys.
I didn’t have nearly as many issues with the first movie as some, but this all sounds great to me. As a big Green Lantern fan since I was a kid I can really see this direction paying off.
They advertised the first one so much that you knew it was going to be terrible. They should just can the whole thing.
It just HAD to be a slideshow, didn’t it?
Love that NEXT button!
How many years apart should part 2 be from part 1? If the time frame is too short wouldn’t bringing in two addtional human lanterns feel rushed?
A GL reboot about John Stewart.
This is a comic book movie… Meaning its based on the comics. If you dont know the chsracters backstory, you have no readon to be watching this film….
You couldn’t be more wrong.
A film should be able to stand on its own two feet.
By your logic, people need to have read all the LotR books to watch the movies, and all the Harry Potter books for that franchise’s films.
if anything, the film should encourage people to read the source material, but it’s not the other way round.
I’m sure the majority of people who’ve seen The Avengers or TDK trilogy didn’t read any of the comics beforehand.
Always a valid and well thought out perspective The Avenger. I agree.
Sounds good, as long as you:
6. Take the action away from Earth.
-One of the problems I had with the original was that it felt too Earthbound and small scale to do the Green Lantern story any real justice. Take the fight away from Earth, don’t even go there for the sequel if you can. Make it a massive space opera, like Abrams Star Trek or Star Wars.
7. Bring in the Green Lantern Corps.
-Don’t wait to give them their own movie, THIS is their movie. The crowd scene was one of my favorite moments from the original film, but they deserve to be more than voiceless CGI faces. It may be a bit daunting to try and bring in the ENTIRE Corps [given that there are 7200 of them], but you can do more than just Sinestro, Kilowog, and Tomar Re. Build an ensemble cast around Hal, with a few extras playing the background when needed. You can’t do a Sinestro Corps War movie without allowing people to care about the Corps first, and I promise you that the casual moviegoer didn’t get a chance to feel anything for the Green Lantern Corps the first time around. Sinestro Corps should be Green Lantern 3, and Green Lantern 2 should be how we get there. It should highlight the GL Corps, Hal’s relationship with Sinestro, and Sinestro’s fall from grace.
That was my thinking before, but now the idea of introducing Guy Gardner, then following him with the Honor Guardians and larger Corps in totally space-based adventures seems like a complement, not a replacement for Hal.
We need Idris Elba as a Green Lamtern!!!!
Acknowledge the first move: YES
Keep Ryan Reynolds: YES
Keep Sinestro: YES
bring in other Lanterns and go to War: NO
at least not Earth Lanterns. If he needs to team up, do it with the already established Lantern Corp characters. Develop them better and work them in organically. Bringing in John Stewart and Guy Gardner would just clutter things up. Its too much, too soon. I agree that maybe starting with Gardner or Stewart wouldve been better but we got Jordan and we have to stick with it for now. Maybe we can introduce these guys in the third or a Justice League sequel. But for now, just one guy at a time and keep things contained
The next Green Lantern needs to be a buddy cop movie… IN SPAAAACE. Keep Hal Jordan and bring in ether John Stewart or Kyle Rayner as the young Lantern who Jordan is showing the ropes. But for the love of God, Warner, do not reboot GL with a John Stewart. Give Jordan a movie he deserves.
I really hope they change the sfx for the movie. It was downright ridiculous looking. Even the hardlight structures looked comical in the way they were made.
And re-watching the movie, you can look at some of the constructs that he makes, and they don’t even appear from his ring. He just throws his fist in a certain direction, and then suddenly a construct forms out of thin air. There was no connection to the ring. In the cartoons and the comics, there was always a green band of sorts connecting the constructs to the ring. Another thing was when he would form gun-like constructs, and when he fired them they would have yellow muzzle flashes. Turn those green, and you’ve already improved the quality of the movie.
Haha the muzzle flashes stood out to me too on repeat viewing. “You can make anything your mind can come up with!” “Awesome! I’ll make a little sword!”
Really? My biggest issue with the constructs was just how static and unmoving everything felt. It’s a weapon, not a ring that builds solid objects that just…..exist.
I might be missing something… But can he seriously make a working flamethrower out of that stuff? like one that somehow defies ALL laws of physics and turns solid green light energy into a flame with no fuel or projection mechanism for said impossible flame/fuel?
(I could have worked with it being a lazer)
And maybe I was majorly duped into watching some alternate and even worse version of the movie than the rest of you guys… But what was with him saving a crashing helicopter by making it into a hotwheels car on a track? Why not just go for a simple catchers mitt?
Also they need to tone down the CGI. While I have seen worse they need to make him a suit and an actual mask.
Bingo. I actually didn’t mind the way they showed energy flowing from his chest out to the ring when using it, but the mask proved it was a broken approach.
The CGI suit was too much. A good idea but it just didn’t work. Go for a practical suit that can be heavily altered with special effects to achieve the “energy suit” look.
Green Lantern needs a soft reboot. Man of Steel is treating Superman as earth’s first contact and the catalyst of a new DC universe. Everything GL did will contradict MoS. It already negates MoS alien first contact angle and it’s a completely different tone and style that does not fit in the world they are building.
Robin John Blake could fit in the new universe with intro of aliens and alien technology allowing more fantastical elements from the comics and give us the more comic Batman while staying true to everything That has been built. But Reynold’s GL simply does not work. They can bring back Reynolds but a soft reboot is mandatory for the the universe to work.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by “soft reboot” exactly?
I consider Incredible Hulk a soft reboot. In a way it works as a sequel but at the same time it’s still a new interpretation of the character.
Honestly, i’m still of the opinion that a JL film should be a seperate 3 part film not part of a larger universe. Basically the Lord of the Rings with superheroes. But if they are going to make MoS the foundation for a new film, than the subsequent movies need to be of a similiar tone where they feel like they can co-exist. IMO Reynold’s GL does not fit in this world.
I could see Robin John Blake working if WB feels the need to have familiarity established, which IMO makes the most sense since any rebooted Batman would instantly draw comparison’s to Bale if they use MoS as a template for DC movies. A combination of Dick Grayson as Batman, Terry Mcguiniss(?) and classic Batman to bring about the more fantasical side of Bamtman due to aliens and alien tech. Just how Bale’s Batman changed Gotham with a new breed of criminals (i.e. The Joker), Superman will change the world with a new breed of superheroes and supervillains.
Stop it with TDK continuities. Its beating a dead horse.
At this point I don’t think it matters what they do with GL. He’s a second tier character behind Superman & Batman in the eyes of WB, & they aren’t interested in those right now. I’m shocked the first GL got made, but it did, & bombed, so now WB is even more skiddish on any sequels.
DC needs a Joss W./Kevin F. type in charge. Heck, even Fox has a frontman in Millner, as much as they and he suck, at least they have somebody, a frontman so to speak, somebody in charge.
WB/DC though has nobody in that role which speaks more to them being a joke than a legitimate superhero movie making studio.
Zack Snyder? (assuming Man of Steel does well)
That might be a great idea. Snyder def loves his comics books (Watchmen, 300). He actually wanted to keep the Supe’s red briefs but it was the studio who said they needed to go.
@Ignur Rant
That was somthing i did not know. Thanks for sharing that.
I think Ryan did what he could with Hal but I thought they looked too much into the irresponsibility in Hal. Hal Jordan was also militaristic and respectful and I thought that almost none of these things were present in the Green Lantern movie. However I did not watch the whole thing because I left the theater. I think a reboot is necessary because 1 the suit was horrible, 2 Ryan Reynolds wasn’t the best choice, 3 Sinestro wasn’t the main enemy.
John Stewart as Green Lanterns Go, is not even the second best Lantern.
Hal Jordan The Best
Alan Scott The Original
Guy Gardner He is a Bad ass
Kyle Rayner Technically, the most powerful. If you think about his profession.
And then John Stewart Is Good, but his training as a Marine makes him more unpredictable
As long as RR makes a Deadpool movie in my lifetime, I don’t care if he does another Green Lantern movie.
rr was good as green lantern just that main villain was kinda lame
Critiques suck, because Green Lantern was a good movie. I thought it had a good story and great digital bling. I also liked the actors involved. I wish they would continue with Reynolds. But I also liked the latest version of the Hulk and it was considered a failure also. Sometimes comic book nerds are impossible to make happy.For my Third strike I actually like X-men 3 better than X-men 1.
Good news man, you only have two strikes
(Most people actually considered the latest version of the Hulk a rousing success)
I think he meant The Incredible Hulk movie.
If that’s the case, then he must be on of the 8 people who hasn’t heard of The Avengers yet
I agree that people seem to be too harsh on comic book movies. I loved X-Men 3 and Incredible Hulk, and I have a whole article in defense of the Green Lantern movie. As an obsessed Green Lantern fan, I thought it was great. Not “Dark Knight” great, but still a great jumping off point. When I read everybody hating on it after I saw it, I was perplexed at the amount of hate…
Yes! I’m surprised people hate x3 so much. Good action, story and acting. Dramatic as hell when prof x died too. Killing off main characters are usually a no go, but since it was the last of the trilogy, I thought it just raised the stakes.
What WB should do is a team-up movie with Flash and Green Lantern.
If they do a Green Lantern 2 they have to stick with Hal, if they go straight to john stewart or anyone else there not much back story!
I think under the circumstances, Reynolds did a pretty good job, and if given a second chance, could do even better.
Bringing in John Stewart would be good also, but I think DC should first take another shot with Reynols as GL (if only that Justice League movie can get any traction “().
Totally agree, it wasn’t him as an actor that ruined the film it was the story’s direction and dialogue, at the end of the day its the script that made the movie bad. Reynolds couldn’t do anything about it, he needs another shot with a stronger story. Also the outfit wasnt too bad!
He really is the exact kind of actor that comic book fans usually cry out for whenever an adaptation is being planned.
Famous, Funny, a big fan of the comic books, no stranger to comic book/niche properties, and likable to nearly everyone.
Funny is fine in general, but with Reynolds as GL, but to me he has a permanent silly grin-type quality to his face that directly undermines any attempt to make his GL dramatic. A good choice for Flash, maybe, and I thought that he was OK as Deadpool, but for GL to really work a more seriously-calibrated actor is needed.
but Ryan Reynolds was never suited for the role he is more The Flash than Green Lantern.
Agreed. Wally West all the way.
Id prefer to wait till after MOS does before i give my 2 cents in about GL’s next movie. I know WB don’t care about DC characters as much as Marvel does. If they did, they’d put more effort into Green Lantern, & gave us somthing else besides Jonah Hex & The Losers or Halle Berry’s Catwoman.
I don’t think Green Lantern 2 will ever happen – that’s no recovering from that much negativity. I would dig seeing Reynolds play Hal in a supporting role however. That has a ton of potential.
Ghost Rider, Daredevil, X-Men, Fantastic Four, Batman, and Superman all had terrible movies that people love to hate and criticize to this day. But all of them eventually got either sequels, reboots, or came close to being re-imagined by new people.
It might not warrant another $100 million budget right away, but GL is one of the five heroes DC has at its top. I think we’re seeing him again, whether in a standalone movie first or part of a team-up.
The difference is that all those movies made money. Ghost Rider, for as terrible as it was, made money. Green Lantern – which, according to some reports, actually cost $300 million or more – was a terrible financial failure the likes of which few superhero blockbusters have ever seen. The only way Warner Bros. will ever green-light another Green Lantern movie is if he absolutely steals the show in a Justice League movie, sort of like Hulk in The Avengers. Even then, though, they might just assume he works better as a team player.
I don’t think the actors will like this idea as much as us fans but the Lantern Corps are a part of the JL universe and they HAVE to be involved… but who says they have to be a LARGE role? 20 or 30 minutes total of screen time is all they need in a JL U movie. They don’t need to be main characters. But like I said, I can’t see Mr Reynolds agents and marketing team allowing him to play another Wade Wilson and only be there for 10 lines or less and then get replaced by another actor. Don’t just bring back Hal, but bring in the Corps to help fight the big baddy at the end. They do need to exist. But let them exist in their own films or just for a known caliber in the JL U.
Let it die, ryan reynolds is poison to superhero films…..actually ryan reynolds is poison to all film.