Interview: ‘Green Hornet’ Producer Evan Goldberg Thinks Fanboys Are Insane

Published 3 years ago by , Updated January 17th, 2011 at 1:49 pm,

evan goldberg Interview: Green Hornet Producer Evan Goldberg Thinks Fanboys Are Insane

Earlier this week we brought you updates from The Green Hornet executive producer and co-writer Evan Goldberg on several of his upcoming projects; including (but not limited to) Pineapple Express 2 and  Sausage Party.

Today we bring you the portion of our interview with Evan in which we discuss what he, and writing partner (and The Green Hornet star) Seth Rogen, discovered about the (sometimes) erratic temperaments of fanboys. Goldberg also reveals why one persistent IMDB commenter received multiple personal emails from both Seth and himself.

SR: There’s been a lot of attention around this movie in terms of genre fans. What have you learned about the fanboy culture and their expectations for existing properties?

EG: They’re all mentally insane. That’s what I’ve learned. They are all like completely crazy. People who’ve loved the movies that Seth and I have done for a long time viciously turned on us when they heard that we were doing this – before they knew anything about it. But I can see why they would have thought it was a bad idea, like I don’t think they are crazy for being like ‘Ah, you guys are doing The Green Hornet?’ cause’ how could they know what we were gonna do? It’s not possible. But one of the reasons that we took The Green Hornet was because it was a little malleable – because it’s not as defined as Batman or Spider-Man.

SR: Which are also becoming really malleable.

EG: Yeah I mean, Batman’s not malleable? He had nipple studs six years ago. I think it’s all pretty malleable. But the fanboy culture is extremely flippant and erratic. I’m a little disappointed, I’m a little disappointed in it.

SR: Are you? Talk to me about that.

[We form a golden circle of trust.]

EG: I just…You know I don’t go on the Internet and review things, but over the last week or two I’ve been looking at stuff, which I really never do, but I love reading bad remarks on our movies because its super funny to me. And for a long time people launched campaigns on the Internet against this movie and now, two weeks before the movie is coming out they’re like ‘Ah, looks pretty good. I’ll go see it.’

Evan had his own moment of positive fan nerdgasm when, in one of the highlights of his career, he took a meeting with Steven Spielberg and George Lucas came in and chatted for twenty minutes – which the writer describes as simply, “the most mind-blowing thing ever.” When asked if he thought of himself as a nerd, Goldberg replied that he wasn’t quite sure what that was anymore.

EG: I thought I was a nerd. Now I know I’m just a little bit of a nerd, I have nerdy tenancies, but I don’t think I’m an actual nerd. I read comic books, a lot, that’s nerdy, but I don’t sit on the Internet trashing movies I’m gonna see anyways…for hours…I don’t think I’m a huge nerd.

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SR: Why do you think there was such a strong reaction to this project?

EG: I think that people didn’t want us to make a mockery of something that they liked – but I mean, The Green Hornet is super old, there’s been no incarnations of him for forty years.

SR: Do you feel like people are sort of enhancing their sense of nostalgia?

EG: Yes, that’s it!

SR: So you have experienced some of this? (She said with a slight flavor of irony).

EG: Yeah the whole Green Hornet! People are like ‘How dare you?’ and I’d like to sit down with any of them and say ‘So, what was your favorite episode of the show? Oh wait! You weren’t alive then and you have no clue about The Green Hornet.’ I can’t tell you how many of these angry fanboys are like ‘How dare you ruin such a great comic?’ It wasn’t regarded as a comic, at any juncture, there have been comics of it but The Green Hornet isn’t known as a comic. People are like ‘You’re ruining one of my favorite comic book characters!’ It’s a radio show! It was a radio show. It drives me crazy, I just don’t get it. I figure it’s people with…anger issues. Because when I go online and I see a movie that doesn’t look very good, I think ‘That doesn’t look very good,’ and then I go back to my life. It must just be anger issues.

SR: I think that’s just the Internet in general, and by proxy, the world — or is it the reverse? Who can tell anymore. I’ve personally been told to go to hell, die, and eat sh**t. In that order, which I thought was sort of interesting, by someone who apparently equated my slight criticism of a television show to microwaving their girlfriend. In any case, back to our regularly scheduled – What was the most extreme reaction, and why do you think that reaction was had?

EG: Oh, I can tell you who.

SR: Tell me who!

EG: SRB-3 on IMDB. That guy lives to trash Seth and he’s overdone it so much that now, there’s threads on what an idiot he is. Oh it’s great, if you want to get a laugh, check out SRB-3 on IMDB, who Seth and I have personally emailed to be like ‘Trash us all you want, the movies are gonna keep coming, you can’t stop us.’ He keeps saying that ‘Rogen miscast himself,’ he keeps saying that Seth cast himself in this movie? Failing to comprehend that we got hired by a producer who could have not put Seth in the movie. He keeps saying things like ‘I don’t know why Rogen cast such and such a person.’ It’s not like Seth is on a throne telling everyone what to do. Watching that guy’s comments is funny.

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SR: I feel like on the next movie you guys should build dual-sided thrones.

EG: I would love to write a movie just making fun of that one guy.

SR: I feel like you should (potentially therapeutic for everyone).

EG: He’s the fanboy I really want to mess with. I wonder if him hearing this will make him happy, or just crush him.

SR: We’re gonna get this on IMDB, so we’re gonna find out.

The Green Hornet is in theaters now, and is doing fairly well so far, bringing in an estimated $34 million this weekend.

[SIDENOTE: Keep an eye out for one more interview with Evan on how he and Seth approached adapting the Green Hornet character, and story, for a modern audience.]

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  1. I consider myself at least part geek given my high school daze and movie tastes. But the modern movie geek has the thinnest skin imaginable. Just try to critique a movie like Scott Pilgrim – you’ll be roasted in the harshest terms possible.

    • this movie sucked. wrong stars for a wrong movie. and i also was tired of all the cgi shoved down my throat and all the references throughout scott pilgrim. and cena is soooooo over used in todays movies. im a geek, but i had to state this for the record. now, bring the hate.

      • I concur.

      • I agree, John Cena is definitely overused in movies these days.

  2. Is Evan Goldberg the new Jamie Kennedy in terms of having no sense of humor about himself and what he does for a living?

    If you are doing something creative for a living and making money doing it, why should your feelings be hurt if people comment about the quality of your product? As an artist, you should say either the criticisms are valid or they are not valid.

    Artists, no matter the medium, put their work out their to be noticed. Would he rather have no one comment on his work? If no one comments, they are probably not buying it either. That should be more frightening to an artist, to get no reaction from an audience.

    He also seems like he needs to read the definition of Geek. One might say he and Seth are the poster boys for Geekdom, just from the contents of their work.

  3. Sounds like he’s surprised his film sucked and people have lots of free time to post their opinions.

    (Here’s mine)
    ^
    In Hollywood, just because your making movies, doesn’t mean your talented.

  4. I love that Evan mentioned my arch-nemesis. This is one of the great moments of my life, however sad that is.

    Hilarious, hilarious, stuff.

    I suggest everyone take Srb’s quiz. It’s truly an event.

    Sidenote: The Green Hornet was as awesome as I knew it would be. Actually, it was even better than I expected.

  5. i think mr. goldberg is very misguided when he comes to dismissing “nerds” as a bunch of idiots. he seems to want to lump everyone together and seems to dismiss everyone who dislikes his vision of the green hornet as being stupid and have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about. i guess that is far easier to just dismiss legitimate critcism then it is to address why people might think that seth rogen is inappropriate as the green hornet/britt reid. perhaps some of us green hornet fans and likely others who enjoy the masked crimefighter genre are tired of films where the hero is degraded into nothing more than a brainless clown as rogen is doing in the current green hornet film. it would have been nice if mr. rogen had decided to stretch his own acting abilities instead of again being a comedic frat boy slacker.

  6. EG: SRB-3 on IMDB. That guy lives to trash Seth and he’s overdone it so much that now, there’s threads on what an idiot he is. ”

    Yes.

    “Oh it’s great, if you want to get a laugh, check out SRB-3 on IMDB, who Seth and I have personally emailed to be like ‘Trash us all you want, the movies are gonna keep coming, you can’t stop us.’ ”

    That is a lie. The only that can happen is through imdb and I have not received private emails from anyone identifying themselves as either Seth Rogen or Evan Goldberg. The below is what I have received

    IMDB_Is_A_Trolls_Surfboard Please tell me, I’m dying to know???

    MrWhite_69 You suck you freak

    partick5020 on Sun Jan 16 2011 09:05:05
    Reply
    God i swear you are the most annoying person on the Green Hornet message board. If you have nothing good to say about the film then don’t write anything. I *beep* hate people like you.

    “He keeps saying that ‘Rogen miscast himself,’ he keeps saying that Seth cast himself in this movie?
    Failing to comprehend that we got hired by a producer who could have not put Seth in the movie.”

    Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg are the Executive Producers. Evan Goldberg states that they were ‘hired by a producer who could have not put Seth in the movie” first of all he fails to state who that producer was, second of all that statement makes little sense as Seth is the star of the movie.

    “He keeps saying things like ‘I don’t know why Rogen cast such and such a person.’”

    Not so. The only casting I object to is Seth Rogen himself. I have stated my reasons repeatedly. I have said repeatedly I like the supporting cast.

    “It’s not like Seth is on a throne telling everyone what to do.”

    Oh? Seth Rogen was the Executive Producer of this. Does Evan Goldberg really expect me or anyone else to believe that it’s a co-incidence that Seth Rogen co-wrote the script and stars in this?

    “EG: I would love to write a movie just making fun of that one guy.

    SR: I feel like you should (potentially therapeutic for everyone).”

    Bad move. Sounds like grounds for a lawsuit to me.

    “Watching that guy’s comments is funny.”

    Oh?

    “EG: He’s the fanboy I really want to mess with. I wonder if him hearing this will make him happy, or just crush him.”

    Neither.

    “The Green Hornet is in theaters now, and is doing fairly well so far, bringing in an estimated $34 million this weekend.”

    Yes but Evan Goldberg fails to mention that the budget was at least $130 million as per USA Today. Therefore it is already under performing.

    • Bahahahahahaha! Dude, just stop. You’re embarrassing yourself

    • Hey,

      In another post with the portion of my interview with Evan that deals with The Green Hornet itself he explained:

      “Literally on this very spot, where we are sitting, we had our Pineapple Express base camp and Neal H. Moritz (The Green Hornet producer) and his cohort Ori Marmur came down, and Ori is like a comic-book kind of nerdy guy who works with Neil, and he was like ‘ah Sh**t, Ori these guys together would be good, and The Green Hornet’s the perfect project.’ So they brought it to us, and they pitched it to us, and we were into it.”

      He and Seth were hired to write the film, and Seth was hired to play the leading role. They have executive producer credits because they helped to creatively develop the film, and that is likely part of what their agents negotiated for them in the deal.

      It does not mean that they have unlimited authority in terms of the creative decisions that were made. In a film of this size, there are a lot of people involved in making the decisions and ultimately the people spending the money are responsible.

      Sometimes things like that aren’t so clear, especially when some of the figures involved are far more publicly known, like Seth and Evan — but many people are involved in the filmmaking process.

      For example — directors do not create the trailers for their films — something people often misunderstand.

      ““The Green Hornet is in theaters now, and is doing fairly well so far, bringing in an estimated $34 million this weekend.”

      Yes but Evan Goldberg fails to mention that the budget was at least $130 million as per USA Today. Therefore it is already under performing.”

      I wrote this, Evan did not say this.

      As far as the film “under-performing” because it cost $130 million to make — no one expects a film to recoup its budget the opening weekend…

      I honestly am just trying to clarify here — not make you wrong. The entertainment industry is large, complex and has a lot of moving parts — things are not so simple.

      Passion is fine, but, things are a little more complicated than what is sometimes perceived, and at the end of the day — it’s just a movie. Alfred Hitchcock used to say that.

      Thanks,

      Roth

      • I enjoyed this interview, Roth. Admittedly, I was ‘against’ the movie because it looked ridiculous (by my own standards) and not because I revere it with any sort of nostalgia. The most I know about The Green Hornet are still black & white photos that I’ve seen in magazines. I’ve never watched an episode of the show, never read a comic, etc.

        I’m not familiar with Evan Goldberg and, in this context, I can’t tell if he’s being serious or sarcastic. Just the same, he raises some true points. There is a natural tendency for people to approach things negatively (especially on the internet). As anyone who creates for a living or a hobby can attest, it’s easier for people to be critical than creative. It’s also one of the downfalls of the internet, that we all have a platform we haven’t earned and, likely, don’t deserve. It’s up to us to make the most of it, to decide how we’re going to be perceived.

  7. the green hornet was a great movie, i agree with evan goldberg

  8. It’s an effing MOVIE. It’s entertainment. If you don’t like it, shutup and move on with your life. I personally like this site for info on movies and tv shows, not reviews. I hate reading reviews because they’re opinions. Movies are works of art, therefore they can be hated by some and loved by others. I know a few movies that I love that most critics would laugh at me for loving. SRB-3 needs to get over himself. I’m glad Evan can joke about it and relish in his success, he deserves it. It was a great two hours spent on my part and worth the 6 dollars for admission.

  9. ….but what about the Fan-MEN!!???

    • Hahahaha!

  10. Neil, Ori, sorry to hear about the GH thing. You HAD my script.
    Oh well…call me.

    Alan

    La Mesa

  11. “EG: I think that people didn’t want us to make a mockery of something that they liked – but I mean, The Green Hornet is super old, there’s been no incarnations of him for forty years.”

    He answered his on question here. I didn’t realize there was some statute of limitations on good taste.

  12. I recommend that Evan Goldberg be banned from writing films that us crazy fan boys will be heavily scrutinizing.

    I highly recommend that he write his own original material and state that it is not for us fan boys and see how far he gets?

    What a jack ass!

    • Yep. If GH had not seen the light of day for 40 years, he could have EASILY written a script that paralleled the GH concept but altered as this version was. He would have then been able to BYPASS all of us ‘fanboys’.

      No one would have been the wiser and at worst he could have claimed the GH as inspiration for his ORIGINAL idea. Seems like he was just too lazy to go through just that one extra step so it’s his own damn fault.

      You don’t pay homage to an old hero like the GH by turning the main character into an insufferable buffoon.

  13. GREEN HORNET WAS HORRIBLE. DO NOT SEE IT. I’m glad a friend at the movie theater let me in for free to gaze at the abomination of once was a cool tv show.

  14. I can understand his dislike for certaiun ignorant parts of the internet.

    Still doesn’t mean his movie was any good. It wasn’t bad. Just never good.

  15. Roth,

    “He and Seth were hired to write the film, and Seth was hired to play the leading role. They have executive producer credits because they helped to creatively develop the film, and that is likely part of what their agents negotiated for them in the deal.”

    Was anyone else hired to write the movie? No. Was anyone else even considered to write the movie? No.

    “It does not mean that they have unlimited authority in terms of the creative decisions that were made. In a film of this size, there are a lot of people involved in making the decisions and ultimately the people spending the money are responsible. ”

    Such as? Both Sony and GHI gave Seth Rogen free rein. GHI which was very hands on in the past, was not at all this time.

    “Sometimes things like that aren’t so clear, especially when some of the figures involved are far more publicly known, like Seth and Evan — but many people are involved in the filmmaking process.

    Yes but there is someone ultimately responsible. Sony and GHI as companies signed off on this.

    “For example — directors do not create the trailers for their films — something people often misunderstand.”

    My issues with the trailer is the content.

    “I wrote this, Evan did not say this.”

    OK.

    “As far as the film “under-performing” because it cost $130 million to make — no one expects a film to recoup its budget the opening weekend…”

    Actually we now know the budget was $120 as per boxofficemojo.com . Yes no one expects a film to recoup its budget the opening weekend, true. The expectation is at least half of the budget. $40 million is one third. Therefore it needs to make the same business every weekend from now on. Possible but not likely.

    “I honestly am just trying to clarify here — not make you wrong. The entertainment industry is large, complex and has a lot of moving parts — things are not so simple.”

    Clarification is good. Things do need to be clarified. That is why I am here responding to your post. Please see my previous post where I correct the lies Evan Goldberg has said about me.

    “Passion is fine, but, things are a little more complicated than what is sometimes perceived, and at the end of the day — it’s just a movie. Alfred Hitchcock used to say that.”

    Yes things are complicated. However this is not just a movie. It is a new version of a established character that is unique to all other previous versions. It is in fact a parody of those posing as a adaptation. I find that offensive.

    One more thing, just so we are really clear on this. I am not saying this to be mean to you, I am saying this for the sake of clarity.

    “EG: I would love to write a movie just making fun of that one guy.

    SR: I feel like you should (potentially therapeutic for everyone).”

    I find this exchange very unprofessional on both Evan Goldberg’s part and yours. Neither you or he have the rights to do a movie on me, or anyone else on a imdb message board or any other message board. You wish to make a movie on someone, please make one on yourselves. I hope we are very clear on this.

    Now that is longer than I intended but clarity is important and as you say the issues are complicated. I hope I have clarified them for you.

    Regards,

    srb-3.

    • Hahahaha, wow. You should probably stop this, you aren’t doing yourself any favors. It’s like watching a child throw a hissy fit at the mall.

  16. I like how Evan goes after his “fanboys” by saying they overreacted to them doing the GH movie. Then he bashes GH fanboys for the same. My favorite part is how he said he never goes on the internet to read things but he knew exactly who srb-3 is and all the stuff he has said.
    Also, Pineapple Express was SO overrated. I like a good stoner movie as much as the next guy but that was not good. Watch Smiley Face with Anna Faris, much much better.

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