• steven the git
    oops, forgot to say totally agree with the Star Wars freshness versus artificial gloss.

    In fact the fakeness is spot on for me. I just felt, among many things, the CGI in the prequels was too clean and shiney. When we had real Yoda and troopers and such, they were there, interacting, solid and grimey. The CGI just slide through it all. Almost ethereal for me. No good.
  • steven the git
    I watched a movie called Ghost Voyage the other night, that one would have enabled me to sue the chef! No taste, no substance, and a waste of my time to consume.
    Last night I saw the the Crow: Whispered Prayer, a new version with the guy who played John Connor in T2, and David Boreanz (Angel) as a psychopath. Sometimes it was ok, but often just tasted weird as flavours clashed. Not well put together and some parts were a bit stale.

    Hey, this is fun!
  • Stephen
    Ahhh,

    It's good to be part of the gang... ;p

    :)

    I guess we can all be food critics now... just imagine some of the movies IF THEY REALLY WERE a meal you had to eat.

    Hmmm, I think I'd be fat and stupid right now with all the movies I've watched... but that's not what I really meant... Cause in that universe no one would get fat watching movies. But, I can imagine some pretty horrible dishes, even dogs would turn their backs on... and I pretty much ate em all...

    ;)
  • 790
    Your one of us now!!!!

    Ya know it was kinda loosely established that Chewee new Yoda based on the premise that Obi Wan knew Chewee in the Cantina bar (TNH).
    The worst part of (PM) was that troll looker yoda puppet. Wow wow they blew that one.
  • LOL, I'm loving these food analogies. :-)

    Stephen, you pretty much said what I was thinking, pretty much right on the money.

    Vic
  • Stephen
    I'd like to add my twist to this whole comparison between Star Wars and food.

    Like you say : The thing I think is missing from this statement is the fact that different ingredients were used for the....

    Well, here's the thing that would sum it up nicely.

    Star Wars Episode 4,5 and 6 were produces with the best and most organic raw materials possible. Freshly grown ideas, a healthy amount of inspiration and innovation. All very organic and healthy... Right? That's why they were so easily digestible for the general public.

    Now come the new and improved repackaging of Star Wars. This time it's Episode 1,2 and 3! Jam packed with a lethal dose of MSG (artificial food enhancer) and tons of tons of aspartame (fake sugar) to leave you with serious holes in your mind. The amount of regurgitated dialogue with too much eye candy (artificial colors were used in this meal). Then the eye candy became bitter and pointless... leaving you with a bad taste after you're done with the main course. After all, the eye candy you were just exposed to has taken it's effect. Like aspartame you enjoy a momentary rush if joy and excitement, you're even a bit hyped up at the end. But then that high subsides quite quickly, leaving you to wonder if it was even worth it.

    Ok, I've done my bid to add to the whole food comparison... :)

    NOW I AM A PART OF THE GANG!! YAY!!!
    ;p
  • steven the git
    Well Empire was directed by someone else and I think it shows. That is clearly the best of the six.

    Quite agree on the ingredients too. Compare Luke's transformation from farm kid, to wannabe Jedi, to Shaft, strutting around as he takes down Jabba and then the Empire.

    Then take Anakin's arc. Whiney kid, to whiney teenager, to whiney, um, teenager. They just don't compare.

    I do think the PM was a good little scifi flick, but the prequels just don't satisfy as part of the Star Wars universe.
    (I mean in RotS Chewie and Yoda know each other?!)
  • 790
    Well I was semi_concious when I saw those prequels and they were very entertaining.

    Star Wars was a iconic event of historic proportions.

    I say Lucas was lucky Empire and Return didn't suck compaired to "A new hope".
  • I have a few points to make on this quote:

    "The original Star Wars movies are like the greatest meal that you have ever had. You want second helpings, and you get them, it's just that they don't taste as nice second time around. You can't really complain to the chef. You got what you wanted - twice!"

    The thing I think is missing from this statement is the fact that different ingredients were used for the "same" meal. It may be packaged the same way, only with brighter colors and a flashier ad campaign, but the parts that make up the whole are COMPLETELY inferior to the original. If you weren't disappointed with the prequels, then you weren't paying attention.
  • steven the git
    "I can't see a thing in this suit."
    Good point, a squad of storm troopers could be bumping into each other as they go!
    Oh, and never forget the classic moment of head hitting door. Did they ever edit that out?

    I have a friend who, every time I mention a book, she says read it or got it. Not so up on the movies.
    Me I love both!
  • 790
    Point taken Flamestrike.

    Your correct on that.....
  • FlameStrike
    I just meant that you may have seen everything, but there's no way you could have read everything. So maybe I should have asked how it feels to not have read a particular book/series as a comparison to how I feel not having seen all the Star Wars movies.
  • 790
    I'm confused Flamestrike?
  • FlameStrike
    "Try me Flamestrike. I've seen everything."

    Then it might well seem strange to you. Maybe I should have tried reading as a comparison.
  • 790
    Try me Flamestrike. I've seen everything.
  • FlameStrike
    "Well you saved a lot of money on Action figures and magazines and CCG cards."

    Not really. Transformers collecting has probably more than made up for it.

    "It must be strange to not have seen those films."

    Probably no stranger than you may feel not having seen some other popular/successful movie series or TV show. And I'm sure I've probably seen bits and pieces while channel flipping.
  • 790
    Funny line in Star Wars
    "I can't see a thing in this suit". Luke Skywalker.
  • steven the git
    What I'd love is for a group of people to buy the suits, wear them and just walk around in them. Love to see 20 storm troopers walking down the street or entering a library!
  • 790
    Wow ... Well you saved a lot of money on Action figures and magazines and CCG cards.

    It must be strange to not have seen those films.
  • FlameStrike
    "FlameStrike witch Star Wars did you hate the least?"

    As far as I recall, I only ever saw the original movie from the 70's. I didn't like it, and I never bothered with the other 5. If I did see the other two of the original trilogy, I don't remember them.
  • Niall
    It would be way cool to have a stormtrooper costume. But 1,800 quid is a bit too much!

    Niall
  • 790
    FlameStrike witch Star Wars did you hate the least? Just curious???
  • FlameStrike
    "Everyone is willing to say that they love Star Wars"

    No, I'm not, because in my case, it's not true. I don't like Star Wars, and I never have.

    That said, I have to side with Lucas on this one. Star Wars is his property, his trademark, and any possible copyrights on the designs undoubtedly lie with whoever hired the designer to make the armor. I can't fault Lucas for doing the same thing I would do if someone tried profiting off of one of my creations without my permission.

    I wish him success in this lawsuit.
  • BTW, how cool would it be to have a storm trooper costume? :)
  • Lucas has every right to sue. Even though he hired the designer the rights still belong to Lucas. This is like a Producer selling a film for his own gain and cutting out everyone else involved.
  • steven the git
    I don't know who is in the right as both are suing each other, however this is Ainsworth's side:

    Mr Ainsworth has a two-pronged defence; firstly, that the intellectual property rights to the designs have expired. Secondly, if they do still exist, as the designer he owns them rather than Mr Lucas, which would mean he deserves a cut of the merchandising market.

    And a quote from Lucas Licensing:

    We would never want to discourage fans from showcasing their enthusiasm for the movies. However, anyone who tries to profit from using our copyrights and trademarks without authorization becomes an infringer and we will go after them.

    I took both bits from the Telegraph over here in the UK.
    I still don't know who is right, but I know this much. Some time back someone put a game up online for star wars fans. I know someone who loved it. Then Lucas' Legions came over and shut it down. NO money was being made, just a fun thing for fans. So I don't believe their statement.
    However I would understand not wanting someone else using your property. So I guess the courts over here will have to say who it belongs to, and I doubt very much a ruling in the US will affect it.

    I'd also say Ainsworth isn't exploiting anyone as he's selling to grown adults, with money, who can make their own choices (unless he's bringing out a mini range for kids, which would be so cute!).
    Lucas, however, has redone his movies and sold them to the public again and again.
    I don't hate the bloke and still love the star wars universe (although it's nothing that original - mystical samurai, etc). But I have more reasons to dislike his actions than cheer him on.
    If he is in the right, that's that.
    But in truth I hope he isn't.

    Oh, and totally agree with Stephen about the prequels, especially on the character arcs. They have their moments, but overall unfulfilling.
  • 790
    If anyone wants to send me a Stormtrooper uniform that I can wear to the Star Trek convention this weekend. Let me know....!

    I'm here....at Screen Rant.

    Ill do it I wear that Stormtrooper uniform and have pictures taken with fans.
    Swear!
  • 790
    This guy would look like JarJar in a legal compatition with Lucas.

    Shheet. They could film that court room slaugter and put it on widescreen dvd and I would buy it for 9.99 !

    Again not seeing that contact info ?? Let's get moving people.
  • 790
    The picture up top looks like that Trooper is ready to defend Lucas. (Nice product placement).

    Unfortunitly for this prop guy he's stealing.
    I can see selling a few but to actually create a market source for these is stealing.

    That being said does anyone have his contact info.
    (I'm in kinda a hurry)...!
  • Gary
    Lucas is totally within his rights.
    I never bought into the Lucas hate that is out there.
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