‘Game of Thrones’: Will Lady Stoneheart Appear in Season 5?

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[SPOILERS AHEAD for the A Song of Ice and Fire books and Game of Thrones Seasons 1-4.]


The last three episodes in the fourth season of HBO’s Game of Thrones managed to depict multiple brutal battles, many major character deaths, and more than a few revelations. However, the season 4 finale, “The Children” - read our review - failed to unveil a book character that many fans have been anticipating since season 3: Lady Stoneheart. The character makes her first appearance in the epilogue of A Storm of Swords, the book on which most of season 3 and 4 were based, and plays a bigger role in the fourth novel, A Feast For Crows.

For non-book readers, Lady Stoneheart is the reanimated corpse of Catelyn Stark. After the Red Wedding, Catelyn’s body is recovered by the Brotherhood Without Banners and their leader, Beric Dondarrion, gives his life for hers. In A Feast For Crows, she leads the Brotherhood on a mission to exact vengeance for the suffering of her family.

During an interview about 24, EW asked Michelle Fairley, who portrayed Catelyn on Game of Thrones, about the likelihood of Lady Stoneheart joining the other magical creatures — such as dragons, whitewalkers, the children, etc. — in season 5. Fairley reiterated one major criticism of the Lady Stoneheart plotline within the A Song of Ice and Fire novels: it’s not imperative to the overarching narrative (not yet, anyway).

Read the full exchange:

EW: There was a lot of online conversation. I heard third-hand that you were basically told that it’s not likely to ever happen. Is that accurate?

Fairley: Yeah, the character’s dead. She’s dead.

EW: Do you have a preference at all — do you think Catelyn’s arc should end where it ended, or would you be into the resurrection idea?

Fairley: You respect the writers’ decision. I knew the arc, and that was it. They can’t stick to the books 100 percent. It’s impossible — they only have 10 hours per season. They have got to keep it dramatic and exciting, and extraneous stuff along the way gets lost in order to maintain the quality of the brilliant show.

As explained on the Screen Rant Underground podcast, it was unlikely Fairley would return as Lady Stoneheart in the season 4 finale for monetary reasons. Now, these new comments from the actress don’t give much hope for her return in season 5 – unless, of course, Fairley is better at the “game” than her character, Catelyn, was.

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Additionally, after “The Children” aired – to HBO’s best ratings since The SopranosEW interviewed the episode’s director, Alex Graves, who said Lady Stoneheart was never planned to be included in the fourth season.

Read Graves’ full quote:

They [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss] have such a challenge adapting the books into a really focused television experience. It’s very hard, it’s very complicated, it’s much harder than they’ve been given credit for, I think — and they do a brilliant job. But to bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while — and just kill people? It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we’re really going to like? It just didn’t end up being a part of what was going to happen this season. And finally one [more] reason: In case you didn’t notice, a lot happens this season … To add that in is something they opted out of. But what’s funny is that it was never going to be in the season, yet it took off on the Internet like it was going to happen.

The idea of Lady Stoneheart on Game of Thrones is appealing – who wouldn’t want to see a vengeful zombie wreak havoc (and justice) on Westeros? Lady Stoneheart’s revenge storyline sounds exceptionally exciting on paper, but so far in A Song of Ice and Fire it hasn’t proved to be an important part of the story and more or less acts as a branch moving farther away from the central themes rather than intersecting.

Whether or not Lady Stoneheart’s plot will pay off over the course of the books, however, remains to be seen when the final two, The Winds of Winter and A Dream of Spring, are released. But, in terms of Game of Thrones, both Graves and Fairley make sound points that Lady Stoneheart may not be able to fit into the show in terms of time and story structure.

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As Benioff and Weiss mentioned while talking about the fourth season finale, the tenth episode is usually “clean-up” but “The Children” had just as many, if not more, revelations than the preceding episode, “The Watchers on the Wall”. Running an extra 15-20 minutes longer than a typical Game of Thrones episode, it’s clear that “The Children” had enough going on without the addition of Lady Stoneheart.

Still, Graves said the showrunners didn’t give him a definitive answer as to whether or not Lady Stoneheart would appear in season 5. Though Fairley’s perspective on the status of her character seems set in stone (pun intended), it’s possible the Benioff and Weiss are keeping Lady Stoneheart under wraps for now.


Game of Thrones will return for season 5 in 2015 on HBO.

Source: EW

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  1. They will add lady stoneheart. The overall plot be damned. She has too much influence over the story. She kills off characters and without her they would have to find other ways of doing so that fans would most likely flip tables over considering those methods would replace an entire awesome character. No. No sane writer would cut out lady stoneheart. That would be insanely unintelligent.

  2. She was a major character, and Cateyln coming back to life as that… thing, was my favourite part of the books. It’s intense, creepy, unexpected, and totally badass. They can’t leave her out of the series, it has to be some kind of joke.

    • Catlyn and Aria personify the rage and urge for justice the male Starks could not achieve for their house. I think another male Stark will be brought back ala Stoneheart too in book 6 and book readers know of whom I speak…maybe they will work together against the Others…

      • Actually I think the intention is for Brienne and Stoneheart/Catelyn to (re)join forces and lead The Brotherhood Without Banners.
        Working together those two could cause a lot of grief for a number of characters in the Riverlands area.
        Jaime will probably be the first.

  3. Game of Thrones Season 5 sneak peek leaves alot to the imigination : http://youtu.be/CjnlVwYwFD4

  4. “Lady Stoneheart’s revenge storyline sounds exceptionally exciting on paper, but so far in A Song of Ice and Fire it hasn’t proved to be an important part of the story”

    Not important? Very obvious you have not read the books

    • I don’t know, I’ve read the entire series a dozen times. On my 3rd read thru of The World of Ice and Fire: The Official History of Westeros book. Read the Dance of the Dragons short story a half dozen times so far. Read the Dunk and Egg story the same half dozen times easily.

      So far, the cringe worthy “Zombie Cat” storyline adds nothing to the story that a simple rewrite wouldn’t easily remove. Why not add a headless Ned storyline and they could go all in on the comedy angle, a Westeros version of the Munsters. Zombie Cat cheapens the impact of the Red Wedding and that is frankly a tragedy.

      Hopefully we’ll have Lord Bloodraven reveal that the entire Zombie Cat segment was a bizarre dream sequence that never happened.

      • You’ve read the entire series a dozen times? s**t son, that’s impressive considering there’s at least two books that haven’t been released yet. I always thought there would end up being a reason Martin included her in the story, but I guess you know better, huh?

        • I think someone needs to work on their reading comprehension skills…..unless you care to Copy/Paste where I said ANYTHING about reading the books that have yet to be released????

          Feel free to work on that, I’ll wait.

          Although, since your reading skills are more than a little challenged, it doesn’t suprise me that you’d think that merely because Martin wrote about something instantly makes it important.

          Yes, because as we all know, the endless description of “Character A” or “Character B”‘s dinner on a given night that Martin hammers us with again….and again….and again….and again…..are also so amazingly important. Gosh, when I think of the nuanced exposition behind describing the fat a certain meal is made of, I think how can the Uber ridiculous Zombie Cat NOT be important????

          Thanks for illustrating absurdity so well for the class. Couldn’t have done it any better myself.

          • That’s such a weak argument. Random character A B and C or what type of food a character is eating are hardly the same thing as a major viewpoint character being brought back to life.

            and by the way: “I’ve read the entire series a dozen times” I usually interpret to mean “I’ve read the entire series a dozen times” since, you know:

            with no part left out; whole.
            “my plans are to travel the entire world”
            synonyms: whole, complete, total, full; undivided
            “I devoted my entire life to him”

            but idk. English isn’t my first language so I could be wrong =)

            • Dante, don’t bother trying to argue or talk sense with this dude. if you go back through the thread you’ll see he’s a massive troll who doesn’t care about having an actual dialog and will just keep shouting the same thing over and over again until his word is the last. I just want to stop receiving email notifications for this six month old thread.

              • Yeah, because when someone takes a position you don’t agree with, they are a “troll”. So to review, as soon as they have the audacity to take a position that you don’t agree with, well they are a problem. If they post additional reasons they have different opinions? Golly, that’s just them “shouting”.

                Thanks for so succinctly illustrating why the Zombie Cat acolytes can’t really be taken seriously.

                • You are a troll. A troll repeats himself and doesn’t know when to stop. They’re right about that fact and you are embarrassing yourself. You have not read all the books so who are you to judge people’s opinions on a character’s significance. Have you read winds of winter and dreams of spring? I think not. It would take a body swap with GMartin to know how irrelevant or important she is. The show must go on and lady stoneheart might still show herself. You know nothing that we already don’t know. So stop it.

                  • No, a “Troll” just posts things on threads trying to provoke a reaction. What is “embarrassing” is that you miss the detail that I’m merely responding to comments directed at me (Comments like YOURS). What folks like Rabbit3 can attest to is that I’m more than happy to discuss story arcs and plot lines coupled with easy to find facts. For the children that want to stomp their feet and demand Zombie Cat NOW…..I offer nothing but sarcasm and levity (because it really isn’t worthy of an investment beyond that point).

                    Folks who are into facts would probably like facts like the writers of HBO’s “Game of Thrones” D.B. Weiss and David Benioff already know how this story ends. How? From GRRM’s own lips. Hence, they know where and how to invest their limited funds to construct the best television show ever made. So they know not to spend said funds on Michelle Fairley’s sizable salary coupled with the SFX costs and the precious limited time of only 10 episodes to merely show Zombie Cat killing her way around the Riverlands while offering ZILCH to how the story was always going to end, just as much as Quentyn Martell did…

                    But what was that about what “we” don’t already know?

              • So to review, when someone posts something that you disagree with, they are a “Troll”. When they have the audacity to flesh out exactly why they don’t agree with you, well that makes them really “Massive Trolls”. Better still, when they can respond while working in a little sarcasm illustrating the other person’s silliness, well that means they’re….”shouting the same thing over and over again”….

                Couldn’t have succintly illustrate the Zombie Cat fans silliness anymore than that.

            • This is hilarious!!! “A weak argument”? This from the guy who thinks Zombie Cat is a foundational character to the ASOIAF world? The same guy who wants to pretend that when someone is speaking in the present tense, that he really means he’s speaking from…..a future perspective???

              Wait, is this your clumsy attempt at illustrating your own profound absurdity by being even more absurd?

              Perhaps books that don’t exist yet can be…..read….on your planet? What other amazing thinkgs happen on your world? Gravity only works every other day? Down is up? Up is down?

              Listen, I get it, your argument is so flaccid that you’ve got to make common sense non existent. Although it’s obvious that your envy towards others who have spent more time reading and analyzing the story that you pretend to understand motivates a large portion of your statement.

              Just an FYI: When one says “I have spent my entire life being vigilant” that only covers said individuals life up to that moment. One actually can’t say that apply present and past tense to future events. Strange that your oh so finely honed grasp of causality and grammatical tense have allowed that basic concept to elude your comprehension. Or not…

              See what I did there?

              • No, he did not see it, they ignore yu. Is hilarious to read hiw you keep kn the ranting.

                • Stating facts/free exchange of ideas isn’t “Ranting” where I come from. As anyone with a pulse can see, towards the bottom of this very page both Rabbit3 and I are having a conversation about the story to come. It isn’t “Ranting” when two adults communicate. Although admittedly one would have to be an adult to know this. I suppose that is slightly hilarious. After all these years, children still make me giggle.

            • Dude your use of definition proves that you are wrong and the other guy is right. It proves that you just don’t understand the simple things you are reading.
              To travel the entire world is not possible the way you use the word entire, yet still it is the example used. If you tried to travet the entire world you would have made it if you visited every country or maybe even just every continent. But according to you, you would always fail because you will not have the chance to get in to my house or someone elses house.
              Entire in the sence of the definition you found, and in the sence it was used by the other gut here, means of what is availible. Like if you eat an entire cake you suddently didn’t because there are some crumbs left on your plate.
              You are missing the entire point, even of what you write down your self, and that is exactly what the other guy pointed out.

  5. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0265610/

    She’s baaaaaaaack

    • Why she’s back? This is still written 2013 :(
      But that’s the same way I check for actors to know if they will come back hehe

      • There is something peculiar going on.
        A couple of sites like IMdB, an HBO info site and wiki have been edited to suggest that Michaelle Fairly is going to appear in episode 10.
        Then the information has been removed shortly afterwards.
        A hoax? Or some creative hype from HBO`s PR dept.

  6. I think that resurrecting dead characters is generally a bad idea. Especially if it happens on more than 1 occasion. It’s one thing to assume a character is wrongly dead (take for example Brand and Rickon), but even that is a well you don’t want to drink from too often.

    Having said that, I have accidentally seen some spoilers on line, and it seems like this is exactly what will happen. Here’s to hoping it’s done properly…if that’s possible.

  7. Why devote so much time to the Brotherhood if they were never planning to introduce Lady Stoneheart?

    • Well, there was the whole detail about getting Gendry to Melisandre along with Arya’s continued anger at the events unfolding that ultimately lead her to end up in the Hound’s hands. So other than those two key parts of the story, I guess there was no reason to show the Brotherhood…

      • Except that The Brotherhood is a Westrosi cult of Rh`llor thats not under Mellisandre`s control.
        Add in Catelyn, Brienne of Tarth and Gendry to the mix and you have a group that could cause problems for Stannis later.

        • Yet Stannis’s focus is the North(along with solidifying his place with the North men), manning the Wall and the Others, how does that cross paths with the Brotherhood? Especially when Benerro (who played a cool part in the G.O.T. PS3 game a couple years ago btw), the High Priest of R’hhlor’s girl Daenerys becomes more and more known to exist to the rest of the world. Honestly, once it becomes commonly known that the dragons exist (hence why the Red Priests like Melisandre and Thoros’s powers are now so stronger), Stannis is going to be in for a rude awakening. I think the Queen’s Men will flip the script either then or even before that when Melisandre works her magic with Jon Snow. Honestly, I can see him being the tip of the spear for the Three Targareyans, as their General in the North (IF he has the honor to defer to those with greater claim to the throne than he has…..like Rhaegar’s sons…..but I digress..) when battle begins…

          • It depends on on what happens once Stannis takes Winterfell and destroys the Boltons.
            With the Northern Lords behind him the most obvious move is to go south and deal with the Freys.
            Once the whole much awaited “Downfall of The Freys” story ends thats when he`ll meet the Brotherhood.

            • So Stannis, the guy whose tactics helped destroy the Greyjoy Rebellion….will knowingly turn his back on the ACTUAL enemy he has to fight…..aka the Others? The Freys aren’t his primary enemy. In fact, it wouldn’t take more than a well trained Arya to deal with the Freys. Stannis knows his greatest battle is against the enemy in the North. Don’t see the tactical advantage of journeying south of Moat Cailin and forgetting that fact. Particularly when he is trying to solidify his strength in the North so he doesn’t HAVE to worry about what is at his back once he moves against the Others from the Wall.

  8. “She does not speak,” said the big man in a yellow cloak. “You g****** bastards,
    too deep you cut up her neck. But she remembers. “He turned to a dead woman and said:” What
    say, my lady? Did he have a hand in it? ”
    Eyes Lady Catelyn have not abandoned him. She nodded.
    Merrett Frey opened his mouth to beg, but his noose choked river. His legs
    leave the ground, the rope cuts deep into the soft flesh under his chin. It flies high
    in the air, thrashing and writhing, increasingly, more and more.

    • A Faceless Man trained Arya could easily dispatch each and every Frey in Westeros with minimal effort and it would be far more compelling than the absurd Zombie Cat cheapening the impact of the Red Wedding.

      Michelle Fairley’s acting talent wouldn’t need to be wasted on that hot mess. Any old actress in a mask would do. Heck, any skinny old actor in a mask would do.

      • Catelyn Stark’s resurrection doesn’t cheapen the red wedding at all. Robb, his love, and his direwolf are still dead. Not to mention the unborn child that would have been named Eddard. Will you ever stand corrected or will just keep pushing zombie cat’s unimportance. Just because she was a bit of a distraction when first introduced does not mean she is irrelevant. Character development takes time and Daenerys is the perfect example of that. She may not have two or three dragons but she is undead. Imagine how Arya or Bran would look or feel upon learnin their mother is a walking dead. That’s television. Stop pushing it. It’s inevitable

        • Of course Zombie Cat’s resurrection cheapens the Red Wedding. It goes from a shocking moment where central characters are murdered to one where they’ll kinda sorta murdered except when one is resurrected to roam the Riverlands killing people. So that last image of Cat having her throat cut bothered you? No big deal, we’ll drag the character out of the water and have her lead her band of merry men while saying……….absolutely nothing at all.

          Do I smell an Emmy for that performance????

          Hell, let’s bring back Zombie Ned, he can do a Headless Horseman bit where he carries his head under his arm as he galavants across the countryside. To really make it memorable, the head and body could be shown disagreeing on which direction to go, maybe the body could toss the head in a ditch when things really get heated between them. Oh the fun that would be!!!!

          Why stop there? Why not a Zombie Baby Ned? Sadly one of his undeveloped arms were cut off during the whole gut stabbing of his mother. HIS band of merry men would make up for this by attaching a dagger to his shoulder. He could then crawl into tents of random Freys and stab them with his dagger arm before drinking their brains for sustenance via a straw he creates from pine tar and a hollowed out reed. Oh the vengeance he could bring to the story (not to mention pure entertainment as he gets tripped up by his rotting umbilical cord catching on random vegetation). Imagine how Jon Snow would feel when he learns that his “brothers” son is crawling about the weeds of the Riverlands!!! Can you say “High Drama”???? THAT is television. LoL

          Strangely those pesky guys who write this show and actually know how things turn out in the end don’t have the same opinion of Zombie Cat. They know that outside of killing, her story is pointless. This of course is evidenced by what one of the directors of the show, Alex Graves stated on the subject:

          “What’s funny is that it was never going to be in the season, yet it took off on the Internet like it was going to happen,

          “To bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while — and just kill people? It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we’re really going to like? It just didn’t end up being a part of what was going to happen this season.”

          Yeah, Zombie Cat doing nothing but killing people……what was that I said about “High Drama”???

          So is this where YOU stand corrected or will you keep pushing this ridiculous zombie fantasy involving a character that is not coming back.

          “Stop pushing it. It’s inevitable” Indeed.

          • I barely even read what you wrote. I skimmed it. Because I was testing you. Seriously dude get a life I came upon this article because season 5 is coming and look what I found on the comment section? You. Posting paragraphs and all that stuff. You maybe you’re not a troll but you have way too much free time. Is it annoying you? Why don’t you publish a book about it. And just because lady stoneheart is boring and pointless in the published books does not mean they can’t make her notorious in the show. They could get creative with a character with a like that. Make her more. . .interesting. The fact that she was Catelyn Stark is enough potential for a resurrection. It was enough for the author AND the producers. Not you obviously. Lady Stonheart will arrive as sure as winter is coming. And she will, in this season or the next. And yes, it is inevitable you piece of– Bye my dear you can have the last word if you want you’d love that since you’re not temperamental enough to just shut it.

            • When people are afraid of the truth, the default meme they trot out is the “I barely read your post” blather.

              Of course, it’s fascinating that someone so dedicated to a character that adds Zip, Zero, Nada, Zilch to the story mentions that Lady Stoneheart was…..”enough” for the Producers.

              For the Class, could you offer ONE link that states that ANYONE involved with Game of Thrones on HBO is going to bring that laugh fest to the television show? I’d LOVE to read that. Of course, anyone with a pulse knows that there is NO Lady Stoneheart on the show, nor will there be. But please, let’s see you “evidence”.

              Note: When one can post around 110 wpm, “time” involved in posting a couple of short paragraphs takes a mere couple of minutes. But you keep thinking that illustrating the absurdity that is a meaningless character is time consuming. I’ll be it will take you a lot longer finding a SINGLE reference to Zombie Cat making her absurd appearance on HBO.

              Winter WILL come and be gone before that happens. Fortunately, as that sad character doesn’t show up, I’ll come back and reread your posts that will enable my laughter to keep me warm.

              THAT is inevitable you silly child. It’s a shame you won’t be around for my amusement simultaneously. On the brightside, at least I won’t be able to laugh at my favorite show for jumping the shark with Zombie Cat-orama.

              One shivers (see what I did there?) to think of what G.O.T. Sans Zombie Cat will cause you to do. Or not.

              • Well to be more specific I read your comments on other people then checked if you’ll actually jus keep lingering around. I gave you my advice and I barely even read what wrote minutes ago just first-like-mid-last part that’s what skimming through bs is. Probably the same crap you’ve been saying to the others so yes did skimmed it because like I said you’re pushing it to infinity. Lastly, the TRUTH is you don’t know anything as much as anyone else because you’re not involved with or associated. You’re word is not gospel and TIME will see who’s right or not. And I’m not talking about TIME magazine. In the mean time how about you shut it because I will. I have my eye on you but not my brain cells to comment again. GET A LIFE for you’re own benefit. A life without paragraph machine insanity.

                • It always fascinates me that in the 21st Centruy, posting 1.5-2 minutes randomly somehow equates an investment of time. I’ve spent 5 times as much time laughing at your numbskullery versus the time spent illustrating the absurdity of Zombie Cat.

                  So is that a…….”No” on a posting a single, solitary piece of evidence that ANY “Producer” thought Zombie Cat was worthy of wasting 5 seconds of screen time on??????

                  You see, in the “Real World”, some of us base our opinions on “Facts”. “Facts” like EVERYONE involved with this show have stated repeatedly that there will be NO Zombie Cat on screen. One wonders what planet exists where after clearly saying that it would be an INSULT to an actress’s talent to have her play such an empty suit of a character…..to then have said actress play said empty suit of a character….seems like a “Good” idea.

                  So when the FACTS continue to show that there will be NO Zombie Cat, I’ll return to this page and warm myself giggling uncontrollably at such sad devotion to a meaningless character that will see as much screen time as Headless Ned, the comical Horseman and Zombie Baby Ned the dagger arm.

                  Watching that unfold on screen while reading your posts will give me more amusement than you can imagine.

                  Perhaps you could help me out and post your theories on how Zombie Cat is a shoe in for Season 6 after she never shows up in Season 5 (since Michelle Fairley is —already— known to NOT have been involved with the production of Season 5)?? The laughs I get from those posts will help tide me over until the excuses you come up with for Season 6 being similiarly Zombie Cat free.

                  One wonders what you will do without Zombie Cat insanity.

                  • Oh, this is fun I couldn’t resist. You were actually demanding evidence when I was messing with you? I skimmed it remember? How was I supposed to know you want evidence? And paragraphs again? You are adorable. I just decided that you don’t deserve the having last word. Do you really want to play this game? Or will you just shut it instead of pushing it as predicted. A troll for a troll. Get a life smarten up and shut up because I can play stubborn.

                    • Of COURSE you “Skimmed” it (Wink Wink!!!), that argument is as vacuous as Zombie Cat’s role in the story and as NON EXISTENT as Zombie Cat’s role in the HBO series.

                      For the clown who has stated several times now that he was “Done” you sure have a funny way of following thru with your absurdity.

                      Actually, do YOU want to play this game? To quote from one of my favorite books, until the sun sets in the East and rises in the West, until the oceans dry up and the mountains blow away like leaves, I’ll be here demonstrating just how empty your argument is.

                      So, the guy who types 110 wpm with IPAD in hand can and will play out this little game as long as you like. I’ll be trotting you around like my prized chimp before this is over with. You can take it to the bank.

                      So yes, let’s play “stubborn” Herr Clown.

                  • Ooh someone’s in denial. If someone’s writing in paragraphs wouldn’t you just read the first and ignore the rest? Especially when you’ve already read his previous comments and it’s saying the exact same point over and over? I love feeding trolls they’re so cute Nd not wise enough to just…shut it. Hmm maybe I should smarten up. You my friend should sit on an iron throne made out of…dild0s. Is it too late for a truce after saying that? I’ll make one anyway. I’ll shut up because it’s not REALLY that fun if you think about it and take it seriously. You can have the last word. If lady Stoneheart does not appear by the end of season 5 I will go back here and apologize and say youre right. I’m a man of my word. If she does appear then you post public apology to everyone you trolled. Or not you’re too prideful for that. I’ll shut up anyway because I AM smarter than that. I am your smartass pain in the ass and I’m pooping myself out its gross. That’s my ultimatum.

                    • And that’s me. See you after season 5 finale me humbled for being wrong or you humiliated beyond belief. I’d say it’s 50/50 chance. I’m not a sore loser after all. Lady Stoneheart will still appear in the show 100%. It’s inevitable, to infinity.

                    • What you seem to not understand is that it is EXTREMELY fun to illustrate the patent absurdity that people like YOU demonstrate. You have assigned a mythical significance to a throw away character who the people that unlike YOU actually know how this story ends point out does NOTHING but kill people.

                      Just an FYI: That was why the director pointed out how insulting it would be to ask an actress who is as good as Michelle Fairley is to come back to a show she is no longer working with to do nothing more than be an instrument of death.

                      We both know that after Season 5 is over and there has been Zip, Zero, Nada, Zilch appearances of the silly Lady Stoneheart, you will be MIA on this little thread. It is amazing that, with the wonders that are Internet Search Engines, that people like you don’t realize that each and every actor and actress that was involved with the production of Season 5 is named online. Michelle Fairley is listed in exactly ZERO of those lists.

                      But that being said, tell us MORE about how “Smart” you are.

          • This just in. Zombies/undead are an integral part of the ASOIAF story.
            White walkers/Wights/Beric Dondarrion.
            The Red Wedding would have been cheapened if it turned out to be someone’s nightmare, or if clones were killed at the RW
            LS a metaphor of revenge being served ‘Cold’

            • This Just In: White Walkers are NOT “Zombies”. Of course, anyone who has read these books knows this. The Red Wedding’s significance to the story is indeed cheapened by a character that does nothing but galavant across the Riverlands and kill people. Zombie Cat is yet another of example of GRRM cluttering up the story. Like an Engineer designing a car, always looking to add just “one” more feature to the car, blowing past deadlines because he doesn’t know when to say “when”. That’s why the books aren’t even close to being done. All the threads he has spun require resolution, resolution that at this point is no where in sight.

              In kinda works in the books because of how it is tied into Arya’s wolf dreams. For television it never, ever would have worked because of the cost of paying Michelle Fairley’s salary while she plays a third tier character PLUS the cost of SFX to make Zombie Cat look convincing.

              Zombie Cat is as important to the story as Quentyn Martell was. The Writers who know how this story ends know this, hence they cut both. It’s as simple as that.

              • I know the White walkers are not zombies, but intelligent sentient beings that we’re going to learn more about in TWOW. I was merely pointing out (not thoroughly enough) that the white walkers are creating an undead army that that is scaring the s**** out of the wildlings and causing all the chaos at the wall, and in that way zombies are significant.
                I think lS is going to do more than just gallivant around the Riverlands and murder people as the story progresses. It might be as much about closure as it is revenge, like finding out her remaining children are all still alive. And the fact that she’s resurrected by a disciple of R’hllor and how that ties into the Stannis/Melisadre plot, and considering that Stannis is sympathetic towards Catelyn because of Eddard being the reason he knows anything about his claim to the throne, it makes the LS character potentially very significant.
                It seems like all anti LS people leave out one key word; “yet”
                I probably in the minority but I always liked the Catelyn character and I guess that’s why I’m pro UnCat.

  9. She’s coming. It’s only a matter of which episode
    D&D aren’t idiots, they’re not going to pass up the opportunity for that amazing scene.
    I highly doubt GRRM created her for just to be an insignificant throw away character. That would be ridiculous.
    Maybe the people who seem to know that LS is unimportant to the story could let the rest of us know where they managed to get their hands on copies of TWOW and ADOS.

    LS doesn’t cheapen the red wedding, she accentuates it if you bother to consider that it was ultimately orchestrated by the Red God and also consider the whole Stannis/Mellisandre angle.

    If you hate the LS character I highly suggest you don’t read any future ASOIAF books because she’s going to be in them. Or at least TWOW

    • If you could point out where Michelle Fairley’s name is involved at any point, any where with Game of Thrones Season 5, I would LOVE to see it. I’d suggest starting with her IMDB page.

      Since the writers of this show know how the whole thing ends (from GRRM himself), they know what is and isn’t important to the resolution of the story, they know where to spend their limited funds and where they can trim the fat and skip it. Hence Lady Stoneheart is as non existent in Season 5 as Quentyn Martell.

      Maybe the people who think Zombie Cat is so important to a story of which they know nothing about the ending of, could contact David Benioff and D.B. Weiss…..the guys who DO know how the story ends and tell them they don’t know what they are doing???

      Golly, it was just yesterday that I finished my fourth read thru of The World of Ice and Fire and I realized that the absence of the Zombie Cat didn’t cheapen the story told in those pages at all. Reading the Targareyan family’s story, I didn’t find myself wishing for a silly zombie Rhaenys and a band of merry men killing their way across Dorne due to the Dornish putting a spear in Meraxes’s eye.