‘Game of Thrones’ Author Talks 8 Books Rumor; Not Sure 7 Seasons Will Be Enough

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Barring the occasional changes that are made to the storyline, fans of George R.R. Martin’s “A Song of Ice and Fire” fantasy book series can generally enjoy a certain amount of forewarning when it comes to the major shocking events in Game of Thrones, like last week’s brutal showdown between Oberyn Martell and Gregor Clegane. With the show swiftly catching up to the books, however, it seems inevitable that eventually Game of Thrones will overtake “A Song of Ice and Fire”; HBO has produced four seasons in four years, and it can take Martin up to five years to finish each book.

Martin’s editor, Anne Groell, stirred up some interesting talk this week after answering some fan questions regarding the future of the book series. Groell explained that she had originally pushed Martin to write seven books so that they would have “Seven Books for Seven Kingdoms,” but after realizing that technically there are eight kingdoms in Westeros she decided that, “maybe eight books for Seven Kingdoms would be okay.”

For the moment it’s probably best to just concentrate on getting the sixth book in the franchise on shelves before the show catches up, but Martin has addressed the recent talk of extending “A Song of Ice and Fire” into eight books in an interview with Entertainment Weekly. The author says that his plans for series haven’t changed yet, but that doesn’t mean that they won’t change in the future.

“My plan is to finish in seven. But my original plan was to finish in three. I write the stories and they grow. I deal with certain things and sometimes I find myself not at the end of a story. My plan right now is still seven. But first I have to finish Book Six. Get back to me when I’m half-way through Book Seven and then maybe I’ll tell you something more meaningful.”

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Martin said in an earlier EW interview that the Game of Thrones producers are already aware of the major plot points that he has planned out for the series, “which the fans are very worried about in case I get hit by a truck.” The TV show has so far broadly adhered to the events of the book, but Martin warns that collectively the smaller changes that have been made could end up making a big difference.

“By and large we are seeing more differences from the books and I’ve been predicting that from the beginning. There’s a certain snowball effect of making changes and I think that will continue…

“I like many of the new scenes they’ve inserted along the way, though I miss the things they leave out. Obviously I put those scenes in the books for a reason, I felt they added to the story. As I’ve been saying for years, I wish they had more hours — every time I see another HBO show I wonder why we only have 10 and they have 13. But we’ve done some major stuff this year. The Purple Wedding and Tyrion’s trial — with incredible performances by Peter Dinklage and Sibel Kekilli. And the trial by combat was amazing, too. I’m really looking forward to next week as I’m told we have a battle that dwarfs the Battle of the Blackwater.”

The viewing public seems to agree with Martin’s assessment of Game of Thrones, as THR reports that the show is now catching up to The Walking Dead with 18 million gross weekly viewers (including first-runs, encores, HBO GO and On-Demand views) and 7.2 million of those tuning in every Sunday. With only 10 episodes each season and a great deal of political intrigue and personal tragedy to get through, however, Martin feels that Game of Thrones may end up needing more than the currently planned seven seasons: “I don’t think it will be enough to tell the story we’re telling in the books.

Game of Thrones feels like the kind of show that could potentially continue on indefinitely, but it’s also fun to anticipate how the show (and books) might eventually conclude. Hopefully the last sentence of the last book will be, “And they all lived happily ever after.”


Game of Thrones continues next Sunday with ‘The Watchers on the Wall’ @9pm on HBO.

Source: Entertainment Weekly

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  1. A Song of Fire and Ice Book 8…arriving in 2032. Of course this is just an ETA, pending whether Martin decides to stop doing tours and such, and actually get to writing.

    • Don’t blame the tours. He was putting off writing long before the show.

      • Seriously, the guy needs to just focus up and finish the series – for those of us who have read the books (i.e. invested hours and hours given each book is 1,000 pgs+) we are dying to know how it all will end!

        Please George, just get it across the finish line for us!

        • You’ve invested hours and hours to read the books, so he owes you now? Is that it? The man has spent 23 years of his life giving you this story. Be grateful and have some respect.

    • Still not as bad as one of my other favorite series of books though.
      The War Against the Chtorr by David Gerrold
      A planned 7 book series
      Book 1 – A Matter for Men – 1983
      Book 2 – A Day for Damnation – 1985
      Book 3 – A Rage for Revenge – 1989
      Book 4 – A Season for Slaughter – 1993
      Book 5 – A Method for Madness – TBD
      Over 20 years since the last one came out, and he is still alive and is still supposedly “working on it”.
      This is a great story too. I recommend it to anyone who likes reading science fiction.

  2. 7 books for 7 Kingdoms would have been a nice notion if each book would deal with each one respectively. Let him write as much as he wants.

    On a different note, why DOES this show only get 10 episodes each season?

    • I have often wondered that as well. There is so much material to cover that they could definitely extend that out to twice as long and still not include everything from the books. I can see the first, and even maybe the second, season(s) being shorter, but when they are now as popular as they are and have the ratings they do, you would think they would extend it longer so that they could put more material from the books in there.

    • Budget.


  3. All I can really think about the ending is everybody’s dead with one winner standing on a pile of bodies and ashes. Hooray! You’ve just won the Game of Thrones! What will you do now? (Except there’s no one doing the interviewing).

    • “When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die; there is no middle ground.”
      Cersei Lannister

  4. I dont think there is a game of thrones fan alive who resents the fact that each season is only 10 episodes. I can only presume production costs are the primary culprit. Too bad too, because tons of good source material gets skipped, as George reiterates here.

  5. 7 Seasons not enough? I don’t see a problem here. /squee

  6. “For the moment it’s probably best to just concentrate on getting the sixth book in the franchise on shelves before the show catches up…”

    Whaaaaat? No way! I love all this talk about extra seasons and feature length movie trilogies to wrap up a story that’s not even written yet.

    “Don’t worry, kids. The pizza is coming. I promise. I already ordered it. By the way, what do you want on your pizza?”

  7. Oh great. South Park was right. Three great books, and two tedious books which hardly enhance the plots. I really hope the show steers away from A Feast for Crows and Dance with Dragons. The show is too good to be let down by dismal works by a lazier writer who seems to care more about money than satisfying his fans.

    • Yea, thats it. They’re going to completely steer away from 2 major additions to the source material…

      Just because those two books run parallel to one another doesn’t make them bad for adaptation. It actually makes them better, for the fact that it will all be covered in order on screen, rather than concurrently as it is in the books.

      • Plus the last sentence doesn’t sit right with me.

        “Lazy writer more interested in money than satisfying his fans” or someone who genuinely wants to write the best he can, despite being pushed by everyone around him to hurry up and finish the books and who will likely find something to complain about anyway and wish he’d spent more time writing them than “rushing to release a blatant cash-grab rather than take his time to create a masterpiece”?

  8. Don’t be suprised if season 5 (not likely, but who knows) and seasons after that have more episodes.

    • Budget. Not going to happen.


      • The sheer amount of money they are making means ‘budget’ is sort of relative.

  9. Remember, Martin toiled in obscurity for decades as a tv writer. He is LOVING his stardom and takes great pleasure in going to every awards show he gets invited to. The guy never turns down interviews. I don’t think he has any interest in ever finishing the series as it would end the press for him after the series wraps. I like his work, but doubt I’ll ever see the end of the book series.

  10. Maybe 8 books instead of 7, I’d be happy if get book 6 anytime soon, dont want to sound petty but I dont think I’d ever have started the thrones books if I knew at time there would be a tv show, the books are great but it takes so long between releases that its just disheartening to hear more blah blah from Martin, I started the series years ago and I’ve no doubt I’ll be a good (more) few years older by time these are even finished never mind on shelves

  11. As has already been mentioned…the budget is obviously the reason why each season is just ten episodes in length. But as someone that has NOT read the books, I may be off-base here…but…
    Why can’t HBO simply break the next book (A Feast For Crows) into two seasons like they did this time (with, A Storm Of Swords)? This would certainly alleviate any pressure that Martin might be under, and allow the story to continue to unfold. I understand that the actors are continuing to get older (which is obviously, already noticable with many of the young actors), but this problem is simply unavoidable. Quite frankly, the “aging” actors will be an issue even if the series ended in four years.

    • You are off base, Paul928. Not your fault since you haven’t read the books, but book 4 is incredibly tedious. It doesn’t even have a single scene with Tyrion or whitewalkers in it, if you can imagine that. That’s why the show has been dragging out events like Mountain vs. Viper that actually occurred in book 3 (the last really good book in the series), since book 4 didn’t have enough engaging mat’l to make even one season out of it, let alone two.

      What’s more, the show has already dipped into the more interesting events from book 4, mixing them with stuff that happened in book 3. When they’re not doing that, they’re tossing in filler like Bran’s side trip to Craster’s Keep and ten minute monologues about crushing beetles. If the show doesn’t strike out on its own next season, I predict a sharp decline in ratings. People are going to get bored. Personally, I’m not touching another book in the series until it’s finished and people say they are generally impressed with the ending. Not going to read another thousand pages of the same characters wandering around, eating acorn paste and repeating “Fear cuts deeper than swords.”

      • That is because the books (4 and 5) run concurrently. There are two different sets of characters in each, and they run parallel to one another.

  12. GRRM is one of the laziest writers there is. I don’t want to hear any crap about his tours and ‘other projects’ and similar bon mots. This guy has been writing a 7 book series for 15 years now and 6 isn’t even on the ‘Will Arrive On…” list yet. And when fans, like me, have to wait 5 and 6 years between books, we kind of lose interest. I’ve have Book 5 for a year now and still haven’t finished it.
    And when I see great writers like (my favorite) David Gemmell die 5/6th of the way through his Troy trilogy or Robert Jourdan die after book 11 of 12 in the Circle of Time series, it’s not had to see that paragon of human health drop before Cersei does.
    It’s insulting and offensive is what it is.

    • BTW, that said, I don’t care if the HBO series goes 10 seasons more if the writing remains that quality. They can wing it, for all I care, when they pass Bluto.

  13. I fear George has gone Robert Jordan on us.

  14. Benioff and Weiss agreed that the series could last 8 or 9 years, theoretically putting novel writing on hold for 10 years; as long as the writing holds up and HBO stays committed. HBO execs now have openly stated that they are not planning on ending the show in the next few years but indeed are willing to go beyond where the books are. Their statement, “We will have to figure it out with George if his book isn’t finished.” This does not bode well for those of us hoping Winds of Winter comes out in the calculated/anticipated 2017. Sure, the HBO series will suffice, but so much has to be cut out to make the 10 episodes/55 (odd) minutes of each show. In addition, HBO is taking liberty to explore alternative avenues regarding the characters….I wonder will there scarcely be any correlation between the books and series 4 years from now?