Game Of Thrones Author & Damon Lindelof Feud Over ‘Lost’ Ending

Published 3 years ago by , Updated August 13th, 2013 at 10:25 pm,

George R. R. Martin, author of the Song of Ice and Fire fantasy novels and a producer for the upcoming HBO adaptation Game of Thrones, attacked the ending of national TV phenomenon Lost in an interview with The New Yorker.

The author echoed the sentiments of many Lost fans, claiming that the finale failed to pay off on the series’ many twists and turns. Martin stated that he hopes the ending for his Song of Ice and Fire novels – and one can only assume Game of Thrones as well – doesn’t disappoint in the same manner.

Like many Americans, Martin was a faithful viewer of Lost right up until its conclusion in 2010. He said he felt “cheated” by the ending, and dreads the prospect of his own series ending in the same fashion.

“And then I felt so cheated when we got to the conclusion… I want to give them something terrific. What if I f*** it up at the end? What if I do a Lost? Then they’ll come after me with pitchforks and torches.”

Apparently Lost showrunner Damon Lindelof didn’t appreciate the illustration. In a series expletive-filled Twitter posts, Lindelof responded in kind, making light of everything from Martin’s famously protracted publishing timetable (ask the nearest fan for an earful) to the design of his website.

“George? You got yourself a feud, motherf*****… Winter IS coming, b****!

“I’ve just been informed George is working on his feud response. I’ll have it in FIVE YEARS!”

When Entertainment Weekly reached out to Lindelof, he confessed that he’s a big fan of the author’s work. The producer recalled fond memories of Martin’s previous science fiction/fantasy series Wild Cards. While he acknowledges some of thew negative reactions to the Lost finale, he still stands by it, comparing it to the divisive ending of The Sopranos.

 

After reading the interview, it’s clear that Lindelof doesn’t hold any real resentment for Martin. Closing out his response to Entertainment Weekly, he told the interviewer, “Good lord, don’t antagonize him! And please let him know I’m a fan.” The back-and-forth is an example of two professionals from different generations with different mediums having their say.

In more concrete news, the 15-minute preview of Game of Thrones that HBO aired Sunday night scored some interesting numbers. 720,000 people tuned in for their first look at the series. While that’s hardly a blockbusting figure, the only lead-ins were other previews. The official Game Of Thrones YouTube channel has 1.3 million views, indicating that the series will have a healthy audience tuning in for the upcoming debut.

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Game of Thrones premieres April 17th on HBO.

Source: Entertainment Weekly

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  1. George R. R. Martin sounds obsessed with plot lines
    which I as a fan of Lost might have been guilty of as well
    early on in the series but later on I thought too many threads
    were woven to ever create a smooth fabric to wrap everything up.

    Not answering the unanswerable was expected for me.
    What I did not expect was an unusually moving finale.

    The finale demonstrated that what was essential has to do
    with the human heart, with the meaning and value of life,
    forgiveness, and the capacity to transcend this world.

    The details of the island mysteries seemed unimportant and
    unnecessary in comparison to the mystery of life and death.

    Everything that was important was resolved. Lost was found.

    • Aye, but I reckon you’re biased since you’re Addicted to love?

      I’ll get me coat.

      • He spelled it differently :)

    • True! I was expecting answers, but the drama and emotions in the show were what I really, really loved. Some things were left unanswered, but the emotional sucker in me was very happy.

  2. I agree with George, the first 3 or 4 seasons of Lost were amazing. The fifth was ok. But then when we got to the final season they just kinda crazy. They kinda just abandoned the sci-fi aspects of the show. There was still some of it but they candy coated it with theology.

    All the Dharma stuff which is what made the first couple of seasons so good was missing from the second half of the series without feeling finished.

    I could go into extreme detail about Lost as a hole, but I’ll save you all from that. The last season or two felt like a cop out, it felt like they didn’t have the balls to stay true to the series and finish it in a new way instead of the overused sappy way that they did.

    The final season almost ruins the great seasons at the beginning, because you’ll know it’s all building to that terrible ending in the back if your mind.

  3. I felt like every night I watched the show, live, for the past six years, was a joke.

    I was disgusted with the ending of Lost. Disgusted. They pulled a Matrix 3.

    But hey, they didn’t have the chops to tie it up, so they went the easy way out.

    • jensketch Couldn’t of said it better myself.

  4. And what route whould you guys have taken? I am so tired of hearing how they didn’t have the “Chops” to stay true and end it the “right way” im sorry I didn’nt watch it live I bought one season at at time when all 6 came out and i can say im a huge fan! Did i love the ending? no just cuz i felt that was the obvious way to end it but i didnt hate jj and co for it. All i thought was hey this is what it is ok ill take it, i still had questions and till now i still wish there was MORE but hey if you guys could break me down on how you would have ended it im all ears.

    Lost Fan

  5. To Random Movie Fan:
    I understand your point: people often complain without offering alternatives. But is that really the job of the viewer to come up with better endings? Suppose you went to a highly-rated restaurant, one you’ve heard such great things about, and then get served a mediocre meal. It wouldn’t be appropriate for the chef to say “Hey, I don’t want to hear complaints unless you can give me better recipes.” Now, granted, you’re paying for the latter, while TV is free (aside from the cable bill), but let’s not confuse the role of the chef/entertainer with that of the patron/audience.

    What disappointed me most was that I had believed the Lost writers had a plan. The clues and details in the show were mystifying but very specific, and I was conned into believing there was a grand blueprint being referenced. By the end, it was obvious the writers had just been making things up as they went along. For me, the finale was emotionally satisfying, but intellectually a grave disappointment. :(

  6. LOST? Don’t even get me started. I didn’t even find the ending emotionally satisfying—it was overly sentimental drivel, an insult to LOST’s core thinking audience (the SF audience).

    It’s not even about answering questions, for me. It would be about avoiding the emotional sap and metaphysical cheats (for example, season 1 fans argued the 815ers were in Purgatory or equivalent. Writers said, “Yikes! How’d they guess? Let’s confuse the issue by dazzling them with spooky events and strange natives, then distracting them with hard core SF elements like time travel, until we can deliver an extremely watered down version of that premise—but it won’t be recognizable as the purgatory idea by then!. And when I say ‘watered down,’ I mean wringing wet with tears from all the dying alternating with warm fuzzies when everyone comes to understand how much none of it really signifies because they’re all where-they-are-in-the-state-they’re-in, HAHA. Sometimes we really crack ourselves up. Oops! You liked our various distractions while we pulled that bit of prestidigitation? Sorrrryyyyyy! :(

  7. “prestidigitation” is now my word of the day. Thank you :D

  8. “What if I do a Lost?”

    BWAHAHAHAHA

    Although the 5 year comment was almost just as humorous.

    There is no question I hated Lost for its ending. I think they did to much, to fast then couldnt tie it all up. Be it the studios fault, writers fault (and they had a ton of writers), etc. It was a let down.

    To ding GoT Ive seen some making of and Im not to impressed with the sword play. While it is not a big part of the story some characters in the book relied on their swordplay while others didnt.

    Hopefully its just an editing thing.

  9. anybody else worried about the picture of the author? He needs to lose weight pronto, or we might never get the final books…

  10. You guys are hilarious attacking Lost like that, clearly the ending was lost on you (pun intended) and I’m not really sure what was left unanswered? The island was a real place put there by God as a barrier against a primitive bodiless evil that would drag humanity into darkness if released. Through fate and karma people are brought to the island to serve as stewards of the island and protect it from those that would unleash the evil force. Yes thats right Lost was an epic fantasy all along and never grounded in ‘reality’ Anyone expecting a logical conclusion from an illogical reality was fooling themselves and ignoring the signs of fantasy all along (like giant smoke pillar monster) The only ‘purgatory’ world was in the final season the alternate reality where they all meet up to pass on together. Christian tells Jack when a group of people are connected like they all are it creates a world for them to meet up and move on the next life together. And the smoke monster taking over Lockes body to continue the fued with Jack but with switched philosphies (Jack finally believing in fate vs ‘Locke’ believing none of it matters) was genius. A season of this show is not like Martin taking 5 years to write a book, they are under much greater pressure and there are several people collaborating and they can’t take years to smooth things out. Martin can spend months and years mulling over plot points TV writers don’t have that luxury so perhps we should all be alittle more forgiving of some mediums and just enjoy that Network TV got fooled into putting an epic fantasy tale on the small screen!

  11. I saw the last episode yesterday night. I hadn’t seen the show until this year and it hooked me from the beginning. Yet I think the show gave the best only from series 1 to 4. From a strictly “narrative” point of view, those series were perfect: mysteries, tales of survivors, twist, psychological evolution of the characters. When, between series 3 and series 4, the flash-backs actually become flash-forwards… well, that’s just a work of genius!

    Then something changed. What I really loved about the show was the way real-like situations and enigmatic mysteries could co-exist with no defined lines in the middle. However, the story told in series 5-6 is too obviously “unbelievable” and “impossible”. For instance, I didn’t enjoy the time-travelling stuff: all these charcters lost in the 70s… come on! Now, I know that someone will tell me that, in theory, time travels are “possible”. Whether I would agree that they are in fact possible, theoretically or in principle, my point is that it is very hard to make time travels look like something plausible.

    The mythological stuff… oh dear, that was just a ridicolous non-sense!!! I wonder how a serious production can actually invest on making episodes about brother-gods fighting each other on an island, the “light” of which needs to be protected. I mean… seriously?

    The nice thing about the show was trying to find a rational explanation for the apparently absurd situation – i.e., the light from the bottom of the hatch is not a divine sign, but it’s just Desmond inside; the “others” are not monsters or ghosts, but just people who were already on the island, and so on. Instead of following this line, they prefered to do the opposite: in the last two series, whenever the writers introduced something strange and unexpalainable they also made sure it would look even stranger and unexplained later on.

    Conclusion: they couldn’t have done a better job with the finale, given how the show evolved; the problem, in fact, is not the finale but just how the show turned out to be during the last two seasons.

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