The Next X-Men Films Part One: Wolverine 2, First Class

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wolverine and x men first class The Next X Men Films Part One: Wolverine 2, First Class

The folks at Empire had a chance to speak with Lauren Shuler Donner, producer of all films X-Men related, at the press junket for the release of X-Men Origins: Wolverine on Blu-ray and they discussed the future of the franchise.

The feature that Empire put together on the interview was broken down into four sections for each of the movies: Wolverine 2, X-Men: First Class, Deadpool, and Magneto. We’ll go through and discuss each, passing to you the key things Donner says and giving our thoughts on it and how it relates to what we expected to see from these movies since their inception.

To start, here’s the latest on Wolverine 2 and X-Men: First Class

Update: Click to see Part Two on Deadpool and Magneto.

To start, they touched on the most definite film we’ll see coming our way in the next fear year: Wolverine 2.

“It’s actually the story we wanted to use for the first Wolverine film, but [Fox head honcho] Tom Rothman preferred to set the character up with an origin story first. This movie will really focus on the relationship between Wolverine and Mariko, the daughter of a Japanese crime lord, and what happens to him in Japan.”

The Chris Claremont-Frank Miller run on Wolverine which saw him on his adventures to Japan is one of the most classic Wolverine tales there is and so it’s no wonder they want to turn that story into a feature film. That being said, I can’t say I disagree with Rothman’s reasoning to want to tell Wolverine’s origin first. We saw hints of his origin scattered throughout all of the X-trilogy so it was a story that had to be told. Although I’d argue that X-Men Origins: Wolverine didn’t do a great job of that, it made sense to do that before seeing Wolverine head to Japan, something not touched on at all in the X-Trilogy. The alternative would have been to do the Japan story first as a prequel to X-Men, followed by another prequel based before it? Nah, that doesn’t work as well.

I wasn’t impressed by either of the last two X-Men movies but I still hold hope that the franchise can turn it around and it looks like they’re going in the right direction with Wolverine’s next adventure. With the hiring of Oscar-winner Chris McQuarrie to write the script, with Donner’s and Jackman’s desire to have this film closely follow the source material, and with the studio seemingly holding back until (hopefully) selecting the right director, I can’t deny that I’m excited to see Wolverine in Japan, especially with what Donner says next:

“We want to make it authentic so I think it’s very likely we’ll be shooting in Japan. Also, by the way, we are looking to have the Japanese Fox executives involved in helping and counselling us, because it’s a different culture and we don’t want to portray the way they speak, dress and act in an inaccurate way. I think it’s likely the characters will speak English rather than Japanese with subtitles.”

Remember when this was a big issue for that other film McQuarrie wrote, Valkyrie? Once we all saw the movie and how they transitioned from Tom Cruise speaking German with subtitles into speaking English along with the rest of the cast, it didn’t really affect the film’s story or characters in the end. Although I admit it was weird hearing a group of German characters on screen with a half-dozen uniquely different non-German accents. I never expected to see the Wolverine sequel mostly spoken in Japanese with subtitles so this is of no surprise and shouldn’t alarm any fans.

Another thing we can expect from Wolverine 2 is Hugh Jackman fighting a lot less with his claws (after the horrible CGI of X-Men Origins: Wolverine, this is a bonus):

“What’s cool about this part of the saga is that Wolverine will be fighting in a different style to what we’ve seen before… There’ll be samurai, ninja, katana blades, different forms of martial arts – mano-a-mano, extreme fighting. We’re going to come up with a new style of fighting. It’s going to be awesome.”

As you can tell, Donner is sure excited about the potential for Wolverine’s next story so let’s hope we get a high quality movie with Wolverine 2.

Click to continue reading about Wolverine 2 and X-Men: First Class…


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X-Men: First Class

X-Men: First Class was in development with a writer hired and a story in mind nearly half a year before X-Men Origins: Wolverine even hit theaters. Fox Studios knew they could capitalize on the X-Men’s team-focused adventures in a series of prequels to capture younger audiences.

Josh Schwartz, the creator, writer and producer of the television shows The OC, Gossip Girl and Chuck was brought on board last fall to develop his first ever feature film project in writing the screenplay for X-Men: First Class. The movie as we knew it would obviously be loosely based on the X-Men: First Class comic book which Marvel debuted in 2006 as a mini-series, later continued as an ongoing series.

That book however, follows the original five X-Men (for the most part) in their teens working for Professor X as it was when the X-Men comic began back in the 60’s. The movies cannot do the same due to the continuity established in the film franchise. The original team consisted of Cyclops, Jean Grey, Beast, Iceman and Angel. The film universe has Angel introduced many years after the beginning of the X-Men and never an official part of the team. Iceman is also just a kid and not part of the team in the first two X-Men movies so wouldn’t be part of the adventures of the original students.

So, that means we can expect to see Cyclops, Jean, Beast and perhaps a young Storm (included in a deleted scene of X-Men Origins: Wolverine). As for who the other character(s) could be, that’s anyone’s guess. I assume that the end of Wolverine’s movie was very intentional and that we could see Emma Frost and perhaps Quicksilver (Magneto’s son in the comics) as part of the team. I also expect to see Magneto involved with First Class, but as a good guy, helping Xavier start the school and build Cerebro (referenced in the first X-Men). Perhaps this film’s story will act as the catalyst that separates the ideals and future paths of Professor X and his old friend.

There’s also fan speculation that Gambit could be involved with First Class since there was talk of a possible Gambit solo film. Also, Taylor Kitsch, who played him in X-Men Origins: Wolverine, has a three-picture deal. I expect that with Kitsch’ casting as the lead in the John Carter of Mars film (and possible trilogy), his profile will grow huge and he’ll back as Remy LeBeau once again down the road. According to Donner however, Gambit isn’t part of First Class because he wasn’t part of Xavier’s original student body. I’m not sure what that means because neither will one or more of the students they choose to fill Iceman’s and Angel’s roster spots in keeping with the film continuity.

They’re keeping the X-Men: First Class roster a secret for the time being. If you have guesses, share them in the comments!

So, getting back to the topic at hand, Lauren Shuler Donner touched on what style and tone we can expect from the young adventures of the X-Men:

“Harry Potter is a bit of a role model for us, absolutely. But we want it to be like the recent, darker Potters. It should not be a kiddie movie – we’re in the X-Men world so you can’t suddenly change the tone. The First Class comics are really fun – they’re funnier than any other comics I’ve read. Basically in each one the kids are fighting strange villains, sometimes it’s aliens, sometimes it’s monsters. I want to get a flavour of that world. Occasionally the kids will be in class, but more often they’ll be off on adventures. Which Professor X isn’t too happy about! There’s nothing more interesting than a bad kid, and this is full of naughty children. Cyclops, for example – he’s a tough kid that bobbed from foster home to foster home, until he ends up at the school and becomes the leader. There’s also still an element of friction between the mutants and the outside world. Remember that this will be set way back before anyone knew mutants existed.”

She continues to explain that Schwartz’ script is still in the works and not yet finished. She explains that they want to make sure they’re not rehashing what’s already been done in the movies and speaks highly of their writer of choice.

“We want to make this a franchise, following these kids at the school, so the casting of the child actors will be all-important.”

I expect that they’ve already done a bit of this with Tim Pocock and Tahyna Tozzi cast as Cyclops and Emma Frost respectively in X-Men Origins: Wolverine. There’s a reason they were chosen and there’s a reason why they were far over-marketed in the promotion of the film, let alone the Xavier’s scene at the end picking up the young mutant escapees which seemingly blends perfectly into the start of X-Men: First Class – There’s no way that it’s all for naught.

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On the subject of Pocock, he may have dropped a bomb of an update recently with the Twitter fire he started in a tweet revealing that he’s set to start filming X-Men: First Class early next year. Once news sites picked up on the info, he tweeted a retraction saying it was a prank and that it wasn’t true but that he would be interested in playing Cyclops again. Was this really a prank? Or did Fox and his agent get on him for leaking the info? We don’t know for sure (yet) but it’s interesting nonetheless.

So, that’s the latest on Wolverine 2 and X-Men: First Class, two X-Men films we’re sure to see in the next few years.

What do you think of these two projects and Fox’s plans for both? What X-Film are you most excited for and what characters should be featured?

Come back soon for Part Two of The Next X-Men Films where we talk about Deadpool, Magneto and more!

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  1. It’s hard to be excited for the next X-men movies after X3 and Wolverine Origins.

  2. what happened to the “retweet” button at the end of every post?

  3. @M-Cat

    The software behind that button crashed my server, so I’ve decided to remove it.

    You can use either the Share or Twitter buttons in the toolbar at the bottom of the page to do the same thing. :)


  4. Okay got it Vic, thanks.

  5. yeahhhh! I believe on you. I believe on everybody, the producers, writer, and Jackman, i think this will work as the others upcoming x-movies,it will be like 1 and 2, hopefully better, please don’t disappoint us

  6. Rob

    the director (Gavin Hood) isn’t coming back? Who do you think they will bring in? And why would they go away from Wolverine fighting with his hand claws? That’s what Wolverine does and you don’t stop something because the CGI was bad – you fix the CGI or get someone better. Anyone can improve on the horrible CGI we saw in Origins.

  7. lol, it’s part of the Japan story where Wolvy is learning new combat styles and fighting against new styles.

    It has nothing to do with the bad CGI, that’s just a complaint about X-Men Origins: Wolverine.

    How about Hugh Jackman with a Katana? :)

  8. Rob

    Yes, I understand it’s part of the story but I was just wondering why Wolverine would want to fight with swords and other blades (no doubt very cool) when he has adamantium claws in his arms. I’m not trying to be a pain in the you know what here I was just curious.

  9. nevermind, just overthinking it i guess. it’s something different and I love the sword fighting style so I’ll run with it.

  10. First Class is the one I’m looking forward to most, but only because X4 is only in pre-preproduction. I get why people love Wolverine and Deadpool, but I just prefer the team dynamic that you don’t really get with single character origin films.

    I’m pretty sure Donner saying that Gambit wasn’t a founding member, therefore not in First Class, is probably more of a description of the film continuity character than the comic book ones.

    Gambit in Origins was a pretty self-confident guy who already had full control over his powers, so he really doesn’t need the help that someone like Xavier could give him.

    The roster’s probably going to be Cyke, Jean, Storm, Emma, Beast, and possibly one more male character, if only to even the sides a bit.

    And I still think First Class is the movie that should show Sabretooth’s evolution from Schreiber into Mane. And I definitely want to see some more Toad and Mystique.

  11. thanks for the article josh cant wait 4 first class

  12. @M-cat

    Actually, you aren’t over-thinking anything. Sword fighting doesn’t make a whole lot of sense in a Wolverine film. Wolverine doesn’t just have claws. He has ADAMANTIUM claws! Any sword he uses, even if it is like the best steel alloy on the planet could still get CUT IN HALF by his claws. So what is the point?

    I would rather not to have the story defy the internal logic set up by the franchise just to “look cool.”

    Besides, sword fights aren’t really a threat to Logan. He heals. Here is how a sword fight with Wolverine should go: “OW! Your sword is in my abdomen!” “Now you have no head, bub.” END SCENE

  13. there was supposed to be a “SNIKT” in between those two quotes… stupid HTML

  14. Haha Evan that end scene made me laugh. “bub”

  15. Remember this?

    Rogue “Does it hurt when they come out?”

    Logan “Every time.”

    Wolvy feels guilt and shame with his claws. Logan never WANTS his claws out and regrets it everytime. The samurai way teaches logan control, discipline and meditation.

    The Samurai way is Logan’s way of managing the beast inside. This is why he seeks the training.

    As for the First Class, well… Ratner really screwed this one again.

    Beast? He’s hairy in X-2 and 3 so… They have to show him before the BEAST takes over and he’s just a hairless simian.

    Angel? Thanks to X-3, no Angel. AND how can it be a TRUE first class without Angel, the tension bewteen him and Scott over jean’s affection is essential to many early X-men stories

    Marvel Girl? Well she already had her Dark Phoenix demise, so no Jean.

    Iceman? He was a kid in all three X movies, so no Bobby.

    Cyclops? Pocock playing the kid works for the next films but his fate is sealed, thanks once again for X-3.

    So… in conclusion, First Class is NOT the actual first class. The class will be mostly second string mutants or mutants added to be the second class. (in Giant sixe X-Men #1 and Uncanny #94)

    So Thunderbird could be added, then killed as in the comics. or Banshee would be a welcome addition, his daughter Siryn was implied in X-2. Maybe Havok or Shadowcat.

    All in all… I’m sending out a GOOD LUCK to the writers who have to sort out this mess and keep the fans happy.

  16. I am afraid that a “Worveline” film would just come across as a cheap imitation of Kill Bill.

    As has been said, he has indestructible claws, and is nigh indestructible himself. Why on earth would he need to fight with a sword? Or learn how to “ultimate fight”?

    In my opinion, that comic book series was an error, in and of itself. It’s all very nice having a “Frank Miller” graphic novel of Wolverine, and I understand Mr. Miller is the flavour du jour, but do we really need to have Wolverine become a second-class rehash of “Sin City”, or “300”? Or worse yet… “The Spirit”?

  17. @pittman

    the beast within? this is the most most kiddified version of wolverine outside of the cartoons. i wish he would be violent, i wish he could have lost control. i dont remember him growling or grunting or going crazy with bloodlust, which everyone will agree is the version that needed to be let loose in this film. why learn control of the beast? when he needs to let it out so we the audience can see the consequences of messing with our hero. If there are ninjas in this movie, I want to see a death toll of thousands. (sorry everybody, i am a little frustrated with them having messed with one of my fave characters). Just give him something to do with with his claws, because i didnt have a problem with the CGI. (Michael Chiklis in a foam rubber suit as the Thing, i have a problem with that).

  18. @Allen

    The Beast was something that builded through years of Wolvy in the x-men, Prof X helping him control. I didn’t necessarily mean the beast in the films. You’re right, there’s never been a proper “Beast Wolverine”. Really cutting loose on some ninjas, reavers, or Hellfire Club Soldiers.

    It almost seems like there should be another Wolverine film bewteen Origins and the Japan story. One where he really goes off his nut. Claws a Blazing and Blood a flowin’.

  19. @The Pitt Man

    “It almost seems like there should be another Wolverine film bewteen Origins and the Japan story. One where he really goes off his nut. Claws a Blazing and Blood a flowin’.”

    We saw a little bit of that in X2 right when the dudes start opening up live ammo instead of the trank darts in the school. Towards the beginning. He totally kills that one soldier “claws a blazing and blood a flowin” and it was awesome.

    But I think it was awesome because we see his reasoning: the live ammo around all the children. One of my favorite wolverine moments. It shows that at his core, he is a GOOD GUY!

  20. Evan

    That is probably my favorite scene from all the xmen movies. It’s a toss-up between that one where Wolverine goes berserk in the kitchen or the opening scene of X2 where Nightcrawler (I think) sneaks into the White House to get the President.

  21. Or the scene in the beginning of the original X-Men when Wolverine is fighting in the bar fights and the guy comes at him afterwards and accuses him of being a mutant. The first time the blades come out was so awesome. And continue that where him and Rogue are going down the road and hit the tree and Wolverine gets up and heals and then realizes it was a setup. Love that whole beginning of the franchise.

  22. Hey all,

    Not sure if including Beast in the original mix of folks is likely to happen either though. If you look at the second Xmen movie, they have a very human Hank McCoy talking about mutant rights in a brief news clip going on in the background. It’s not until X3 (which I only grudgingly acknowledge) that Hank is decked out as Beast. In X3, Xavier goes on about how he was always a part of the school and references are made to him always being big and blue, but that messes with the continuity from the 2nd movie. … Not that X3 was really concerned about continuity, but still. I’m not sure I’d mind seeing Beast, but it’d be weird depending on what movie they spin him off from.

  23. i was hoping for Brian Singer to direct xmen 4 or Magneto, but know I want him to direct Wolverine 2, he was the only director who understood Wolverine, his version was the closest to the comics,very viril, angry,and arrogant, the Brett Ratner version was the worse as Jackman said he got too soft, and i didn’t understand why he became the leader in the third movie, he took Cyclops position, the last version from Gavin Hood,in Origins Wolverine,it got a little better,but not what we heard that this Wolverine was going to be darker and more violent thats why I hope Singer directs the Japan Saga

  24. Hi, I say that they need to make a Xmen movie that is not related to the previous Xmen movies,and that way they can have all the original characters.It would be like a comic book,like how not all comic book stories are related.I say not a remake that destroys the stories in the Xmen movies ,but one that creates a different version of it ,that is the true version created by Stan Lee ,and Marvel comics.Also they can create two franchises from the same title.

  25. look i dont know bout all u x men fans out there but i think we can all agree about one thing. Gambit is the second best (if not first best to some)x men. He’s my favorite for sure. i like him better than wolverine. i dont understand why they dont listen to the fans. Make a Gambit movie. I guarantee you would profit more by producing a x men origins gambit movie than a magneto or deadpool movie. hell i would advertise it all over the internet. im 25 and been watching and collecting anything that has to do with the x men. plz just plz make a gambit movie and soon. think about it. all his punch lines(the names gambit..remembor it) his charm. his abilities…that was so out of wack in the wolverine movie might i add. and terrible choice of character. plz take my request into deep consideration. plx anyone else agree with me i wanna hear bout it

  26. I just think they have jumbled up the xmen series between styles and writers and acting and over all it feels like a mess. I sense they are going in the right direction with this film, but I think they should re-think everything. I MEAN EVERYTHING! The older batman movies were good, but nothing like the new ones. The new Christopher Nolan movies were good stories that felt real and had amazing acting. Hugh Jackman is just not the greatest wolverine. I find it hard to take a lot of the actors serious in these movies. I also think they did a good job with X-Men First Class too. Anyways, thats just my thoughts, take it or leave it.

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