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Gary says:

Good review Vic
Fine first episode of the season.

Thanks, Gary. More of a summary, really – but it’s way late and I’m tired and I just wanted to be sure to get something up here so you guys would have a place to discuss it. :)

Vic

Jossa says:

yessssssssssssssssssss!!!!!
Fringe is Back!!!!
and btw, the XFiles references were all over the place!
Awesome!!!!!!

Paul Young says:

I told Vic earlier but I felt like Abrams could have done something more original. He did the exact samething in Alias by “killing off” a character on the show without losing the actor.

Other than that, I enjoyed it.

Martin says:

It was a pretty good starting episode. I only have one scene that I found confusing. They found the nurses body in the hallway. However, at the end, the nurses body was in the sewer. That nurse was the shape shifter and should have turned into Charlie, leaving only two Charlie bodies – the shape shifter and the real Charlie.

strich says:

I was annoyed at how easily the new agent was let into the Fringe division. Peter just waltzes her right in with a “welcome” and now she’s part of the group.

I’m also interested in finding out the relationship between Olivia’s boss and mrs terminator arm. That little smooch she gave him makes me wonder what side he’s playing on and also makes me want to find out more about her and her interests.

Anyone else consider that the Olivia that was sent back to this side wasn’t really the one that was originally here? The only thing that says she is our Olivia is that she knows Peter. If the Peter we know is actually from the other side, and he’s been here most of his life (after the original died), then she would know him. If she were from the other side, there’s a good chance she wouldn’t know him since he’s been here forever.

Sorry, got deep there for a minute.

strich says:

Oh, and i really loved the hat tip to X-Files.

ksmith says:

strich i think your idea is very fascinating. And with this show definetly very possible. I remember in one episode Peter being told by Walter about his childhood, and Walter being really upset about something happening to him. So i think youre idea is possible. But the question is, when the Olivia that we know went to see Bell in the other dimension, does that mean that there is necessarily another Olivia that was already in that dimension? Because I think it’s possible that there are just completely different people in the other dimension… or else i feel like something catasroptic would happen to someone who had two of themselves walkin around in one dimension.

Would love some feedback on that…

But I thought the episode was amazing, and could have only been better if we got to see Bell and Olivia’s discussion… which I feel like will be in next weeks episode or the next. Also I called it that Charlie was toast when I saw him standing there, but my only thought about that was that when the shape shifter killed the chick he must have planted her there before hand and then, and intended for that to be his escape route or something… or else that would have been just about impossible to do what he pulled off… but yet again that dude jumped out of a 20 story building without a scratch after bein popped twice in the back close range… nutty.

StarKiller says:

He fired the shots after he duplicated Charlie to make it seem like he didn’t have enough time.

790 says:

Paul, Abrams and original don’t belong in the same sentence. :-)

Deep out in space the clone builders on Kamino are laughing at this X-Files template. How do I know?, I have some clone friends there! Let’s just leave it at that…
:-)

Wickamo says:

Fringe was awesome as always. Very good episode. First of all, shame on you Vic…Warehouse 13 is not weak! Second, Strich, I don’t understand your confusion. Peter brought the new agent in because he needs her help. So who else in the room was going to say she couldn’t be part of the group? Walter….ummm no……Astrid……nope…..the cow….nope again. As far as is it our Olivia or the other universe Olivia…It’s our’s, both because of the obvious reason you stated about her knowing Peter and the other reason being it wouldn’t make sense for the other one to come through in her place….Why?!? Lastly how could the shape shifter taken charlies form so fast. If you go back and look at the beginning when he changed the first time. It really only took a couple of minutes. So that along with the fact that in TV shows you just have to accept that time frames from one scene to another aren’t always exacttly synced proves it’s no big thing. I think Fring is one of the best shows on TV right now and as an X-Files fan, not only did I love the wink’s at that show, I’m glad we finally have something that takes it’s place.

@Wickamo

Actually, I thought Warehouse 13 started out strong, but then started doing too much tongue in cheek, goofy acting from the the two main characters.

Vic

TV Obsessed says:

The twist with Charlie was expected though not probable due to time constraints of the device. Kirk Acevedo’s announcement of getting fired finally makes sense and he’ll probably be gone soon. I loved the X-Files episode Dreamland Part II playing in the background which foreshadowed what would happen to those who got it (I’m sure not many did).

Gary says:

Vic,
I think you meant warehouse 13 there.

donald says:

How did Walter return after being led away by the watcher?

OrangeRush2112 says:

fringe has replaced that hole that was left when xfiles went off the air. its awesome to see some of the same strands but with some different takes. as a kid i used to watch the limited night stalker tv show and was bummed when that went off the air and later was ecstatic to learn that the xfiles was heavily influenced by that same show. im just glad that these shows have such a huge interest and that collectively the writing is very good and the acting and actors are top notch.

Thanks Gary, fixed that. :)

Vic

salmoncake says:

I thought that the first part was pretty good except from the last sceen when poor “Charlie “is getting rid of “himself”. I would imagine that the FBI carries out an autopsy on the nurse’s body and finds out very quickly that there are the three little holes in her mouths. Therefore, she cannot be the shapeshifter himself, but the real nurse that the shapeshifter killed. So it is clear that Charlie is the shapeshifter.
Anyone agrees? Or am I getting a bit too complicated :)

tats says:

i think there’s a mistake at the end, cause the shapeshifter takes the shape of the person it kills, so technicacly, there shouldn’t be a body ( charlie’s) to burn.. it should be the doctor woman cause he switched places with her.. no?

He takes on the form of the person he copies but the original body is still left behind. Remember at the beginning of the episode in the apartment, the guy who lived there was still there (dead) when the Feds arrived.

Vic

its_not_that_hard says:

shapeshifter played dead when charlie shot it. remember that a minute prior the new girl shot it and it still lived. later, after everyone went back to check on olivia, shapeshifter killed charlie (who was probably in charge of disposing of the shapeshifter’s body) and took his appearance.

pretty simple.

Magnus says:

what if, like someone here said i think, that charlie didnt fire at the shapeshifter, he didnt have enough time. so the shapeshifter overpowered him, changed form, and then fired 2 shots?

but there’s really no point in wondering, it happened, so lets leave it alone:)

just 1 more thing, awesome episode!:D

Thomas_Is_Epic says:

Been waiting for this show to come back for what seems like FOREVER!! Sucks that Charlie is the bad guy now. I liked him last season.

TV Obsessed says:

The engagement of the week was one of the better ones considering all the horrible ones last season, but the highlight of the episode was Dr. Saunders. Amy Acker is so amazing and I’ll be sad to see her in only 2 more episodes. Echo and Ballard working together seems like it will work very well.

nancy says:

That last comment refers to Dollhouse not Fringe.

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