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  • Dylan
    Has anyone considered the Sabertooth problem? That being, they have the guy from scream 3 playing Sabertooth in this movie, but they already showcased S.T. in the first x-men movie. Am i wrong? This was the first thing i found troubling about this movie (granted, i haven't seen it yet). Any comments about that? Surprised it didn't make the list!
  • everythingshiny
    It's kinda sad reading this after having seen the movie. I bet you guys are wicked disappointed. What I don't get is why the accent changed. The clip of Gambit talking that was linked to from here sounded different from what Gambit sounded like in the film (Southern, but not Cajun).

    Is odd. And the whole Deadpool thing sucked, beyond the telling of it.
  • delij
    Well said division bell.
  • Divisionbell
    they have raped deadpool.
  • Ian Hutchinson
    as I said in the previous post is that it is not DP it is in fact Weapon XI who is played by Scott Adkins, so I have no worries on that issue.
  • phillip
    i believe that the markings are the outline to the graphing of the metal. it also could be an early character from the origins comic. there is hype that it is deadpool but we all know that he cant shot lazers from his eye. what it could be is cyclopes shoting him in the face so wolverine can get him from behind.
  • @jimmi

    Yeah, we covered that in another post here on the site.

    Vic
  • jimmi rehman
    I dont know if its been discovered yet, but the voice of gambit is on the movie website... its one sentence but hearing the accent and see him sends chills up my spine. This movie is going to do very very well. I am very excited. I am like a schoolboy here... This is a wonderful time we live in. I am 27 and to be able to see all my childhood marvel heros come to life on the big screen is very exciting. Cheesy or not i love all of the marvel movies, because they are apart of my childhood and now a part of my adult life that i can now share with my children. Marvel has done a wonderful thing for fans.
  • @ rhardo,

    Good point, I've not seen the gloves in the promo material so far, I wonder if they'll include that...
  • @ Dustin,

    It's not really a reboot - This movie is within Fox's X-Men "continuity", and by the time the movie comes out, we'll see a few ties to the trilogy.
  • nice info... but you might want to include Gambit's customized gloves in the list... it's one of his costume trademarks, so to say. And by way, the eyes, i'm buying it... splash in more black there, production peeps!!!
  • Dustin
    A few things guys:

    -They are looking at doing a Deadpool movie so I dont think they are going to f**ck up the character like that. I think the movie will end with the dissolution of the Weapon X team and open up the way for the deadpool movie (And i'm sure they are looking at the possibility of a Gambit movie if the response is there)

    -Even though they are using Jackman for obvious (good) reasons, the rest of this movie is a reboot. It does not need to tie into the X movies. My guess is that we will see a new X-men movie reboot at some point, they are probably keeping an eye toward that in thier casting and storyline decisions (May be the "First Class" movie, who knows)
  • Copperknob
    Weapon XI is likely a collection of mutant powers. We know that in the future Stryker has the ability to control mutants (using a serum developed from his son), so it's not unreasonable to believe that he's able to do something similar in the past. That would explain Weapon XI looking "like" Deadpool, having claws and using Cyclops's optic blast. It would also explain the like "Here's the one you're looking for" in reference to Scott Summers.
  • @ JD5DAD

    Thanks I've been listening to it a few times this morning and I'm writing something for it now.

    @ Rorschach,

    I think you may mean me :) I wrote this one.
  • Rorschach
    Vic ! some thing horrible has happen.
    i went to the site "JD5DAD" posted and there isen't enuff to tell if he has the accent or not.
    but mu problem is i was watching the Trailers in HD and i notice that what i thought B4 to be a Bio-kenetic Glow on Gambit's Staff , turns out its not,
    its what looks like a Big@$$ Emerald or dimond, its also on the back of his cards.
    you can also see it in the Group pic Like the 1 yall posted a while back.
    but the one on the site has a big Crystal on his BoStaff and Wraith photoshoped in to the picture.

    just that i'd Pass on my Findings to a fellow Gambit Fan.
  • JD5DAD
    Vic go to http://www.x-menorigins.com/us/ to hear gambits voice
  • slayerette0
    Maybe Weapon XI just hears Wade talk about the 'cool codename he likes" and steals it? Then maybe they could fight over 'whose the real Wade Wilson'?

    Yes, denial come to be, be one with me...
  • @ Darren,

    Interesting thoughts

    @ High Kalibur

    I agree, the bones and blades don't match at all - they must of replaced the bones with the blades, not grafted them.

    I don't like how they added the bone claws in the 90s. To me, it's such a better story to have Wolverine as a dude with healing powers...not as some animal who can also heal conveniently because the claw location makes no sense (under the skin).

    I like the idea that the adamantium claws were added by Weapon X in their efforts to turn him into more of a weapon.
  • Darren seeley
    Here's my thoughts:


    The 'toy/doll of Deadpool' is a mis-direction or accident. It's also going to be a collector's dream. When I saw the blades on the toy "Deadpool" and the face markings, my first thought wasn't Deadpool. It was a character called Shatterstar. In any case I'm convinced 'Weapon XI' isn't Deadpool.

    However When I saw the trailer, and weighing in what we know about Stryker through X2, then when posed with a question, 'who is Weapon XI'? I come up with two possbles:

    1- Omega Red.
    The X-Men heavy is listed among Stryker's files. The albino like skin may account for this. Having such a character would jazz up the fans. I also think the character was cut from X-Men The Last Stand in some drafts?

    2- CYBER.
    "His torso was covered in adamantium, and one hand's claws were laced with poison while the other was tipped with a hallucinogen. Cyber also had a cybernetic eye, to replace the one that was ripped out by his nemesis Wolverine. Cyber also has a healing ability, adamantium 'skin'...

    Also, there was that little rumor back in December...anyone remember it? It had to deal with the possible 'Wolverine II', where Cyber was a possibility as a baddie.

    So it could be a "pre-Cyber".
  • Ken J
    You know, all of the toys and stuff could have been intentionally put out that way to throw people off. I mean, what better way to get publicity than that?
  • High Kalibur
    @ INK

    "Marvel Comics Presents: Wolverine" a flashback of Wolverine getting the adamantium graphed to his skeleton, then waking up, breaking out of the tank and slashing people apart for almost the entire rest of the issue.

    If anyone reads the issue, it is pretty impressive the look they gave Wolverine in the film (during the experiment) and even the lab itself. It looks like it was adapted directly from the comic. That is pretty sweet work by the Art Directors/Set Designers. That's is a reason when I heard the 'rumor' about Studio Execs complaining about the sets being too dark I knew that Hood was doing it right -- that comic is extremely dark.

    The issue in which Wolverine's origin story first takes a turn toward always having bone claws was not a 'Presents' issue and came later in Wolverine's exclusive title. Magneto ripped the adamantium from his skeleton, revealing to him and the readers, for the first time, that he had claws before Weapon X.

    Sorry, I don't know specific dates, issues of the top of my head but I would be willing to bet that 'Presents' was early 90's and that Wolverine issue was '93 or later.

    Being an Old School fan myself, I wish that was a What If... issue. But, the idea is beginning to grow on me and it looks effective in the film. As far as logistics go though, the bone claws shape doesn't really fit what they look like graphed. They aren’t very blade-like when they are bone. I dunno, certain little details bother me when I think a little more effort on the filmmakers’ part could fix these kinds of things.

    Does anyone else get the impression that when they are bone and when they are metallic -- it looks like they are different distances apart from each other, different shape, width, thickness and kinda retract in a different place? I do. Just doesn't feel cohesive.

    Anyway, I say the chance that the mutant-mix-match-man is Deadpool is about 00.1 percent. Do not fear...
  • INK
    @Highcaliber

    "Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X. Good stuff."

    If I am not mistaken and I could be as it has been some time since I got my copies out, this exact series is where we first see bone claws on Wolverine. So this statement kinda takes away from your entire point.

    As far as Deadpool ... if they ARE wanting to spin-off Deadpool how stupid would it be to sew his mouth shut.

    Like others, I think that is Weapon XI and that it is a mish-mash of genes from the other characters in the movie and I think it will turn out to be Stryker sewed his mouth shut so he would quit talking due to him retaining Wade's speech and personality after creation.

    My 2 cents.
  • @ Drew,

    We know the scarred dude (at least, in the trailers) isn't played by Reynolds - there's no disputing that.

    It was speculated a while ago that Adkins was Reynolds' stunt double and that he would play the transformed Deadpool after Reynolds underwent whatever happens in the movie. That's where the controversy/confusion arises.

    However, I don't see him currently listed anywhere as a stunt double and like you, I think (and really really hope) they are separate characters - I think they have to be for it all to make sense... and especially if they plan to make a deadpool spinoff.

    I can't believe there is so much confusion of this - Fox should clear this up.
  • Drew
    You know, when you look at that picture of Wolverine and the guy with blades, you can tell its not Ryan Reynolds. If you look at pictures of Scott Adkins(Weapon XI) on the web, his trapezius muscles are as defined as the albino. If you look at pictures of Ryan Reynolds with his shirt off he looks nothing like the albino.

    Now I know that some of you are going to bring up the fact that Scott Adkins is the stunt double for Ryan, but think about this. Do you really think Ryan Reynolds is going to give up screen time when you can obviously see the albinos face during something that doesnt require a stunt double the entire time? Hell no! The albino isnt Deadpool, just a super mutant that is going to fail and thats how Wade Wilson gets his name Deadpool. From failed Weapons.
  • Drew
    Wade Wilson get his name Deadpool supposidly from a bank full of failed weapons. Maybe that thing is Weapon XI named Deadpool, and after Wolverine destroys it, Wade Wilson gets Wolverines healing power, it cures his cancer while scaring him up, and he then dawns the mask and says call me Deadpool.
  • High Kalibur
    @ Greg, I agree one hundred percent that the bone claws is a bad idea. And no, originally Wolverine did not have bone claws, writers added that in in the 90's. And it defintely does take away from the original Weapon X story.

    That is an example of my point, writers often use 'memory loss' as an excuse to get away with stuff. Supposedly, Wolverine 'forgot' that he had bone claws. And I guess x rays can't penetrate adamantium, even though in X-Men we can see the other bones. Pretty ridiculous.

    But, to be fair to Fox. Bone claws are now the back story for Wolverine so Fox is sticking with the comics on that one. I just wish they were sticking with the old school ones. Check: Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X. Good stuff.
  • High Kalibur
    Think about it...

    This is an example of why dismantling every inch of Wolverine film data is a bad idea. People are getting the wrong impressions.

    Fox wants to make a spin off for Deadpool. How in the world can there be a spin off is the charcter has been completely made up?

    If Weapon XI is who wolverine fights in the film and more than likely kills -- how could it be Deadpool?

    This is not the film, this is the trailer, we complain because they don't answer all of our questions and if they did we would complain about that.

    This movie looks awesome, any X-Men fan should be happy. I know I am. This adaption looks 1,000 times better than anything that came out of the X-Men Trilogy.

    So what? They made up a villian that Wolverine can rip apart. I can't wait to see Wolverine battle that joke. He can't kill Sabretooth or Deadpool in this movie... right? Think about it....

    It is actually smart. And if anybody with commonsense works in Fox Studios marketing department then there is no way that mix-match guy is Deadpool because that would leave any opportunity for a spinoff dead in the water.

    I mean, is the Deadpool movie going to be about "Opticblast, shirtless, purple-pants-wearing, mouth sewn shut, brain washed by Stryker but for some reason still uses swords-and-guns-while-fighting-like-a-ninja-man. C'mon, imagine the trailer, it would literally be joke. There would be no fanbase and the common movie goer would say 'WTF?'.

    The smartest move is to have Deadpool go his own way before the films ends leaving us to wonder what he is going to do.

    Gambit -- I hope he has his accent and the writers understand how he talks.

    Cyclops -- should not be in this movie. No excuse. And whoever said it is right, he cannot meet Wolverine.

    Memory loss, brainwashing is usually nothing more than a cop out for bad writing. See Spider-Man: Brand New Day --but that's another story.

    Sabretooth -- whoever says that Tyler Mane (is it?) was a great cast for Sabretooth obviuosly has no idea about the comic book Victor Creed.

    All in all, I think us X-Men fans might have to just accept that X-Men the Animated Series (90's circa) will be the best incarnation we ever see of our beloved mutant heros.

    I doubt the movie will be able to top moments like this:

    Wolverine (to Sabretooth): Alright, you eggsuckin piece of gutter trash. You always liked pushing around people smaller'n you. Well, I'M smaller! Try pushing ME!
  • Max
    Deadpool's personality and humor are what make him different from other characters. If he is mute now, screw FOX. They just screwed over one of my favorite comic book characters. This movie better end with Wolverine slicing at Deadpool's face and cutting open a new mouth and after Wolverine beats him, Deadpool comes back out of the rubble for his own spin-off where he can wear a mask and talk.
  • Sean
    @Greg, Wolverine always had bone claws, the adamantium was grafted to his bones and his bone claws and that is how he got the Metal Claws. That is the only thing they are doing right with this movie. Gambit's eyes arent even one hundred percent on. The whites of Gambits eyes should be black, not just a hint of black mixed in with the red. Also, one thing that pissed me off about the Gambit shots in the trailer is when he is "throwing" the cards. He isnt throwing them at all, he is telekinetically moving them. LOOK! Look at the trailer again, there is not throwing motion, just cards zooming over is open palm. Weird eh? I was super excited for this movie, not so much anymore. Im still going to see it, but i just wont be as pumped as I was when I saw the first trailer. And if that thing is in fact deadpool...all I have to say is....EPIC FAIL!
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