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Rob Keyes says:

@ Drew,

We know the scarred dude (at least, in the trailers) isn’t played by Reynolds – there’s no disputing that.

It was speculated a while ago that Adkins was Reynolds’ stunt double and that he would play the transformed Deadpool after Reynolds underwent whatever happens in the movie. That’s where the controversy/confusion arises.

However, I don’t see him currently listed anywhere as a stunt double and like you, I think (and really really hope) they are separate characters – I think they have to be for it all to make sense… and especially if they plan to make a deadpool spinoff.

I can’t believe there is so much confusion of this – Fox should clear this up.

INK says:

@Highcaliber

“Marvel Comics Presents: Weapon X. Good stuff.”

If I am not mistaken and I could be as it has been some time since I got my copies out, this exact series is where we first see bone claws on Wolverine. So this statement kinda takes away from your entire point.

As far as Deadpool … if they ARE wanting to spin-off Deadpool how stupid would it be to sew his mouth shut.

Like others, I think that is Weapon XI and that it is a mish-mash of genes from the other characters in the movie and I think it will turn out to be Stryker sewed his mouth shut so he would quit talking due to him retaining Wade’s speech and personality after creation.

My 2 cents.

High Kalibur says:

@ INK

“Marvel Comics Presents: Wolverine” a flashback of Wolverine getting the adamantium graphed to his skeleton, then waking up, breaking out of the tank and slashing people apart for almost the entire rest of the issue.

If anyone reads the issue, it is pretty impressive the look they gave Wolverine in the film (during the experiment) and even the lab itself. It looks like it was adapted directly from the comic. That is pretty sweet work by the Art Directors/Set Designers. That’s is a reason when I heard the ‘rumor’ about Studio Execs complaining about the sets being too dark I knew that Hood was doing it right — that comic is extremely dark.

The issue in which Wolverine’s origin story first takes a turn toward always having bone claws was not a ‘Presents’ issue and came later in Wolverine’s exclusive title. Magneto ripped the adamantium from his skeleton, revealing to him and the readers, for the first time, that he had claws before Weapon X.

Sorry, I don’t know specific dates, issues of the top of my head but I would be willing to bet that ‘Presents’ was early 90’s and that Wolverine issue was ‘93 or later.

Being an Old School fan myself, I wish that was a What If… issue. But, the idea is beginning to grow on me and it looks effective in the film. As far as logistics go though, the bone claws shape doesn’t really fit what they look like graphed. They aren’t very blade-like when they are bone. I dunno, certain little details bother me when I think a little more effort on the filmmakers’ part could fix these kinds of things.

Does anyone else get the impression that when they are bone and when they are metallic — it looks like they are different distances apart from each other, different shape, width, thickness and kinda retract in a different place? I do. Just doesn’t feel cohesive.

Anyway, I say the chance that the mutant-mix-match-man is Deadpool is about 00.1 percent. Do not fear…

Ken J says:

You know, all of the toys and stuff could have been intentionally put out that way to throw people off. I mean, what better way to get publicity than that?

Darren seeley says:

Here’s my thoughts:

The ‘toy/doll of Deadpool’ is a mis-direction or accident. It’s also going to be a collector’s dream. When I saw the blades on the toy “Deadpool” and the face markings, my first thought wasn’t Deadpool. It was a character called Shatterstar. In any case I’m convinced ‘Weapon XI’ isn’t Deadpool.

However When I saw the trailer, and weighing in what we know about Stryker through X2, then when posed with a question, ‘who is Weapon XI’? I come up with two possbles:

1- Omega Red.
The X-Men heavy is listed among Stryker’s files. The albino like skin may account for this. Having such a character would jazz up the fans. I also think the character was cut from X-Men The Last Stand in some drafts?

2- CYBER.
“His torso was covered in adamantium, and one hand’s claws were laced with poison while the other was tipped with a hallucinogen. Cyber also had a cybernetic eye, to replace the one that was ripped out by his nemesis Wolverine. Cyber also has a healing ability, adamantium ’skin’…

Also, there was that little rumor back in December…anyone remember it? It had to deal with the possible ‘Wolverine II’, where Cyber was a possibility as a baddie.

So it could be a “pre-Cyber”.

Rob Keyes says:

@ Darren,

Interesting thoughts

@ High Kalibur

I agree, the bones and blades don’t match at all – they must of replaced the bones with the blades, not grafted them.

I don’t like how they added the bone claws in the 90s. To me, it’s such a better story to have Wolverine as a dude with healing powers…not as some animal who can also heal conveniently because the claw location makes no sense (under the skin).

I like the idea that the adamantium claws were added by Weapon X in their efforts to turn him into more of a weapon.

slayerette0 says:

Maybe Weapon XI just hears Wade talk about the ‘cool codename he likes” and steals it? Then maybe they could fight over ‘whose the real Wade Wilson’?

Yes, denial come to be, be one with me…

JD5DAD says:

Vic go to http://www.x-menorigins.com/us/ to hear gambits voice

Rorschach says:

Vic ! some thing horrible has happen.
i went to the site “JD5DAD” posted and there isen’t enuff to tell if he has the accent or not.
but mu problem is i was watching the Trailers in HD and i notice that what i thought B4 to be a Bio-kenetic Glow on Gambit’s Staff , turns out its not,
its what looks like a Big@$$ Emerald or dimond, its also on the back of his cards.
you can also see it in the Group pic Like the 1 yall posted a while back.
but the one on the site has a big Crystal on his BoStaff and Wraith photoshoped in to the picture.

just that i’d Pass on my Findings to a fellow Gambit Fan.

Rob Keyes says:

@ JD5DAD

Thanks I’ve been listening to it a few times this morning and I’m writing something for it now.

@ Rorschach,

I think you may mean me :) I wrote this one.

Copperknob says:

Weapon XI is likely a collection of mutant powers. We know that in the future Stryker has the ability to control mutants (using a serum developed from his son), so it’s not unreasonable to believe that he’s able to do something similar in the past. That would explain Weapon XI looking “like” Deadpool, having claws and using Cyclops’s optic blast. It would also explain the like “Here’s the one you’re looking for” in reference to Scott Summers.

Dustin says:

A few things guys:

-They are looking at doing a Deadpool movie so I dont think they are going to f**ck up the character like that. I think the movie will end with the dissolution of the Weapon X team and open up the way for the deadpool movie (And i’m sure they are looking at the possibility of a Gambit movie if the response is there)

-Even though they are using Jackman for obvious (good) reasons, the rest of this movie is a reboot. It does not need to tie into the X movies. My guess is that we will see a new X-men movie reboot at some point, they are probably keeping an eye toward that in thier casting and storyline decisions (May be the “First Class” movie, who knows)

rhardo says:

nice info… but you might want to include Gambit’s customized gloves in the list… it’s one of his costume trademarks, so to say. And by way, the eyes, i’m buying it… splash in more black there, production peeps!!!

Rob Keyes says:

@ Dustin,

It’s not really a reboot – This movie is within Fox’s X-Men “continuity”, and by the time the movie comes out, we’ll see a few ties to the trilogy.

Rob Keyes says:

@ rhardo,

Good point, I’ve not seen the gloves in the promo material so far, I wonder if they’ll include that…

jimmi rehman says:

I dont know if its been discovered yet, but the voice of gambit is on the movie website… its one sentence but hearing the accent and see him sends chills up my spine. This movie is going to do very very well. I am very excited. I am like a schoolboy here… This is a wonderful time we live in. I am 27 and to be able to see all my childhood marvel heros come to life on the big screen is very exciting. Cheesy or not i love all of the marvel movies, because they are apart of my childhood and now a part of my adult life that i can now share with my children. Marvel has done a wonderful thing for fans.

@jimmi

Yeah, we covered that in another post here on the site.

Vic

phillip says:

i believe that the markings are the outline to the graphing of the metal. it also could be an early character from the origins comic. there is hype that it is deadpool but we all know that he cant shot lazers from his eye. what it could be is cyclopes shoting him in the face so wolverine can get him from behind.

Ian Hutchinson says:

as I said in the previous post is that it is not DP it is in fact Weapon XI who is played by Scott Adkins, so I have no worries on that issue.

Divisionbell says:

they have raped deadpool.

delij says:

Well said division bell.

everythingshiny says:

It’s kinda sad reading this after having seen the movie. I bet you guys are wicked disappointed. What I don’t get is why the accent changed. The clip of Gambit talking that was linked to from here sounded different from what Gambit sounded like in the film (Southern, but not Cajun).

Is odd. And the whole Deadpool thing sucked, beyond the telling of it.

Dylan says:

Has anyone considered the Sabertooth problem? That being, they have the guy from scream 3 playing Sabertooth in this movie, but they already showcased S.T. in the first x-men movie. Am i wrong? This was the first thing i found troubling about this movie (granted, i haven’t seen it yet). Any comments about that? Surprised it didn’t make the list!

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