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  • Devon Petty
    I thnk u choosen a great case on the f4 characters, but i thnk that lombardozzi would be the better "thing" and Kwanten would play the "human torch" better than that lewis dude(who is that by the way) but i thnk that he mite have to hit that wieght room a little harder

    P.S. great job in True Blood cant wait for season 3!
  • Justin
    You guys bring up some good points. Be sure to call in to the radio show this Saturday 12PM eastern and give your two cents.
  • KEL
    I think the Thing should be bigger and CGI this time tho.
  • KEL
    Wow, great job, Kofi! I love your cast!
  • GUNSMITH
    HONESTLLY, LOOKING AT FF AS A FAN, BEING BLUNT..SUE RICHARDS SHOULD BE A NATURAL BLONDE WITH REAL BLUE EYES...CHRIS EVANS DID A GOOD JOB,HONESTLLY HE WAS VERY AMUSING ...REED RICHARDS WAS OK BUT THEY COULD DO MORE FANTASTICAL THINGS WITH HIS ABILITIES WE HAVENT SEEN YET, THE THING, SHOULD BE CGI, EVEN THOUGH THE PRACTICAL SUIT IS AMAZING,HE JUST SEEMS MORE LARGER THAN NORMAL IN THE COMICS,YOU CAN STILL GET AN ACTORS PERFORMANCE IN A CG CHARACTER...GOLLUM PROVED THAT.THE APPEAL IS THE FAMILY SQUABBLING AND HOW THEY GET IT TOGETHER IN THE END TO SAVE THE DAY.
  • Justin
    Enough already. i want all of you to call in next week and give your two cents. Time to put this to bed for good!

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/TheChosen1/2009/09...
  • huntthejest
    I like Ron Livingston for Reed, if for nothing else, its original. Ali Larter? Not so much. Only superhero I could see her as is Ms. Marvel. Tricia Helfer would be my dream Sue Storm. Its all about the chemistry of the cast though. And, as I've seen excellent chemistry between the two, and a "fantastic" range from the latter, I'd say Tricia Helfer and Jeffrey Donovan as Sue and Reed. That would be pretty awesome. Ideally, I'd want to keep both Evans and Chiklis, but if it has to be recast, Chris Pine for the Torch, and Vincent D'Onofrio as the Thing. Think about it people. The man is a Chameleon, can be very physical, and is certainly talented enough. I don't know that he exudes the tough guy attitude that the Thing is known for, but nothing is outside of this man's range. For Doom- Karl Roden. He has the physical presence, acting range, and, most importantly lacking from Macmahon's portrayal, the Eastern European heritage that would make him excellent as the Latverian Supreme Monarch.
  • piratedan
    @ Kofi

    tyvm for the enlightenment, after reading this thread now, I feel the same way about the article as you do about the original F4 film, I feel like I'm settling for crap about some dream casting call for a comic book film that didn't trip your trigger on the first pass. What is much more likely is that this discussion is most likely apropos of nothing considering all of the Marvel and DC options that are suddenly going to be more viable in the new environment based on the most recent financial deals.

    While F4 wasn't exactly the best thing since sliced bread, and I do not believe that anyone else here is saying that, it's that comparitively, based on all of the other attempts to bring comic books to life, it was certainly less dreadful than many others. I think it's easy to see where I am coming from, after having a serious line of stinkers that were X3, Hulk, Elektra, Ghost Rider and Daredevil is that our collective expectations have been lowered somewhat. Yeah I can demand that Hollywood make better movies, but they aren't exactly returning my calls, y'know?
  • Longshanks
    Thing and The Human Torch were cast perfectly,but Reed and Sue weren't.

    Even though it would never happen,Nicole Kidman would probably be the best choice for Sue,followed by Naomi Watts.Sue needs to look like a total WASP and be non ethnic looking.If you want a little younger actress with a cheaper price tag,maybe Ali Larter will do,but then you would have to get someone that is noticeably younger looking than her to play Johnny.I'm thinking maybe someone like Sean Faris.

    As for Reed,here's an interesting choice that I just thought of,Ron Livingston.

    So here's my cast
    Reed-Ron Livingston
    Sue-Ali Larter
    Johnny-Sean Faris
    Ben-Micheal Chiklis(there really isn't anyone else that could do it better)

    I don't know,it could work,if only they wrote a GOOD script.
  • Kofi Outlaw
    For all of you who think F4 (the first film) was good:

    Go back and watch the scene on the bridge where Alba strips down and saves the day. See if you can spot the total screw up in how they cut that scene together. While you do that notice: the terrible stretching f/x; how hollow and stiff Ioan G and Jessica Alba are together onscreen; how bad Mr. Nip/Tuck was as Doom...

    ...Dude, hopefully a reboot can show you guys what the F4 are SUPPOSED to be like. You guys really do settle for some crap.

    I but the F4 films in the same box as Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, and X3. Now that I think about it, the fact that so many people who are saying F4 was OK but X3 was TERRIBLE... You baffle me.
  • piratedan
    @ Kofi

    the first film wasn't bad, it was just fine on it's own merits and yes, I thought Alba did a credible job in it. I thought the entire cast did well based on how the origin story was handled, just the proper amount of angst and action. The second film was stinky turd awful. So the same set of actors who did a credible job in the first movie suddenly can't cut the mustard? I guess that supposes some agreement that the first film was decent. I have a hard time getting excited about a "franchise" that the studio screwed the pooch on. It's not the fault of the actors if they got the wrong guy behind the camera and a set of drugged monkeys pounding the word processors. Wasn't that the same problem about The Hulk? Oh geez we screwed it up so let us try again, oops that wasn't exactly it either so one more time please?

    Speaking as a person who grew up on the comics in the 60's and 70's, I think this trend is gonna come crashing down pretty soon, there's only so many hero stories out there with evil supervillians and tortured souls who have secret abilities that you can make films about that don't all look the same after a while, y'know?
  • Bangarang
    About the Jonas Brother and Miley Cirus ?
  • 790
    Come on Justin, what's the problem you had with Alba,,, she's only reading a script written by dorks, I loved the way she emoted the force power against the copter at the wedding, where's the beef???
  • Michael
    Great picks, especially Matthew Morrison as Reed, and if you chop off her hair and color it blonde Jesselyn Gilsig would be a great Sue. Chris Bauer would play the part of Ben well and id say Johnny Lewis for Johnny would be great. But now to tackle the real problem...writing and directing.
  • Justin
    Sir, wit all due respect. When you say Jessica Alba was pretty good. you lose all credibility. She was TERRIBLE. I dont know why so many people are afraid to say she cant act. Shes a beautiful woman. So What. Now she gets a free pass and people want to call her a good actress?? No no no. Abysmal is the word as far as what she brought to the CHARACTER of the invisible woman. And to say otherwise is just being in denial.
  • 790
    Jessica Alba, wasn't the reason the films didn't resonate with the fans. She was actually pretty good,,!!!
    It was the crap pacing and limp action of the second film that killed the franchise. The first film was adequate and enjoyable as a origin flick,,,
    But the sequel missed the point on two marks. Silver Surfer was a bitch, and Galactus was a cloud,,,

    With the CGI of today we could have had a believable Galactus but they wimped out and gave us a cloud and then a retarded ended to boot!!!

    Now they want us to support a reboot I say f you!!!!
  • Kofi Outlaw
    This thread is genuinely concerning me. I want a good F4 film - not a freaking MTV flick with Kristen Bell whining at Reed Richards, or some T&A show with eye candy who doesn't even come CLOSE to nailing the role of Invisible Woman down.

    I WANT A GOOD F4 FILM.
  • greenknight333
    I really don't care if Jessica Alba can act!! I would pay 10 bucks to watch 90 minutes of her drooling!! She is FANTASTIC!!!
  • paris
    I feel as though the original cast was perfect. Chiklis as the thing was cool. I completely agree with justin about studios now wanting to go back and rebooting all the sh flicks that weren't so dark to begin with. I actually liked the first two flicks. I saw them as fun entertaining flicks. Gauranteed when the reboot happens there will be plenty of people that'll be complaining about what was done to them. I feel as though there are too many people that don't know how to watch a movie let alone enjoy it. I base this on the critiques that in the end don't really have an effect on the story. One critic said there were too many shots of batman in tdk standing on high buildings. What kind of critique is that? I can admit if I see a bad movie but when I saw FF2 I wasn't expecting to be like Batman Begins.
  • 790
    Kirsten Bell needs to do a photo shoot. I think I speak for a few readers here.
    Then we can all move on,,, ;-)
  • Justin
    First of all. Sue Storm is a mature woman. If the actress can still play a highschool student and pull it off. She cannot Play sue storm. Honestly you guys are repeating the same mistakes with your casting. Kirsten Bell>???? R u serious?
    Get a mature blonde to play Sue storm. Not only is she a BIG sister to johnny but also a second mother type. You guys need to start thinking. We keep getting crap after crap after crap.
  • Josh Rose
    Whoever mentioned Misha Collins for Reed, that's a great, great idea.

    Reed - Misha Collins
    Sue - Kristen Bell
    Johnny - Ryan Kwanten (Not perfect, but I can't think of anyone better)
    Thing - Adam Baldwin

    I'd prefer they stray away from Doom, just because he was in the first one.
  • sign'em up !
  • piratedan
    @justin

    I cry foul on thee sir! How can thee denigrate her wondrous turn as the stripper with a heart of gold (if not a skin of gold) in Sin City? Come on man, she's easy on the eyes and as it has been mentioned previously, it's a comic book character, who do you want? Judi Dench? Helen Mirren? If you want her to be darker (after all, she's the invisible woman, how does dark exactly come into play here?) I'm sure she can spend more time on the beach if needed.

    I thot I was getting old enough to not be getting hung up on stuff like this, but I repeat, it's a comic book, If you want dark, go watch Akira again.
  • Justin
    Oh and Jessica Alba is not an actress. FACT
  • Justin
    How about axe the reboot option. You guys didnt get it right the first time so now you want our money again? TDK proved to everyone that these comicbook movies can be taken seriously. But these guys were afraid to take that risk before Dark Knight came out. Now everyone want to make their SH movies Dark. All Fans should be against this on principle. BUT as usual you guys fall into the trap. so I'm totally wasting my time even writing this.
  • MCat
    Yeah brilliant casting making one of the hottest chics on the planet the invisible woman! Brilliant!!!!
  • It wasn't the actors that were bad in those films, far from it.
    it was the director and the writer they want to re-boot. it's always the same thing in the end.... bad writing! Zack whathisname stinks yet they keep employing him to write comic book films?
    Get the script right! get the Director right! and you've a good chance of having a great comic book movie on your hands.
    (mind you I thought the second film was pretty decent to be honest but no one bothered with it as the fist one stank a bit.)
  • 790
    Haha,,,Piratedan!!!
    You have to admit that Alba was perfectly cast.
    ;-)

    If you get my drift,,, heee heee!
  • piratedan
    @790

    bingo! The actors were fine, but the writing was on a par for stiltedness with The Phantom Menace.

    All you have to see is the BBC production of the Horatio Hornblower films with Griffydd and you can see he can act, same with Chilkis as the Thing. Alba isn't Meryl Streep, but for crying out loud who is? and it's not as if this role had unspoken nuances of great emotional depth, just tighten it up, and find a director who doesn't require that there be a beat between the reading of each line of dialogue.
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