Comments on: Fantastic Four Conspiracy: Is Marvel’s CEO Trying To Hinder Fox’s Movie Plans? http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=marvel-fox-merchandise-promotion-conspiracy The #1 Independent Movie & TV News Website Wed, 28 Jan 2015 23:22:51 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sean http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1510429 Sat, 20 Dec 2014 18:22:15 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1510429 Maybe I am just niave but why can’t the studios work together within the MCU? As it exists marvel/Disney can only make two movies a year. If the other studios made movies under the MCU they make out and the fans make out.

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By: Z4RQUON http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1506906 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:20:48 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1506906 //”Update: Oddly enough, Fantastic Four’s director Josh Trank was just tapped by Disney to helm a standalone Star Wars movie which effectively may remove him from the director’s chair of Fantastic Four 2 which is already scheduled for 2017.”//

THIS is a good tactic, actually. Every time Disney hears about Fox courting a director for a Marvel movie… Disney can offer them a Star Wars movie to direct instead!

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By: Chris http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1506846 Tue, 16 Dec 2014 19:53:57 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1506846 “Well, the answer is in the question, and it’s because Marvel’s high-ups may not want to promote the competition”

OR maybe Marvel just dislikes the quality or direction that these heroes are having to go through. Personally, I find the actual Marvel movies (Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, Guardians of the Galaxy) to be far superior in cinematic quality than X-Men or the Fantastic 4 movies.

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By: Vampire Duck http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1210169 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:23:20 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1210169 I was really cringing at Havok in First Class, especially as the original is one of my favourite X-men.

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By: Vampire Duck http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1210168 Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:20:56 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1210168 I agree 100% with dancingteeth.

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By: Guest http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1208525 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:46:35 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1208525 So nobody? No 1939 hero is on that cover. We need Namor and Original Himan a Torch on the posters by that logic.

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By: Xmen fan http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1208514 Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:25:04 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1208514 Good, if your a fan of the fox versions of. Marvel characters your not a comic fan. For example Deadpool and Juggernaut are not mutants and nothing like the fox versions, rogue is an evil baddie until she absorbs Ms. Marvels personality and her goodness. marvel girl, aka Phoenix is nothing like the comics. cyclops father and brother are all screwed up.

No good moaning about fantastic four when Fox have got Xmen so wrong, it’s just more rubbish.

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By: Travis http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1200867 Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:54:57 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1200867 One point. If you’re a movie studio producing movies that are at least partially promoted by comics, wouldn’t you be more likely to promote your own movies through those comics than someone else’s? How many FF comics would you have to sell to equal the 3/4 of a billion dollars that Marvel is making with every one of it’s movies now? It’s a simple matter of economics. And if that ends up creating lackluster fan excitement for movies that are below par anyway, ultimately leading to Fox and Sony selling the rights of these characters back to Disney/Marvel (Fingers Crossed)then all the better.

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By: Anthony http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1200617 Wed, 03 Sep 2014 06:06:02 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1200617 I am totally fine with Marvel having full control of its characters, and not promoting the movies being created by the other studios. I look forward to the future whee Marvel reacquires its rights to all of its characters and probably reboots the entire movie universe after Avengers 3 or 4.

And recovers rights to Rom Spaceknight, of course. (helo.. Hasbro.. nubmnuts..)

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By: Mike http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1190236 Mon, 18 Aug 2014 20:38:04 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1190236 It is a shame that Fox would not sell back to Marvel the rights to the Silver Surfer and Galactus. The Silver Surfer was such a key figure in the Infinity Gauntlet story arc that Marvel is clearly setting up for Avengers 3 and Guardians of the Galaxy 2. I would love to see him as part of that story on the big screen.

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By: Nightcrawler http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1136292 Mon, 09 Jun 2014 09:30:37 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1136292 “New” old comics coming up because of the anniversary:

http://comicsbeat.com/marvel-to-release-really-snappy-75th-anniversary-masterworks-slipcase-set/

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By: dancingteeth http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-4/#comment-1135863 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 19:10:00 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135863 I am VERY okay with Marvel not helping to promote garbage. If we could get some Marvel produced X-men, Spider-man, and Fantastic Four movies, I suspect we would all scoff at the quality of these current offerings.

I want a great X-men and Fantastic Four movies, but giving me gruel and labeling it prime steak just will not sell anymore.

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By: Observer http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1135528 Sun, 08 Jun 2014 04:59:14 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135528 If they go on 616 route, we’re going to see Alexei Styevich in a rubber leotard with pointy forehead and Electro who’s costume are more flashy than new year fireworks. Same goes with Hawkeye. I mean come on, do you expect to believe a guy who wear purple costume and weird mask is an assassin?

I mean, yeah, at first they would be more intimidating once they have shown their actual ability. But as time went by, those costumes are just bad for your eyesight…

I had no comment regarding the black Electro part.

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By: TheInfinityGuy http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1135112 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 18:01:12 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135112 Hail Hydr- Disney!

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By: jeffro http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1135070 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:14:38 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135070 now that is an eyebrow raiser there. could disney have offered him the job, and whispered in his ear “delay the F4 film so we can get it back”? I am certainly not one for starting conspiracy theory’s, but that one would certainly seem plausible. there have not been any new reports on the status of that film for a few weeks now.
hmmm…

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By: Nightcrawler http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1135066 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:10:40 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135066 Ok, so you want to scream? Knock yourself out. I won’t.

I was actually going to ignore you once I easily made my point (i.e. you are very biased because you are Mr. “I hate you Disney/Marvel”) but you are so in need of help that I shall give it to you:

1. “Fake internet”?

I am not entirely sure what you meant by this, but please note that although Screen Rant was initially not publishing my posts with the links, in the end they did it. The Deodato poster, the trailer and the Omnibus are all real things. There is also a website I invite you to check out: mavel.com/75.

These, my friend, are things that you should know, or could have discovered, if you were actually a true fan more focused on the anniversary and less focused on “boycotting everything Disney does” (your own words). Just a thought: positive over negative.

2. “X-Men and Spiderman movie rights DON’T BELONG TO YOU”, “crap villains”, “YOUR PRODUCT IS ABOUT TO BECOME A MESS”

X-Men and Spiderman are indeed the cool ones, in fact those are the comics I started with, and that is obviously why they were monetized first. That said, you side lining the Avengers and the rest of the Marvel catalogue is as shameful as those posters from Disney up there.

The Avengers have been at the core of everything that Marvel comics have historically done. The Avengers was in fact the collection where things affecting the larger Marvel universe actually happened (Spiderman and X-Men were pretty much self contained). The Avengers were always very much favoured. A few examples:

- In Secret Wars, the first mega cross over of its kind in 1984, it is the Captain America they one leading the heroes and the one finally defeating Doom. Marvel right there chose to give him a leading role
- The Kree/Skrull war happened in Avengers
- JLA/Avengers, the best cross over between DC and Marvel ever, had the Avengers and not any other group in it, because they are the cherished ones by the House of Ideas
- More recently, but still before 2008 when Disney acquired Marvel, the Civil War arc depicted Captain America and Iron Man as the leaders of both sides
- And I could go on…

Basically the Avengers have always been as important as the others to Marvel, if not more.

Luckily for Disney they not only have the Avengers but also Guardians of the Galaxy, the Inhumans, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Ms Marvel, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, the reacquired Blade, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil,… Shall I go on?

You saying that their product is going to become a mess or wondering where they could go after Avengers 3, when they have so much material to use, is simply you being negative again.

Surely we will miss in the MCU baddies like Galactus, the Skrulls, the Mutants or the entire Spiderman rogue gallery, but Loki and Winter Soldier have worked for me, I am sure Ultron and Thanos will work for me, and after that you will still have the Kree, the Beyonder, Korvac, Kang, etc

3. “Can’t wait to see that bastardized version of Quicksilver.”

Bastardized? Really? Either you have not read the comics at all or again your hate is blinding you. Quicksilver is a thousand times more of an Avengers world character than an X-Men world character. He never had any prominent role in the X-Men books and everybody knows this. If you don’t know this, we can end the conversation right here.

Fox using it first, and beating Marvel Studios to it, is that thing you hate: being business savvy.

4. “Phase 2 has been garbage outside of Cap 2, which in itself isn’t as great as the internet wants you to think it is.”

I don’t need the internet to tell me what to think. I have eyes and an opinion and I happened to find Cap 2 absolutely excellent. Precisely because Cap is a more boring and unidimensional character, certainly not as cool as Spiderman or Wolverine or Magneto, handling him correctly deserves extra credit.

I also enjoyed Thor: The Dark World, despite its short comings, and while IM3 was not great, I am not gonna let just one movie spoil the mood for me and I remain optimistic for the rest of phase 2 and beyond. You should try it. I am very much looking forward to Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers: Age of Ultron.

5. “Edgar Wright, who is cooler than both of us, just gave Marvel the finger. I’m right there with him.”

That’s your problem right there, that you think that you have to pick sides… Who do you love more mummy or daddy?

I suggest you read what James Gunn had to say on the topic and again try to take a more positive approach to things.

6. “FOX actually started this, not Disney.”

Agree. Utmost respect for Brian Signer and his first two X-Men movies. That’s why I still haven’t decided if X-Men:DoFP is the best one of the saga. The first two had to overcome so many things to work out and they excelled at such challenge.

7. “What happens after Avengers 3? I enjoyed the Disney/Marvel product right up until they made it apparent that it is all about global marketing and maximizing profits ala Iron Man 3.”

The profit is what allows you to open the door to other properties and take bigger gambles. You are hopefully gonna get to see Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, the Inhumans, Black Panther, etc because they are riding on such success. Snyder praised this. Would you rather have them failing and not getting those movies made? Because that it is really how it works. No bucks, no movie. These are mega productions, no indie movies… You need a return. That’s why Daredevil from Fox and Ghostrider from Sony went back to Marvel. That’s why we still have our fingers crossed for Deadpool. That’s why after Superman Returns they laid low with the character.

Wake up dude.

8. “This is a real voice. Not some manufactured marketing bullsh*t.”

We all have a real voice, you just seem to be angrier and have a more pessimistic approach to things. It is your call, but I don’t think that’s the way to go about it. You should wish success to all the studios. That’s what a true fan would do anyway. I am over the moon with this CBM boom and I hope it lasts for as long as possible.

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By: jeffro http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1135062 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:04:25 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135062 @ DM
“FOX actually started this, not Disney. Disney caught lightning in a bottle with Avengers and the properties that weren’t owned yet by FOX or SONY which is probably why they bought it all in the first place.”

ACTUALLY, Marvel started it as it was their IP to begin with, and FOX made 2 good films, and turned the whole franchise into crap with X3 and XO:W. silly continuity errors all over the place but i still liked all the movies. I have not yet seen DOFP, but i will. Marvel started the “shared film universe concept”, and have done a pretty decent job of keeping things connected, even if some of the threads are a bit thin, it’s still working for them. you said disney was the worst thing to happen to the genre. i think most people will disagree. [the box office numbers prove that]. i also didnt need the internet to tell me how good CA:TWS is. my own 2 eyes and ears told me that. i didnt even read a review before i saw it. i would have given it 4 stars myself. the one glaring error i saw was when cap and BW went back to caps old army HQ, and they went down a very deep elevator shaft, then the bomb hit, and they were able to just walk outside. maybe i missed something, but repeat views of the bluray when it come out will show me i suppose.
I’m curios why mark millar is no longer heading up FOX’s Marvel universe. he kept running his mouth how x-men and FF were absolutely going to crossover, and now that seems to be not happening. i guess time will tell.

you say “owned yet” as though marvel was still trying to sell more of their IP to different studios, or that FOX was somehow going to acquire the rights without marvel’s ok. also, i think disneys acquisition of Marvel wasnt finalized until late ’09, early ’10. (per the couple articles i found on google)
i have to say, your hatred of disney is hilarious. keep up the entertaining rants.
peace.

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By: Nightcrawler http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1135061 Sat, 07 Jun 2014 17:00:47 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1135061 Ok, so you want to scream? Knock yourself out. I won’t.

I was actually going to ignore you once I easily made my point (i.e. you are very biased because you are Mr. “I hate you Disney/Marvel”) but you are so in need of help that I shall give it to you:

1. “Fake internet”?

I am not entirely sure what you meant by this, but please note that although Screen Rant was initially not publishing my posts with the links, in the end they did it. The Deodato poster, the trailer and the Omnibus are all real things. There is also a website I invite you to check out: mavel.com/75.

These, my friend, are things that you should know, or could have discovered, if you were actually a true fan more focused on the anniversary and less focused on “boycotting everything Disney does” (your own words). Just a thought: positive over negative.

2. “X-Men and Spiderman movie rights DON’T BELONG TO YOU”, “crap villains”, “YOUR PRODUCT IS ABOUT TO BECOME A MESS”

X-Men and Spiderman are indeed the cool ones, in fact those are the comics I started with, and that is obviously why they were monetized first. That said, you side lining the Avengers and the rest of the Marvel catalogue is as shameful as those posters from Disney up there.

The Avengers have been at the core of everything that Marvel comics have historically done. The Avengers was in fact the collection where things affecting the larger Marvel universe actually happened (Spiderman and X-Men were pretty much self contained). The Avengers were always very much favoured. A few examples:

- In Secret Wars, the first mega cross over of its kind in 1984, it is the Captain America they one leading the heroes and the one finally defeating Doom. Marvel right there chose to give him a leading role
- The Kree/Skrull war happened in Avengers
- JLA/Avengers, the best cross over between DC and Marvel ever, had the Avengers and not any other group in it, because they are the cherished ones by the House of Ideas
- More recently, but still before 2008 when Disney acquired Marvel, the Civil War arc depicted Captain America and Iron Man as the leaders of both sides
- And I could go on…

Basically the Avengers have always been as important as the others to Marvel, if not more.

Luckily for Disney they not only have the Avengers but also Guardians of the Galaxy, the Inhumans, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, Ms Marvel, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, the reacquired Blade, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Daredevil,… Shall I go on?

You saying that their product is going to become a mess or wondering where they could go after Avengers 3, when they have so much material to use, is simply you being negative again.

Surely we will miss in the MCU baddies like Galactus, the Skrulls, the Mutants or the entire Spiderman rogue gallery, but Loki and Winter Soldier have worked for me, I am sure Ultron and Thanos will work for me, and after that you will still have the Kree, the Beyonder, Korvac, Kang, etc

3. “Can’t wait to see that bastardized version of Quicksilver.”

Bastardized? Really? Either you have not read the comics at all or again your hate is blinding you. Quicksilver is a thousand times more of an Avengers world character than an X-Men world character. He never had any prominent role in the X-Men books and everybody knows this. If you don’t know this, we can end the conversation right here.

Fox using it first, and beating Marvel Studios to it, is that thing you hate: being business savvy.

4. “Phase 2 has been garbage outside of Cap 2, which in itself isn’t as great as the internet wants you to think it is.”

I don’t need the internet to tell me what to think. I have eyes and an opinion and I happened to find Cap 2 absolutely excellent. Precisely because Cap is a more boring and unidimensional character, certainly not as cool as Spiderman or Wolverine or Magneto, handling him correctly deserves extra credit.

I also enjoyed Thor: The Dark World, despite its short comings, and while IM3 was not great, I am not gonna let just one movie spoil the mood for me and I remain optimistic for the rest of phase 2 and beyond. You should try it. I am very much looking forward to Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers: Age of Ultron.

5. “Edgar Wright, who is cooler than both of us, just gave Marvel the finger. I’m right there with him.”

That’s your problem right there, that you think that you have to pick sides… Who do you love more mummy or daddy?

I suggest you read what James Gunn had to say on the topic and again try to take a more positive approach to things.

6. “FOX actually started this, not Disney.”
Agree. Utmost respect for Brian Signer and his first two X-Men movies. That’s why I still haven’t decided if X-Men:DoFP is the best one of the saga. The first two had to overcome so many things to work out and they excelled at such challenge.

7. “What happens after Avengers 3? I enjoyed the Disney/Marvel product right up until they made it apparent that it is all about global marketing and maximizing profits ala Iron Man 3.”

The profit is what allows you to open the door to other properties and take bigger gambles. You are hopefully gonna get to see Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, Doctor Strange, the Inhumans, Black Panther, etc because they are riding on such success. Snyder praised this. Would you rather have them failing and not getting those movies made? Because that it is really how it works. No bucks, no movie. These are mega productions, no indie movies… You need a return. That’s why Daredevil from Fox and Ghostrider from Sony went back to Marvel. That’s why we still have our fingers crossed for Deadpool. That’s why after Superman Returns they laid low with the character.

Wake up dude.

8. “This is a real voice. Not some manufactured marketing bullsh*t.”

We all have a real voice, you just seem to be angrier and have a more pessimistic approach to things. It is your call, but I don’t think that’s the way to go about it. You should wish success to all the studios. That’s what a true fan would do anyway. I am over the moon with this CBM boom and I hope it lasts for as long as possible.

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By: Dr Mindbender http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1134441 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:58:34 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1134441 ‘scuse me.

Edgar Wright didn’t give “Marvel” the finger…

…he gave “Disney/Marvel” the finger.

Marvel is still cool. In fact, it’s more than just cool it’s awesome.

I did just see X-Men DoFP again today for the THIRD TIME, and yes, Marvel is absolutely incredible.

FOX actually started this, not Disney. Disney caught lightning in a bottle with Avengers and the properties that weren’t owned yet by FOX or SONY which is probably why they bought it all in the first place.

But where does Disney/Marvel go from here, I ask?

I still don’t see Black Panther on that 75 year “celebration” poster.

What happens after Avengers 3? I enjoyed the Disney/Marvel product right up until they made it apparent that it is all about global marketing and maximizing profits ala Iron Man 3.

I’m a real fan of this stuff sir, and you can label me as much as I label you. Go for it.

This is a real voice. Not some manufactured marketing bullsh*t.

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By: Dr Mindbender http://screenrant.com/fantastic-four-cancellation-rumors-fox-marvel/comment-page-3/#comment-1134436 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 23:45:26 +0000 http://screenrant.com/?p=457761#comment-1134436 Who’s pretending?

Disney/Marvel is the worst thing to happen to the genre since… well…

Disney/Marvel.

No one is hiding here sir.

Phase 1 was incredible.

Phase 2 has been garbage outside of Cap 2, which in itself isn’t as great as the internet wants you to think it is.

Edgar Wright, who is cooler than both of us, just gave Marvel the finger.

I’m right there with him.

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