Yeah I find that a lot of 45 fans like the 1911 model as there fav,,, very accurate and reliable.

Anywho, the crime where I live is actually not bad, it’s just the few bad apples that made my neighborhood bad for a little while. They moved away, now magically no more break-ins, muggings, or anything. We all knew who it was that was doing all of that, just no proof…

As for the .45 not holding as much, you don’t NEED as much. Hehe, seriously though, yah, it would be nice to have more rounds, but it’s not bad, the Springfield XD-45 holds 13+1 rounds of .45 ACP. I think that’s more than enough. Two shots center mass with .45 Golden Saber hollowpoints will most likely put anyone down… hopefully…

But I actually like the 1911 more, which only holds 8 rounds of .45 ACP. With two extra mags that I carry with me, that’s 24 rounds of .45 ACP. Not too shabby… I am hoping not to ever have to use it on one person much less so many people I will need to reload more than twice, haha… If that’s the case, I’ll be shooting and running…

Hm, but when I’m out with my typical group of friends, let’s see, 24-rounds of .45ACP, sometimes 5 rounds of .38 in my stubby when I decide to bring that along as well, my friend either carries his 1911 also or his XD-45, so let’s just say 13 of .45, he carries one extra mag sometimes, my other friend carries his XD-9, that’s 16 rounds I think of 9mm and he carries one extra mag, and my other friend she usually carries her kahr 9mm which is like 6 rounds. So between all of us there is sometimes as much as 96 rounds to go around, haha, and I think they do the +1 thing, I don’t.

Hey, we don’t plan it, it just so happens all of my friends also carry, we’re not going to not carry because we know the others are carrying so it ends up we have quite a bit of firepower on us as a group everytime we go out, haha.

Yeah for close range the 45 handgun is effective, it just doesn’t hold as much as the 9mm. Ever shoot a 30 Carbine Automag? There’s some fun.

That sucks about the crime level where your at. Out here in LA its pretty bad as well, but luckily I’m in one of the safest residences around. But the crazies of Hollywood are all in walking distance and I don’t have enough rounds for all of them.

Wait, are we comparing the .45 to the 5.56mm??? How can you compare them? I’m comparing it to OTHER HANDGUN ROUNDS… Of course it’s at close range, you don’t use handguns for long range shooting, well, unless you’re Jerry Miculek and his uber wheel-gun skills, lol. Of course when comparing those two, there’s no competition. Same can be said for any other handgun round compared to the 5.56mm…

You don’t compare an intermediate-power rifle round to a handgun round, lol. Anyway, like they say: your handgun is for you to get to your longgun. So it’s purely secondary use. For handguns I prefer the .45, for longguns I prefer the 7.62x51mm, second is the AR15 and its 5.56x45mm, last is the AK’s 7.62x39mm.

I’m not a huge fan of the 9mm either, don’t want to get into the reasoning, probably won’t happen here, but in other forums, it always sparks an argument, lol.

12-guage is always the ideal home protection weapon, but my main home protection weapon is my “sock drawer gun” (which isn’t actually in my sock drawer, but that’s what it is commonly referred to) and it’s a little Smith and Wesson “Air Weight” .38 revolver, but if I were to hear a noise in my house, I would grab that since it’s right there, then make my way to the safe to get my .45, lol.

Haven’t had to yet, but always good to have a plan so you don’t just wake up all confused and directionless if you hear a noise in the middle of the night…

I actually live in a very nice suburban neighborhood, but all it takes is one group of trouble makers and you will have crime in the nicest of neighborhoods. And unfortunately I’ve experienced the results of this first hand. Had my house broken into once, but not while I was home, lucky for him… and had my car broken into twice… Bastards… lol. But someone down the street had his home broken into while he was inside and he actually shot and killed the intruder. And I remember a few years ago an old lady was mugged in my neighborhood. Sounds bad, but I’ve been living here for like 20 years… In the last neighborhood I lived in, crime was like a daily occurrance, lol. It’s always good to be prepared even if your neighborhood is “safe.” Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it I like to say…

Besides the 380 and some low velocity 22 rounds the 45 is real slow. What’s the range on your stats? Its strictly close range where a AR15 has 4x the range and also supports armor piercing rounds, tracers etc. The 223 or 5.56mm round transfers all its energy on impact and leaves 4x the exit wound of a 45. Depending on the range most 45 handgun rounds don’t exit the body. The additional barrel length on a 45 cal assault rifle wouldn’t add that much fps to a round that travels around 1000 fps.

I don’t really like the 9mm, unless you have it loaded with Carbine loads. Not all handguns (Glocks/ Beretta) can take the pressure of those loads. They’re hard to find around here. (Cal.)

AK47 is a throwaway assault rifle. Poor accuracy make it a point and spray weapon. (IMO)

My weapon of home protection is a 12 gauge and 357 mag.

Haha,,, sounds like your living in a bad part of town Ken, shheShh.
I’ve always wanted to live out in the wilderness in a compound like Burt Gummer had in Tremors.
” I wanted Hollow points Chang, hollow points!!!”

If it wasn’t illegal, I would just have automated machine guns guarding my property, lol.

Hehe, I’m not a Jolie fan, but something about that girl’s tattoos and fake hair that doesn’t do it for me, haha. Still, chicks with guns = no arguments from me… (unless said gun is pointed in my direction… lol)

Hehe, yah, the .45 is pretty slow, but it’s only relatively slow compared to other rounds. It’s still fast enough to do tons of damage. Penetration-wise, don’t believe in those fake reports about coats stopping them. Real penetration tests have shown that HOLLOWPOINTS (which usually have far less penetration) will penetrate over 17-20 inches of ballistics gellatin after going through clothing. I don’t know about you, but I know from front to back I’m less than 17 inches. So it’s more than enough penetration to reach vital organs and do enough damage.

And the added diameter has an advantage that no faster round can claim, and that’s in the size of the permanent cavity left by that round. Imagine you shoot at someone’s center mass. A 9mm might JUST miss the major arteries or the heart by a millimeter or less, while if that was a .45, you would have JUST hit it instead of just missed it. It makes enough of a difference in stopping that indivual from stabbing or shooting you.

And as far as rifle rounds, I prefer the 7.62x51mm (NOT the 7.62x39mm round of the AK47) over the 5.56x45mm, but in the classic M16 vs. AK47 argument, I prefer the M16 and its 5.56mm (.223). My favorite weapon is my DSA FAL which is chambered for the 7.62x51mm round. Devastating round…

If you like guns, California is one of the worst places to live. Well, better than Illinois or New York at least… I want to move to Kennesaw Georgia, where everyone is required to own a firearm and the murder rate is just about 0, lol, go figure…

LWRC M6A2 > H&K G36
DSA FAL > H&K G3
Springfield Armory XD45 or Glock in .45 ACP > H&K USP

Can’t think of anything to compete with the H&K UMP45 though, maybe except the KRISS but haven’t fired that myself so can’t say it’s better but from what I’ve read it’s pretty awesome and probably has better customer service than H&K… but then again, EVERYONE has better customer service than H&K… lol

Very cool coverage. So lucky, free ammo, can’t find ammo and I’m willing to pay!

Vic