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SIN187UM says:

Story, Character Choice, and acting ruined this film.

Stephen says:

ok first off Transformers for the most part was the corniest cartoon i ever saw…yeah i’m only 18 but it was still corny when i was a kid.Dragonball, i thought was very stupid the plots were horrible as was the fighting,but when they mad dragonball z they made it to the big leagues of manga because dragon ball z was originally made for an adult audience…after dragonball z was done…they tried to keep it going with gt but failed horribly…I havent watched this movie and am not a fan of the dragon ball or gt but of dragonball z i would have to say that half my town is because i work at walmart and we get stocked with dragonball z all the time because its always selling and we need more. So to say that dragonball z isnt well known would be a lie cuz i see alot of stuff for it all over the state…yes at sometimes it can get annoying or corny but it makes up for it in the end…my gf cant stand it she asks whats the big deal about it. I just say for one of the first japanese adult mangas dragon ball z is pretty good. although i wont watch this movie i would like to see a dragon ball z adaptation cuz with the right people it would make for a great flick…fans and non fans.

T-Grave, it’s called the mastermind of marketing. Sheesh.

Now for the trick question of the day:

I’m am completely convinced that this hard working film that brings the genius of DBZ to the screen, is going to set some records at the Box Office. How can it not!!?? I bet the cinematography is just genius and … and… Ug.. I can’t keep that up.

But the question is, what record will it set or break?

Stephen says:

made* sorry

Stephen says:

@ bruce
again this film is an adaptation of dragonball not dragon ball z…before you say whats the difference. trust me there is definitely a difference dragonball was for kids dragonball z was for adults.

Jen says:

Not sure I actually want to get into this conversation, but…

I’ve seen Dragonball: Evolution. And I watched the TV series. That familiarity helped a lot towards enjoying the film — the Dragonball universe is bizarre in nature, with a unique mythology that isn’t widely accessible. So I can see how someone with no frame of reference would not enjoy the film.

1. The first thing you should know about the movie is that it’s a kids’ action adventure, not a sophisticated piece of adult entertainment, and it should be viewed as such.

2. The casting isn’t terrible. There, I said it. I’m Japanese American and was deeply offended by the casting of, say, Memoirs of a Geisha (mostly because that movie was shit), but here I didn’t mind the “international” cast — but only after actually watching the movie. Beforehand, I was a bit outraged that the cast of an adaptation of a Japanese franchise was primarily Caucasian (and truth be told, I’m still vaguely irked by it), but the players did their job and fleshed out characters about as well as the script allowed them to. Justin Chatwin doesn’t have a great track record, but he embodied much of what Goku is, so it was easier than one would think to embrace this alternate future/globalized setting.

3. I’d actually argue with the author about Piccolo being the best-played character. Marsters is given the unenviable task of acting under heavy prosthetics and green makeup for the entire movie, and you don’t really get a sense of why Piccolo is doing his evil deeds. I thought it was the least developed character in the bunch, even less fleshed out than the token love interest, Chi Chi.

4. For what it is, Dragonball has entertaining-enough action and plenty of visually striking scenes. Slow motion water droplets, kinetic martial arts sequences…and it doesn’t look terribly cheap.

I guess what I’m saying is that Dragonball isn’t as awful as some would say it is. It’s clear that Fox is hoping to pursue sequels, and so purists can expect the storylines they love so much (that didn’t appear in Dragonball: Evolution) to be used in later films. Consider other films in this genre — maybe The Forbidden Kingdom, or Race to Wretch Mountain…it’s much more watchable than either.

Lastly, regarding this Transformers-Dragonball franchise debate that’s been going on in this thread; the “Transformers is bigger” argument wins — if you are talking only about American pop culture, and not, you know, the rest of the world. It’s short sighted to dismiss the popularity of the Dragonball universe within Asian culture.

Flame on.

Rob Keyes says:

CyberpunkCentral,

You’re setting a sad example of fanboyism. From hypocritical statements, to biased and incomplete numbers. You make a statements of “fact” – a word you keep using, then when asked to show evidence you turn it around and ask them for evidence… yet it was you who brought that up?

All of you are comparing difference franchises based on YOUR OWN OPINION so you can’t win the debate.

You prefer your own franchise and that’s fine – they’re all huge. This review is based on the film, not the franchise – And this film does not resonate at all amongst mainstream audiences.

John "Kahless" Taylor says:

@bruce
It will be the least grossing film of April. Ok, where’s my cookie? :-)

T-Grave says:

I agree with Rob about the franchise thing ;)

And I just think it’s nice to have a db movie(finally), but it just doesn’t do what I could of have …
So for god sake I hope they make a sequel, and do something good with it.

And in my opinion I like justin chatwin as Goku :p But hey, that’s just me I guess

SIN187UM says:

@ Jen

Nothing was dismissed during the alleged debate about DB in Asian Culture, and Transformers is not just limited to the pop culture of the US.

For what this film was there was nothing stunning about it except how awful it was. I wouldn’t necessarily classify Forbidden Kingdom in the same category as the same genre and definitely not Race to Witch Mountain. I think more would enjoy Forbidden Kingdom better than Dragonball De-Evolution.

@ Stephen

It’s a well known act that most 80s cartoons were/are corny, but that’s part of the fun if u grew up on it.

Stephen says:

@ sin
I’m not arguing that fact. I’m just saying people enjoy their own brand of “corny” and for me it was DBZ just like for you it would be Transformers.

STEPHEN:

Oh, I know.

John “Kahless” Taylor:

Ding ding ding…. and we have a winner!!! LOL.

SIN187UM says:

@ Stephen

Not arguing either, actually was agreeing. Yes u are right people enjoy their own form of corny, just like some people enjoy Fail movies. Hope Fox backs a live Action Pokemon to contend with this current crapfest called DB evolution.

Stephen says:

lol omg i think i’d riot if that crap happens lol

SIN187UM says:

Lol you wouldn’t be alone in that riot

Rob Keyes says:

@ T-Grave,

I think your wish is being granted – I heard something about Marsters talking about a sequel :)

SIN187UM says:

@ Rob Keyes

That statement about a sequel at this point in time makes me shudder.

Iron Knight says:

Glad you both have stopped arguing with each other SIN187UM and Cyberpunk. I really imagined for a second the two of you being some 8-year old kid in a computer, while wearing a t-shirt with some Transformers and DragonBall draws in it respectively. I like Transformers a lot more, but honestly I don’t care which one has a bigger fanbase.

As for the “movie” (if can call it like that)… well from the very first moment I heard of it being developed I just knew it was crap, and after I say the first trailer I almost vomit. I haven’t seen it and I’m not planning on spending any money of it. This could be the worst film of the year, if not of the last 5 years by reading Ross’ review, which BTW had me laughing all over it.

Just hope there’s no sequel… that would really be an insult to the cinema.

SIN187UM says:

@ Iron Knight

I think the worst film of the year is between this and SF Legend of ChunLi. I think SF is a bit, just tad bit more enjoyable than this movie here. My Xformers shirt is small and was retired long ago LoL. It was never really that big a deal until insults were chucked for no reason.

I have to say – I never dreamed a review of this movie would spark so much discussion!

Vic

4900PR says:

Ross, people understand that movie audience is larger. Just because Hollywood decided to put their own spin on a long-since dead franchise with a big budget, again does not justify its fanbase prior to that adaptation.

And when there’s a huge % of movie-goers seeing this for the sheer sake of Hollywood CGI entertainment, or to cart their kids to the theatre plaza, it’s not the same thing.

In Dragonball’s defense, a huge % of Hollywood Tranformers audience aren’t emotionally connected to the film’s story and characters like fans are to Dragonball. In fact, most people who see Transformers never see it again. So these dollar amounts you see piling up in Transformers’ defense, are accumulted by mere, general public wanting to see an action-packed Hollywood film. And of which public majority knows nothing about Transformers prior to the adaptation.

That doesn’t say much for the franchise, when the new spin is so generically assembled in Hollywood, the classic edition is unrecognizable.

The idea is great, it appeals to children, sure, and the franchise received some Hollywood revitalization.

For the guys complaining about “proof”, research it yourself. There are plenty of sites to start with.

Transformers Original following:
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Dragonball following:
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Transformers Movie following:
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There are plenty of reasons to exlude a movie audience from a discussion about comic/cartoon material, stories, characters and emotional connections .. but just to set the bar, I’ll add it.

SIN187UM says:

Bar set to Silence.

4900PR says:

I’m sorry, but if you can’t come up with a viable argument in defense as to why Transformers fell off the animated food chain years ago only to be revived by Hollywood’s ‘Next Big Idea’, and to why Dragonball’s lived a strong, long life as a comic/cartoon/game franchise that is continuing to produce and continuing to sell, then you are meaningless to speak to from here out.

SIN187UM says:

Im sorry Thesaurus Commander but falling on or off the “food chain” is based on many factors that you have yet to become aware of. Next Big Idea LOL those are a dime a dozen in Hollywood and this film proves it. I love failed fanboyism, it makes the days go by so much quicker. How’s your self argument going?

what says:

O.K. I like DB and Transformers, but I totally agree with Ross about popularity and pop culture popularity with the masses. DB is very popular in the Asian markets, but here it’s popular with mostly the niche anime’ fanboy/girl crowd and if that is all you talk to or hang out with then yeah it seems more popular than Star Wars.

As for Star Wars: in the U.S. every person, black, white, male, female, young and old knows at least one character or scene or line from star wars. Star Wars is part of American Lexicon. It has crossed over from being just sci-fi movies to a brand. The same goes for Star Trek or Coke or Hamburgers and fries. That is the TRUE sign of popularity. When you cross over from obscurity to pop icon status. DB has not done that in the U.S. and this movie isn’t gonna help. So forget the fan bases and sales. You have to base popularity on mass appeal and name recognition. DB just doesn’t measure up. It’s mass appeal that will get you a quality picture made with a huge budget and promotion. Fox used DB to just make a quick buck off of an established fan base who are crazy enough to fall for it.

Holy cow… if you just do a search and replace you could have a Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate going on here.

Why in the heck does it matter whether Transformers or Dragonball is more popular????

Vic

Holy Bull Fecal Matter Batman!! We can’t let go of our favs!

GUYS: LET IT GO. You like this, He likes that. End Game!

Phasers set to mute:

SIN187UM says:

@ Vic

It doesn’t and never really did, but a die hard fan will become belligerent and enraged when people don’t agree with them, start finding meaningless figures and polls, clutching to a thesaurus to make their grammar and verbiage seem as if they went to an Ivy league school, when they try to make a failed point. The only time people take such offense to something is if their is some truth in what was said.

“start finding meaningless figures and polls, clutching to a thesaurus to make their grammar and verbiage seem as if they went to an Ivy league school”

Hey!!!

That fits UFO “enthusiasts”… sorry.

We should stick to the post subject matter of a review of this movie. I’ll stop going down errant subject paths.

Josh R says:

What dissapointed most about the movie is that the draft of the script they used was absolutely terrible in comparison to the leaked draft of the script that got out about six or seven months ago.

At first I thought it was a fan made script that somebody decided to put on the internet in the disguise of the real script, but its obvious from watching the movie that it WAS an actual earlier draft, and although it was obviously not a great script, it was fantastic compared to the one they ended up using.

At least in the earlier version, the characters at least acted like they did in the manga/anime. That, to me, was the biggest problem with the movie. Not the terrible script or story, but the fact that NONE of the characters were the same as their comic counterparts. You expect some changes going in, but its just ridiculous to change every last detail and expect fans to accept that.

Dragonball may not be the best source material for a movie, but it could have been so much better than what they ended up making.

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