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Harumi says:

I’m not sure what you’re disagreeing with me about, since you basically reiterated my point. I was addressing the complaint that the movie should have “stuck with the original storyline”, which wouldn’t have worked because of all the background in it. I don’t expect a western audience to know anything about Journey to the West (and Asians certainly don’t know much about the Odyssey), but it doesn’t take away from the fact that without such background knowledge, it often gets in the way of story enjoyment. Sure, we can research on the internet, but a movie shouldn’t require research unless it’s a pure niche movie dedicated to hardcore fans.

I too, didn’t care for Dragonball. Actually, the entire series became the basis for all the other formulaic “power-up, arena battle” anime that we see so much of (and I hate). Realistically speaking, staying true to the original manga of Dragonball for this movie would have been a disaster. The original series was not… good shall we say.

Dragonball Evolution is failing because it tried to do everything at once, and that simply isn’t possible, not with the original Dragonball. That, and miscasting, cheesy dialog, terrible action, and bad special effects. The plot would have been much easier if they’d kept to Dragonball Z, GT, or any other series that I never bothered to watch. I think the movie lacked focus.

For the record, a white Goku in a Dragonball movie makes me shudder, but the idea of a white Goku in Dragonball Z doesn’t make me blink. I really do think it’s because of the ties the original series had to Journey to the West.

They would have done well to have taken a leaf out of Transformers. It was about giant robots fighting other giant robots and blowing stuff up, and the movie delivered. As it stands the current DBE movie makes those of us who are Asian want to cover our eyes, the fanboys scream in rage, and the outsider to go, “Huh?”

T-Grave says:

@John, as a matter of fact their was a moment Picollo got help from the ones that released him from that Jar like thing; Emperor Pilaf and his allies, which was a doglike person and a woman with black hair much like the woman in the movie.

@Harumi
I disagree with your statement they should have started with DBZ instead of DB, I like Dragonball more than DBZ, and I don’t know anything about Asian history tales.
They have to introduce Goku somehow, and its hard to do so in dbz because when they made the dbz anime,they assumed people knew most of goku’s background from DB.

The script just sucked ASS. That’s a fact, I’m a 100% sure if they took a script from ANY db fanboy it would have been SO much better. Of course, they’d never do something like that, but at least have the script reviewed by people that admire or know dragonball somewhat more then themselves, and not just have seen an episode or two(I’m pretty certain none of team behind this movie have seen all dragonball episodes…).

Chuck Peters says:

@Harumi

I couldn’t figure out what your point was probably. Because most these fanboys have probably not read Journey to the West, especially before seeing Dragonball whatever. Sorry but to me that sounds like to have enjoyed Jaws people would have to know an in depth history of sharks, and would of had to read the original novel by Peter Benchley. Hell not many people could honestly say they knew about the actually history of the 300 Spartans/events that occured before they watched 300. And that is probably what I am disagreeing with you about is that to enjoy a film you have to have a whole background knowledge of something, when realistically most people don’t. Writing a script for a film is different. I am in agreement that Americanizing this film added to the overall suck of the film, but I still don’t think it would be as epic…THE FILM…. as people would want it to be if it was more from the original back story of DB (NOT DBZ). And probably this lack of marketing people are whinning about is because they don’t go to G and PG movies that often, which is primarily where the DB Fail trailer was shown.

Chuck Peters says:

@ T-Grave

THe reason the average fanboy wouldn’t get a chance is because the majority have no Hollywood connections, or connections to get to the actual writers of the DB Universe to help them pen a script, also with so many varying opinions of what should be what even with in fanboy circles people would still be upset and feel jaded by the final product.

Harumi says:

@ Chuck, T-Grave

Are you seriously trying to create my Journey to the West analogy to Jaws? For real? Your 300 analogy fit much better. But the point still stands. What was 300 about? Pretty, gruesome, battles. There was no complicated plot. Dragonball has a complicated plot, or it should have, but it failed to deliver.

You don’t have to know the whole background of something, but for most ordinary people the reason why Dragonball is a turn off is precisely for that reason. Most of my friends aren’t into anime. They thought the premise of Dragonball was rather stupid, and the reactions to several commenters’ attempts at plot summaries on this very site proved it. If I could make a dollar for all the times people said, “Oh, now that you explained the connections it does sound interesting” I’d be very, very rich right now. Now, I didn’t care for Dragonball either way as a series even as a kid, so I’m definitely not the target audience.

Most people were only exposed to Dragonball Z, and that has in fact, been a huge reason for the anger and confusion (the overwhelming majority thought it was based off of DBZ, and don’t even realize that there was a “prequel” of sorts). Dragonball had in fact been canceled initially because of terrible ratings. It wasn’t until the popularity of Dragonball Z that they began to reshow the original Dragonball.

For an 85 minute film there’s not much backstory and plot you can add into something that requires an explanation like Dragonball.

My point is to either make something to cater to the true fans (in which case make a helluva long epic and stick with the original story), or if you want to draw in the outsiders, start with a focused, action, mostly plot-less movie taken from DBZ. DBEvolution tried to cater to both and failed because of that.

Chuck Peters says:

@Harumi

I still fail to see what it is. And yes I’m saying the same thing with Jaws or any other flick, that to enjoy a film you don’t need to know an in depth history or knowledge prior to viewing it. Any who I take it you have not read about the Battle of Thermopalye which is why u say its oh just about battles, or the history behind it. I fail to see the complicatedness of Dragonball….

DB (NOT DBZ) Plot Super Condensed- kakarot is sent to destroy earth, bumps his head, loses memory that he was supposed to destroy earth, raised by the old man who finds him, has zany adventures as he discovers the new world around him and searches for dragonballs, learns and hones his martial arts skills blah and blah, ultimately saves the world from piccolo/kami who i evil. The end. Its not a complicated plot to produce a decent flick as Lord ThanosX said, you just can’t expect the audience to sit in a 7 hour movie while every little detail and adventure of DB is touched on.

I think for most people DB is a turn off is because they just don’t want to see it, or just weren’t enchanted by it, as it is with anything else. Plus as u said there are other animes that have the same gotta power up, and continually fight formula that they may be interested in more than DB.

ANTONIO says:

He leído, en muchas partes comentarios q la catalogan como, “lo peor q han visto”, en palabras suaves y tomando la gran mayoría de comentarios (xq hasta ahora solo se de uno q lo la denigra tanto)…
En fin, entendí el por q de ese trato… simplemente xq no sabían a lo q iban, creo esperaban ver a Goku de 14 años, con menos de un metro de estatura, gordo, con el cabello de un metro de largo y viviendo salvajemente…
A lo q yo me pregunto… en serio querían ver un Goku asi?… yo no… aunq vivo y siento Dragon Ball como mio, xq lo entiendo y entiendo a sus personajes, quizá como muy pocos o casi nadie lo hace, una adaptación de ese tipo, es simplemente un tremendo absurdo… y realmente una perdida de tiempo…
Yo, a diferencia de lo creo piensan los demás, sabia, completamente seguro a lo q iba, a lo q vería, a lo poco q me sorprendería tener en frente una pantalla q me muestre lo q por mas de dos años, religiosamente he seguido de una intensa manera…
Al principio, y me refiero, al principio de los rumores confirmados con imágenes y todo q empezaban a salir de la película, también, lo vi mal, también me disgusto el saber verlo asi a Goku y su historia… pero, tuve, mucho, mucho tiempo para seguirlo y poder entenderlo, con comentarios no solo míos, sino de los responsables de esta película, q mas q justificar, enseñaban, como se creaba nuevamente Dragon Ball…
Pensado fríamente, nadie, o por lo menos, nadie q yo conozca, o he conocido, es “digno” de interpretar un papel tan monumentalmente fuerte en todo sentido, como lo es Goku, y no solo el, sino de todos los personajes q tan detalladamente los creo Akira y sus colegas, si es q querían recrear la misma historia q se ha visto por 20 años, pero en el cine y con personas de carne y hueso…
Bueno, yendo al meollo del asunto, y términos generales, está película, supero lo q pensaba sería, lo q yo pensaba, no basándome en lo q los demás decían de ella, sino en todo lo q la he seguido…
Y creo es necesario, calificarla desde varios puntos, pero sin una generalización final, xq seria injusto hacerlo e injusto entenderlo…
Primero, la trama adaptada… me refiero a la historia q conocemos, pero dentro del cine, a lo tan fiel q es y lo muestran, a esta solo la puedo calificar sobre 5, xq era la máxima capacidad q podía hacerlo, pues no representa ni la mitad de la totalidad de esta, para mi, mas q una película de Dragon Ball, es una excelente película con muchos, muchos guiños de Dragon Ball q la hacen espectacular, y por eso, le pongo un 4 como dije, sobre 5 … menos el punto x la adaptación de Bulma, q no tiene relación con la q conocemos… (Pero luego voy con los personajes)
Segundo, la nueva historia, … la trama distinta q nos cuenta la película, su desarrollo en general, vista como una película más. Podria notar algunos detalles q no me terminaron de gustar, como el tiempo de duración de la misma, … para toda la historia q contaron, siquiera, tenían material para unas 4 o5 horas, con el fin de saberla desarrollarla… otra, la innecesaria relación q mantenía Milk, xq no se vivió como debería, no se dio ni siquiera un motivo por el cual era necesario q tuviera una… no tuvo fundamento crearla… y finalmente, la fuerza de Piccolo, … al principio se lo vendió como el “casi destructor de toda la existencia”… y aunq era una leyenda contada, lo demostró al hacer explotar una aldea completa sin esfuerzo… por ello, la pelea contra Goku, tuvo q haber sido más fuerte, con un Goku, q como decían no dominaba ni estaba listo para ni siquiera hacer el Kame Hame Ha, según la trama, le seria imposible, darle aunq sea pelea al Gran demonio Piccolo, sin embargo, su fuerza era, injustamente, demasiada parecida… (y aquí puede entrar el tema de la falta de tiempo para tanta historia) … Por ello, mi calificación es de 7 sobre 10…
Tercero, los efectos… cada película es distinta, hace lo necesario para mostrar según su historia los mejores efectos q le puedan servir, para q quede congruente con lo q cuenta, siendo asi, y tomando en cuenta q, como dije antes es una historia distinta, no la misma, y contada desde otro punto de vista, sobre 10 le doy el 10 … Sheng Long no es fiel, Las esferas no son fieles, los poderes tampoco lo son, pero para efectos de la historia, están perfectos, quizá pudieron ser mejores, pero no tengo quejas al respecto…
Cuarto, los personajes… los personajes de la película, los nuevos, los creados, los actores todo en conjunto y su relación con su representante animado…
Goku… Este fue el personaje q más me sorprendió, sinceramente esperaba menos del actor, pero me calló al verlo con su desarrollo, tanto como representante de una película, como los guiños q nos hace recordar a Goku y su verdadera historia… bien trabajado y falto de desarrollo por el tiempo, del q ya hable y es el factor más negativo q le puedo encontrar y arruino una buena historia…
Roshi… Excelente, el más fiel al original, aunq repito la intención no era copiarlos, sino adaptarlos, un muy buen desarrollo, fuerte y cómico, y algo necesitado de cariño, jajaja… muy muy bueno… me encanto…
Milk, para efectos de historia, estuvo bien, aunq, de nuevo pongo a consideración la innecesaria relación q tenia previo conocer a Goku… quizá demasiado “lanzada” y con pocos guiños de la original, pero estuvo bien… especialmente el final junto con Goku en el torneo…
Yamcha… Lo único negativo, aunq ni tan negativo, q puedo rescatar de este personaje, es q no luchara, es lo único q le hizo falta, pero… digo, no tan negativo xq desde el principio se lo vendió como bandido, y como bandido estuvo bien, asi q lo poco negativo es eso, q no peleo, o no le dieron la oportunidad de hacerlo… al personaje…
Bulma… El personaje q menos me llamo la atención, salvo el nombre, y cuando utilizó sus “encantos” para llamar la atención de Yamcha, no tiene relación con nuestra Bulma, dijo tener su doctorado, pero nunca lo demostró, jamás dio un buen motivo para disparar a alguien por la esfera q la robaron, además de meterse en una aventura q no le correspondía ni justifico, como personaje y como adaptación, fue completamente innecesario q supiera “pelear” o q fuera ruda, además de saber manejar las armas…
Mai… Actuó muy poco, no se pudo ver todo lo q era capaz, además de no justificar su forma de transformarse, ni xq solo clono a Milk, ni como supo de la existencia y aprendizaje junto con Roshi de Goku… le falto desarrollo… mucho desarrollo… y como adaptación, con muy poco parecido… salvo el físico de la actriz…
Gohan… Muy bien echo, ese era Gohan, aunq lo mezclaron con un poco de Sr. Miyagi… bien hecho, como personaje y como adaptación… me gusto mucho…
Piccolo… Bien, el maquillaje y la actitud q tenia, lo hizo perfecto… muy muy bien echo… lo negativo, es la fuerza q tenia… no demostró todo el potencial q podía dar… aunq era tan temido por quienes lo conocían… O Goku se hizo muy fuerte para pelear con Piccolo, pero jamás lo mostraron, o no respetaron la fuerza q dijeron tenia cuando inicio la película… no fueron constantes… y como adaptación, quede satisfecho, quizá un poco mas anciano hubiera quedado bien, pero como lo hicieron, pues no tengo mayor queja…
Fulums… Gran guiño, aunq innecesarios, pudieron haberles hecho más poderosos…
Ozharu… Me gusto q lo hayan incluido, y me gusto como se vio, pero se lo vio muy poco… (nuevamente el problema del tiempo) además de por lo menos ver una pelea con Piccolo donde si podían demostrar su poder, o una encrucijada más dramática entre Goku-Ozharu, y Ozharu-Goku… durante la transformación y el control del uno sobre el otro… (ah si… Ozauro???) …
Sheng Long… perfecto, para como se lo vendió durante la película, perfecto…

Bueno, por los y lo demás, referente a personajes y materiales usados, como el Nyoi-bo, la vestimenta, las esferas, el termo, los autos, los personajes secundarios… bien hasta cierto punto… hasta el punto q el tiempo de duración los dejó ser participes…
En resumen, bastante buena la película, bastante, como lo dije, es mucho mejor a como la imagine, y de seguro la veré varias veces más, y quedara como parte de la historia de Dragon Ball, parte de la buena historia de Dragon Ball… y sinceramente espero las secuelas… una felicitación y un gracias de parte de un consiente y muy fiel fan a todos quienes la hicieron posible…
Por lo pronto es lo q recuerdo iba a poner, y como lo publicare en varios sitios tal cual está, espero q alguien lo haya leído… Es lo q pienso, es como lo vi, es como lo viví…
Y nada, q viva Dragon Ball!!!…

SIN187UM says:

Que?

Harumi says:

@ Chuck

I had a feeling you would continue to insist on your ridiculous analogy, so let me explain to you this time why your analogy doesn’t work.

Let me summarize Jaws or 300:
Jaws: Shark eats people. People kill shark.
300: 300 people attempt to try to stop a whole army of Persians by blocking a pass in order to keep their freedom.

Let’s assume that the audience is a total ignoramus, and doesn’t know what Greeks, sharks, or Persians are. We all universally fear being eaten by something. It’s easy to translate that fear, and a shark could easily substitute for a monster. The idea of fighting for freedom is simple also, and there’s no need to get beyond the point of “guy with sword goes stabbity stabbity”.

Now let’s take Dragonball. There is a boy with a monkey tail, rides a flying cloud, and carries a stick that shrinks and lengthens at will. For the uninitiated all these things are, “wtf? why? huh?” There is no basis to figure out WHY such a character exists, not when no one else does anything that he does. And then you have a pig wearing a communist-like outfit. And a floating cat. A lecherous man wearing a turtle shell. Dinosaurs, mixed with a girl who carries technology way beyond our time. By themselves, each point is fine, but all together, it’s too much for any outsider to take. I’ve winced at far too many plot summaries of DB, because together, they all sound absolutely ridiculous. While the plot is a set pattern, the elements within it are simply too foreign, too bizarre.

Of course, there will be the few people who knew nothing and would enjoy it anyway, but it’s certainly not going to appeal to a broader audience.

A proper analogy would be showing something like Jesus: Superstar, or Dogma in Asia, which despite the many Christians, lacks the history of conflict and thinking that made both films work. I can guarantee that neither of those films would do well, especially the latter. It’s not the fault of the film, but there are so many cultural assumptions that would confuse the audience (and that’s for good films, which DBE was not). Even other things, such as Legally Blonde, which was so hugely popular in the US, fell flat in Japan. I showed it to my students and overall received blank faces. Again, cultural differences.

You keep arguing that people are able to not understand the background of anything and still enjoy a film. I’m arguing that this is true… to a point. Unfortunately DB is far beyond that point for the average American who wants to watch an action film. As I said again and again, DBE should have picked a target: either appeal to the fans, or try to reach out to a broader audience. The former could follow the storyline, the latter would need to be dumbed down. And that just isn’t possible with Dragonball.

T-Grave says:

@Harumi
I’m not questioning the fact 300 has less of a parallel than Journey to the West(or w/e it was called).

I was saying they shouldn’t have started with DBZ instead of DB just because of the fact people don’t know that story(which you stated, if I’m correct). There is no point in doing that because of that particular reason.
In Asian cultures it might make it easier to get people to watch dragonball since it will make it more interesting for them. And still that would mean making a movie about db instead of dbz would create more interest for the movie(since dbz does not resemble the asian story, and will/should be less intresting).
Of course the movie doesn’t resemble dragonball or the story at all so it doesn’t matter …

Chuck Peters says:

@Harumi

You still contradict yourself, because you even agree that its not necessary to to have to know the whole back story to understand or enjoy a film.

Harumi April 12, 2009

“There was no complicated plot. Dragonball has a complicated plot, or it should have,…………You don’t have to know the whole background of something,…………”

I think the reason I dont see your point is because it appears layered with with fanboyism. Is your point ultimately that the movie fails??? Sorry but the DB plot is not that difficult to understand to make a movie about that doesnt fail. Seems like you’re starting to get upset for no reason other than I dont agree with you (hence the attempt to try and belittle).

Anti-FANBOY says:

Well aside from the layers of fail topped with fail frosting that is this movie, I think it served the purpose of the back story. Probably if the live action started off in DBZ there would be short and choppy flash backs, and people would still be confused. Sorry Harumi but your point is hard to see aside from that the movie fails. Those analogies the other guy stated appeared to make sense. I also to agree that after seeing this film that the plot to make a better DragonBall movie based off of DragonBall does not appear complicated.

gingerbeer says:

I finally got around to watching it, and even after going into the cinema with the bare minimum of expectations, i have to say this is one of the worst films I’ve ever seen on the big screen. I Just went to see it because i like many others grew up watching Dragonball Z….. Just like i grew up watching transformers, Thundercats, Ninja turtles etc…..

I’ll admit i don’t know much of the Dragonball story, growing up on Dragonball Z, but there was enough flashbacks in Z to give you a basic idea of goku’s childhood. This isn’t really my point. What I’m trying to say is that if your gonna do something do it to the best of your abilities.

And on every level this was a half arsed attempt at making a film, seriously i mean this is there job and your meant to take pride in your work. But i don’t think these guys even sat down and watched the shows, They should of been given the entire DB collection told to go home and study it.

If they did that then as soon as Justin chatwin was mentioned they would of laughed and said “next” Amongst other things he was probably one of the worst castings I’ve ever seen. Chatwin is not goku in any shape or form, and as i sat there watching DB he literally got worse as the film went on, he grew out of the character.

Like i said they didn’t even try, to make a good film, there was so much missing, The music & sound effects, there was none, watch an episode, DB, it has iconic music and sound effects, the ka me ha me ha sound, as iconic as a lightsaber, which would of been easy to translate, No world martial arts tournament(well not from what i saw) no nimbus (cloud), no krillin, no Tein, no spirit road (goku did die remember) the capsule corporation was cack, that was some run down bike.

In all honesty it was like they tried too hard with the special effects, the kah me hah me hah, is more like a perfect ball of energy, not a vapour cloud.Common this is 2009 balls of energy and nuclear esqe explosions are not that hard, you can get that on a tv show! Jesus the Ozarooo (ape) is meant to be like 5 stories high not actually a man in prostetics. Piccolo not King piccolo, WTF at least put him in his original fighting outfit. At least try and give him a similar voice.

And the end of the day i wasn’t expecting much and would of given them a pass if they made some form of effort. Look at Watchmen not a lot of people knew about that, but they made a good film, i mean i didn’t actually feel it, but i appreciate, the work that went into it and as such went to see the movie twice bringing a friend. Should of given it to those guys

Overall this is a major dissapointment because DB had the potential to be one of the biggest sagas ever but now it’s put this in the same class as Streetfighter the movie and Fist of the north star….

James Wong and the writers should be ashamed of themselves.

T-Grave says:

“growing up on Dragonball Z, but there was enough flashbacks in Z to give you a basic idea of goku’s childhood”

As a matter of fact you really don’t, the flashbacks are to basic, because I thought the same before I watched DB and saw it as an argument to not watch it, but after I watched the first episode of db, I already noticed those flashbacks mean nothing …

Bane says:

A ‘fanboy’ if you will, I actually refused to support FOX’s adaptation of the series. So I bought a ticket to F&F and went to Dragonball (hahaha). I cringed throughout the entire film.

DB could definitely be a great movie series if done correctly. I agree that the equivalent of this flick would be trying to squeeze the first 4 Harry Potter films together into one 75 minute movie.

@Ross

I LOVE the review! =) But obviously not EVERYONE will have heard of Dragonball before this film. It depends on the generation. I don’t expect many 30+ year old fellow Americans to be huge fans of Dragonball, they would be more likely to be older ‘fanmans’ of Transformers or Thundercats. Just because your circle of friends aren’t familiar with the series, doesn’t mean it doesn’t have THAT MUCH of a fan base.

John "Kahless" Taylor says:

**** SPOILERS AHEAD ****

I can live with some of the changes (Piccolo’s uniform, Master Roshi not being bald, no animal-human hybrids, even Yamcha having blond hair) but some of the changes were just awful. Oozaru should have been much larger and not the slave of Piccolo. Come on! Piccolo used Oozaru 2000 years ago and Goku is suppose to have been a baby when Gohan found him. For those who saw the film, did Gohan look 2000 years old to you? Also, Yamcha is some type of thief without martial arts ability. I really can’t blame Chatwin for this failure, I blame the director.

T-Grave says:

@John
I completely agree with you.
What frustrates me the most about the movie is how they didn’t pay ANY attention to he little details that make dragonball so unique and original.
The sky should’ve turned completely black, the dragon should have been the biggest thing ever seen, the way the dragon made its appearance, oozaru should’ve been HUGE, and outrageous, in other words, not obeying to some random guy and ignore the ones he loves(wtf?). And so much more little things(and bigger things) that would have made the movie so much better and interesting. And NONE of these things is to blame to the actors, but to the director.
I’m really wondering what they were thinking hiring someone who clearly doesn’t know a THING about dragonball.

SIN187UM says:

@Kahless

No one is putting all the blame on Chatwin, but his performance as Goku sucked. There was nothing to make any one feel as if he was Goku aside from the failed spiked hair. Even his being a clue dart was a fail. The only people I don’t blame is Ernie Hudson and Chow Yun Fat. The Oozaru thing probably had to do with reincarnation or something like that. You know how it goes in some movies, the evil wizard knows that the hero is linked to some demon or beast that they controlled for evil, and then get the transformation to occur.

T-Grave says:

@Sin

True, but I think the bad performance is linked to bad directing in the first place, because the director should be the one saying how chatwin should behave in his role as Goku.

SIN187UM says:

@T-Grave

I agree with you on that. Still Chatwin just doesn’t have the acting strength to play Goku. I mean come on at least Chow Yun Fat was somewhat believable as a version of Roshi even if he was reading a fail script and directed towards failure.

John "Kahless" Taylor says:

@Sin
When I first saw that Chatwin was going to be Goku, I wanted to hunt down the idiot who made that decision. But watching the movie, I understand what the director was trying to do, make Goku a type of Clark Kent with a super secret. If they are going to do a DBZ, I would hope they get a more muscular/cut actor. In the end, the director is the one responsible for how the character is represented. I’m not a Justin Chatwin fan but I think he did what the director told him to do.

Rakesh says:

What a lousy film, this is seriously a bad film.

T-Grave says:

I think one of the main reasons they chose for Chatwin is because of his facial characteristics. I don’t know any other actors that have that same resemblance with Goku. And no he’s not all buffed up, but Goku wasn’t buffed up either in Dragonball(if you’ve seen the last saga where he is a teenager, he’s quite skinny).

SIN187UM says:

Chatwin and the film still FAIL.

Syncopath says:

The movie could have been better, for me they only concentrated in creating a dragon ball movie.. its like they just made the movie because they know that a dragon ball movie will be catchy and intriguing. They did do the movie because they want to make a great movie, a movie to be remembered. They just did it for money.

The movie was all compressed in just one and a half hours therefore making the story quite lame and the narration was so bad. The movie was so fast phased. They didn’t tell the story of Goku in an entertaining manner..the movie just gave me a taste of every thing. A little comedy, a little action, a little love story. JUST A LITTLE!! In addition, the story line was greatly changed and fight scenes were boring and lacks excitement. i don’t really know why it ended up this way, maybe they have no budget.. i don’t really know. If it where a movie with a different title i would give it 6/10 but for it to be titled “DRAGON BALL”, its score would be 3/10.

evans says:

ok, couple of things, this new movie is like all the other comic book/ video game/ cartoon shows turned movie. Why people never stick to the original script kills me. another thing is this, there are way more people in asia then america, and yes, Goku and his homies have a bigger fan base than Optimus and his. The transformers movie sucked just like this one, just had Shia Lebeauf and Optimus prime who looked closer to his cartoon form than Goku. and right now, for all those out of the loop, naruto is getting a bigger fan base than both, they may be classics to us, but they are also the stepping stone to greater things when used properly. To all the director and script writers reading, sometimes you just gotta stick to the script that you already have.

Boyo says:

I can’t believe they did such a bad movie. I really can’t. Dragon Ball is a great franchise and they could have made (very easily) a lot of money on a 2D animation with probably half the budget they spent here. But no, they had to do pretty much the worst movie ever (even if you’re not a dragon ball fan.) As a Dragon Ball fan, it’s even worse than the worst movie ever cause it ruins the original story which is very funny in the beginning. I would REALLY love to talk to the people who made the movie (director and writer) cause I can’t believe they really thought it was okay. They really believe the public is stupid and is gonna be amazed by CHEAP visual effects that aren’t even innovative (the transformation of the capsule into a bike is very used recently in ads), the KI effect is used anytime Hollywood want to make obvious that there is “energy” somewhere. It’s horrible. I can’t believe it. I went to see this thinking it was gonna be awful but I could laugh at its awfulness. It’s just impossible, it seems like an insult. No one in the theater was serious, everybody was laughing at the movie, criticizing it etc.
Sorry for my english, i’m french!

river says:

well…I got my own head sleep in theater while movie played. And hope next of this movie sequel “if” they gonna remake it, to have a good Dragonball the movie…

Thischarmingsam says:

One change to the original material is one change too many,the Suck-to-Win ratio of comic book films is far too high.

The difference between films like this and say, Batman, is that the way we (the fanboys) imagine how we would have directed it etc. is a million miles away from the mass-market-friendly viewpoint the studios have. Batman only had one viable route to take (grittier etc.) which was exactly what the fanboys had in mind but also what the mainstream consciousness expected of batman = great success.

The points that ruin the films for me were when they very obviously switch emphasis from one age-group to another e.g. Optimus Prime hiding outside Sam’s house – cringeworthy.

Through reading/watching/growing up with these very well-defined characters we create our own unique bond with them, as well as a very stylized image in our head of how they would look/behave in person (e.g. when playing with their toys as a child – lets not forget the role of imagination in all of this!) Which is exactly what they are designed to do.

Millions of people with similar, but not identical, expectations cannot all be satisfied at once, so compromise is reached at the expense of the fans at the hands of the toy-purchasing younger populous.

I’m a big DB AND Transformers fan and i think they both stank, studios try to cater for all audiences when making these films to get the most $$$ and ultimately leave hardcore fans out in the cold.

I’m available for psycho-analysis, kids parties…

JamesWC says:

This moveie wasn’t the worst thing I’ve seen in the last year. As for the dialogue, Dragonball Z always had bad dialogue. Further more, every storyline in the anime series was the same. How it lasted as a series as long as it has is amazing.

menga says:

Just saw it….. WTF!?!?!?!? I remember watching an interview with Justin Chatwin and Emmy Rossum before the movie came out saying the movie NOT a Dragonball film. However, may I just say…. WHY USE THE WORD DRAGONBALL in the title? Why name the main characters the same as the manga/anime if it’s not even lightly based on the “Dragon Ball” Series’. This film could have been GREAT!!! I wasn’t too upset with the actors and even the visual changes in their character. The most upsetting part of the film was the storyline changes. Yes, Goku and Chi Chi were older and in High School, Yamcha was A LOT older and blonde, Bulma didn’t have blue hair, Roshi wasn’t bald and as much of a perv as in the manga/anime… THERE WAS NO KRILLIN!!!, and Piccolo was totally different looking. BUT why did Piccolo have a woman do all his bidding when Piccolo is a solo act? Also, why did they say that Oozaru was Piccolo’s partner in crime 2000 years ago when Goku was shipped to Earth only 18 years prior? First of all, Saiyans are not that old of a race to ship one of their own to Earth so long ago. Second of all, Goku would have been able to turn into Oozaru on every full moon of his life (as long as he had a tail, which was nowhere to be seen in the movie), and Piccolo wouldn’t have been able to control him… (It was almost like Underworld with the Vampires controlling the Lycans… pshh). Finally, Piccolo would have spit out an egg at the end when he was defeated, forming a “good” Kame/God and “evil” Piccolo. Overall, I thought the acting was cheesy as is most of the dialogue in the manga/anime which was ok, and the visual effects were disappointing but after all it was only Dragonball… the visuals don’t pick up that much till Dragon Ball Z anyway.

I think if another movie was made I would give it a shot, but only if the directors and script writers correct the storyline.

pffft says:

even the fans of the original dragon ball hate this film…

Ben says:

I don’t know how anyone involved with this film sleeps at night
every aspect of this piece of crap movie was horrendous
script/storyline/music/effects/casting/costume/acting were all disgustingly cringeworthy
i hope that this movie gets forgotten quickly so that a proper attempt may be made at completing a successful dragonball film in this future

marcus says:

i….. i dont know wat to say except that that waz the worst movie ever like wat the hell it made me so fustrated i wanted to beat the crap out of the producers i really did i am a diehard dragon ballz fan i have read the whole manga i know every fight every battle every near to death expereince that happended this movie got every thing wrong like did the producers actually watch the t.v show or at least read it? if they did then wat the hell happended yes i realize that not evey thing could have been correct they are turning a animation into a movie but they could have at least tried like for example they could have made the great ape transformation correct saiyans transform when there are a full moon as long as they have a tail they dont need a.wtf? an chi-chi should not have been a real impt charachter at the time, piccolo should have come during the budakia, there waz no budakia, krillin waz not in there,all the unnessarry hand movementz, to me it waz more like a lame kung-fu movie not drangonballz,

TheREALGoku says:

This movie was a complete fail. It had nothing to do with DragonBall, except for sharing the same name. The script should have been thrown out and the casting was terrible.

Let me make another important point: Goku is NOT a white guy! I don’t buy the “he’s an alien” copout either; since aliens in the DragonBall universe ARE Asian. DragonBall is an Asian genre cartoon. Hence, the charaters have Asian names, eat Asian food, wear Asian clothing, etc… No one ever mistakes Superman for being anything other than white; and he’s an alien.

So, yeah, the film sucked big time with White Goku.

elrey908 says:

ok so i just watched the movie..it was really bad. when i went on the bonus features and saw the gag reel i thought it was going to show me the whole movie

Tweeb says:

wow. i was thinking about renting it for my 15 yo but i guess not…

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