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	<title>Comments on: Dollhouse Season 2 Premiere &#8211; Ratings &amp; Discussion</title>
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		<title>By: FOX To Air All 13 Episodes of Dollhouse - Screen Rant</title>
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		<dc:creator>FOX To Air All 13 Episodes of Dollhouse - Screen Rant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the news of the Dollhouse premiere underperforming in the ratings and the abrupt cancellation of fan favorite shows like Southland, I&#8217;ve been watching my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: CeCe</title>
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		<dc:creator>CeCe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just watched the season 2 episode 1 last night (it was recorded) and I was so glad to see this discussion going on because I wanted so badly to talk to someone about it.  

I watched all of Dollhouse season 1 and REALLY liked it, but even I was confused by season 2.  I agree that a show with an arching story makes more interest for the continuouse viewer, but when the arching storyline has fractured into subplots and focuses on individual character&#039;s agendas for the majority of an episode it is just too confusing.  I enjoyed the last 15 minutes of the show this seasons premiere.  

At the very least they should have started the show with recap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just watched the season 2 episode 1 last night (it was recorded) and I was so glad to see this discussion going on because I wanted so badly to talk to someone about it.  </p>
<p>I watched all of Dollhouse season 1 and REALLY liked it, but even I was confused by season 2.  I agree that a show with an arching story makes more interest for the continuouse viewer, but when the arching storyline has fractured into subplots and focuses on individual character&#8217;s agendas for the majority of an episode it is just too confusing.  I enjoyed the last 15 minutes of the show this seasons premiere.  </p>
<p>At the very least they should have started the show with recap.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshi (work)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshi (work)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@CW

Family Guy was brought back, as well as Futurama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@CW</p>
<p>Family Guy was brought back, as well as Futurama.</p>
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		<title>By: CW</title>
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		<dc:creator>CW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do I start this how about Fire Fly, Futerama,Family Guy once or twice, the Sarah Connor Chron. I&#039;M DONE WITH YOU FOX!!! WHO EVER IS IN CHARGE OVER THERE NEEDS TO BE FIRED,and I liked Dollhouse but there is no way I&#039;ll let you drag me in just so you can shut the show down mid stream and leave me hanging once again wondering why I even botherd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do I start this how about Fire Fly, Futerama,Family Guy once or twice, the Sarah Connor Chron. I&#8217;M DONE WITH YOU FOX!!! WHO EVER IS IN CHARGE OVER THERE NEEDS TO BE FIRED,and I liked Dollhouse but there is no way I&#8217;ll let you drag me in just so you can shut the show down mid stream and leave me hanging once again wondering why I even botherd.</p>
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		<title>By: Lorraine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lorraine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I hear right?  In the premiere of Season Two, did Echo say &quot;walking in these fu..ing stiletto heels...&quot; when getting her feet massaged?

I DVR&#039;d it and played it for friends and we all agreed we heard the same thing.  In Michigan, Dollhouse comes on at 9:00 p.m. on FOX and we were very surprised to hear the &#039;F&#039; bomb to say the least.

Folks talked about SNL and the F word but that comes on after 11:00 p.m.  While not prudes, I do have tweeners who watch the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I hear right?  In the premiere of Season Two, did Echo say &#8220;walking in these fu..ing stiletto heels&#8230;&#8221; when getting her feet massaged?</p>
<p>I DVR&#8217;d it and played it for friends and we all agreed we heard the same thing.  In Michigan, Dollhouse comes on at 9:00 p.m. on FOX and we were very surprised to hear the &#8216;F&#8217; bomb to say the least.</p>
<p>Folks talked about SNL and the F word but that comes on after 11:00 p.m.  While not prudes, I do have tweeners who watch the show.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was already a few drinks in when I started watching, but I did enjoy it. I need to watch it again on my DVR. I loved seeing Jamie Bamber. Missed him since BSG and had never gotten to hear him speak in his true accent. That was fun! The episode was a bit fractured, but I love a show that you have to know well to watch. Makes it feel more special.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was already a few drinks in when I started watching, but I did enjoy it. I need to watch it again on my DVR. I loved seeing Jamie Bamber. Missed him since BSG and had never gotten to hear him speak in his true accent. That was fun! The episode was a bit fractured, but I love a show that you have to know well to watch. Makes it feel more special.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this episode was great! It started off kinda confusing, but it quickly picked up. Of course you can&#039;t start watching this show from season 2. Just like Lost, if you were to start at season 2 you would be LOST! Maybe DollHouse could have had a quick recap, but its not a big deal. And I only watched this on Hulu, not when it premiered on TV. I hate FOX forever, biggest reason for CANCELING FIREFLY! &gt;:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this episode was great! It started off kinda confusing, but it quickly picked up. Of course you can&#8217;t start watching this show from season 2. Just like Lost, if you were to start at season 2 you would be LOST! Maybe DollHouse could have had a quick recap, but its not a big deal. And I only watched this on Hulu, not when it premiered on TV. I hate FOX forever, biggest reason for CANCELING FIREFLY! &gt;:(</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Vic,
I got a new computer and that is the second email I have accidentally ssent
Growing Pains LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Vic,<br />
I got a new computer and that is the second email I have accidentally ssent<br />
Growing Pains LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Kees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Kees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Gwen

How do you find this show sexist?  It&#039;s strongest characters are Dr. Saunders and Sierra, who are bot females.  And Echo (also female) is the one that&#039;s leading the charge to save everyone.  Plus, it&#039;s from Joss Whedon.  He created another television show called &quot;Buffy the Vampire Slayer&quot; and the strong hero was a woman.  If you look at his stuff you can tell Joss is not sexist in the slightest.  He always develops strong female characters, and he may use situations that are sexist to strengthen his character.  To survive the pain, one must be strong.  To adapt and overcome.  That&#039;s what Joss is doing with those things.

In discussion about the episode, I think it&#039;s okay to follow.  I mean, all you really need to do is read up on the first season and you should be all right.  Not as good, but you&#039;d understand why the doctor is all of the sudden sitting in Topher&#039;s bed.  To what the story is really about, Echo saving everyone in the Dollhouse, not a lot was put into it.  And that&#039;s fine, you set up the character, the setting and situation and go from there.  At the end, Echo said she wanted to save everyone.  All we need to know going forward.  With that part alone, all of season one become almost irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Gwen</p>
<p>How do you find this show sexist?  It&#8217;s strongest characters are Dr. Saunders and Sierra, who are bot females.  And Echo (also female) is the one that&#8217;s leading the charge to save everyone.  Plus, it&#8217;s from Joss Whedon.  He created another television show called &#8220;Buffy the Vampire Slayer&#8221; and the strong hero was a woman.  If you look at his stuff you can tell Joss is not sexist in the slightest.  He always develops strong female characters, and he may use situations that are sexist to strengthen his character.  To survive the pain, one must be strong.  To adapt and overcome.  That&#8217;s what Joss is doing with those things.</p>
<p>In discussion about the episode, I think it&#8217;s okay to follow.  I mean, all you really need to do is read up on the first season and you should be all right.  Not as good, but you&#8217;d understand why the doctor is all of the sudden sitting in Topher&#8217;s bed.  To what the story is really about, Echo saving everyone in the Dollhouse, not a lot was put into it.  And that&#8217;s fine, you set up the character, the setting and situation and go from there.  At the end, Echo said she wanted to save everyone.  All we need to know going forward.  With that part alone, all of season one become almost irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:04:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this show but I almost gave up on it during the first half of season one.  I&#039;m glad I stuck with it but I&#039;m sure I&#039;m going to have to deal with losing Dollhouse to cancellation very soon.  The ratings are just too low.  Its a shame too.  I think putting this show on Friday nights was a mistake.  Your target audience is not at home watching TV on a Friday night.  Thats proven in the high DVR numbers (from season one).  Unfortunately you can&#039;t sell advertising time based on the DVR ratings since people just skip the commercials.  I bet they&#039;ve already decided what show they want to replace Dollhouse with come January. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this show but I almost gave up on it during the first half of season one.  I&#8217;m glad I stuck with it but I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m going to have to deal with losing Dollhouse to cancellation very soon.  The ratings are just too low.  Its a shame too.  I think putting this show on Friday nights was a mistake.  Your target audience is not at home watching TV on a Friday night.  Thats proven in the high DVR numbers (from season one).  Unfortunately you can&#8217;t sell advertising time based on the DVR ratings since people just skip the commercials.  I bet they&#8217;ve already decided what show they want to replace Dollhouse with come January. <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a woman, I find the show to be extremely sexist and offensive. If you want to compound that issue by calling me narrowminded, go right ahead. It&#039;s what&#039;s been done to women basically forever, after all. It won&#039;t change my opinion, and it won&#039;t make me stop smiling every time this hateful show crashes and burns with horrible ratings, poor DVD sales, and rampant cancellation rumors that will (hopefully VERY soon) come true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a woman, I find the show to be extremely sexist and offensive. If you want to compound that issue by calling me narrowminded, go right ahead. It&#8217;s what&#8217;s been done to women basically forever, after all. It won&#8217;t change my opinion, and it won&#8217;t make me stop smiling every time this hateful show crashes and burns with horrible ratings, poor DVD sales, and rampant cancellation rumors that will (hopefully VERY soon) come true.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm. good point.</description>
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		<title>By: Joshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah, I don&#039;t doubt it

Even still, someone from Fox coming to the comment boards of a film website... nope, can&#039;t imagine it, that would suggest they listen to fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah, I don&#8217;t doubt it</p>
<p>Even still, someone from Fox coming to the comment boards of a film website&#8230; nope, can&#8217;t imagine it, that would suggest they listen to fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Simmons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Simmons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joshi:  Probably not, but you&#039;d be surprised who does visit Screen Rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joshi:  Probably not, but you&#8217;d be surprised who does visit Screen Rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved Buffy, Angel, and Firefly; that said, I have a hard time with Dollhouse.  I still have the last 2 episodes in my TiVo to watch from last season.  I just can&#039;t bring myself to watch.  The TiVo is set for this year.  Will I watch them or delete them unseen?  Jury is still out.  Adore Joss Whedon&#039;s humor and symbolism but didn&#039;t see much of it in the entire season of Dollhouse last season.  It was dark, unpleasant, and just plain silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved Buffy, Angel, and Firefly; that said, I have a hard time with Dollhouse.  I still have the last 2 episodes in my TiVo to watch from last season.  I just can&#8217;t bring myself to watch.  The TiVo is set for this year.  Will I watch them or delete them unseen?  Jury is still out.  Adore Joss Whedon&#8217;s humor and symbolism but didn&#8217;t see much of it in the entire season of Dollhouse last season.  It was dark, unpleasant, and just plain silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mattdubz

Fox doesn&#039;t read this you know...</description>
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<p>Fox doesn&#8217;t read this you know&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mattdubz</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattdubz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CLEARLY BRING BACK TSCC AND GET THIS GARBAGE OFF THE AIR.  FOX YOU MESSED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CLEARLY BRING BACK TSCC AND GET THIS GARBAGE OFF THE AIR.  FOX YOU MESSED UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 19:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the first episode of season two is huge for the dollhouse. From the first minutes of the episode it was clear to me that it was finally coming into its own. Joss Whedon has completely changed the construction of the show and has reassigned characters to new parts of the story. I was worried that they second season would just be more of the same, but I now have high hopes of a great story!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the first episode of season two is huge for the dollhouse. From the first minutes of the episode it was clear to me that it was finally coming into its own. Joss Whedon has completely changed the construction of the show and has reassigned characters to new parts of the story. I was worried that they second season would just be more of the same, but I now have high hopes of a great story!</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Constantly trying to like this show is tiring, for the soul.  Every time I&#039;ve tried, I&#039;ve felt confused or a little disappointed or both.  

TSCC never failed to deliver on the human side, and honestly had a better premise and was so much more accessible. 

I say fox should dump its two best shows, and show TSCC from 8:30 to 9:30, against office and parks and recreation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Constantly trying to like this show is tiring, for the soul.  Every time I&#8217;ve tried, I&#8217;ve felt confused or a little disappointed or both.  </p>
<p>TSCC never failed to deliver on the human side, and honestly had a better premise and was so much more accessible. </p>
<p>I say fox should dump its two best shows, and show TSCC from 8:30 to 9:30, against office and parks and recreation.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce,
Not yet.
Isnt it only available on the DVD?
I watched the premiere and the one thing  that kept me from turning the channel was Jamie Bambers performance.  
I totally BELIEVED he loved her.
I think it was a real  mistake not to show us  at least one  flashback to show us where that depth of feeling comes from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce,<br />
Not yet.<br />
Isnt it only available on the DVD?<br />
I watched the premiere and the one thing  that kept me from turning the channel was Jamie Bambers performance.<br />
I totally BELIEVED he loved her.<br />
I think it was a real  mistake not to show us  at least one  flashback to show us where that depth of feeling comes from.</p>
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