‘Divergent’ – SR Underground Ep. 136

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The Screen Rant editorial team is back with episode one-hundred thirty-six of the Screen Rant Underground podcast.

Join host Ben Kendrick, fellow SR editors Rob Keyes, Anthony Ocasio, and Kofi Outlaw as we review the Divergent movie adaptation, discuss new Avengers 2 story details, our hopes for The Incredibles 2, and the possibility of a Game of Thrones movie.

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Screen Rant Underground: Episode 136 – Divergent

We review Divergent, discuss new Avengers 2 details, our hopes for The Incredibles 2, and the possibility of a Game of Thrones movie.

[0:00] News: ‘Game of Thrones’ Author George R.R. Martin Says That Movies Are a Possibility, ‘The Incredibles 2′ is Moving Forward; ‘Cars 3′ in Development, and First Look At Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch & Hulkbuster Designs in ‘The Avengers 2′.

[1:01:49] Rants and Raves: Jackass Presents Bad Grandpa, Frozen, Real Husbands of Hollywood, Star Wars: The Clone Wars, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 preview, Veronica Mars, and Muppets Most Wanted.

[1:39:22] Review: Divergent (read our full written Divergent review).

[2:13:53]  SPOILERS Discussion: Divergent.

[2:30:22] Twitter Handles and Contact Information.

[2:31:49] Game Rant News Brief.

Hosts: Ben Kendrick, Rob Keyes, Anthony Ocasio, and Kofi Outlaw.



Next Week: Noah

Last Week’s Official Box Office Battle Reader Winner (Need for Speed opening): Sal reports that PeterGecko won with a score of 9.

Opening in theaters this week (Wide):

  • Cesar Chavez - 600
  • Noah - 3,400
  • Sabotage (2014) - 2,400-2,500

Opening this Week in Theaters (Limited):

  • Bad Words – Nationwide Expansion

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  1. Can’t wait to listen! Will you guys be doing a video for the new Days of Future Past trailer, by chance?

    • We talked about it but there was just too much going on this week for us to commit to it.

  2. Love the podcast! Fantastic way to kick the week off.

  3. George R.R. Martin simply needs to let another author finish the series for him. Robert Jordan passed away from a disease before he could finish his ultra-massive 14 book fantasy series, The Wheel of Time. An up-and-coming author named Brandon Sanderson did a fantastic job finishing up the last three books based on Robert Jordan’s notes and dictations. Now Brandon Sanderson is writing his own New York Times #1 selling fantasy books. An author finishing Mr. Martin’s books would have the benefit of the original author still being alive and OKing his/her drafts.

  4. Box Office Battle
    1 Noah
    2 Divergent
    3 Muppets Most Wanted
    4 Mr. Peabody & Sherman
    5 God’s Not Dead
    10 Sabotage

  5. I may be misremembering, but I’m pretty sure the next two books will not be longer than the previous ones. I believe this is a mistake that came from him saying it would be 1500 manuscript pages, and people assumed that meant 1500 actual book pages. I believe he’s said that in terms of actual book pages, they would be about the same length of Storm of Swords. Again, may be misremembering, but I think that’s what he said.

    • Also, it’s the silliest thing and I’m not legitimately complaining about it, but for some reason it really annoys me when people call it ”A song of Fire and Ice”

      • Fire and Ice, Ice and Fire. Who cares? At least they are not calling the entire book series “Game of Thrones.” That actually bothers me more.

        • I know, that’s why I said I wasn’t really complaining, it just sounds weird to me. Actually, calling it “Game of Thrones” doesn’t really bother me. I call it “Game of Thrones” myself when I’m talking to someone who isn’t really familiar with it. If I call ASOIAF, they have no idea what I’m talking about and think that it sounds weird. If I say GOT, they’ve usually at least heard of it and vagualy know what it is.

  6. #1 Noah
    #2 Divergent
    #3 Muppets Most Wanted
    #4 Sabotage
    #5 Mr. Peabody & Sherman
    #10 God’s Not Dead

  7. I think you can criticize a premise as being weak or dumb, and when a studio is putting money into making a film on that story with that premise, it calls for criticizing that premise. Superheroes had to endure all that criticism with all the pseudoscience corny origins such as radiation begetting powers, and adapted to being more and more believable.
    I think its different for fantasy, fantasy can be exempt from critique on premise because you are intentionally diverging from reality aka-magic
    This is why Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters is not the same

    but divergent is trying to be a societal and science fiction film and to think the powers that be would do something as cartoonish as separate people into arbitrary types which dont even make sense since and that people would go for that, because that is inherently flawed, even is the story is about that being flawed, then what was the point, the premise was dumb, not interesting and intentionally flawed for the story show that, so what is the point. This isnt like Pacific Rim because the point of Pacific Rim(a meta point that is) is to see giant robots fight giant monsters, it is stupid that they didnt build lots of guns on the seaside but instead you still get to see something cool, fantastical and interesting you never get to see.

    Whereas divergent doesnt present anything interesting to see like superhero battles or epic quests involving dragons and monsters and its point is weak and been done better in other stories about societal injustice or even…believing in yourself and your qualities.

    So all it is, is just a female teen drama and romance and if it doesnt do that well, and isnt interesting on that front, then a already possibly bad film is even worse.

  8. You guys see the aaron taylor-johnson as quicksilver, whats ups with his face, all the make-up and facial hair with the white long hair, looks clownish, was hoping he’d look more like the art like olsen does.

    • Yeap – Getty Images has like a hundred set photos up. My only guess is that the hair and makeup are for when they do his speed effects, so it’s clearer.

  9. 1. Divergent
    2. Noah
    3. Sabotage
    4. Muppets Most Wanted
    5. Mr. Peabody & Sherman
    10. Non-Stop

  10. Noah
    Bad words
    Non stop

  11. Yes, another great podcast everyone! I love the ‘celebrity gossip,’ and the heated debate about ‘attacking a movies premise,’ was wonderful. My wife and I listen to this podcast together on our date night, and she laughed so hard when you guys mentioned how hot actor Theo James is, and comment “Super Virgin”! Thank you guys for a great laugh, we’ll both going to wait for ‘Divergent,’ to come out to watch on Netflix.

  12. Was there ever any explanation for why the lake had dried up? either in the movie or the book? At the beginning of the movie as it panned over the decrepit boats and the dried up pier, I was thinking “what happened to all the water?” and I never picked up on a reason for that…

  13. @Kofi

    Huge Star Wars fan but never gave Clone Wars a chance for the same reason you did. But I love it now that I started. It gets better as you go along. Definitely stick with it. Season 4 so far.

    Gives some good OT characters to show up. Tarkin, Ackbar, and Chewbacca. As well as young Boba, and Darth Maul comes back.

  14. You guys go ahead and read the books and let me know if the third one is “complex” enough for it’s inevitable breaking into 2 films :-P

  15. 1- Noah
    2- Divergent
    3- Muppets
    4- Sabotage
    5- Mr Peabody and Sherman

    10- Ceaser Chavez

  16. I’m so happy to hear that Marc Webb is using those creative flourishes of his to fully realize the characters’ abilities on screen. For years I have been reading about how the action was alright from the Raimi movies but not the characterization. Then I’d see movies like Watchmen and Kick Ass where the visual action was so much more inspiring, even though the movies were based on characters with no actual super powers, and leave wanting more for Spider-man (action wise). To have that to look forward to in addition to the much talked about improved characterization is wonderful.

  17. Minor spoilers for future Divergent-movies.
    I realize Im a bit late on this one, but the actual reason for why they put people in factions like they do in this movie, and the logic behind it is explained in the third book. You dont think too much about it when you read the books, because youre inside the main characters head, so when the reveal comes later in the story, it makes sense and fits. I think maybe they should have alluded to the fact that there is something else going on that makes it easier for the people to choose factions in the movie. The way they did it now made it seem more shallow than at least the source material is.