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  • blooducky
    i didn't know devastator was in it??!! thats cool.......upgrades are awsome
  • Jared
    re: "...Devastator IS in it! He's the tank."

    Ren, Sorry to hear that you're STILL confused. Granted, there were more than a few screw-ups on Bay's part in the sequel, but this was not one of them. Devastator is NOT the tank. The tank IS Brawl, as he was supposed to be in the first movie. They didn't make that mistake again in the second movie (just all new mistakes). Just to clear it up for you: Tank = Brawl. Constucticons = Devastator. There was no confusion about that in the sequel, so go with it.

    On that note, Devastator sucked! Um, no pun intended. He had such a good lead-in with the constructicons sitting there in their vehicle forms in the quarry, but then they joined, and he couldn't seem to stand up! WTH! I was expecting him to rise up hundreds of feet tall, but all he did was kinda crouch like some knee-down amputee. But then, keep in mind that Prime obliterated a Decepticon early on in the sequel that looked like Scavenger, and also beheaded Bonecrusher in the first movie. So maybe Devastator wasn't complete after all. That would explain why he couldn't stand up.

    The special effects were great as usual, but the story, continuity, and character development were really disappointing. But that's Bay for you.
  • Ren
    If you watch the first movie, you'll notice that Devastator IS in it! He's the tank. That's what confused me when I saw the second movie because the big guy sucking everything in is ALSO Devastator! I thought that was a big hole in the storyline. Either way, they're still great action flicks with all the toys!!!
  • YoyoyoyoNick
    the devastator was only created to deyrtoy the pryamid to show the device the deaystroys the sun , that was his only job
  • Sheepinatorz
    who cares if devastator looks the same? its a darn good movie, even tho his face looked f**ked up...
  • coinages
    Well, I liked them both. But then again, I’m a chick. What do we know?

    I was a huge fan of Transformers, Volton and GI Joe when I was a little girl. I’m tickled pink (no pun intended) that these shows are being brought back in a way that my tech. advanced 8 year old twins and I can share together. I tried to get them interested in the old school version but they couldn’t get past how dated everything was. Now my boys and I have an awesome way to bridge that age gap and have something to talk about.

    Not any parents have anything in common with their children anymore. I think I can overlook a few discrepancies for something that precious.

    I love all of these live action retro movies they’re making!
  • jose
    I A BIG FAN OF THE CARTOON DEVASTER THAT THING ON THE PAGE LOOKS TOTALLY DIFFERENT IF THERE NOT GOING TO MAKE HIM LOOK LIKE HIS SUPPOST TO THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE MADE HIM
  • unhappy
    to mr bay i am not happy with what you have done with devastator or sound wave. that is not what they look like when i was a kid. shame on you for not trying to make to look like they should. sometimes thank when hollywood gets a hold of something like this they just mess it up. next time you try something like this angin make sure and do it right. brian a big transformer fan.
  • Jared
    I love the pic of Devastator (at top), and would hope it ends up that way, but probably won't, if the pic of Brawl is any indication.

    His modified form (and the presumably modified forms of the other 5) will ultimately make Devastator look somewhat different.

    I just hope it's not too different, though.
  • Jared
    "And yet, the robots were more massive than their vehicle modes would allow for. Surprise, Bay lied."

    Upon watching the movie again very carefully, it appears that the size/mass/density was correct and consistent.

    Flamestrike, perhaps it appears the way you say because when they are in robot form, they are "stretched out", with exposed areas (joints) and "air pockets"(abdomen), where as when they are in vehicular form, they may be more compacted or condensed.

    As far as I could see, there didn't seem to be any problems with mass simply vanishing into nothingness, or generating from nothingness.

    And each Transformer stayed consistent in its transformations... even moreso than the original cartoons. So I don't have any problems with that. Bay actually pulled that off correctly...

    I just wish that he had kept their heads/faces/coloration more recognizable... and also left Brawl's name alone, instead of wussying out (Besides being the correct name, "Brawl" is just as tough a name as "Devastator").

    Rest assured, time will tell if he screws up again, and diehard TF fans will be sure to complain about it.
  • GUNSMITH
    IVE SEEN WHAT DEVASTATOR WILL LOOK LIKE IN THE FILM, HIS BODY LOOKS GOOD BUT WHEN YOU SEE HIS FACE, WELL..IT LOOKS LIKE A BRUTAL METALIC ALIEN HOTDOG WITH GREEN LIGHT ON THE END..WHO DESIGNS THE FACES??
  • ERIC HARRIS
    BECAUSE TRANSFORMERS IS THE BEST MOVIE IN THE HLOE WORLD
  • Aucklander
    This is the real Devastator, and in my opinion this is what he should of looked like in the movie.

    not that thing on the other page.
  • FlameStrike
    "And Bay did say in the beginning that he wasn’t going to mess with the size/mass/density issue."

    And yet, the robots were more massive than their vehicle modes would allow for. Surprise, Bay lied.
  • Jared
    Also, I agree (& disagree) with Dannyboy. It stands to reason that intelligent mechanized lifeforms who would have evolved so differently from what humans could ever imagine, & have mastered the ability to mimic/camoflage themselves into any form they choose for survival's sake, would naturally be pretty generic & not easily recognizable in robot form. But if they are separate individuals (not a hive-mind, like the Borg), then they still have to be able to recognize & ID each other. And the only way to do that is by face or by voice. And yet, with a few exceptions, their faces were hardly recognizable. If I had seen Bumblebee's face or Jazz's face, I might have guessed their ID's correctly (maybe), but Ironhide? (no mohawk?) Ratchet? (no forehead boomerang, but large insect mandibulae?), or ANY of the Decepticons? Forget it. I was confused & disgusted out of my gourd about Megatron (Mr. Squidhead, sigh) The only ID'able face was Optimus, but even that was still weird. Why Bay couldn't throw us poor curs a bone by having just an ounce of familiarity & logic? [rhetorical & obvious. no need to respond.]

    BTW, don't criticize GoBots, I loved them as much as I loved Transformers (Bionicle you can bash all you want). ;)

    And yes, Wes. We can assume that Blackout (if not being some mutilated version of Soundwave himself), could have filled that role in the first movie. If you recall, during Blackout's first attack (on the military base), Scorponok or Frenzy "popped-out" of him. It sure reminded me of tapes popping-out of a boombox. But imagine trying to have a 40+ foot tall robot try to transform into a boombox; it'd be a boombox the size of a minivan... & tapes the size of VCR's (both of which are outdated forms of technology)... not realistic.

    And Bay did say in the beginning that he wasn't going to mess with the size/mass/density issue. That's why a 60+ foot tall, several ton, Megatron ain't gonna transform into an 8-inch, less than a pound, P-38 pistol.

    Besides, Frenzy was small enuf to transform into a boombox (tip-of-the-hat), & that was fine with me. Close enuf.

    Anyway, I figure it like this: Alien machines arrive on earth, try to blend in as best they can with what was available upon arrival, & so at first their forms are really strange, but as they stay on earth, & become more acclimatized to not just what will help them blend in, but also to the preferences & styles of our culture, then perhaps they will get more familiar looking, like Ironhide going red, & Ratchet changing to white/red. At least that's my hope. We'll see how (ir)responsible Bay turns out to be.
  • Jared
    Ummm... everyone except Whatheff & I have apparently glossed over the statement '7 Constructicons'...

    Let's see. Who knows how to count? Hook, Longhaul, Bonecrusher, Scavenger, Mixmaster, Scrapper. That's it. There ain't no mo'.
  • Whatheff
    Coloered Constructicons??? are kidding???
    7 constructicons??? does anyone not know the history of the original series??

    With those to rumors alone i would think more people would be up in arms like i am right now!!!! Michael bay is the wrong person for this franchise!!!
  • FlameStrike
    "I love the movie, holes and all, but I grew up with transformers so I’m probably biased."

    Wes, I also grew up with Transformers, and I am a fan of the franchise to this day. None of that, though, stops me from hating this branch of the franchise, and virtually everyone involved in creating it.
  • D
    Uh, that's not "legit concept art".
    That's fanart Josh Nizzi showed off months ago before TF2 even went into production.
  • Dannyboy
    Loved the animated movie..hated Bays' version after the opening scene. You know that once they introduce "Wheeljack", we stand a good possibility of seeing the dinobots. oh, wait, nevermind.... Bays' movies don't follow those guidelines, cuz he's all about himself and the $$$$$. Love Devastator - hate the concept art.. the robots still look like crap. I'm ready for a real transformers movie and not a BIONICLE / GOBOTS hash up!!! Is it really that hard to give them decent faces people, ya know like one that doesn't look like swampthing.......
  • wes
    Wow, I don't see many movies on this elicit so much response. I love the movie, holes and all, but I grew up with transformers so I'm probably biased. Anyway, I thought the one that transformed into the helicopter seemed to resemble soundwave.
  • Panda
    "because Bay thought it sounded cooler"

    don't you mean "awesome-r"?

    I know so many on here hated Transformers. I would have liked to see a lot changed, but it was still cool to see them in CGI and some of the battle scenes were really entertaining - if you skip though the Section 7 crap and computer hacking.
  • Rob
    I read in several articles and in an interview with the writers that there's these two robots called 'twins' that are an icecream truck or something. How stupid is that? Are the original characters (like sunstreaker and sideswipe) not good enough? Oh wait, there's been a dozen TV series' made out of it and now a second live-action film...Idiot move Bay

    I am not too excited for this film anymore because im sure it will be incredibly childish and full of holes :(

    with the inclusion of tons of new robots, it means the story wont be fleshed out from their perspective (which is what ALL the transformers shows were about) so the movie will be Mr. drink-and-drive smoker running around with his broken hand talking really fast while random and plot-holed events take place. Maybe John Turturro will tell him he's hot because he's got a broken hand from a car crash.

    hmmm...I think this site is turning me into a transformers hater
  • Wow. I hope this pans out to be true. This is already looking better than the first one.
  • High Kalibur
    Awesome!

    @ Vic

    What about Soundwave!!?

    Anyway, who doesn't like Transformers -- and why?
  • FlameStrike
    Forgive me. There's a hurricane coming my way, so I'm a little more stressed out than usual.
  • True. Lighten up just a teeny bit there, FS. :-P

    Vic
  • Rob
    FlameStrike...its not presumptuous, its a figure of speech, heh.
  • LOL, Kofi, I warned you. :-P

    For the record (as regular readers already know) I couldn't stand Transformers. I sat in the audience literally confused at the cheers coming from the audience while i was thinking "Man, this is awful."

    Vic
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