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  • lastdrag0n89
    Its not impossible for Venom to have a sucessful movie. I recent comics venom has his own series where as the beginnin gfocuses on Brocks mental issues. If the movie starts off in the same sense as diplaying Brock as street punk with no morals and just a dwonright loser who aqcuires the symbiote would work. Havin carnage in the story would portay brock if he went all the way to edge and in the end he does the right thing by destroying his clone or offspring.
  • i will see venom movie with topher grace he's awsome i like topher grace as venom he knows stunts and he knows how's to fight eniemies i hope topher grace as venom deafeat carnage played by jim carrey on the venom movie that will be awsome i will see venom movie in theatres august 19th 2012 see ya.
  • The Pitt Man
    What a time we live in, when the villain gets his own movie. If it happens, is Spidey a guest... Everyone is speculating on the next villain for spidey 4, so who's Venom's villain.... ah, er... hero... ah... am I in the bizarro world? And wasn't Carnage a bit of snot that dripped in cletus Cassady's jail cell. Talk about yet another unoriginal brutal raging villain. Ah... lizard, vermin, scorpion, mike tyson, etc. I thought successful criminals/villains were supposed to smart. Guess not.
  • ng
    i think that if they make a venom movie it should be centered around eddie brock. also if they make movie series of it, they should have it follow up to eddie brock becoming anti-venom (if you read the amazing spiderman comics you'd know what i'm talking about. and for the record, i think topher grace did a great job.
  • jpduval8
    Whhat most of you aren't realizing is that Venom, in the comics generally was a hero, to some twisted degree. He was a twisted version of Spider-Man, killing those he saw as evil or hurting the innocent. The only part of Venom that was truly evil is his obsession with killing, or at least tormenting, Peter Parker.
  • 37 radius
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, THAT`S TERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRIBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEE!!!! EVERY VILLAIN IN THE BUSINESS OF SPIDERMAN SHOULD ONLY BE PRESENTED BY THE SPIDERMAN WORLD, FOR THE LOVE OF HELL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VENOM SPINOFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND PUTTING CARNAGE IN IT TO FIGHT HIM WOULD BE EVEN WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • DanBan07
    Here's how you make the spidey spin-off from Spidey 3, not have to include spidey, and get rid of Topher Grace logically at the same time through storyline. Have a small piece of the symbiote escape the blast through a crack in the floor made by the bomb. Have it hitch a ride on one of the ambulance people out of despiration to the hospital where he takes control of some brain dead patient and, since it was bonded so well to brock, have the symbiote place Eddie's conciousness into that patient. In his defeated, new body delerium, have him go home to San Francisco to do whatever. I've always thought that the best super hero movies delt with philisophical issues such as, for example, The Dark Knight and why he just doesn't kill the Joker. They're gonna make him a good guy somehow whether fans want them to or not. You can make the issue about the differences between heroes and villains. Why would someone like Venom turn into a hero from his Spidey 3 villany. Yeah, the 90's Venom comics were bad, but the thing that facinated me about Venom being a hero of any kind is that something that looks like it could be in a horror movie could be a hero under the right circumstances. That what you look like doesn't dictate who you are. But hey, this isn't my movie. Just offering ideas.
  • iron man
    omg i thought the exact same thing!!
    i was super friggin high watching fast and furious and i was turn to me cousin and said "VIN DIESEL SHOULD TOTALLY BE FKING VENOM!!"
  • Pj
    In my opinion,Spider man 3 HAD the potential to being a goood movie BUT made the mistake off trying to CRAMP in TOOO many BIG STORY characters.if they wanted venom in the movie they needed more focus ON vemon not so many other characters.They seemed to have taken A LOT of timee on sandmann and even a lot of emotion and focus onn francos amnesia but NOT really 2 much time on Venom.Thus causing venom to look like nothing but a rused project.I dnt "hate topher" and do not believe he "ruined" the venom part.He played the part as well as he could and even added a bit of comedy into it which cause me with a few "lol" here and there BUT it just so happened that he didn't fit in the Venom image that we were all waiting for.That fight scene between them both was disgraceful especialy afterr playing the games and even readng those still image comments and gettin stokedd.IF it is that this venom spin off happens they're going to have to make it some what connect to SM3 cause they it just wouldn't make sense thus puttin more focus on Eddie Brock and leaving spiderman is "shadows" for this one.I'm not TOO suure aboutt carnage being in this movie,the messed venom up and best belive they'd probably ruin carnage and have to bring in some kind of remake to fix him hense the venom movie.We can only HOPE they dnt completely wreck this onee,cause I'd soooo want to see this 1.
  • Gambit
    I think a venom movie would be great to see. But i really don't think it will be done right. Venom did have his own seris and there are plenty of solo venom stories to go with. Or it'd even be great to just start a new story, while sticking to the well, known facts about him. But the fact is he is known as a spidey villan, and making him without spidey means it isn't for spidey fans (movie spidey fans and spidey fans that only know the spidey vs venom story lines) or for kids. which means its for the same fans as the blade movie. which means possible R rating. It'd be wicked if they do a venom story and right at the end have the carange start up and lead into a carnage movie. Cause Carahge is a savage killer and as much as I think venom could be alright without an R rating....carnage wouldn't at all. So Carnage should never be in a spidey movie....unless oneday someone redoes spidey the way Batman Begins and TDK was redone to be darker. I guess my main point is. A Venom movie, no matter what, would be fun to see and it could be done really well, but i highly doubt it ever will be, it'll more then likely be an overall disapointment.
  • venom
    sorry for the rants by the way didnt want it to get heated or anything anyways i think it would be cool if they made a spin off and the beauty of these sites is fans can express ideas and thoughts on the matters
  • Armoured Gideon
    I think that Topher Grace got a bad rap on SM3. He was awesome as Venom against Maguire's Spiderman- they looked kinda similar, they had the same basic character traits, etc, and ok, he wasn't the classic Venom, but then the SM movies aren't really about that are they? They're more about showing you what the comics never can- supers in motion. And remember, they were never intended to be canon for the Marvel Universe, they just wanted you to see supers really jumping buildings, punching through walls, etc.

    Hope I haven't offended anyone too much.
  • Sadist
    Good, they are making a venom movie. The charcter was wasted in spider man 3,by not focusing on his charcter and blowning him up. Right now,i can only of carnage as the villain. i thought topher was ok as venom in SM3. Also the writers have said they sworn to secrecty and i know the fan pressure.

    *I am already doing a maxiumum carnage fan script
  • venom
    sheesh joshi again i didnt say r rated it was an exaple of another film i just said it should be a higher rating than pg and horror movies other action movies are constantly toping the box office charts week after week just cause its not aimed for "everybody" cause its rated higher than pg doesnt mean it wont make its money back and make a profit its not a movie about a well known character for being a superhero its not like its captain america venom has always been kiddied down when ever moved into other mediums wich doesnt suit its characters mood and demonor and style the point is no one wants to see another spiderman movie only called venom we saw that version of venom and it wasnt well recieved and wolverine is like the most popular superhero in the marvel universe and has quite a pop culture status even before the wolverine movie ofcourse they will try and cash in with the kids and make it pg venom is far from wolverine status in well known comic book characters which means they can go for a certain audience and venoms budget will most likley be punisher or blade movie size because he is a lesser known character like those guys it wasnt aimed as a summer blockbuster granted punisher sucked but that wasnt because of its rating or how much it was advertised it was cause of acting writting and directing which is why i said venom should be rated higher and given more depth written properly cause its not a big name hero that can generate enough attention of a movie coming out about it just from its pop culture status to make its money in the first week you keep looking at it like hes as popular as spiderman marvel comics as had over 20 of its characters made into movies or apeared in movies in the last 10 years not all were the top tier of the well known characters several of them were cult fav characters aimed at a nieche market and venom is deff a cult status character
  • venom
    and who says they have to bank it on a franchise that turned out a dispointing 3rd installment if they want ppl to see it thats the last thing they would want to assosiate it with they would want to stay as for away as the monstroisty they called venom in spm3 the audience all they would loose would be little kids and thier grandparents taking them to a movie on the summer holiday or what ever kids do but would gain other audiences and the fans of the comics would still go and see it
  • venom
    @ joshi the character is a spinoff of the pg spiderman but he isnt pg you want to to show what could of happened to spiderman if he hadnt of ditched the symbiote venom is at the other end of the scale he has good in him his version of good is a little diff and matt the dark knight had a violent joker yes.. but the joker is a psychological vilian he gives twisted choices for batz to make or his victoms to make venom isnt that kinda clever hes more direct and brash im not saying R but it was an example with blade to show how realy show the struggle of good an evil you need to see venoms hands get bloody just because spiderman is kept in mind for little kids doesnt mean venom does and before anyone one says it was based ona comic book character set at kids so i come back to blade
  • jody
    I think all the Spiderman movies were a little lame. They should bring back Franco as Venom now that he's hitting his acting stride.Or Vin Diesal. Venom would be great as long as "Spidey" isn't involved. All of those films were made for kids. So will Venom which is why it won't be great.
  • Darren seeley
    I think:

    *keep it within the Spidey-verse. How to ditch webhead...? Simple. Have the film take place about the same timeline as the events that will occur in Spider-Man 4 (Spidey will be swamped with other foes) and move the action to another city/location. (Such as San Francisco?)

    *the bad guy(s) can hand Venom his rear. Venom can always come back and win somehow. It's adaptation, after all.

    *my personal choices are Scorpion, who in this scase is 'created' not to fight Spidey, but Venom, who is a threat. The symbiont latches onto to Scorpion, making him the New Venom...and more the threat for First Venom to defeat- with Brock becoming the white "Anti-Venom". OR go for the foes in the Lethal Protector run (Scream, Phage, Riot, Lasher, and Agony).

    But if Venom isn't the hero/anti-hero? How 'bout Brock's ex...Ann Weying?
  • charles darwin
    You really can't just have Venom face off against Carnage by himself, because if they stick to comic book powers, Venom will get his clock cleaned in about two minutes. It always took the might of Spider-man, Venom, and usually some other way to weaken Kasedy first, before they could bring Carnage back to Ravencroft. They would seriously have to subdue Carnage's powers, to put either just Spider-man or Venom against him, alone, and that would suck, big time.
  • SIN187UM
    @ Hud

    You are talking about combined box office and DVD/merchandise sales right? Not saying the turn out wouldn't be somewhat big at the box office, but thats quite a stretch for just the box office.
  • Matt K
    it doesnt need to be rated R, TDK was pg 13 w/ a violent joker and it worked out fine, venom can still be violent in this film and make it a pg 13 film
  • I like that plotline venom. Spend the movie doing what Spidey 3 SHOULD'VE DONE w/ the whole Dark Side/Symbiote thread.
  • venom
    oh and dont make it freakin pg make it at least m maybe ma venom isnt like goody goody spidey you need to see blood and entrails allover the place when hes in action it cant be done pg, they went ma (actualy i think it was R in some places) for blade so why not venom
  • venom
    venom movie sounds like a good idea since they royaly screwed it up in spidey3 they put so much plot development into sandman and blacksuit spidey and harry osy becoming green goblin its like they were like oh venom at the end if they did it right theyed of just concentrated on green gobby 2 and sand man have eddie brock in it and the black suit but spidey ditches the suit right at the end of the movie and it attaches to brock thus setting up spidey 4 with every spidey fan jizzing thier pants with anticipation of spiderman vs venom butttt a venom movie is a chance for a redo of one od the more complexed hero/vilan around ok ideas for the venom movie 1 vin diesel def better choice than topher moron 2 no spider man in it spiderman 3 ruined any spiderman vs venom rematch ina movie for a long ass time 3 no carnage you gotta spend half the movie explaining how carnage is spawned from venom and anyway that story involved spidey so his two biggest foes are out for this one def bring in carnage if hey can get a sequal it would have fans more excited than a new spiderman installment. 3 so what kinda story do you go with then with the 2 big names out of it simple you focus soley on eddie brock/venom struggling with his dark side being miss understood by athorities playing vigalanty but gets carried away and murders a thug then hes on the run while solving some sort of crime then have him loose some one he had grown close too during the film and he looses it gets the main baddy but it captured or maybe lets himself become captured by the cops once he realises he looses ppl close to him when he looses control or sumfin and end it with his cell mate being kassidy and if they do it proper it might redeem spidey vs venom enough to have them in a a venom two either both tracking down the murderous carnage for thier own reasons while fighting each other along the way and maybe een have to work together at the end and call a truce ha i kinda gave a vague plot outline for a sequal too >.< but anyway my point is he doesnt need to fight a super powered baddy or goody for the movie to be kick ass
  • Wow hud,

    That's a pretty big figure.
  • hud
    is see this movie if it gets made and looks good from the trailers making anywhere between 225 million and 325 million dollars in the U.S.
  • Oscar!
    Dont forget guys, Dr. Connors still has a sample of the symbiote in his lab ;)
  • Dman
    lol oops i meant to say I would NOT want him to have hair.................
  • Dman
    Diesel I could see as playing Brock. If he were to actually play the part, I would want him to have hair actually cause it would just look hilarious. Though I didnt think Venom was that bad in Spiderman 3, in the spinoff we really need to see the big, buff venom thats insane. I think the movie will be a hit at the box office just because all of the Spiderman movies were and everyone knows who Venom is if they know Spiderman comics/movies. And of course in the movie Venom obviously has to have someone to fight against or something. Is Carnage a good idea to have him in the movie? I'm not sure if I would want Carnage in the Venom movie just because Id actually rather see Carnage in a Spiderman movie.
  • huntthejest
    @Kofi, and pretty much everyone else that pointed it out. Diesel would be, well, Diesel at this role. Good God, who cares if he has hair! Diesel can grow it(Find Me Guilty) but looks much tougher without it(everything else ever with him in it). I'm just saying, there is one casting every so often that people are just like, "No duh! Who else could ever be that perfect for a role?" And this one certainly seems like one of those no-brainers to me. That being said, I want a celebrity death match episode where Vin Diesel rips Topher Graces spine out and plays it like a xylophone. And then his long forked tongue flails wildly in the air(maybe Gene Simmons could provide the motion capture for it in the film?) and FATALITY scrolls onto the screen in blood red.
    As far as origins go, please give that man a proper start up. He finds the symbiote, he wears the symbiote, he finds its driving him to do horrible vengeful things, and decides finally that this is his chance to be powerful like he always wanted. Time to use it for good. He starts saving people and crap. Then, suddenly somebody else has this same power. A psychopath by the name of Cletus Cassidy. Guess who's the only man on the planet who can stop him? Establish who Eddie Brock is first. His half-brother was killed in a tragic accident(enter that wondefully placed pumpkin bomb.) He's down on his luck, vengeful, and doesn't know where to turn. No one believes in him, himself included. If only he had power, to do something to make this world better. Enter a visit to the lab of Dr. Connors. Maybe he's a delivery boy-doesn't need to be that significant a reason, he just needs to be there. He gets the suit, has a few woohoo moments(go web go and such) and then begins to strike terror into the hearts of evil-doers. Carnage goes on a murder spree with his power, Brock has to stop him. Maybe a cameo from Spidey, but nothing huge. This is Venom's film.
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