Ray Park Wants to Return as Darth Maul in a New ‘Star Wars’ Movie – Could It Happen?

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One of the most iconic, and at the same time most under-utilized, characters in the live-action Star Wars universe (or, at the very least, the Prequel episodes), hopes of future double-bladed lightsaber fights were cut short when Darth Maul was cut in half by Obi-Wan Kenobi in The Phantom Menace. Even though the character later returned, with a pair of mechanical legs, in the recently canceled Star Wars: The Clone Wars, voiced by Being Human star (and Star Wars: The Forced Unleashed alum) Sam Witwer, many fans still consider the fate of Darth Maul a major missed opportunity.

However, now that Disney has acquired Lucasfilm and the Star Wars universe from creator George Lucas, could we see actor Ray Park reprise his role as Darth Maul in a new live-action adventure in the galaxy far, far away?

While any talk of a live-action Darth Maul return is entirely premature at this point but actor Ray Park, who portrayed the character in Episode 1, is eager to reprise the role – with very basic demands in mind. Speaking at Wizard Con about the possibility of returning as the Sith Lord (reported by MTV Geek), Park said:

“Just give me food and water, and I’m there.”

We already have confirmation that solo Star Wars movies featuring fan-favorite characters will be released alongside the next episodic trilogy, for example:

  • Star Wars: Episode 7 in 2015
  • Solo Film #1 in 2016
  • Star Wars: Episode 8 in 2017
  • Solo Film #2 in 2018
  • Star Wars: Episode 9 in 2019

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As a result, since Han Solo and Boba Fett are rumored to be the first two characters to get standalone treatments, it stands to reason that Darth Maul could appear as a side character in an existing (or future) solo project. Understandably, some fans might feel like bringing Darth Maul back (with fancy mechanical legs) would undercut the impact of his Episode 1 death but, keep in mind, given that Lucasfilm is pursuing standalone stories set in pre-Episode 7 timeframes, it’s possible that the filmmakers could bring Maul back for an appearance – prior to his chronological introduction in Episode 1.

Given that the Zabrak warrior isn’t known for lengthy exposition, and is mostly a one-man killing machine, it’s less likely that Maul would get his own solo film – but he could serve as a great antagonist in the rumored Yoda spinoff movie or Seven Samurai-inspired Jedi team-up. Considering Zack Snyder is busy helping Warner Bros. with their budding DC Universe, talk of his standalone Jedi film was probably exaggerated but that doesn’t mean that Darth Maul wouldn’t be a great fit for a similar battle between Light and Dark sides of the Force.

So what could we expect from Darth Maul if he were to return? According to Park, he’s ready to up-the-ante again. After introducing fans to a live-action double-bladed lightsabers, MTV Geek indicates that the actor wants to wield two double-bladed lightsabers at once. At the very least, Park hopes to come back “with something a little bit spicy” and asserts that he’d like to be shirtless – to feature the character’s tattoos.

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Park also expressed interest in reprising his role as Snake Eyes in G.I. Joe 3: “I really hope they ask me back” – which, at this point, is much more likely than a new movie featuring Darth Maul (especially since G.I. Joe 3 is actively moving forward). While Park has not been formerly approached about either a Star Wars movie or the G.I. Joe sequel, Snake Eyes is one of only a few characters that has been featured in both Rise of Cobra and Retaliation, so it’s hard to imagine director Jon Chu wouldn’t include Park in number three.

We’ll just have to keep our fingers crossed that Lucasfilm head Kathleen Kennedy sees the same potential in Darth Maul.

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Star Wars: Episode 7 is set for release in 2015.

Source: MTV Geek [via CBM]

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  1. Yes, yes, yes, and oh wait, and YESSSS

  2. Based on where Clone Wars left Maul, it’s totally possible to bring him back in some capacity in ether stand alone or EPS 7 or beyond.

    • Yea definitely only seen an episode, but based on your comment guess he survives. Plus Park is down to do the shirtless version.

  3. He has a better chance of reprising Toad. DOFP is still filming, right? Always room for one more, right Mr. Singer?

    Better yet– just get Iron Fist/ Heroes For Hire off the ground.
    Yes, Maul was a cool character and one of the bright spots in Phantom Menace. But let’s not push it. (and folks—he was dubbed!)

    Now, that all out of the way…there’s nothing wrong with Ray Park to play a NEW character in Star Wars.

    • Agreed!!!!!!

  4. Darth Maul was the clever marketing image they plastered everywhere to push the movie, but aside from two light saber scenes the character did not do much. The fact that people say he was the best part of the Phantom Menace is telling about how much the rest of the material resonated with viewers.

    • Very fair point! I would say that he was a Boba Fett- caliber prospect for greatness, and wasted just as fast. It would be funny if the same pattern happened, and long after his abrupt death he finally gets a good story! On the other hand, lightsabers and sword fight choreography are important elements to many fans, myself included. Ray Park devised the fights and starred in them, elevating the premise and believability of saber duels to new heights. This new attention to intricate sword play resonated into the next films, and became one of the few resounding successes alongside special effects and sound design. So I’d say he does lay claim to some quality, but the notion of wrecking the (otherwise flawless) story of episode one by having him survive doesn’t move me. Considering how bad so much of that film was, there is vey little limit to how many things they can rewrite in my opinion…

  5. Knowing JJ, he’ll bring him back. It is possible JJ will bring back Darth Vader bucz it’s JJ.

  6. Here’s a shocker, stop living in the past and come up with a new and awesome villain. Stop the retreads.. maul, vader.. Their time has come and gone.

    • Put a +1 on that. I wish JJ heard your words for Star Trek.

      • @guardian couldn’t agree more with you on that one. Entertaining but just felt like a retread.

        • I know what you mean. I enjoyed it, but I think that the only reason to revisit and retell is if you have an idea SO GOOD that it justifies the move. The same should go for time travel and save-the-Earth stories, (which are some of my favorites), because there are too many already. Use with discretion, people!

    • The games seem to find a way to think up a new villains, the movie writers should at least make an attempt.

      • Right on Slayer. I dont want to see a 2+ movie thats essentially an homage to films from decades ago. Some mentions, past character apperances to ensure a cohesive continuity and for the plot new story archs to have a start but beyond that i want new threats, new worlds, different scenarios. As Guardian Outlaw alluded to withthe ST sequel I really hope SW isnt similar story beats, same or similar characters but with tweaks to the “formula” here and there. …Oh Spock said Kahn BUT last time it was Kirk.. Genius! (Insert sarcasm and eye rolling here). For the SW oh obi wan kenobi sacrificed himself in a fight with vader for the other to escape… BUT this time its Luke who does it … Fighting a cyborgified Darth Maul… genius! (Insert sarcasm and eye rolling here). Lol

        • And a big “right on” to you too, Bellcure. Must warn you though: star wars adheres to some pretty distinct patterns thus far, as laid out by Lucas, and not only do they so far dictate the flow and culmination of events and characters, but they are studied by the likes of Episode 7′s scribe. He has taught a class discussing the character and story patterns, and as mentioned on this site he identifies the culminating patterns and ingredients… That suggests that not only is there a pervasive structure, but for the moment Star Wars is being written by a guy who has studied how to effectively deliver that structure. An obvious element to have or glaringly omit is the father/son relationship and what discord/confrontation arrises over time to seperate generations before the young replace the old. However it gets tweaked, I think the use of family will seem uh… familiar in the next film. The “hero’s journey” may be too structured for some of us, but not for the kids! Good luck to the rest of us.

          • @john calkins awesome points. If I’m not mistaken he broke down why SW4 had the “golden” or perfect ending as all plot points/everything resolves itself within less than a minute. At least we are certain that internal world building/consistency & general continuity will be right on the money with someone as knowledgeable as him. Totally in agreement that there are certain thematic arcs that are pervasive throughout SW mythos and and likely not going away anytime soon. Something I’ve always wanted yet never seen explored (in films, forget the extended universe stuff) is the hard dichotomy between Jedi and Sith. More needs to be done with that, this basic duality was fine originally but in the end things exist on a spectrum and would like to see a character that perhaps do to circumstance must straddle the lines between both. Would be different and perhaps much more compelling as up to now.. Well lets face it anakin went from “conflicted” to lets kill padawans and choke my wife out mode in a couple heartbeats.

            (Side note: Personally for ep1-3 anakin should have been a conflicted teen in ep1, dark side at culmination of 2 and full out sith in 3… Darker? yes, better? Hell yes).

            • I totally agree, Bellcure. As for the ep 7 writer,, at least we will hopefully get an expert and studied reinterpretation if not a totally different tale. But appealing to a fan base is often a delicate balance between giving people exactly what they expect and surprising them with something unexpected and new. The easy solution is to change as little as possible, and the other end of the spectrum is to change too much. I find that the best stories tend to betray your expectations and deliver something you specifically don’t expect without forgetting why the previous stories were so appealing. In this way I especially like what you are saying about grey areas and complexity of concepts like the force. During ep3 there is a very compelling depth to these ideas while we come to know Palpatine as a multi-dimensional person with motives and beliefs that someone might find understandably compelling, well thought out and justified. We know he is the villain, but we can imagine how the impatient Anakin would find his teachings to be sage wisdom. In a flub of Jar Jar proportions though, we lose that complexity and uncertainty in an instant. Suddenly Palpatine is a cackling madman of an evil wizard, his villainy telegraphed for the stupid with a black robe and a wrinkly face, and five minutes later the careful cultivation of Vader is cancelled in favor of having Ani murder school kids. Huge letdown. The Emperor went from being the most complicated wielder of the force to the least complicated, and so naturally the 870 year old muppet, whose dignified existence is based upon teaching wisdom like “war (does) not make one great”, had to whip out his laser sword and kick his ass. (incedentally, any kid who likes Yoda because of his fighting prowess is deprived of the character’s value, validity and dignity. Unless Empire is your favorite Yoda story you are not a real Yoda fan!)

              Delving into the nuances that went out the window in the prequels is a great idea, and I would like to see a character who is straddling the line somehow. Maybe the Johnathan Ryse-Meyers (sp?) character can do what they failed to do with Vader and convincingly portray a more conflicted soul. I’d love to be thinking of him as a white-hat good guy, and then have him do something decidedly unheroic to muddy the waters and make us wonder what darkness may be explored in the trilogy.

              Most of all, I’d like them to stop telling us who the heros and villains are, and just tell a sophisticated enough story to allow some thinking on the part of the audience instead of just following along. Of course another danger is retelling the same pattern, as you said, so there has to be some surprise. I’d like the grey character to find success rather than have to be killed by his daughter or some other uninspired retread. Let the guy find some victory in his impurity rather than telling us he has to conform or die! It would certainly be amazing if the next movie could set new standards other than box office numbers, and I would start with story and character before action set piece and good guy/ bad guy setups and payoffs.

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    • Star wars is all about the past, in case you haven’t noticed…

  7. One of my all time favorite Villain

  8. I would love to see a seven samurai type movie with Yoda, quigon, and mace windu, and others, against Darth Maul. That would be freaking badass, as well as being a good standalone movie.

  9. I’ve met Ray. Not only is he a really nice guy you certainly wouldn’t pick a fught with him. He’s kinda useful if you cach my drift.
    Can’t see how his role can come back if he’s dead.

  10. That character epitomized all that was wrong with star wars.

    Ok some of what was very wrong, maybe not all.

    Seriously that makeup look like it was done with a $2 halloween makeup pack. Long before this film came out kids were doing better makeup on themselves.

    Up there with a toy elephant playing an instrument in the original star wars.

    Just makes the entire thing come off as juvenile crap.

    I hope Abrams cranks things up a bit.

  11. please please. just make it happen. even if it doesn’t make sense. and disregard the clone wars television series.

  12. I think JJ needs to distance himself as much as possible from the prequels. Bringing back Darth Maul would only appeal to fanboys, all he would do for the general audience is bring back bad memories of episode 1. Plus, i feel like in order for this new Star Wars series to be successful it can’t rely on nostalgia. Part of the problem with the prequels was that stuff like “baby boba fett” was shoehorned in for no apparent reason other than the iconic status it held in popular culture. This is a new start for Star Wars, and I think it would only hold the franchise back if it was laden with references to past movies. Just keep the bare bones of the franchise (ie, the Skywalkers, the sith) and try something new.

    • yea u make sense but u gotta admit darth maul was cool but i guess he would be real old also. He would be using his lightsaber as a cane in the timeline of ep 7 but they can use park as a new better villain still hoping for a massive lightsaber fight with alot of hands left on the ground.

    • Yeah, I think he will try to distance his work from the prequels so that nobody that hated them feels obliged to hate the new stuff, but as for not relying on nostalgia…. They have already hired the cast from 1977′s original. It doesn’t get much more nostalgic in star wars than that. Still, I mostly agree. Better to have little connection at all beyond the universe and species if all they can do is shoehorn in awkward references and insider gags and rewritten history. Vader built Threepio? Sigh…

      • Well, the original 1977 cast is good nostalgia.

  13. They should have Darth Mauls brother take revenge on Obi wan for killing him, then he learns the force and hunts obi down after the third film

  14. Definitely want to see Ray Park in action as another Sith, Sith Acolyte, or Dark Jedi, but not Darth Maul with bionic legs. It’s Park’s martial arts skills that are impressive and CGing him doing action is not the same and a waste of the man’s talent.

  15. Maybe in a Palpatine prequel or something of that nature, but generally speaking he’s dead.

  16. Sorry to say this but this is about as likely as a planet hulk film happening anytime soon, I.e. a pipe dream that fans like to think could actually happen
    ( I would love to be proved wrong on that front)

    seems that people just want to see him do more of want he did in episode 1, which was awesome but they hardly gave his character any depth at all (expect for a few robotic lines of dialogue he was mute) that could be used or expanded on for a solo film
    Plus he is dead!
    Didn’t know that the clone wars tv show had gotten so bad that they had to come up with some half-baked way to bring him back, (after the prequel trilogy I stayed well away from that clone wars rubbish, they should have include more of the clone wars in the movies instead, not just the beginning and the end)

    As for having him in the new trilogy. Just no, chopped in half and falling down that hole = dead (if that isn’t good enough then surely the Emperor has a chance of coming back? he only fell into the Death Star after all, maybe he managed to get to an escape pod before it exploded so he can come back and be the villain again right?)
    also if mr maul were to somehow turn up in the new trilogy how old would that character be? obi-wan was really old in a new hope, Luke will be old in these films and he was born sometime after darth maul died.

    Star Wars NEEDS to bring in a new villain(s) for the next trilogy
    Definitely up for having ray park come back to Star Wars though, just not as darth maul

    As for the other non-episode films, gotta do something with Han Solo, show him meeting chewie and also winning the falcon from lando, Kessel run could rival the pod-racing sequence, and opportunity to bring boba fett in and have him actually do something (another underused character)
    Not sure what the other one could be, maybe the lost years, between episode 3 and episode 4, have darth Vadar building the reputation that he has by episode 4, cos at the moment he is Hayden Christensen (hardly a badass) and somehow goes from, where’s padme? nooooooo!(boo hoo) to the guy who marches in at the beginning of a new hope with such menace and with a fearsome reputation, quite the transformation. Give the guy his mojo back, the prequels stole it completely

    • Totally. Of course, any more star wars at all was like a pipe dream until Lucas sold out, so who knows? But as for his age, do we know that his race is not robust at a later age? He isn’t a human after all. Still, the rebirth looked awful, and suffered from The fact that Maul had so little personality to begin with that when they gave him loads of dialogue and frantic movement he didn’t resemble the ep 1 character in any way.

      You nailed the biggest problem overall (in my opinion) with the prequel trilogy. Even at the highest point BY FAR, when things got dark and serious in episode 3, the transition from Anakin to Vader was WAY too abrupt. After years of doubt that the annoying putz from ep 1 could ever ever become the evil, sadistic warlord known as Vader, relishing the chance to choke his servants to death in public, something had changed. I finally started to believe, with sandperson slaughter a fictional decade behind us, that this Padawan wuss would someday become an evil scourge…. Then suddenly Mace Windu is dead, and pod racer Anakin is supposedly murdering children in their classrooms. ??? A whole other movie, and a good convincing one at that, was needed to complete that transition. As it stands, the six film saga has more than weak points, it has the most fundamental gaping hole it could have. Lucas himself said that the whole series is really the story of Vader, so where is the huge missing piece? If only they had skipped a decade of unknowns, kinda like Dune did with book two, and we were left wondering about missing pieces. As is, we are told that there aren’t missing pieces, and that hurts credibility a lot. This bugs me more than Jar Jar!

      • Fair point about the age thing
        I only thought it was worth considering, since over the course of the saga yoda goes from the youthful acrobatics of 850-odd (not sure of his exact age in the prequels) to death (due to illness and old age) at 900 years old
        And he is seemingly the most long-lived alien (possible exception being the sarlac) that the movies introduce
        Given how the passage of time over the 6 movies seems to take its toll on all the characters from episode 1 it seemed reasonable to presume that especially after being chopped in half that darth maul would be more than a little worse for wear by episode 7

        • Yes, I am inclined to agree. But if they brought back Maul for a worthy story I wouldn’t care if they said he was old. Still, the canceling of characters’ deaths is a weak move, and the sole reason I think Mace Windu was not exactly a recovered corpse, but rather a wounded Jedi Master who got thrown out the window. We have EVERY reason to suppose that if Anakin and Obiwan can sky dive through traffic, and no Jedi minds losing a limb or two or four, then Mace is just MIA until someone says he never died. That’s why I always feel cheated when death is not clearly established. We should’ve seen a Sebulba-type driver spraying chunks of Windu out of his grill or something. Not that having Mace in a good story someday is a bad idea, it’s just the overuse of uncertainty can seem cowardly and non-committal.

          Speaking of Yoda, when they showed a person with similar head shapes it seemed like they were going to tell us that his race isn’t always tiny and wrinkly. Aside from Yatl, the other puppet, we don’t know how a much younger member of the species might look. Does a 50 year old of his species have height, muscles, or good looks? No idea! But the actor they showed with a Yoda ear looked like a half finished mutant with a learning disability, not a specimen of verile pre-900 year old alien. I also don’t know what role the force plays in his longevity. Do they ALL live 900 years, or does the force keep him alive? If so, then can Luke live to be extra old, and might Mace return virtually unaged many decades after he was lost? I don’t know, but neither does somebody who read a novel once that explained it all, since that is unofficial territory.

      • I disagree. Maul’s return in clone wars was intended to develop the character. To say he was out of character when we really never got to know him from ep 1 makes no sense. He obviously had some personality. The fact he was on a mission for his master in ep 1 and was not the center of the story has clouded your judgement.

        Sith are very emotional. Love, hate, anger, etc are what the Sith use to make them strong. Seriously, Maul is MUCH more complex than you realize.

      • I disagree. Maul’s return in clone wars was intended to develop the character. To say he was out of character when we really onever got to know him from ep 1 makes no sense. He obviously had some personality. The fact he was on a mission for his master in ep 1 and was not the center of the story has clouded your judgement.

        Sith are very emotional. Love, hate, anger, etc are what the Sith use to make them strong. Seriously, Maul is MUCH more complex than you realize.

    • Think for a moment. Darth Maul cut in half falls into a pit where we have no clue where it leads. He uses the force to survive. He was cut below the vital organs.

      The emperor fell into the reactor. He is a goner. I think the explosion after he fell in pretty much clinched it, don’t you agree?

      Lastly, you think the frozen in carbonite thing was only tried once? Sidious could have easily frozen him to be revived in the event the Sith are defeated.

    • Think for a moment. Darth Maul cut in half falls into a pit where we have no clue where it leads. He uses the force to survive. He was cut below the vital organs.

      The emperor fell into the reactor. He is a goner. I think the explosion after he fell in pretty much clinched it, don’t you agree?

      Lastly, you think the frozen in carbonite thing was only tried once? Sidious could have easily frozen him to be revived in the event the Sith are defeated.

    • Think for a moment. Darth Maul cut in half falls into a pit where we have no clue where it leads. He uses the force to survive. He was cut below the vital organs.
      The emperor fell into the reactor. He is a goner. I think the explosion after he fell in pretty much clinched it, don’t you agree?
      Lastly, you think the frozen in carbonite thing was only tried once? Sidious could have easily frozen him to be revived in the event the Sith are defeated.

    • Think for a moment. Darth Maul cut in half falls into a pit where we have no clue where it leads. He uses the force to survive. He was cut below the vital organs. The emperor fell into the reactor. He is a goner. I think the explosion after he fell in pretty much clinchedit, don’t you agree?
      Lastly, you think the frozen in carbonite thing was only tried once? Sidious could have easily frozen him to be revived in the event the Sith are defeated.

    • Think for a moment. Darth Maul cut in half falls into a pit where we have no clue where it leads. He uses the force to survive. He was cut below the vital organs. The emperor fell into the reactor. He is a goner. I think the explosion after he fell in pretty much clinchedit, don’t you agree? Lastly, you think the frozen in carbonite thing was only tried once? Sidious could have easily frozen him to be revived in the event the Sith are defeated.

    • Think for a moment. Darth Maul cut in half falls into a pit where we have no clue where it leads. He uses the force to survive. He was cut below the vital organs. The emperor fell into the reactor. He is a goner. I think the explosion after he fell in pretty much clinched it, don’t you agree? Lastly, you think the frozen in carbonite thing was only tried once? Sidious could have easily frozen him to be revived in the event the Sith are defeated.

      • @vigla
        for the emperor – the explosion after he fell would suggest that he is a goner (and he should stay that way)
        but what if he cloned himself in secret? – like jango did so that it aged normally – then he could come back in the new episodes younger
        and he would be more likely to use that as contingency rather than relying on his apprentice that only made it through one film, the emperor would want to keep the power for himself rather than trusting another to finish the job

        uses the force to survive? – how so, are we suppose to believe that just cos a jedi/sith wants to survive that he can in spite of any trauma that occurs to his physical body
        cos that is a slippery slope (mace is still alive as well in that case after his fall and loss of hand and the rest of the jedi council are ok as well since they were only shot)

        if these characters can survive on will alone then by the logic of the films it seems that funeral pyre is the only way to kill a jedi or a sith (as with qui-gon and vadar)
        or when the character accepts death (like obi-wan and yoda)

        i suppose when it comes down to it
        you’re ok with bringing back Maul
        i am not
        but both ways are fine (dont have to agree)
        we’ll just have to wait and see what disney cooks up

  17. A Star Wars movie taking place a long, long (, long, long, long…) time ago, depicting the early years of the sith order would be great. (The same way Silmarillion movies would be awesome. Though, Silmarillion would be much, much better.)

    • Agreed on all of that. A Knights of the old Republic tale may be considered, or something similar. As you say though, they’d have to amend the opening text to add more “long”s to it, and if the story is set further away as well… It could get silly at some point. “A long, long, long time ago in a galaxy far, far, far way far away.”. Not that elegant. As for Sillmarillion, isn’t that supposedly the source of the material that will pas out the next two Hobbit films? Isn’t that where the blue skin monster from the first Hobbit film comes from?

      • Just to briefly weigh in on hobbit/silmarillion thing
        Source material for the hobbit movie trilogy – the hobbit book, appendices from lord of the rings (the stuff after the story) and some extra transcript stuff that was found (think it was about 300 pages or so)

        The hobbit films are essentially (but not limited to) 3 overlapping stories, bilbos’, thorins’ and gandalfs’
        The hobbit book only deals with things from Bilbos’ perspective, which has limited scope (hobbits are not overly concerned with the dealing of large folk, they don’t care what games the high lords play)
        the appendices from lord of the rings detail how the journey taken in the hobbit affect the larger picture, as well as filling in some of the gaps (where does gandalf keep running off to, what’s happening to mirkwood, etc)

        By putting the extra stuff in the films it allows the hobbit to serve as a more organic prequel to The Lord of the rings trilogy, otherwise to many questions or missed opportunities (radagast, dol guldur, saruman, would hardly have been mentioned, let alone made it into the films) would have been to criticism of the hobbit film,
        the book could have easily been 1 film, but it would have felt a bit more like a standalone film and some of the battles/fight scenes would have either been cut or severely shortened due to the focus on bilbo

        The rights for the silmarillion are not with the movie studio though (at least not last time I checked), and as awesome and epic that the silmarillion would be in film (would need to be more than one film though) but if I remember rightly the decision is down to Tolkiens family and a number of them are not big fans of Peter jacksons LoTR trilogy let alone his hobbit movies and thus have little plan to allow the silmarillion to be made into movies,
        but maybe in time they’ll loosen up a bit and we can see the

        • Fascinating! I really thought some of that book was the source of the Hobbit embellishments, but now it sounds like the best missing piece that may never get filmed! In addition to your solid info, I know that the Hobbit was very much a children’s story, and that when Tolkien produced the darkly adult themed LOTR as a sequel (and a single immense volume at that!) the publishers were rather surprised. Revisiting the Hobbit story with an eye towards the culminating evil and adult themes ahead suits me great at the moment, but it’s the original tale I will be reading to the youngsters in my family. Also I hope the next film seems more satisfying, important and worthy than the last one did. The trilogy format didn’t seem completely justified by some of the meandering and revisiting in my opinion, so I am anxious to see the project improve. That ugly goblin king was wasted time I thought, but the material should be good enough to finish strong. Thanks for the insight, JLAvenger, and may the inevitable JL movie walk the fine line of not ruining solo films to follow!

  18. I would be surprise if Maul returns to film because it seems like Lucasfilm/Disney is putting the prequel era behind them at this point, a strategy that I wholeheartedly, enthusiastically support. Maul was a decent character, but the last thing needed right now is a reminder of The Phantom Menace.

    Regarding the Clone Wars…let’s just say that while it was fairly good overall and sometimes great, not every storytelling decision that was made was a good one. Maul’s culture/race was re-introduced in an episode arc that totally screwed with an existing Expanded Universe planet (Dathomir) in a way that really annoyed and disappointed me.

    Please, let’s have some new villains. We may not get Thrawn, but at least stop directly recycling the past.

    • Agreed I hope nothing from the prequels are in these movies. It’s time for something different.

    • Agreed! Wasn’t it bizzare that Maul went from being a nearly silent adversary with dignity and mystique and natural grace to becoming a spastic, never-shuts-up tweaker with wonky metal legs? It should’ve been another character! Speaking of which, we can get Ray Park to play a different sword-wielding badass! Keeping the choreography tight and believable would be nice, and more important than more Maul. Finally, if any of the live action tv shows materialize or they keep making tangent films, we may yet see some of the canonized bridging tale of Force Unleashed. The main guy has a robot who appears as Maul for an intimidating duel. As an excuse to revisit a dead character and see him in action, it wasn’t half bad. A bit like having old star trek characters cameo by way of the holo deck, which is to say not that compelling a cross over, but it could justify itself by being a fantastic sequence…

      • Uh, no. Maul ends up with regular legs eventually. If you watched the clone wars at all, you would know that the dialogue was not bad at all. Mostly it showed that he was quite successful at becoming powerful. Clearly you have not watched all the episodes.

  19. F**+ man… They have to do a Jedi vs Sith seven samurai type movie….
    I think this should be the first of the non Star Wars sequel movies. It has so much potential, the fan boys and all movie goers would love it!!!
    It would be wicked!!!!!!

  20. God man… They have to do a Jedi vs Sith seven samurai type movie….
    I think this should be the first of the non Star Wars sequel movies. It has so much potential, the fan boys and all movie goers would love it!!!
    It would be wicked!!!!!!

  21. hell yes. I loved darth maul and thought the character was perfect in every way. Mysterious, silent, DOUBLE LIGHTSABER. this guy was the perfect villain. I wouldn’t mind a return.

  22. Darth Maul?

    Echoing the words of Vader, “NOOO!!!”.

    • You mean the words that were cut into the new, ruined version of the movie instead of his plagued silence? I’m disappointed.

  23. How about bringing Ray back playing a new villain or even a badass Jedi?

    • @ Michael

      I like that idea.

    • Excellent idea. Hire the man to consult and create fight choreography, then build a scene or character to suit his talents. After the talent he brought to the fight designs and the way we finally got to see amazing saber duels, I would have him work on all the films in some capacity.

  24. It could definitely work, I don’t know if he dies in clone wars though. His appearance really helped the show earning Sam Witwer his first Emmy/Daytime Nomination and the show two Emmy/Daytime wins and a Critic’s nomination.

  25. Bringing Darth Maul back would be great. He was great, but terribly wasted in ep 1. How it could happen, I have no idea. As much as I loved The Clone Wars, I didn care for how he was brought back there, so it would have to be something better than that.

  26. I hope they put the Yuuzhan Vong War on screen

  27. I hope midichlorian are never uttered again! Lol the force should remain mystical and undefined as in the originals. Seriously, if they are simply inner cellular orangelles ala mitochondria then what stop someone from engeneering an army of hyper enhanced force soldiers? Or augmenting themselves to godlike albilities. It’s just dumb and cheapens the whole idea/premise behind the force. Furthermore, if the entire galaxy (reguardless of race) have em then panspermia on a galactic scale would have taken place, all life from planets with midiclhorians would have them.. Plants, animals.. Why havent any of them every exibited force abilities? Since it seems to be innate and can be controlled more so conciously by sentient beings, why cant there be animals that have at least evolved the ability to generate basic force fields or other basic like life force vampirism etc.. Just a thought.

    • Interesting point but I liked the “grounded” approach in explaining the force powers the Jedi have and you have to remember not everyone in that universe are born with it. Making a synthetic version of those cells wouldn’t work either it would be like taking more than one multivitamin to expect it to boost your energy when in reality too much of a good thing can be a bad thing and the rules I’m sure would apply here.

      Also, every living species are genetically different and therefore because we have eyes doesn’t mean all living things can see. Snakes and sharks are blind but use other sensory methods to feed and know where they are going. In your case the with midichlorians they would have different affects on different life forms or none at all for that matter. In real life these “midichlorians” already exist as either nanotechnology or reprogrammed bacteria to fulfill an objective to enhance man’s lifespan minus the supernatural powers.

      • What if they were litterally harvested from other people. Imagine requiring thousands of people needing to be “processed” to obtain just a few viable midichlorians that could be implanted into a new host body’s own cells. Alot of story potential here. Agreed synthetic is poitnless and with the crazy tech in SW if they havent managed it (enhance force powers via tech it wont happen). It is stated that the midichlorians are what make being aware and able to tap in the force, Anakin is special because his midichlorian numbers are the highest these seen in a long time. Just saying via tch they could implant more into a person (which would have to be sourced out as described above). but having the force be dependant on biology it just opens up the whole possibility of augmentation via cellular manipulations (which is much easier than dna manipulation since your just removing these sub-cellular structures from a donors cells and transplanting them to a recipient.

        Interesting take on the various species angle. Would be cool to see eyeless beings that just use the force to see or some such.

  28. Star Wars is moving forward,post The Clone Wars era,season five took care of that era for good,everthing coming up for Star Wars,for television and motion pictures,is picking up from The Original Triology era(Star Wars:Rebels) and post Episode 6:Return of the Jedi(Episode 7),Star Wars is always evolving,it doesn’t need to rest on Darth Maul,for a cool kick-ass villian for the Jedi of the future to fight,IMO.

  29. A Darth Maul solo movie > a Boba Fett solo movie

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