‘Dark Knight Rises’ Trailer Discussion, Bane’s Voice & Robin Easter Egg

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The Dark Knight Rises trailer has the Internet’s undivided attention at the moment, and as with any major movie release, what was revealed in the trailer has sparked even more questions and discussions.

After taking a survey of some of the most pressing questions and concerns fans are voicing, we have a little breakdown of the TDKR trailer that will hopefully clarify a few things.

Click on any of the topics below to jump ahead to that discussion:

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DARK KNIGHT RISES TRAILER: STUNNING OR UNDERWHELMING?

At this point it almost seems impossible that people could be disappointed with a Christopher Nolan Batman movie, but in the aftermath of the premiere of the Dark Knight Rises trailer, there is a sector of moviegoers out there who have yet to be impressed with anything they’ve seen from The Dark Knight Rises.

For the sake of comparison, check out the second Dark Knight Rises trailer and compare it to the second trailer that was released for the The Dark Knight back in late 2007:

A quick scan of our comment sections tell us that some people think this new trailer was still too much of a teaser and not enough of a tantalizer – while others still are complaining that they saw enough to know that Nolan’s luck directing this franchise has run out.  Of course, above all the cacophony of complaints and criticisms, the cries of ‘That looks so epically awesome friggin cool!’ can be heard as loudly as the mysterious chant of the ‘Bane chorus.’

Upon inspection, these TDK and TDKR trailers follow an obvious pattern of setting up the thematic arc of the film, while primarily focusing on the primary villain that Batman will be facing. If you notice, The Dark Knight trailer gave away nothing about the Harvey Dent subplot of the film;  if one were judging Dark Knight by that trailer, it’s pretty much a ‘Batman vs. The Joker’ show – but we now know how much more complex (for better or worse) the actual movie was.

With TDKR having more characters, a bigger scope, and an obligation to bring everything in the trilogy to a close, expect a few surprises and curve balls, to say the least.

So how do you feel about the Dark Knight Rises trailer – love it? Hate it? Eager to see more?

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The issue of Bane’s Voice…

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BANE’S VOICE: (WHAT DID HE JUST SAY?)

“Masks” might be a thematic focus of Nolan’s Batman films, but “voice” has been the bane (no pun) of his filmmaking experiences with Batman Begins and especially The Dark Knight. In fact, franchise star Christian Bale’s ‘Batman voice’ has gone from being something that riled fanboys, to an official part of the pop-culture zeitgeist, ripe for parody at any and every turn.

If one voice wasn’t enough of an issue, now it looks like Nolan has two on his hands (issues, that is): Ever since The Dark Knight Rises IMAX prologue and/or the new trailer hit theaters, there’s been one point of near-consensus: It’s hard to understand a word that Bane (Tom Hardy) is saying.

THR is reporting that the Internet complaints about Bane’s digitally-altered voice (muffled by his hi-tech S&M mask) have reached the ears of those at Warner Bros., and the studio isn’t taking the mater lightly. One person supposedly working on Dark Knight Rises was quoted as saying he is “scared to death” about “the Bane problem.” Rumors have it that the studio is pushing for Nolan to go in another direction with the voice, but the filmmaker is standing firm on the issue (though he will be tweaking the audio levels of the film in editing).

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Having seen the prologue for myself, I can say that the problem is a considerable one – though maybe not for the reasons a lot of people think. Unusual voices are a running theme for the costumed characters in Nolan’s Batman films (The Scarecrow, Joker, Bane and Batman himself) – and at this point, frankly, I’m used to it. Bane’s voice is weird, for sure, but far from inaudible.

The problem with the prologue (as I saw it) was that the settings in the IMAX theater I was in were such that the background sounds (the roar of a plane engine in particular) were so loud that they drowned out ALL dialogue in the scene.

Take dialogue that’s hard to make out, add an odd voice (like Bane’s), and yes, you indeed have an issue. Funny enough: other viewers in other IMAX theaters said they could hear Bane’s dialogue just fine, and had more of an issue with his strange accent. And though it’s not crystal-clear, Bane’s line of dialogue in the new trailer isn’t impossible to make out. (“When Gotham is ash, you have my permission to die.”)

It seems that sound editing will make or break this aspect of the film – hopefully Nolan tweaks the levels in a way that Bane’s voice booms. Aside from keeping it audible, in my opinion the character sounds great. If you happen to be in the camp of people who hate the voice, you’ll sure to get a kick out of the fact that there is already a “Muffled Bane” parody account on Twitter.

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Robin logo in Dark Knight Rises trailer?

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ROBIN EASTER EGG in DARK KNIGHT RISES?

It seems like a lot of Fans are getting worked up over something that appeared in The Dark Knight Rises trailer – namely, the scene where Bane attacks the Gotham football stadium.

In the crowd are a group of fans holding a sign that reads “Rogue,” the name of the Gotham football team. The “R” in “Rogues” happens to be shaped like he “R” that was used in the title logo of the ’90s Robin comic books, ergo leading many fans to run wild with speculation that Robin will indeed be appearing in The Dark Knight Rises - despite Christopher Nolan’s repeated claims that the character would not appear in his cinematic universe.

Check out the image that started all the hubub, below:

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As was to be expected, this whole Robin rumor has been dismantled as quickly as it started circulating. The sign was in no way a secret hint – or even a legitimate Easter egg, for that matter. Empire tracked down some info on the matter, and had this less-than-thrilling truth to share with the masses:

“The day this scene was shot, there were 10,000 extras there at Heinz Field. Most of them brought their own props and costumes, so clearly one guy has been smart and, when drawing the ‘R’ for the ‘Rogues’ signs (for the Rogues are Gotham’s team), he’s drawn it in the style of a Robin logo, off his own back. So this is no more a ‘clue’ that Robin will be in the film than the presence of the Batman logo on a door during [Nolan's short film] ‘Following’ was a ‘clue’ that Nolan would one day make a Batman movie”.

So there you have it folks: No Robin in Dark Knight Rises - and no, it’s not going to be Joseph Gordon-Levitt. This was just one crafty fan who had the foresight to give the fanboys out there a little bit extra to enjoy. Take it for what it is and let’s all move on to the next rumor.

The Dark Knight Rises will be in theaters on July 20, 2012

Source: Empire, THR,

Robin Easter Egg Image from Graphic Policy

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  1. The person who wrote this article clearly thinks that these “assumptions” are a bunch of geeks going crazy, but there are more easter eggs in the film that show that the Blake character is going to become Robin.

    There is a whole video on Youtube discussing it.

    • Yeah except guess what? He is Robin. I just watched it.

      • He never puts a suit on that was just to tease people like you.Since Nolan’s not doing another BATMAN.

  2. THERE IS NO ROBIN IN NOLAN’S MOVIES

    • erm, your wrong, watch the movie :L

    • Haha yes Robin is in TDKR. Just doesn’t wear a costume, so it’s Robin through the Prism of the Nolan Bat-verse.

  3. Both Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale have been very vocal about Robin in the past. Christopher Nolan has said that Robin wouldn’t fit the story he’s trying to tell, and Christian Bale went as far as saying “[Robin] is the most humiliating role in Batman”.

    Read more: http://batman-news.com/2011/02/05/the-dark-knight-rises-to-include-robin-dont-count-on-it/#ixzz1uF91qMb3

  4. I just wanted to add that Chris Nolan saying, in regard to the villian, “it won’t be the Riddler” isn’t the same thing as “the Riddler won’t be in the movie at all”. It also depends on what his definition of “the villian” is. In the Hush storyline, Riddler uses one of the Lazarus pits.

    • I doubt the Riddler is part of the movie either!!

  5. for the people that believe that robin will be in the movie because of that R, and the strong presence of Joseph Gordon Levitt… You are thinking way too far into it. Nolan has said time and time again that Robin is not a character he is interested in doing, and Bale didn’t want Robin’s character involved as long as he was Batman either.

  6. I can’t wait to see ROBIN’s new costume …awesome.

    • Levitt will be a Robin of sorts.

      Once Batman gets disabled, Levitt will have to don the mask and try to kick butt the best he can.

      Once he gets pulverized, the real Batman will be able to finish the job because Bane and bad guys will be softened up.

  7. So why does the imdb page for John Blake jump to a Robin page?

  8. just saw the movie, no superman trailer off course because WB are a bunch of cows. but anyway

    10/10 movie

    no flaws for me

    is robin in the movie?

    watch the movie and find out for yourself.

  9. Gee, I bet you feel completey dumb.

  10. okay i havent seen the movie yet but from what ive read nolan and bale havent lied about robin not being in the movie. if he wasnt in costume he wasnt robin. and if it’s true that nolan isnt going to make any other Bat flix then it was just a nod to get all us geeks in an uproar. pour a little gas on the publicity bonfire. obviously it worked extremely well because all of you are going friggin nuts over it. calm down already and get off your self indulgent high horses.go on to the next thing that really doesnt matter and talk crap about it.

    he wasnt robin if he wasnt in costume.

    • His name was ROBIN.
      That’s that.

  11. do you always believe what the most deceptive and secretive director of our generation has to say? or do you discect it, analyse it and then wait to see what he has to show you? some of you are really taking things too far here.

  12. I laugh at you all. Why would the Director want to spoil his own movie?

  13. just watched it Robin is in it the whole movie as a matter of fact and the superman trailer was shown

  14. “So there you have it folks: No Robin in Dark Knight Rises – and no, it’s not going to be Joseph Gordon-Levitt.”

    How stupid do you feel now?

    How Nolan introduced his idea of a Robin is absolutely fantastic. It was subtle and intelligent. Not the pesky circus kid that annoys the crap out of Batman to be his side-kick. Instead it’s a guy who connects with Bruce/Batman on a whole new-level, Bruce/Batman guides him and advices him. It really worked well with the movie.

    • Well said, Man – felt a little like Cap’s Bucky, who was very well handled too..

      • I do agree Bucky was handled well. I think Nolan’s use of Blake/Robin had a more significant impact on the film as a whole. It’s actually quite a masterpiece how all the characters were used, and how they intertwined with the story. A lot of people I know love it for entirely different reasons to me; e.g. just because. I also think Michael Caine had one of the better performances. I think Christian Bale isn’t that good of an actor; however, he does well in choosing roles that suit him well enough that he doesn’t really have to act.

  15. Robin is in TDKR. Hint is that he is an orphan and his full name includes robin. Also, John Blake rhymes with Tim Drake, or at least sounds like it, and for those of you who didnt get that, Tim Drake is one of the many “robins”. Also the coordinates to the batcave pretty much sealed the deal. However that R had nothing to do with is so at leasr you arent completely wrong.

    • Continuing on what i previously said, TDKR really used robin (his name is too long to prove a point) to prove that anyone can be batman. I talked to some people that were dissapointed that batman was in practically none of the movie, but the series has always been about how batman is an icon, not a person. This being said, and sorry for my little rant there, robin may be robin or batman. Nobody will know unless there is a ripoff like at the oscars after inception yu saw a shot of the top fall over. (Those of you who didnt get that go watch inception) Nolan created robin so that yes we wouldgo off like this, but so that we would see that even if the movies end, a hero will still be there because batman was not a person at all, but an idea. And I trust what he did with this cliffhanger because that is his strongsuit. Heck, disagree all you want but this is what we got and no amount of you whining is gonna get that back. So deal with the robin/batman/levitt thing and get on with your life. I could go on forever but i font want this to be marked as spam so thats my opinion.

      • You don’t need to apologise or justify your opinion.

        You are right. I said above – it’s a very clever and intelligent use of a character and concept. I wouldn’t worry about the percentage who don’t get and the super fans who just want rub cock with Christian Bale in his bat-suit. Nah. The only complaints I’ve heard are from those who haven’t watched and read bout the ending. It seems lame that people would A. Claim to be a massive fan but not go to see it on the opening weekend B. Look for spoilers before watching it. C. Complain like a b****.

  16. Just some extra info on Nolan’s brilliant nod to Robin in Rises for those who don’t get it:

    In the Batman universe, there are a few Robins, with John Blake being a product of the three of them. Nolan took aspects from Dick Grayson, Jason Todd and Tim Drake – and combined them to create Robin John Blake:

    (1) Dick Grayson – a morally righteous orphan, much like Bruce and Blake, who became a police officer.

    (2) Jason Todd – his anger issues are much like Blake’s tendency to hide his anger and desire to lash out behind a smile.

    3) Tim Drake – much like Blake, Tim becomes Robin by figuring out Batman’s identity, which is probably the strongest resemblance to the character.

    It was also a clever attempt by Nolan to incorporate Batman’s sidekick Robin in a way that would fit within the grounded context of his universe and without it being overtly stated as such. Since Christopher Nolan has a preference for understated themes in his movies, featuring Robin as he was in the comics would have been overkill. Hiding his legal name until the end allowed this to be used effectively.

    • The minute Blake started to explain to Bruce Wayne why the boys home was important I knew he was Robin. I thought it was absolutely perfect. I always preferred the Batman stories where Robin was a source of support without being super cheesy.

      I don’t know that a line of Robin movies would work. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried something more like Night Wing instead.