‘The Dark Knight Rises’ Review

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 The Dark Knight Rises Review

While Nolan’s Batman finale isn’t perfect, and may not be the greatest installment of the trilogy, it does manage to solidify this three-part tale of the Batman legend as one of the best ever told.

At the time of writing this  The Dark Knight Rises review, it is impossible to view the finale to the story of Bruce Wayne and his crime-fighting alter-ego, Batman, as just a movie. The film arrives on a wave of massive hype, yet it is still trying to outrun the long shadow of its predecessor, The Dark Knight - a film that not only set a new bar for what a comic book movie could be, but also blew away critics, snagged two Oscars, and excited fans to the tune of a $1 billion worldwide box office. TDK also changed the course of the industry by launching the “full IMAX” trend in filmmaking, and even coerced the Oscars to expand its Best Picture category to include more nominees (after Nolan’s film was snubbed).

In that sense, it’s almost impossible for The Dark Knight Rises to meet the level of expectation facing it – but has Chris Nolan managed to end his Batman legend on a note that will at once please fans and critics, tie off the story in proper fashion, and still deliver the biggest and best blockbuster movie experience of the year?

The answer to those looming questions is…sort of. The Dark Knight Rises does bring Nolan’s trilogy full-circle to a well-earned conclusion, and features a number of big blockbuster moments and will likely please many fans (and critics) – but it also stumbles in its execution of said conclusion, never really captures the sheer spectacle of films like The Dark Knight or Inception, and will ultimately leave some fans (and critics) cold with its very unique take on the Batman mythos.

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Christian Bale and Michael Caine in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’

Combining elements of Batman comic book storylines like “Knightfall,” “Knight Quest,” “No Man’s Land,” and “The Dark Knight Returns,” we pick up eight years after the events of The Dark Knight and are re-introduced to a Gotham City where organized crime has been effectively curtailed – thanks to the strict mandates of the “Harvey Dent Act.” Of course, that progress has been made based on a lie about how Harvey Dent died – a lie that has nearly crushed the spirits of Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman) and Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale), the latter of whom has all but vanished into reclusion, as his “true” face, The Batman, is no longer needed (or wanted) on the streets.

However, the sudden appearance of a costumed thief (Anne Hathaway) heralds the rise of a great evil from deep within the bowels of Gotham: Bane (Tom Hardy), a ruthless and cunning terrorist who has come to the city to enact a plan that will take everything both Bruce Wayne and Batman have been fighting for, and twist it into a weapon used to destroy Gotham and the souls of its people. Bruce tries to don the cape and cowl again, but his time away has made both his spirit and body soft, while Bane is as hardened a villain as they come.

With foes at every turn, and his city under siege, Bruce Wayne must rediscover the strength within that made him Batman in the first place – and this time, he’ll need help from friends like Gordon, Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman), the unscrupulous Selina Kyle (Hathaway) and rookie cop John Blake (Joseph Gordon-Levitt), if he hopes to win the war against an army of criminals and mercenaries that Bane sets loose on the streets of Gotham.

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Director Chris Nolan has crafted his most visually sophisticated Batman movie yet, and from a directorial standpoint, The Dark Knight Rises is a pretty stunning achievement. From the set pieces, to the brilliant visual iconography, to the action sequences that seem to never stop and almost always thrill (at least somewhat), the film is just visually impressive. With a significant chunk of the footage having been shot using IMAX cameras, TDKR isn’t just visually impressive; it’s visually impressive on a massive scale. No question about it: pay for the IMAX upgrade, because without it, you’re only getting half of the experience this film offers.

Batman Begins was a standard superhero origin tale (as uniquely constructed by Chris Nolan); The Dark Knight was more of an intricate crime drama than a superhero flick. In terms of story, The Dark Knight Rises is very much a war drama – a fact that may be off-putting to some viewers looking for “the comic book movie experience.” Those who still (stubbornly) cling to the notion that the Nolan Bat-films should be more pulpy fun and less gritty drama will find that this finale delivers even more of what they disliked about TDK - the dark and gritty tone, the lengthy and convoluted story – this time without the balance of a villain (and performance) as stunningly charismatic and fun as Heath Ledger’s Joker.

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Bane (Tom Hardy) in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’

As for the villain we do get: Tom Hardy’s Bane isn’t as lively as The Joker – and some fanboys will say not as complex or engaging as his comic book counterpart – but he does serve his purpose here, which is to function not as a unique character so much as an exaggerated vision of our worst fears about terrorism, embodied in a man. Hardy manages to bring the villain a bit of depth using just his eyes and body language as tools of expression – an impressive performance that may get largely overlooked due to the (sure to be pervasive) sentiment that Bane isn’t as “cool” a villain as someone like The Joker.

Anne Hathaway offers the biggest surprise performance, shedding her own doe-eyed persona to fully inhabit the character of Selina Kyle, a master thief who plays by her own set of often ambiguous morals. Selina (better known, but never referred to in the film as “Catwoman”) steals virtually every scene she’s in, thanks to a mix of sultry allure, sharp wit, and impressive physicality. Hathaway definitely leaves her own stamp on the character, delivering in both the action and dramatic moments required of her.

To his credit, Nolan’s “Catwoman” is easily his best-written and casted female character to date – an area where the acclaimed director has been continuously criticized. By comparison, Marion Cotillard’s Miranda Tate is pretty much a standard Nolan one-note  female character (despite some effort to develop her), and doesn’t prove to be as interesting as she could’ve been.

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Selina Kyle (Anne Hathaway) in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’

Joseph Gordon-Levitt steps up to offer a compelling performance as John Blake, an obscure Batman comic book character refashioned here as a young cop who struggles with the idea of working within the system of law and order, leading him to ally with Batman and Commissioner Gordon. Levitt has the tendency to seem boyish in a lot of his roles - Inception(500) Days of Summer - but in this film he  broadens his range as a mature tough-as-nails cop with a big heart and sharp mind. In the middle act of the film – where screenwriters Chris Nolan, Johnathan Nolan and David S. Goyer threaten to let things meander too far – Gordon-Levitt (with a helping hand from Hathaway) manages to carry the film, despite the fact that he’s wearing a simple police uniform, rather than some elaborate superhero costume.

The returning cast members are split down the middle in terms of what they’re given to do in this final chapter. Christian Bale gets to exercise much more acting muscle outside of the mask this time – and in many ways, Dark Knight Rises is a Bruce Wayne story, rather than a Batman story. Bale brings his character to a close with a nuanced and carefully-layered performance, and if there are any who still doubt that he is the best Bruce Wayne/Batman we’ve seen, it’ll be hard for them to prove that point once they’ve had a look at Dark Knight Rises.

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John Blake (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) and Commissioner Gordon (Gary Oldman) in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’

Michael Caine trades his usual comic relief schtick for a surprisingly earnest and emotional turn as Bruce Wayne’s butler/confidant/surrogate father, Alfred Pennyworth. Here we find an Alfred worn down by his own failure to spare Bruce the life of darkness and pain he’s fashioned for himself – and in that sense, Nolan and Caine delve deeper into the character than any other depiction – on the comic book page or screen – ever has. It’s a rewarding venture.

Gary Oldman (Commissioner Gordon) and Morgan Freeman (Lucius Fox) are given far less to do in this film, as their functions in the narrative – moral support and guidance for Bruce Wayne/Batman – are largely delegated to some of the new players (Levitt). Other character actors make appearances in some minor roles, but by and large, the ensemble works very well. Hans Zimmer’s music for this film only captures a fraction (albeit, a large one) of the greatness found in his Dark Knight score, while conversely, the photography and cinematography of longtime Nolan collaborator Wally Pfister are better than ever.

The Nolan Brothers and David S. Goyer’s script for Dark Knight Rises will probably be the biggest point of contention amongst fans. As stated, this is a war drama (with obvious shades of A Tale of Two Cities influence) but the story is able to incorporate real-world socio-political subtext into its narrative, without leaning on it too heavily. This is both a good and bad thing, since that timely subtext provides substance to go along with this pulpy world of superhero fantasy – but ultimately, the filmmakers decide to elevate the pulp over other food for thought, negating much of what that rich subtext tries to introduce.

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Batman and Bane in ‘The Dark Knight Rises’

Of the three lengthy acts in the film, Act 1 is something of a rushed affair (handled with the usual Nolan break-neck-speed editing techniques), while Act 2 is a montage of events that push the new characters center stage, while the established primary characters are relegated to the background (a transition that, again, will leave some fans cold). Act 3 of The Dark Knight Rises brings things to an end in spectacular fashion, with big blockbuster set pieces and a poignant, rousing, conclusion that will leave fans celebrating the character so many of them have loved or been inspired by.

While Nolan’s Batman finale isn’t perfect, and may not be the greatest installment of the trilogy, it does manage to solidify this three-part tale of the Batman legend as one of the best ever told – in any medium – while also delivering (one of) the best blockbuster movie experiences of the summer.

The Dark Knight Rises is now playing in theaters everywhere. It is rated PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and action, some sensuality and language.

For an in-depth discussion of the film by the Screen Rant team check out our Dark Knight Rises episode of the SR Underground podcast.

Please Do Not discuss Dark Knight Rises SPOILERS here! For discussion of the film, head over to our Dark Knight Rises SPOILER DISCUSSION page. For the “True IMAX” Experience, check out this list of 70mm IMAX Theaters.

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4 out of 5

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  1. Why read the comments of some person you don’t know if you haven’t seen the movie? IF you don’t want anything spoiled just read the review and move on. Geez

    So, The Dark Knight Rises… the OTHER big gun this year.
    I just came back from the theater (sadly there is no IMAX where I live, so I had to watch it in regular 2D).

    Christian Bale delivered in all aspects and played the part of Batman/Bruce Wayne much better than in the previous films. He showed so much emotion and pain in this film, and for the first time watching a Batman movie, I felt the urge to stand up and cheer him on. That said, his Batman voice was still wrong and at times he struggled to maintain “screen-presence” amongst the other actors in the movie during some scenes.
    Anne Hathaway was a big surprise. I was very unhappy when they announced she would be playing Catwoman and the costume they provided her with wasn’t to my liking either, but after seeing the film, I can safely say I was WRONG. Her performance was very memorable and she stole every scene she was in.
    Michael Cane… well, what can be said about the man. He just blew away expectations and even made me tear up on more than one occasion.
    Tom Hardy’s Bane wasn’t as good as it should have though. He did the best he could and he certainly wasn’t a bad villain, but his look and voice just didn’t work for me (a few people in the audience even started to chuckle when he gave one of his speeches). That said, his brawl with Batman was incredibly powerful and brutal and I’m very glad that they included the iconic moment from the comics.
    Joseph Gordon-Levitt also stole every scene that he was in and basically carried a big part of the second act. I can’t really say that much about him without spoiling parts of the movie, but he was truly exceptional.
    Sadly, the other actors like Gary Oldman, Morgan Freeman and Marion Cotillard didn’t impress me that much. They served their purpose well enough, but seeing as they were meant to serve as crucial parts of the story, I felt let down mostly.

    The story was great as well, but there were definitely one or two plot holes (and I don’t use that term lightly) nearing act 3. I think ultimately, the plot of the movie gave in a little due to it’s sheer scale. There were too many things going on at certain times and that made the focus of the film shift a little too much. Still, for the most part it was great: very entertaining and emotional. The symbolism of the “fire rising” will stay with me for a very long time and the ending… well, let’s just say it was one of the best endings to a trilogy that I’ve ever seen.

    The pacing on the other hand, wasn’t that great though. It’s one of the few gripes I have with Nolan’s films (as much as I love his films). The first act felt rushed and the second act dragged too much for my liking (despite some truly epic scenes).
    A slightly shorter run-time and a bit more focus on the important scenes would have helped it along much more I think…

    On to the action! The practical effects were very well done and, the CGI was good as well. The thing is though, the balance between practical effects and CGI wasn’t always right (too much practical effects in one scene, and too much CGI in the next) which made a few of the CGI moments feel a little too unreal at times. Still, overall it was truly epic.
    The fight choreography was a big improvement upon the previous films. Catwoman moved and acted fluidly in combat and Batman was, to my surprise, much better as well. His movements still come across as stiff and forced to me, but it is largely due to the suit… His first fight with Bane was almost flawless though.

    The score by Hans Zimmer accompanied the film very well (much like his previous Batman scores), but it’s not something that I’d buy and listen to on it’s own. One or two of the tracks felt out of place in the specific scenes they were used in, but the other 90% it was wonderful and definitely helped to bring even more gravitas and emotion to the film.

    In short: I think The Dark Knight Rises is the best of the trilogy, and while I might just be caught up in the scale, emotion and “epicness” of it all, I doubt my view on the film will change. Whether I’ll still feel the same way about the movie after my second viewing, or even in a few years (for instance, the more I watch The Dark Knight, the less I seem to enjoy it), I wouldn’t be able to say, but I can say that at the point of writing this, I’d give it a well deserved 9.5 out of 10.

    • I really enjoyed your review. You comprehensively put some very great thoughts down. Honestly, the more you watch the movie, the less the pace bothers you. I agree with you COMPLETELY about liking TDK less and less every time I watch it. It just starts to drag on after so many views. I’ve seen TDKR 3 times already and I still have the urge to watch it more! The pace is gripping and the movie has a complex, engaging plot to compliment that pace.

      I do have to disagree about your view on Gary Oldman and Morgan Freeman, though. I think they did a great job with the roles they had. The storyline kind of left Freeman behind a bit, but he really wasn’t a large role in Begins either. He was left to give Bruce some stuff and act as simply part of the Wayne board. He wasn’t really necessary for the plot in this movie though, unlike in TDK. It didn’t really bother me, though. Bruce always met with Freeman in his down time as Batman, which didn’t really happen in this movie.

      I also wanted to ask you, what did you see as plot holes? You can be as general as you like, but I would like to see if I could help you better see the lack thereof.

      I agree with the 9.5 out of 10. Great review!

  3. This was an awesome film; a truly incredible amalgamation of Nolan’s direction and storytelling, I had an eyegasm, due to the awesome and underrated cinematography by Wally Pfister and an eyegasm due to the epic score by Hans Zimmer, which takes this film to a higher level, that soundtrack is still resonating in my head despite the fact I have seen the film 18 hours ago. I was pleasantly surprised by how good Anne Hathaway was as Catwoman, and amazed by how good Bane (Gotham’s Reckoning) was. The battles between Bane and Batman, and the battle for Gotham to reclaim itself from the Bane’s grip is as epic and visceral as classic boxing matches between Ali and Foreman, Corrales Vs Castillo or Ward Vs Gatti III. The ironic aspect is that like the aforementioned boxing matches Bane helps Batman become what he needs to be, to save Gotham, by taking him to the Lazarus pits (for me one of the best parts of the film) and allow him to rise Christ-like to save Gotham.

    For DC to not only survive but excel, Nolan’s inventiveness in his storytelling,directorial skills and editing) is needed.The beautiful darkness in Nolan’s Batman films feel (and I am saying this as a prisoner of the moment) leaves the primary,candy coloured rivals The Avengers and The Amazing Spiderman in the dust. DC needs to follow the reasons why Nolan’s Batman is sosuccessful, Nolan has brought a solemn, humourless tone and grounded Batman in reality. None of the Marvel films feel as portentous, ominous or as haunting he never forgets his fanboy audience.In all its lengthy glory, The Dark Knight Rises is powerfully cinematic, truly magnificent and is even very operatic. Nolan’s films are amongst the of the best Comic Book Movies ever made, this is easily the best Comic Book movie trilogy ever made, TDKR is a fitting end to a truly epic trilogy.

  4. So many people say this is the best film of the trilogy. It was the worse IMO. Some parts were so bad I laughed and so did the theater I was in.

  5. Batman Begins (2005) – *****
    The Dark Knight (2008) – ****1/2
    The Dark Knight Rises (2012) – *****

    Some movies are to be watched.
    But some movies are to be experienced.

    This one belonged to the latter category.

    I now have a new found respect for Catwoman and…Anne Hathaway.
    The last 45 minutes or so, moistened my eyes for Batman.
    Bane and Tom Hardy have been a deadly venomous (pun intended) combination.
    The Bat-pod was never so much put to better use before this movie.
    The action is …grand.
    the emotions are…real and touching.
    Alfred Pennyworth, Lucius Fox and Commissioner Gordon – These guys really are the Holy Trinity of Batman and these movie REALLY proved that.

    I will try to add something later when I get more suitable words to describe this experience.

  6. I agree with the reviewer, although I thought Bane was the most menacing villain in the trilogy. The fact alone that he does what the Joker couldn’t do – defeat Batman and leave Gotham in total darkness – gives him epic status. The action scenes alone make this epic worth watching.

    Also. Anne Hathoway is perfect as the femme fatale-like Catwoman. Seriously, she rocks in this.

    Without giving away spoilers, some subtle hints of a “Justice League” movie were given perhaps the biggest of which comes before the movie even begins: Nolan is producing Man of Steel, which apparently will be a reinvention of Superman in the same way that Batman was reinvented. Also, while the tag line for TDKR is “The Legend Ends,” the ending of TDKR hints at just the opposite.

    While TDKR certainly can at the very least, compete with The Avengers as this summer’s superhero blockbuster, it does have some holes, none of which kill the movie (far from it).

    I credited Nolan and his crew For creating the perfect Gotham. It was a uniquely dark place that is in desperate need of a hero in Batman Begins. In this film however,it suddenly becomes New York City in this film, which was rather strange.

    Also, I was rather upset by the way the Miranda Tate character was treated. In the comic book, she is a far more complex character than was portrayed in this film. Perhaps she and Sam Raimi’s Venom can get together and cry over how they’ve been mistreated on the big screen.

    Also, TDKR was almost too epic – to the point in which, let’s just say, there needs to be some serious suspension of disbelief to take the story itself seriously.

    • I honestly think that the only reason that Bane succeeds over Batman is because Bruce Wayne has become less of what he was from eight years prior.

      Bane and The Joker are two completely different beasts.Bane has an agenda and he’s a zealot,while Joker,even though he was lying when he said it,is like a dog chasing cars,but more so of his other description of himself,an agent of chaos.

    • I agree, Bane was actually more menacing than than his predecessors. Ras al Ghul and Scarecrow only shook Gotham City. Joker only caused chaos. Bane was the guy who actually “broke” Gotham (and Batman), physically and sociologically.

  7. I saw this movie Friday morning and have since been weighing out the pro’s and cons. This film was awesome. Maybe not as memorable as ‘The Dark Knight’ or as stylized as ‘Batman Begins’, but it was a great balance between the two and an amazing conclusion to Nolan’s Batman universe.

    I was a little let down by the very slow pace, some of the fight choreography, a few plot holes but what far out weighs the negative is the fact that I was absolutely enthralled by every moment. And more importantly to a cinephile and long time comic book reader is ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ experience is still playing on repeat in my mind, I’m still captivated by some of the scenes in this movie. Most would disagree but I walked out of that IMAX theater very satisfied. No one can deny these are the best Batman films we’ve ever seen.

    Great review Kofi. I would have thrown an extra half star at it :)


    So I just came back from seeing this movie a second time with the danger or knowing that while I liked it on the first viewing,I found that there was a lot of stuff to nitpick,which would lead me to further nitpicking on the second watch.Well,the things that I rolled my eyes at were still there and I still rolled my eyes,but the movie actually is a lot better on the second watch.

    So here’s my good and mediocre/bad of the movie.

    I said this before,but this movie suffers from plot time compression.The scene at the stock exchange is diagramed very poorly and sticks out like a sore thumb,more so the second time.One of Bane’s henchmen says that the download would take nine minute,and seconds after they ride away,it’s pitch black outside.If you go by the NYSE,it opens a 9 am and closes at 4 pm,so there’s no way in hell that it would get that dark that fast.

    Part of my time compression gripe is the ending.Maybe it’s just in my case,but only after the second viewing did I realize that all of the scenes were overlapping each other.If they weren’t then the time that the bomb is ticking down makes no sense.Also,there just seemed to be way too much stuff happening in the final 5-10 minutes that the bomb had left.I rarely see any movie get the ticking time bomb plot device right.Oddly enough,Nolan did get it right with Inception.

    There was some bad dialog in parts where the filmmakers were clearly holding your hand to make sure you knew what was going on.When Catwoman had Daggett on the roof and he explained in almost cartoonish detail about the Clean Slate,I rolled my eyes in disgust at how bad it was.This is the biggest example of useless exposition that I’ve ever seen in a movie.

    I had a problem the first time with Bane’s voice.The first time I thought that it was the mixing of the audio,but on further review,it’s his actual voice.He should have had a much more menacing voice,imo.A deeper pitch would have served the character better.He sounded too refined instead of savage.

    I thought that Catwoman was pretty awesome,but her character seemed more like a plot device than an actual character with some importance.Had that character not been in the movie,I don’t think it would’ve hurt the overall plot one bit.

    I still don’t understand how Blake is supposed to carry the mantle as the new protector of Gotham with all the gadgets,but none of the ninja training,nor financial resources that Wayne had.

    Last thing.I wish that Batman would’ve used more of his gadgets and exhibited more of his detective skills.

    And that’s about the only critical things that I have to say about the movie.

    I thought that the plot was great,and the way that they tied it in and came full circle with the first movie was a good,and I loved the touches with showing snippets of the previous two movies.

    Micheal Caine,and his relationship with Bruce was played to perfection in this movie.Wish that he had more screen time.

    Anne Hathaway was great as Catwoman,even if they only scratched(pun intended) the surface of her character.

    Bale was great.He played a broken man that had to rise up to be more.Thought he did a great job portraying that aspect of the character.

    Hardy was an awesome Bane.Just his presence on screen gave me that “oh sh!7,what is he gonna to now” feeling.Still didn’t like the voice though.

    JLG really stepped his game up for this movie and pretty much solidified that he’s more than just a baby faced actor on screen.

    I really don’t know why people are complaining about the fight choreography.The first fight between Bane and Bats gave me goosebumps,both times I saw it.The second fight was good,but not as much as the first,but still good in it’s own right.

    And would people stop saying that there are plot holes.There aren’t any real plot holes in this movie.I think people are confusing plot holes with plot contrivances,which there are a few.

    First viewing I gave it a solid B,but after watching it again,I give it an A-.


    Great movie with great characters,action,and plot,with some of the finer details of the plot which needed to be better.

    • “I really don’t know why people are complaining about the fight choreography.The first fight between Bane and Bats gave me goosebumps,both times I saw it.The second fight was good,but not as much as the first,but still good in it’s own right”

      I submit to you the following for review:
      watch the bar fight in “Book of Eli”, The subway fight in Matrix, Final fight in “V for Vendetta”, Crazy 88 fight in “Kill Bill”, any fight from “Undisputed II or III”
      Opening fight from “The Watchmen”
      5 on 1 fight in “Blood and Bones”

      • My 2 Cents:

        So you wanted the raw menacing fight hand-to-hand combat (which it was) between two huge bulky forces that were Batman and Bane to be a “Sci-fi” like Matrix or a sword-fight as in Kill Bill while unrealistically flying in the air ? I don’t agree.

        • @Amol,

          So YOU want one of DC’s best martial artist to swing and grunt like a drunk college kid in a bar fight?? just asking, because it doesn’t make sense to me. If we just want to confine this to the movie realm and have him just be a guy in a suit of kevlar then… what happened to all that training from the first flick then?

          So to answer your question. Yuuup! (to the grammar police, I’m aware that that isn’t a real word) This is a comic book character is it not? So, his bike and the Bat are real huh?
          Sorry but Batman isn’t a “Tank” fighter. Never has and never will be. The Batarangs have been used as edged weapons, so the sword fight question gets a yes as well.
          One thing that ANY “real” fighter will tell you “anger makes your stupid. Make the other guy mad and you keep your cool” Batman fought angry. Fail.
          I like how you picked two out of 7 examples though.

          Cats on here kill me with this chat about what’s real and what isn’t when dealing with comic book characters. So, the Tumbler and the Bat are realistic? Or Bane grabbing Bats (a 200 plus pound grown azz man) by the adams apple, with one hand and lifting him off his feet, then carrying him for several feet.. A 112 pound woman is going to whoop a room full of men..is realistic?
          - All that aside, the choreography is what I’m talking about… and it was lazy at best.

          Thanks for the reply though and I guess we’ll agree to disagree.

          • my2cents,

            (There, now don’t you all come back complaining, that I didn’t warn you all.)


            Of course, I wanted Batman to swing and grunt like a drunk college kid in a bar fight…because THAT’S the point. Batman is NOT in his prime for this particular movie…just like the comic it was inspired from …”The Dark Knight Returns(1986)” and he wasn’t especially prepared for the big challenge at that particular moment..because The Catwoman had tricked him in that unexpected situation.

            !!!!!!!SPOILERS END!!!!!!

            And so what if Batman is a comic book character ?? The environemt he is set in, is NEITHER ‘Sci-fi’ like The Matrix NOR exaggerated like Kill-Bill. And there is nothing magical or supernatural or unrealistic about Batman when he is involved in any fights…let alone…hand-to-hand-combats.

            (“Batman fought angry.”)
            Ha. Ha. Because…THAT WAS the point. I agree and I also believe that your point actually supported the movie. The reason being Batman not in his prime (as I believed in the first paragraph of mine).

            (“I like how you picked two out of 7 examples though.”)
            …That’s because I don’t remember the fight from “Book of Eli”. I can’t recall at this time. May be I’ll have to watch it again. The one from “V for Vendetta” was an extremely exaggerated slow-motion sequence which NEVER would have fitted in this movie. And from the rest of the movies, the ones I mentioned are the only movies I have watched from that list of yours. I did watch ‘Watchmen’, though and I AGREE with you on that at least. And now…how many good-to-great movies from my country (India) have you watched? (…and I would agree that, those Bollywood romantic-comedies suck just their counterparts from Hollywood and I totally avoid them.)

            And the point is NOT whether Batman IS real. The point is whether Batman CAN exist in Reality. And I guess he can because he’s not magical and supernatural like say the Avengers or X-men, etc.

            Yes, I say it…Batman’s existence is VERY HIGHLY IMPROBABLE but NOT IMPOSSIBLE.

            I never claimed that all those Bat-pod and his gadgets are real, did I ??? NO. Exactly just like you can-NOT claim that Science could not invent them in the near-future, can you ? NO. At least they are more “real” than an Iron-Man hiding a missile in his body armor and not getting buried deep inside six-feet under the ground according to Sir Isaac Newton’s third law of motion …while launching one.

            I do TOTALLY agree with you on those weight comparisons of Bane and Catwoman though but those are minor gripes compared to what Nolan offered me in terms of script, cast, acting, visual/sound effects, dialogues (barring a few), direction…etc. But then nobody even expects that out of an Avengers movie, does one ?? NO.
            TA and TDKR may have been two different aspects of movies and topics and both serve different purposes in terms of entertainment but…

            1. I never understood why some guys want Batman to be forcefully moulded into an average regular fun-giving happy-go-lucky super-hero with supernatural superpowers like other superheroes?? Why can’t Batman stay unique and non-campy just like what he is today …UNlike other superheroes?? Any superhero (HERE: Batman) borne out of the tragedy of witnessing his own parents getting murdered in front of his eyes at point-blank range is NEVER going to be a source of fun in a lighter way. **OR else otherwise** it’s like undermining the character of the superhero and dis-respecting it. For example Burton’s campy Batman.(I know I’m going to attract a lot of missiles towards me for calling Burton’s Batman campy…but can’t help it.)

            2. For me, ANY movie that appeals to mature human beings MORE than compared to the teenagers and children is SUPERIOR to any other movie which is equally as entertaining but in a lighter way so as to attract the children/teenagers.

            The Avengers – For children..MOSTLY.
            Spiderman – For Teenagers…MOSTLY.
            Batman – For Everybody.

            • @Amol,

              I’ve never watched any flicks from your country. Sorry. I’m more of an Asian Action guy.
              Shoot me some good recommendations.

              Well, I’m going to leave your comment about the bar fight alone. You don’t get it so I’m not going to beat a dead horse. I’ll go along with you and say Bat’s said Fuggit!

              I guess the next movie with a martial artist not using his, um, martial arts i’ll just go with the flow.
              that makes a Black Panther, Iron-Fist or Shang-Chi movie easier to make then.

              I suggest you watch the Ali vs Foreman fight to see a vet who’s been out the game for a minute.

              Sorry to read that you thought the Avengers was for teenagers. wait, you said for “kids..mostly” I guess me and my other 40 plus year old guys will take that as a compliment that we’re not stuffy old men.

              My comment about Catwoman was more about Hathaway than anything else. Too skinny to be Catwoman. Don’t get me wrong, she did a great job, but she’ll never be the Farrah Faucet on my wall. Anyway, I’ll retract my statement about her fight. It was the best in the movie.

              The environment is set exactly in a Sci-Fi world. A world where the laws of physics don’t apply. Sci-fi is sci-fi be it Matrix, Inception (which had better fights and action) or Nolan’s Batverse. The Tumbler and the Bat can’t exist anymore than Iron-Man’s tech or the Helicarrier.

              Nope, can’t say that those things won’t be invented in “The future” but according to history, we’re supposed to be in flying cars and exploring space. Yet, here we are barely getting 30 MPG and NASA is practically non existent. We’re still shooting lead instead of laser beams, so infer what you want from that…

              You’re talking degrees of improbability.. but it’s still Improbable.

              You forget that Batman has a long history. He hasn’t always been a brooder. Burton wasn’t the first guy to put Batman out there. So I’m leaving that line alone too.
              I your reasoning, ever character or real person that’s had a love one murdered or die is going to be stuck?

              anyway, you proved the point where you said Batman was “Unprepared” for that moment. Batman is NEVER unprepared (even after watching video of Bane). I can buy Nolan’s version as him being just a guy in a suit if that’s how they want to portray him. It’s a stretch, but pfft!

              • my2cents,

                Boy, I could really go on, but this is really going into an absurd territory…especially when you and me both are not even the producers and directors of this movie and are still fighting over minor technical peripheral issues of the movie…only because I committed the sin of …liking the central issues of this movie, namely…the script, the direction, the acting and the visual/sound extravaganza and the sin of loving a movie which was based on critically-acclaimed stories of Batman. Let’s just both stop here before we both appear like fools.

                • too late (for at least one of you)

              • OK, I guess I should return back.
                I guess Batman just chose Plain Brawling over intricate moves of Martial Art.It’s his choice especially it’s the huge bane as an opponent.

                But as a 40+ year old, did not you learn that at this age, what should appeal to you MORE are the movie’s central complex themes i.e. the script, the direction, the acting and NOT the petty peripheral technical themes like …how Batman and Bane choose to fight ? Don’t you think what should appeal to you at your age is the soul/depth of the movie and not to criticize/nit-pick the fact that The bat-pod is not real and hence conclude wrongfully that the movie is pretentious?

                Considering the central complex themes, I would choose The Dark Knight Rises over The Avengers any time …even though I do myself enjoyed ‘The Avengers’ too for whatever worth it was.

                And when I categorized those movies according to the age, I was pointing out to their main consumer targets in a loose way GENERALLY and NOT strictly. Personally, I would say I have a “vast” amount of movie-experience for every type of movie since I have been watching movies rigorously for the last 16 years. I love the ‘Ice-Age’/Jurassic Park series as much equally as I love Shawshank Redemption, L.A. confidential and A Clockwork Orange. You don’t have to sell me that adults can watch kiddie movies. I know that. BUT…

                …Didn’t it occur to you that the question mark is NOT over what the adults can adjust to, but it’s really over…what the children and teenagers can grasp and digest? Don’t you think most children won’t even understand the concepts of Liberalization, Fear and other deep concepts like it which were masterfully handled in TDKR, and were specifically targeted towards a more mature audience…but…those children would easily digest anything thrown at them by TA and TASM?? And does not that make TDKR a standout over TA and TASM?

                (“The environment is set exactly in a Sci-Fi world. A world where the laws of physics don’t apply.”)
                Are you kidding??!!! Especially as a physics post-graduate, I would say: A “sci-fi” is a so-much-progressed world ONLY because the creators of it RESPECT PHYSICS and not deny it. One can only develop by ONLY Respecting Physics. There is NO other way out. I would take that point of yours as simple plain ignorance.

                But I agree with you on that, Science has yet to convert all those promises from UNfulfilled to fulfilled.

                Batman is highly improbable but still NOT impossible like all those other most superheroes.

                And Batman is always brooding. The plain reason is: He is still continuing to be Batman. Plain and Simple. The point is as long as Bruce Wayne keeps becoming Batman, it only points to the fact that he is still in grief remembering his parent’s violent demise. And so in no way can he provide fun in a lighter, campier way, the way that other superheroes do. ***The day he stops brooding, he WON’T be Batman.*** Don’t tell me that just because there were campy comics of a funny Batman targeted towards children, it means that A-L-L those writers understood Batman. It does NOT equal that way. That’s only DC’s way of increasing their sales.

                The only way you can prepare and practice for a war is …be in the war. No net-practice will do…especially if you haven’t been in a war for EIGHT LONG years and are beyond your prime age. Doesn’t Bane remind Batman that Peace and Victory have cost Batman his Strength? That’s enough said.

                Any other issues, if remaining, I agree with you on them.

                • Just couldn’t hold it in could’ja?

                  “Let’s just both stop here before we both appear like fools”

                  • my2cents,

                    I couldn’t hold it because in spite of that statement of mine…’The Avenger’ comment below triggered my response.

                    Anyway, What do you say about my above views?

                • I don’t I saw Batman using Martial Arts in the TDKR.

                  • Timm:

                    I think you should request an explanation for that from Nolan. I expected martial arts from The Bat only in the 2nd fight against Bane. I’m completely satisfied with their first face/off.

                    • Sorry, I meant to say ” I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure I saw Batman using Martial Arts in the TDKR.”

                      He did use Martial Arts.

                      Sorry for the error.

                      @amol, I agree with your assessment, I thought it was a good read.

            • “The Avengers – For children..MOSTLY.”
              I didn’t know the children of the US had over 600mil to spend on watching a movie…
              Oh wait, they don’t ;)
              I saw the movie three times and during all my viewings the theaters were packed with people all ages (mostly adults actually), races and genders.
              The Avengers is for EVERYBODY man, and so is TASM and TDKR.

              • The Avenger,

                First of all, I would like to acknowledge that I absolutely loved your review of TDKR. No two ways about it.

                That said…
                …for your above statement, I was not talking about children spending money on their own. It’s about children understanding and acknowledging A_-L-L the concepts put forward by a movie.

                …Didn’t it occur to you that the question mark is NOT over what the adults can adjust to, but it’s really over…what the children and teenagers can grasp and digest? Don’t you think most children won’t even understand the concepts of Liberalization, Fear and other similar deep concepts which were masterfully handled in TDKR, and were specifically targeted towards a more mature audience…but…those children would easily digest anything thrown at them by TA and TASM?? And does not that make TDKR a standout over TA and TASM?

                • You don’t need to understand all the deeper meanings and themes of a movie to enjoy it and think it’s good.
                  Kids loved the Toy Story movies because they were fun, and adults loved them because they were heartwarming and spoke about what friendship really means (among other things).
                  I cannot begin to tell you how many kids I know (under the age of 12 no less) who loved TDK – did they understand all the deeper meanings? No, but did they love the movie? Yes.
                  Batman fights Joker. Batman fights Bane – children can very easily understand that and so much more.
                  Honestly, I think you’re grossly underestimating the intelligence of children and teenagers and that’s too bad for you (and just FYI, I’m a teenager). We’re actually a lot smarter than you might think ;)

                  I submit another franchise of films as example: Indiana Jones. Were they deep and meaningful? Not really, no. Were they fun for ALL AGES? Absolutely.

                  Just because a movie has intense themes and intriguing subplots and whatnot doesn’t mean it can only appeal to adults (and it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “better” either) and just because a movie is simple to understand and fun to watch doesn’t mean it’s just for children (and it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s “bad” either) .

                  The fact of the matter is, when you said the following:
                  “The Avengers – For children..MOSTLY.
                  Spiderman – For Teenagers…MOSTLY.
                  Batman – For Everybody.”
                  With all due respect, you were wrong. the movies are for everybody. Period. Fact.

                  • The Avenger,

                    I AGREE with you on everything. But…you are repeating points that I have already acknowledged. Like I already said before (which you acknowledged with your “Indiana Jones” example): Adults can watch anything they want. No restrictions at all.

                    So can children, but…that doesn’t not mean they have the maturity to understand the deeper concepts of some particular movie. For the categorization, I did use the word “MOSTLY” which is the key word. Otherwise since all movies are made for all ages, then I shouldn’t mind children and teenagers watch A Clockwork Orange (1971), Requiem For A Dream (2000), Basic Instinct(1992), Se7en(1995) or Y Tu Mama Tambien (2001), should I? Anything conceptual and they won’t understand. Anything extra graphical in nature and they will be disturbed. Children (NOT teenagers) watch Bat-movies for the spectacle, the fights and explosions. What had TA and TASM to offer in terms of concepts ??? And I NEVER used the word “better” for a movie-comparison because that is an incorrect word UNLESS…we are comparing REMAKES of the same movie…but the words “more intelligent” and “more complex” are more suitable while comparing two different movies/genres. And I believe TDKR leaves behind TA and TASM in that category. And I already said that it’s not about Age, it’s about Maturity. MOST children would not understand the concepts of Liberalization, Fear as they are not mature enough. Though there are a few exceptions…

      • I agree with My 2 Cents. And would also add the fight scenes from the Jason Bourne movies. Any of the hand to hand combat from the Bourne films is more gripping than anything in TDKR. And the Bourne universe is arguably more grounded than Nolen’s Batman trilogy.

        • To everybody before me:

          The point of the “bar room brawl” type fight is because of two reasons. One, starting with the most obvious, he has been out of the game for eight years. Skill aside, he’s not going to be at the physical level that he once was. The second reason is subtle, but I find it far more important than the first. Batman is mentally and emotionally fatigued. He goes down in the sewers to give Bane everything he has left, regardless of whether it ends in his victory. The very first thing Bruce asks Bane when he comes to in the prison is why didn’t he kill him. This is a man who had given everything and yet for all that sacrifice, walked away with nothing but regret and guilt. The city hated him, unnecessary blood on his hands, and his one love, his first love, dead.

          This is why there’s such a distinct and sudden change in the way Batman, and albeit more to the point, Bruce Wayne, portrays himself in the movie. Of course, this is just my take, to each his own.

          • @dishwater

            I like you’re take on it, but I have to throw a wrench in you’re theory.
            When you’re tired as hell, beat up mentally and physically.. that’s when your years and years of training kicks in.. that’s what technique and muscle memory are for. Sorry but that’s a proven fact in ever facet of life. Bruce Lee harped on it. The military uses it during training.
            Shoot, ask anyone who’s been through Basic Training. Ask any Ranger, Seal, Para Rescue troop who’s been up for days and days with no rest, if they forget breathing and trigger control because they’re whooped.

            • My understanding of muscle memory is that one has to keep working at it. That’s what I was tuaght and teach. Even doing the movements like shadow boxing for a few minutes everyday is alot better than not doing anything at all, in this case 8 years.

              Sorry, but when I had fractured ribs I could last only so long. Then the body begins to slowly wear down. All the technique and muscle memory did not help even if I blocked a shot.

              Nice take dishwater63. I see your point and agree.

              @ My 2 Cents I appreciate your statement. Trigger control seems somewhat similar to an aged boxer who has power punches. The power is still there, but the physical tools may not be.

      • Yeah. when was fighting pretty?

  9. The Dark Knight Rises was Awesome. Best Movie of the Summer IMO. Unfortunately it will be overshadowed by the tragedy in Colorado. My Deepest Sympathies and Condolences to all the victims. Some members of the media seem like they are blaming the Dark Knight Rises for the massacre,and they are very VERY wrong to do so. Had nothing to do with Batman, had everything to do with a guy who had some serious mental problems. The character of Batman has been around since May of 1939 and has always been a symbol of good, of hope, of good not ignoring evil but confronting and defeating Evil. Batman symbolizes that there is good in this world and it is ALWAYS worth fighting for. As far as the boxoffice goes, well the Dark Knight Rises will not break the Avengers record, not now, just the shock factor from the shooting kept some people from going to the movie this weekend. But to the fans of the Avengers stay classy and hold off on the whole bragging rights thing about still having the opening boxoffice record.You won, Congrats,But With the tragedy in Colorado, now is not the time to brag. Its ok for Avengers fans to be proud that their movie won the boxoffice battle, nothing wrong with that, my hat goes off to you, I saw the Avengers and it was a good film(it stinks that Wolverine and Spiderman couldn’t be in it via different studio rights),I am a fan of the Avengers but i am and always will be a bigger fan of the Batman. After the tragedy in Colorado, it makes u realize that who wins the boxoffice in this DC vs Marvel feud is not that important, What really matters is enjoying the time we have together with friends and families. And that is something we should never take for granted.

  10. You can’t be bothered to post your point of view here?

    Sorry but you shouldn’t be posting a link to take us away from SR where we are discussing the SAME thing. Basically advertising YOUR site here is in poor taste.

  11. Saw this today and i gotta that this was friking an amazing end to nolans trilogy the wait was so worthhh it 5/5

  12. I just finished watching this film and I have to say it was a fitting end to the Nolan series. Christian Bale was his usual fantastic version of Batman but I must say I had serious doubts about Anne Hathaway as Catwoman going in and her performance was exceedingly enjoyable if not a complete turnaround from her usual mediocrity. The script was solid, no matter what anyone says in their opinion, if you love comic books, followed Batman as a child growing up or do so now; you will love this movie. Once the main plot takes off, quickly I might add, the movie even though long does not stop, pause or break in any way boring you. Now I can say that it is not as good as the second film, Dark Knight only due to the sad absence of the man who gave his greatest performance-ever; Heath Ledger. That version of the Joker will never be topped by anyone, any time or for all time. Yet Tom Hardy’s Bane was a meaty, pumped-up, blood rising incredible that almost tricks you into getting up and throwing some punches just for the sake of feeling that powerful; engrossing. After this role Tom will never have trouble being billed as an action star again and I hope to see more of this guy in the future. For those of you who don’t yet know Joseph Gordon-Levitt from his breakout role in Brick or his recent appearance in Inception you will be happy with him here and hopefully he can stick around the Batman franchise as he fit the bill perfectly.

    Go see this movie.

    For the recent tragedy and the vitriol being spewed against Hollywood and violence in film considered tied to it I want to say that quite a few heroes emerged from that horrible event and like myself some people identify with the heroism portrayed in these movies as opposed to villainy. Without the villainy, the hardship, the violence against the innocents and tribulation we couldn’t show the bravery, honor and justice represented by our heroes in movies; traits emulated by those men who died saving their girlfriends, sisters, mothers, brothers and strangers. You cannot blame Hollywood for insanity anymore than society could blame the Batman for the Joker, Ra’s Al Ghul or Bane but we can honor the everyday heroes by supporting the films they loved as much as we all do.

    • Shouldn’t we blame video games for the behaviour of the fool?

  13. what if Batman was saved by the nuclear blast by THE MAN OF STEEL HIMSELF? what if, depending on whether or not DC/Snyder succeed in bringing Superman back to prominence, Superman was the reason behind Batmans survival of that blast? Like, say, at the last minute Superman flys in and grabs Batman, or grabs the entire BAT with Batman inside it sending the nuclear bomb on its continued trajectory, and
    taking Batman to, oh….. I dont know…… the Fortress of Solitude or to Metropolis, where they first introduce themselves to one another?

    • Nope.

  14. what if Batman was saved by the nuclear blast by THE MAN OF STEEL HIMSELF? what if, depending on whether or not DC/Snyder succeed in bringing Superman back to prominence, Superman was the reason behind Batmans survival of tht blast? Like, say, at the last minute Superman flys in and grabs Batman, or grabs the entire BAT with Batman inside it sending the nuclear bomb on its continued trajectory, and
    taking Batman to, oh….. I dont know…… the Fortress of Solitude or to Metropolis, where they first introduce themselves to one another?

    • I kinda had a feeling that like the the tank-car he drives it has an ejectable secondary vehicle? ..but really anything they can imagine works right?

  15. Batman done.. Man of Steel next. wtf nice!

  16. Though TDKR was a really great movie ( far better than any superhero movies i’ve watch in years), i can’t help to shake the feeling it could have been better, well in terms of the conclusion. I was quite disappointed with conclusion. Batman/Bruce Wayne was presumed dead in the end of the film, and his mansion was given to orphaned boys of Gotham. I was glad to find out that Bruce is very much alive, but is he going continue becoming Batman or has he retired? If he is retired, why would he give Gordon a new bat signal.

    I assume he intended for Blake to take over him as the new protector of Gotham. I would prefer it if he had introduced Blake’s actual name as Dick or Tim ( Robin’s secret identity in the comics, though not all would know this) rather than his superhero codename Robin. This would make the story more true to the comics in my opinion. Or perhaps it would be better if Blake was Terry McGinnis ( the new batman, in Batman Beyond) rather than Robin. That in my opinion, would fit the storyline better since Bruce did give Gordon a new BAT signal and Blake did inherited the BAT cave.

    As far as villains go, I think Bane and Catwoman played by Hardy and Hathaway were great if not perfect (though Ledger’s Joker is still the best). Nolan’s interpretation of their characters were realistic and believable and not as cartoony as in the previous Batman movies. Talia on the other hand could have been better. I feel like there was more to her than it was shown in the movie. Her death for me was a little bit premature ( or maybe i just had a hard time accepting that Batman is about to end). She could have carried Bruce’s son Damian.

    I understand that Nolan wanted to show more Bruce Wayne in the third installment, but there should be more Batman showing off his detective skills and gadgets. I wasn’t as excited when Fox gave Batman new equipments as i did in Batman Begins and TDK. I also find the lack of humour in this movie a little bit depressing to watch. Alfred, Caine’s character should have provided more comic relief in the TDKR as he did in the previous movies.

    I also find Batman absence in the last 8 years in the movie puzzling. If Bruce withdrawn himself from becoming Batman for the last 8 years, why was his leg injured. It was perfectly fine in the time of Dent’s death. It would had been better if Nolan had stated that Batman remained active in the last 8 years and hat taken down many villains, Poison Ivy, The Penguin etc.(though this would allow other movie makers to make midquels, and potentially mess up Nolan’s story).

    All in all, I think the Dark Knight Rises was a nice movie to watch. The worst of all three movies for me (keep in mind that the other two movies were REALLY REALLY good), but still fun and very great to watch.

    • I think it would have been better in the eight years of his absence that he became an alcoholic, depressed by his failure to save the love of his life and harvey.. His life spins out of control until it hits him really hard when Selina steals his mother’s pearls and his families business goes bust which propels him to clean up his act and be the man he used to be..

      • It’s a cool idea, but personally I don’t associate alcoholism to Bruce Wayne… that’s something that would most likely happen to Tony Stark IMO.

    • Yeah, I was dissappointed by the lack of “detective skills” by Batman in the Christoperh Nolan movies. Actually, there was a lack of detective skills used in any Batman movie I’ve seen (aside from that “ballistics testing in the Dark knight, but how did somehow finding a fingerprint on a bullet help? In fact, why was it there???).
      His leg is probably injured from that fall. Maybe the adrenaline from the rescue just helped him ignore it at the time.-

      • Andrew,

        Batman has so many aspects to his nature that not all of them can be covered in the same story-line. May be they will cover the “detective” aspect in the next Bat-movie when Bat searches for The Riddler or …they make an extensive movie about “The Forensic Files Of Batman”. See? That’s an altogether different/dedicated line of stories of the Batman.

    • Dirk079,

      I would have been OK even with the absence/removal of whatever humor there was actually except…when the cop’s cap flies out off his head when The Bat goes overhead and the Batman’s comment on Catwoman’s sudden disappearance. I think the movie already tended to have a tragic nature to it with Batman ending. Except the two instances above, I believe every other humor, if any, was standing out like a sore thumb.

      I thought the most important aspect of Catwoman, her duality of nature, was clearly on display with being once on the opposite side and then on the same side of Batman. That was enough for me, along with her action scenes which was an extra bonus.

      And Hardy did MORE with just quarter of a face than most could do with their full face. Plus it’s NEVER possible for Bane or any other Bat-villain to overturn The Joker anyway, Nolan’s or not.

      I too think they should have let Talia live, at least in the prisons, for whatever worth it was…ONLY because she probably had Damien in her womb and that would have been an interesting turn.

      For the leg been weakened…
      I have known a number of psycho-somatic disorders, where the power of the mind over the body, results in the body bending to the will of the mind, believing what the mind say is always true, especially in this case where Bruce Wayne was severely depressed and trapped for eight years with no escape. May be he psychologically thought he was weakened physically and his weakened leg was a symbol of that. May be he truly wasn’t…

  17. First things first, I have to applaud and shake hands with Christopher Nolan for crafting three magnificent Batman movies . Nobody comes close to what he has done.

    The Dark Knight trilogy ranks up there as one of the greatest movie
    trilogies of all time , along with Lord of the Rings . I have to say
    this : Whoever reboots the Batman franchise in the future will have a hard
    time making people forget Christopher Nolan’s work on these three movies.
    The director on that reboot will find Nolan’s work on these flicks a tough act to follow, because inevitably, people will compare that reboot with Nolan’s version.

  18. You must have seen a different movie because Anne Hathaway was absolutely terrible as Catwoman. She has none of the presence or toughness of Pfieffer, nothing but one-liners and a pretty face.

    • I think she played catwoman perfectly. very cunning and i love the relationship she had with batman. its just that she wasn’t given much of a role to play in the movie.

    • man you have to be crazy Anne-Hathaway was a breath of fresh air in this movie, she stole every scene she was in……………

  19. I drove 4 hours yesterday to watch TDKR in a IMAX theatre. Those of you who haven’t done this, should make this a priority. The visuals within this movie are worth the price alone.

    Unfortunately though, this made up the “epic” in the “epic conclusion” for me. There are individual moments in this movie that are as great as any on film today. Bane was a great atagonist (right up until the end anyways). His first fight with Batman was one of the best comic book fights I have ever seen.

    As a whole though, I was disappointed. Not because I had unrealistic expectations after TDK, or because of the hype, but because this is a very unbalanced movie.

    If John Blake, Catwoman, and the whole prison ordeal was left out, I believe that we could of had a much better movie. This is not because I disliked any of these components, it is because they were just too much for a movie already full of great things. Lucius, Gordon, and Alfred seemed lost in the mix with the new additions and I would of liked to have seen those guys with more prominent roles for this conclusion. The prison scene did not fit this movie at all. The entire story should of never left Gotham.

    Bruce’s medical condition at the start, the knee brace, his condition after the fight with Bane, and then the prison scenes where ludicrous. This really took something away for me as there was zero continuity with this aspect of the movie. *Additionally for those of you who watched this movie, if you ever fell more than a few feet with a rope around your waist you would probably die or never would be able to walk again. Please never try this, I am dead serious.

    The ending was a dissapointment for me, from the point where John Blake was on the bridge, to the credits. Without spoilers, I can not further explain.

    This should of been a Batman movie and instead we got a Bane/John Blake movie with everyone else as supporting characters. In my mind, epic conclusion should mean epic Batman. I don’t believe we got that.

    3 out of 5

  20. Great to see the fight choreography producing so much discussion. I actually thought the choreography was very well done for this movie, and the Batman vs. Bane rivalry came across particularly well.

    (Possible spoilers start here)
    In this film Batman used the same hybrid style we saw in Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. It’s a modern system using big punches, kicks and some throws. I’d honestly have preferred to see Batman using something more tactical, more functional, but Christian Bale does put the moves to good use. His Batman seems quite a technical fighter, but one who’s got rusty between The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises.

    In the first Batman v. Bane fight it becomes clear that Batman’s techniques aren’t enough to take out this physically dominant opponent. Bane’s a slugger with heavy hits, some nasty throws and joint breaks who’s handy in a way that the Joker wasn’t when he fought Batman in The Dark Knight.

    I like to think of the scene in the prison pit as a training sequence. This is where Batman develops the inner strength, the resilience he needs to take Bane down. He builds up not just his back, but also his spirit.

    So Batman comes across a lot more confident and more like a natural fighter when he and Bane meet for the second time. He’s not dominated by Bane’s size or his powerful techniques. He’s developed as a warrior.

    (Possible spoilers end here)

    I’ll be glad to hear anyone else’s opinion, it is good to see fight scenes generating such discussion. I posted on my own blog a (spoiler-free) review of the fight scenes which looks at the styles used by the different characters – in The Dark Knight Rises each character has their own fighting style, I think it’s done imaginatively and comes across pretty well.

    Scott B.

    • I agree and I am very glad that another person enjoyed the fight sequences.

  21. Just reread Kofi’s review, and I agree with most of it. Except I would rate the movie at 3.5 stars, not 4. And I stand by that. The movie had great effects, great cinematography and wonderful work by Nolen’s second unit team (as always). Good acting overall too.

    But I had problems with:
    1. The plot. And I wrote a little about this elsewhere. It seems like Nolen for this movie, dreamed up some wicked stunts and visuals and then built the plot around the set pieces. The plane hijack scene, the football stadium scene, the cliché ticking time bomb truck convoy bit….. etc.

    2. The script. Chock full of ponderous, heavy handed, exposition. Just hitting me over the head with explanations of what I’m supposed to be thinking about during this movie. Don’t tell me what to think. Show me, with character development and themes and plot. This movie is for Nolen what Star Wars Episode 1 is for George Lucas, as far as dialog goes. And yes, Bane was hard to understand for me.

    3. The fight choreography. And I’m beating a dead horse here, since I’ve gone over this. The two major battles between the main protagonist (Batman) and the main antagonist (Bane) were severely underwhelming. Poorly shot and not creative. I was expecting some hair raising martial arts moves from these two highly trained League of Shadows veterans. I was not awed by their ass-kicking prowess….. or by any high tech batbelt gizmos during the fight scenes. I think Nolen should have got the fight choreographers from the Jason Bourne movies and let them loose on it. Every Treadstone grad fight in those movies was amazing.

    So yes. I stand by my 3.5 rating. I even lean towards a 3.

  22. I lol’d when I saw the 4.0, I guess I should expect no less from Marvelrant.com.

    • Go away troll.

  23. I absolutely hated two things in the movie. One, Batman is the greatest detective in the world. In the movie, he is just shown as a man with fighting skill in a tech costume.

    I didn’t like it that he was flabbergasted by everything that is happening around him. Batman always, always has a plan. In the comics the only way Bane defeated him was the batman was exhausted by working non stop for a month to re-capture guys from Arkham Asylum. This turned me off the movie

    Second, Bane did this for love? That is so lame. He is a much more complex guy.

    • eyn,

      In the comics Bane had to exhaust Batman because Batman was in peak form. HERE he wasn’t fit, physically and mentally, both, for eight years. So…

  24. Great movie!!! Tho I couldnt help but think how awesome it would have been if Bruce had the Rocky 4 workout motivation theme song playing while re-building his body in the League of Shadows prison….heh.

  25. I think that all of nolans films were great but the dark knight rises is the last of the trilogy i believe that it was great for wrapping up the story, and really show what happens. Everyone has there own take or opinion on something but it doesnt mean its wrong if u rhink differently but to me this was the best Bane, and catwoman was in it which made it very interesting to watch!! I loved it and thy did an amazing job on the film

  26. This is a little off topic but did anyone else have the red band trailer for The Watch play before this movie? I was a little confused and worried how such a raunchy trailer would play in front of a PG-13 movie…I mean people take kids to PG-13 movies not even thinking they’re going to hear filth like that…

  27. I REALLY LIKED THIS MOVIE OVER THE AVENGERS. There was a lot more human emotion and drama that complaminted the action sequences much better than The Avengers IMO, plus the battle action with Batman and Catwoman fighting Bane’s mob was definatly more realistic than THE AVENGERS fighting aliens,now don’t get me wrong,I liked TA very much but with all of the aliens on earth movies released recently it seems TDKR is something refreshing and different in the huge comic book movie genre.I don’t read too many comic books because I’m really more of a STAR WARS fan but I have seen all of the comic book movies and animations and I think Chris Nolan’s Dark Knight Trilogy ranks as truly the best of the bunch for years to come.

  28. I largely agree with this review. The movie was good, but not great.

    I do find myself wishing the reviewer had tackled the script more directly. It is a balancing act to do as a reviewer without revealing too much of the story. You want to avoid spoilers.

    Nolan’s script is overly bloated. As mentioned before, the role of Commissioner Gordon has been handed in large part to Officer Blake to fulfill. Because of that, I did not see the addition of Blake as something positive for the film. If he were deleted from the movie, and his part given to Gordon, it would have made the film tighter and stronger too.

    There is a massive plot hole at the center of this film, to do with the ticking clock Batman is given, and I found it glaring. It was the writers looking for something to fill the time until Batman could return for his ultimate triumph. It was lazy writing at its worst.

    Additionally, this film is filled with needless actions sequences, such as the mid-air escape, that (though visually impressive) added nothing to the story, or our understanding of the characters. Much of what happens in this film adds nothing, but pretty action sequences, and cool special effects to an already bloated script.

    Is the film good? Well, yes it is. But it falls short of what we have come to expect from this director.

    Does this film have problems? Yes. It has some big problems that took away from my enjoyment of the movie.

    The acting. The cinematography. The special effects. The music. All of these things are coming from film makers at the top of their craft. They make the movie good and worth watching.

    It is the script they were working with that drags this movie down, and keeps it from being truly great.

  29. I LOVE THIS MOVIE! II saw it three days ago, and it was awesome! I can’t wait to see it again :D